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NoodleMarkets Mar 2 @ 12:00 PM EST

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IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:00 PM EST

Welcome to this week's #IOLchat :) Who's joining in today? https://t.co/kGGSeMZ5AD

ODUonline Mar 2 @ 12:02 PM EST

@IOLblog Hello! Checking in from #ODU's main campus in Norfolk, Virginia :) #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:02 PM EST

Elijah Gersims, freshman Secondary Social Studies Ed. and History major at Grove City College! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:03 PM EST

@ODUonline Hello there! Great to see you! :) #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:04 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Hi Elijah! Nice to meet you! Thanks for joining in. :) #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:04 PM EST

@IOLblog Thanks for having me! :) #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:06 PM EST

Let's get started ... Q1 coming up! #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:08 PM EST

Q1) Why are grades part of college courses? What is the goal? #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:11 PM EST

A1) From a current S, it's something that is used to make us aware of our standing in the course and check our understanding. #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:11 PM EST

A1) I know they can be motivators for my students! Though there are pros and cons to that. #grades #iolchat

ODUonline Mar 2 @ 12:12 PM EST

@IOLblog A1) As a student (web person speaking here) I always felt they were a reflection of how well I understood the material #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:12 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Great to have the Ss perspective! Absolutely - how are you doing? Grades can convey this. #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:13 PM EST

@IOLblog True! It can also make me focus on getting a better grade rather than focus on learning! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:13 PM EST

@ODUonline Thx for the student perspective! :) #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:14 PM EST

@ODUonline Yes! Helpful word choice - grades 'reflect' your understanding, effort, participation... #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:14 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Exactly. :) #IOLchat Most uf us have chased the "A" at some point with little to really show for it after the fact.

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Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:16 PM EST

@IOLblog Oh definitely! It's hard to really internalize new information when you're also trying to "spew" it onto paper! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:17 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Well said. ;) #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:18 PM EST

@mrsJunak Hi there! Yes, we are on. Don't forget to include our hashtag. :) #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:19 PM EST

Q2) How might 'grading' and 'assessment' be related/different in your classes? #IOLchat

mrsJunak Mar 2 @ 12:20 PM EST

@IOLblog #iolchat thanks! I'm new to this.

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:20 PM EST

Welcome to #IOLchat! https://t.co/9eLHxnqcOy

mrsJunak Mar 2 @ 12:17 PM EST

@IOLblog I'm in San Diego and got here a bit late, are we still on?

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:20 PM EST

@mrsJunak No problem at all. Great to have you with us! #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:21 PM EST

A2) It's important to know the distinction between formative and summative assessments and when to grade them or not. #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:23 PM EST

A2) cont. In other words, it's important to know the right situations to apply grading to your assessments! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:23 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Yes, indeed. Any feedback on when you would expect a grade as a student? #IOLchat ...

mrsJunak Mar 2 @ 12:24 PM EST

@IOLblog What is this tweetchat? #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:25 PM EST

A2) I do include some assignments that are pass/fail vs. grade - w/feedback and discussion. These are often project components. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:26 PM EST

@mrsJunak #IOLchat This is the Inside Online Learning chat. For more info about us and this week's topic: https://t.co/kGGSeMZ5AD :)

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:26 PM EST

@IOLblog Definitely a quiz, exam, or paper, but group projects, speeches, and homework can be tricky unless there's a good rubric. #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:27 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Quizzes and exams, absolutely! Most are set up to evaluate knowledge and grades are automated. #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:28 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims You are also leading us into Q3 w/rubrics. ;) #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:28 PM EST

@IOLblog Glad to see I'm on top of the game! ;) #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:29 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims You are leading the pack! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:30 PM EST

Q3) How* are grades created (for lack of a better word)? Rubrics? #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:33 PM EST

#IOLchat Welcome, Jennifer! This is a great addition to the convo - grades can matter to more than just students. https://t.co/A7DWnLVnPq

jmm140 Mar 2 @ 12:32 PM EST

@IOLblog Course grades are (imperfect) signals to external audiences (employers, schools, scholarships)

mrsJunak Mar 2 @ 12:34 PM EST

@IOLblog Thanks, this is what I was looking at but haven't clicked the link yet. #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:34 PM EST

A3) Not really sure as a S, but I do know that point values have to be well defined and properly weighted in the rubric! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:36 PM EST

A3) I tend to use rubrics for more complex assignments, and those w/more weight in the class. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:36 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Weighting and criteria are important, and can be tricky to sort out. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:37 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Do you appreciate having access to grading rubrics as a student? #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:37 PM EST

@IOLblog That's a good way to do it! How would that work out in a theoretical situation, out of curiosity? #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:38 PM EST

@IOLblog Oh definitely! It's really helpful to know how to get on the same page with the Teacher! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:39 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims The larger assignments have more of the final grade at stake, so rubric can share my expectations w/more detail. #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:40 PM EST

Student perspectives on grading rubrics #IOLchat Helpful! https://t.co/Ln4qjN7Rh9

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:38 PM EST

@IOLblog Oh definitely! It's really helpful to know how to get on the same page with the Teacher! #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:40 PM EST

@IOLblog That makes sense! Yeah, it definitely helps me as a student to know the teacher's expectations! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:41 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims So, other assignments may have some point value, but small, and be treated as more pass/fail, complete/incomplete #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:42 PM EST

Q4) What are students' primary complaints about grading and assessment? #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:42 PM EST

@IOLblog Gotcha. And it would make sense that those wouldn't really have a rubric, they're more "in-class" work and small homework? #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:44 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Right - activities that require participation/interaction, preliminary drafts, etc. #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:44 PM EST

A4) My biggest frustration is when I'm not necessarily sure what the T requires because there isn't a rubric or it's not specific. #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:47 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Great point. I think the increased use of rubrics has definitely helped Teachers get more detailed .... #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:48 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Assignment instructions/directions can be vague. Sometimes that's the design, but helps all to understand that. #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:50 PM EST

@IOLblog That makes sense! I meant specifically for the ones that require explanation, but I agree that some should be vague! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:51 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Exactly! And it doesn't hurt to clarify that something is more open ended right from the start. #iolchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:51 PM EST

Time for our last Q ... coming up...! #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM EST

@IOLblog Definitely! I need to make sure I remember that for the future! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM EST

Q5) There is a "no grades" movement in education. Would you prefer to abandon grading if you could? But keeping feedback, of course #iolchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:55 PM EST

A5) Like in A1, I think grades are designed for the Ss and Ts to be aware of standing in the class, so I think maybe there should #IOLchat

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:55 PM EST

A5) cont. be less focus, but thwey shouldn't be abolished! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:57 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims That's helpful insight! #IOLchat I think we are a long way from "no grades" at college level, but it's intriguing.

Elijah_Gersims Mar 2 @ 12:58 PM EST

@IOLblog Yeah, definitely! But yeah, I think there can be too much focus on grades and too little on learning, but it isnecessary. #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:58 PM EST

@Elijah_Gersims Alternative assessments/no grading may be appropriate in some courses but not all. Keep lrng objectives in mind! #IOLchat

IOLblog Mar 2 @ 12:59 PM EST

We’re nearing the end of the #IOLchat hour. Thanks to @ODUonline @Elijah_Gersims @mrsJunak @jmm140 for sharing today!