#edchatie Archive
Monday September 11, 2017
3:30 PM EDT
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight’s
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& as usual, before we start, please introduce yourself + add the hashtag into all your tweets too
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Tonight’s
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discussion topic is all about “Dealing with difficult colleagues” It’s BIG, so let’s start by defining what we mean
conorsmurf
Sep 11 @ 3:35 PM EDT
What if you're the 'difficult colleague'?
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:36 PM EDT
I've been accused of that sometimes myself ;-)
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In reply to @conorsmurf
CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:36 PM EDT
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Laurence Cuffe Maths educator KWETB. Watching Assassin's Creed for tips on tonights topic.
https://t.co/X6wIFLMD87
In reply to @fboss
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:37 PM EDT
Fred Boss, 2nd level Art teacher currently with
@NCCAie
+ wondereing if this topic is scaring people away
https://t.co/YZS0gyjM5e
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:37 PM EDT
My tip would be to watch someting else - it's not the best.
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In reply to @CuffeL
cirzie
Sep 11 @ 3:39 PM EDT
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Ciara Chaney, Maths Science and now officially a
#JCcoding
teacher 🎉 Fingal Community College, Swords. Tough topic tonight!!
In reply to @fboss
kevin_donegal92
Sep 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT
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is very quiet! Kevin, maths teacher Galway city
niallrabbitt
Sep 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT
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Niall here. I guess at this hour everyone is trying to put difficult colleagues behind them for the day!
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT
So, tonight's
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is on "Dealing with difficult colleagues" - bar
#personalityclashes
do we mean professionally/organisationally?
CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Inclined to agree, but I didn't choose the dvd's
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In reply to @fboss
marykateb
Sep 11 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Mary here in Tipp. Teaching RE, English and SPHE.
@fboss
think you might be right about tonight's topic.
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EllenKMetcalf
Sep 11 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Great topic in theory but likely to attact more lurkers than posters, though some might be busy making egg accounts!
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In reply to @fboss, @NCCAie
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT
I watched it because kids called me in to solve the art puzzles sometimes
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In reply to @CuffeL
EmilyDuignan
Sep 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT
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Emily, junior infants teacher in Co. Meath. Finding the lack of posts on tonight's topic very interesting!
languagesdude
Sep 11 @ 3:43 PM EDT
Damien , MFL teacher Waterford ...looking forward to this discussion
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MajellaDempsey
Sep 11 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Majella from Maynooth University.
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difficult colleagues, very broad subject!
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:44 PM EDT
So, can we define what we mean by tonight's topic - might help take some heat out it
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clareire
Sep 11 @ 3:44 PM EDT
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Clare - in Tipp - interesting that topic was voted for yet few tweets
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT
A colleague can be "difficult" in how they stand on a subject but it can be very valid + good to see other viewpoint
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cirzie
Sep 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Its a tough topic tonight
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🙈
paud_ie
Sep 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Too public a forum to air actual views?
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In reply to @clareire
kevin_donegal92
Sep 11 @ 3:46 PM EDT
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staffrooms a can be left empty with people avoiding difficult colleagues
CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Patience. Coming to the conclusion that your viewpoint may not be the only one, getting counselling. going hillwalking
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EmilyDuignan
Sep 11 @ 3:47 PM EDT
That's true. Do we mean the person is difficult in that we have differing standpoints and find it difficult to find a compromise?
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In reply to @fboss
EqualPayforNQTs
Sep 11 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Any advice on how to deal with teachers who keep telling us to wait for equal pay?
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CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Was that the game rather than the movie?
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In reply to @fboss
paud_ie
Sep 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT
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in the past I've met Ts who were very against any new methods or techniques being used. Very disparaging of research. Thoughts?
clareire
Sep 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT
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🖊difficult colleague = negative/toxic 🖋difficult colleague = colleague who won't collaborate ✒️difficult colleague = bully
In reply to @fboss
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Definitely the game
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#spoilers
In reply to @CuffeL
CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Ask them for money for food...
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In reply to @EqualPayforNQTs
fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:51 PM EDT
As an alternative read to tonight's
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check out
https://t.co/tEmYb4F4gc
where we discussed NQTs + older taechers cooperating
DpDonal
Sep 11 @ 3:52 PM EDT
It's a job, & a good one at that. Get in, do our jobs, excel & focus on students. Colleagues? "Kill 'em with kindness."
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CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Best way to push new approaches, is when you can show they save time. Good teachers are always time poor!
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In reply to @paud_ie
ACE_Ireland
Sep 11 @ 3:53 PM EDT
I think I miss the old fashioned blackboards 😢
#chalkdust
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In reply to @ParisHilton
conorsmurf
Sep 11 @ 3:53 PM EDT
The topic is about dealing with difficult colleagues but twitter, home of the difficult colleague, is silent...
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MajellaDempsey
Sep 11 @ 3:54 PM EDT
Honest communication is best plan and if that doesn't work try avoidance!
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 3:55 PM EDT
I'm trawling previous
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discussions to see if we've discussed something similar - have a feeling we did . . .
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DpDonal
Sep 11 @ 3:55 PM EDT
Whilst I do agree that some do require support in tonight's topic, I don't think it deserves air time.
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DpDonal
Sep 11 @ 3:57 PM EDT
These colleagues are the (not so) silent minority. Profession is packed with exceptionally great people that just happen to teach.
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CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 3:58 PM EDT
Read up on the culture of organisations, Try and open up communications. Say how it affects you, not what someone should do.
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hey_km
Sep 11 @ 3:59 PM EDT
Hey
@fboss
, would it be worth trying Padlet or another safer space to get the
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chat flowing? Great topic, but I sense trepidation!
clareire
Sep 11 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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it's important that teachers know about carecall - 5 free counselling sessions per year. Also take ownership of own wellbeing
cirzie
Sep 11 @ 4:00 PM EDT
The Silence... all fearing that we are the dreaded 'Difficult Colleague'!!
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:01 PM EDT
We’re at the halfway point of tonight’s
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discussion which is all about “Dealing with difficult colleagues”
fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:01 PM EDT
"Does staff culture affect overall teaching in schools?" was a siilarly-ish themed
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discussion
https://t.co/uJIpHrxfCV
pamelaaobrien
Sep 11 @ 4:02 PM EDT
forget about the difficult colleagues, this seems to be a difficult topic!! :)
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In reply to @fboss
clareire
Sep 11 @ 4:03 PM EDT
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schools are full of supportive, collaborative, professional, kind people who are happy to be doing
#thebestjobintheworld
fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:03 PM EDT
I'm on for keeping it here as
@clareire
& other have said tonight "focus on the positives"
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In reply to @hey_km, @clareire
MajellaDempsey
Sep 11 @ 4:03 PM EDT
In fairness we all have our 'difficult moments' What we care about is worth fighting for but can't be about winning or point scor
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cirzie
Sep 11 @ 4:00 PM EDT
The Silence... all fearing that we are the dreaded 'Difficult Colleague'!!
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FoleyKev
Sep 11 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Kevin a Teaching Principal with Irelands first and only School STEAM Room joining late
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DearestFrankie
Sep 11 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Culture is set from the top imo
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:04 PM EDT
"Dealing" with a difficult colleague, I think, should not be seen as a "final" statement
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CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 4:05 PM EDT
I walk out without cleaning the board, and pocket the IWB pens at all possible opportunities. Talking about me?
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In reply to @cirzie
DpDonal
Sep 11 @ 4:06 PM EDT
Must go & process September returns! Will catch up later
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Keep it positive! Don't let 'them' get to us 👍
MajellaDempsey
Sep 11 @ 4:07 PM EDT
But sometimes maintained out of fear of change 'the way we do things here' conflict not always bad & can lead 2 learning & change
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DearestFrankie
Sep 11 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Culture is set from the top imo
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Mr_PHuff
Sep 11 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Some difficulty can be attributed to personality clashes. Understanding & patience key in such cases. Nobody's fault sometimes!
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pamelaaobrien
Sep 11 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Something like that Laurence 😂😂😂
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In reply to @CuffeL, @cirzie
MariaMernagh
Sep 11 @ 4:08 PM EDT
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. New NQT account. Give it a follow 😊
RangAoifeBlog
Sep 11 @ 4:06 PM EDT
Branching out from my instagram and out of my comfort zone! Looking forward to tweeting with my 4th class this year 😊
#iteachtoo
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:09 PM EDT
Thanks for taking part in tonight's
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discussion - transcript will be published tomorrow to let you catch up
In reply to @DpDonal
pamelaaobrien
Sep 11 @ 4:09 PM EDT
Agreed Fred. Sometimes these kinds of 'difficult' colleagues can bring out the best in all of us
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In reply to @fboss
clareire
Sep 11 @ 4:09 PM EDT
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good point but both parties have to be prepared 2 meet half way
In reply to @Mr_PHuff
DearestFrankie
Sep 11 @ 4:10 PM EDT
Both genders represented in good numbers on the staff sorts out a lot of the same topics being rehashed in staffroom
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:10 PM EDT
Good point from
@Mr_PHuff
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Mr_PHuff
Sep 11 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Some difficulty can be attributed to personality clashes. Understanding & patience key in such cases. Nobody's fault sometimes!
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CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 4:12 PM EDT
Don't hold grudges, and remember that tomorrow is another day. Acknowledge other approaches.
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In reply to @Mr_PHuff
ismiseMairead
Sep 11 @ 4:12 PM EDT
Mairéad Mhic Liam, múinteoir Gaeilge and jobsharer for the current year in a community school
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clareire
Sep 11 @ 4:12 PM EDT
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we do learn a lot from dealing with difficult situations but "in the moment" it can be extremely stressful - it's amazing how...
In reply to @pamelaaobrien, @fboss
fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:12 PM EDT
I'll hold off on creating the transcript until after lunch in that case
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In reply to @hey_km, @clareire
ismiseMairead
Sep 11 @ 4:13 PM EDT
Treat them like a difficult sibling. Talk it out, let time pass, forgive, move on, know that ur in it together & on the same team
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Mr_PHuff
Sep 11 @ 4:14 PM EDT
Ideally, though not necessarily! Colleague who realises could take the high road. Again, would say that it's some cases, not all.
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In reply to @clareire
cirzie
Sep 11 @ 4:17 PM EDT
More chat needed around conflict management in our schools.Discussed in my PGDEL group last yr but never with my colleagues
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pamelaaobrien
Sep 11 @ 4:17 PM EDT
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clareire
Sep 11 @ 4:13 PM EDT
how quickly we adjust & dealing effectively with difficult situations become the norm - in essence we get better at it...
In reply to @pamelaaobrien, @fboss
fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:17 PM EDT
A previous
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discussion interestingly focused on "Improving teacher performance through peer evaluation"
https://t.co/9KIkyz8wgt
RangAoifeBlog
Sep 11 @ 4:18 PM EDT
Lil pic of my classroom... It's coming together! You can find more on my instagram... @ rangaoife ✏️📚
#rangaceathair
#nqt
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fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:19 PM EDT
Interesting point - this must be discussed on leadership courses as well as training for new DPs & Ps
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In reply to @cirzie
MariaMernagh
Sep 11 @ 4:19 PM EDT
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. Available to teachers in the Dun Laoghaire Rathdown area.
DLR_Libraries
Sep 11 @ 9:58 AM EDT
We've a great selection of Classroom Readers available for schools to borrow. Check out the complete list here.
https://t.co/ufECaMeUzo
CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Realise that they may be just venting at you because a class has pushed them hard. Make space and support.
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In reply to @Mr_PHuff, @clareire
MajellaDempsey
Sep 11 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Don't take things personally, move on and be open to seeing both sides of situations. Never know what people are going home to
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ismiseMairead
Sep 11 @ 4:13 PM EDT
Treat them like a difficult sibling. Talk it out, let time pass, forgive, move on, know that ur in it together & on the same team
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pamelaaobrien
Sep 11 @ 4:21 PM EDT
agreed Clare, and sometimes if those difficult colleagues are coming from a good place it can make you rethink your viewpoint
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In reply to @clareire, @fboss
clareire
Sep 11 @ 4:21 PM EDT
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thx
@fboss
& 2 all busy wk ahead including
#forbairt
weekend & first
#tl21
for '17 with v supportive
@colmhuirecoed
colleagues
cirzie
Sep 11 @ 4:23 PM EDT
i'd go further and say all PME courses.We'll deal with difficult people in all walks of life.Conflict Management=key people skill
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In reply to @fboss
fboss
Sep 11 @ 4:26 PM EDT
We're into the famous final five minutes of tonight's
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where we ask for solutions and last thoughts and suggestions
CuffeL
Sep 11 @ 4:27 PM EDT
Change management can leave people frayed at the edges. Reassure and support
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In reply to @cirzie, @fboss
DearestFrankie
Sep 11 @ 4:28 PM EDT
Since move in2 LS it struck me frm being in diff classes just how hard every1 works & why we shud have more cake in the staffroom😅
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