#IASPAChat Archive


Thursday November 1, 2018
9:00 AM EDT

  • mportwoodpro Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    Michael Portwood Asst. Supt for HR Homer CCSD 33C 1988 Sundance (...which isn't all that glamorous, but the Alpine tape deck was saweet.) #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    Monica Schroeder, Deputy Superintendent, NSSD112, Highland Park, IL, 1990 Honda, Prelude, #IASPAchat
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    Bonnie Jordan, Executive Director, Philip J Rock Center and School, Glen Ellyn IL. 1977 teal mustang(the ugly one) #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    Welcome: Please tell us your name, job title, location and tell us the make and model of your first car. #IASPAchat
  • Clmoore2Moore Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    A1: Cheryl Moore, Director of Human Resources, CHSD94 - West Chicago. Oldsmobile Delta 88 #IASPAchat
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    A0 Laurie Campbell, Assistant Superintendent for Human Resources, Oak Park Elementary District 97, 1978 Ford Mustang (used...obviously!). #IASPAchat @_IASPA_
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    Use #IASPAchat and the format Q1, Q2, Q3...A1, A2, A3... in each of your responses
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:00 AM EDT
    Hello fellow #IASPAChat participants! I'm Elizabeth Sullivan, Compensation & Benefits Supervisor from Marshall, MN. I work at an educational service agency serving 18 counties and my first car was a Buick LeSabre.
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Greetings, #IASPAchat! Ross Vittore, Executive Director of Human Resources @CCSD59, #FordMustang
  • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Mike Johann Executive Director IASPA First car 1963 VW Beetle #IASPAchat
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Excited to participate today! Lori Reffert, Sr. Director Talent Acquisition & Management. Buick LaSabre #IASPAchat #K12Talent
  • raychung219 Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    A0. Ray Chung (first time participating in the #IASPAchat!!) Legal Associate @ District 219 in Skokie. Hyundai Sonata
    In reply to @_IASPA_, @Mschroeder6, @DaleFisherEdD, @_AASPA_, @azaspaa, @MASPAHR, @TASPA3, @OaspaBoard, @ilprincipals, @IllinoisASA, @Mjohann51, @JLiewehr, @JustinLSchooley
  • JRChambersD87 Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Good Morning! Looking forward to an informative chat today. I am Josh Chambers, Asst Supt of HR for Glenbard D87. 1988 Ford Thunderbird Sports Coupe with a 5.0L V8 #IASPAchat @_IASPA_ #ILHRLeaders
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Hi, Pete Theis, Asst. Supt. for HR, Downers Grove #99. First car was a Dodge Dart. #IASPAchat
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    A0: Dale Fisher, Asst. Supt. for HR, Deerfield 109, Deerfield, IL. 1976 Mercury Grand Marquis. You'll correctly note that this is the "Uncle Buck" car from the 80's movie of the same name. It was a real treat to have such a bad car. 11 miles per gallon on gas! #IASPAchat
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Good Morning #ILHRLeaders! Kathleen Kelly Colgan, Executive Director of Human Resources for J.Sterling Morton HS District 201 in Cicero, IL. My first car was a 1993 gold Saturn. Pretty sweet, clearly. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:01 AM EDT
    Welcome to #IASPAchat! TY for joining us from MN.
    In reply to @E_A_Sully
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:02 AM EDT
    Door open. Being a presence in the building. Listening before responding, then responding honestly. #IASPAchat
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:02 AM EDT
    A1: We try our best to keep the lines of communication open and make sure they're informed. One example is providing them with our board agenda a week prior to the meeting, when we send it out to the board members. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:02 AM EDT
    Q1: What have you done in the past in order to establish trust with Union leadership? #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:02 AM EDT
    Welcome to Lori to #IASPAchat! Great to see you!
    In reply to @ReffertL
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:02 AM EDT
    Michael E. Robey, Ed. D., Assistant Regional Superintendent of Schools in DuPage County. 1973 Pontiac Lemans. Liked it so much it was also my second car after version 1 died. #IASPAchat
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1: Worked on building a relationship based on respect so that we could build to trust...and always keep my word. #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1: I meet biweekly with the Union President to discuss issues or concerns. I also walk the halls in our buildings to start every morning, and do monthly lunch drop-ins at each building for staff. #IASPAchat
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1: I have had open conversations with union leadership explaining I strive to be fair and consistent while making student centered decisions. Everything 'works' better when we are able to discuss situations, concerns, etc. #IASPAchat #k12talent
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1: Transparent & proactive communication is key. Monthly meetings for face-to-face conversations have been helpful for proactive communication. #IASPAchat
  • JRChambersD87 Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1 Establishing trust is about communication, empathy, and standing by your word. Too often we forget that we are #InThisTogether #IASPAchat #ILHRLeaders @GlenbardDist87 @Gea87
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1: I go out of my way to loop in union leadership to make sure they are "in the know." I never stray away from this approach because it has eliminated any belief that information is being withheld. #IASPAchat
  • raychung219 Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    A1. Establishing trust w/ union (& anyone) starts w/ the small, mundane moments. Be fair/be honesty/have integrity in small (even non-work) moments to establish trust for more contentious moments, especially when you're asking for the benefit of doubt. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @_IASPA_, @Mschroeder6, @DaleFisherEdD, @_AASPA_, @azaspaa, @MASPAHR, @TASPA3, @OaspaBoard, @ilprincipals, @IllinoisASA, @Mjohann51, @JLiewehr, @JustinLSchooley
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    Welcome to #IASPAchat! TY for joining us from MN. Great to see you again!
    In reply to @E_A_Sully
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:03 AM EDT
    Monthly breakfasts, involve in decision-making process, monthly or weekly meetings to discuss issues prior to developing, encourage staff to join the union for knowledge and support. Can be a positive thing for both staff and admin. #IASPAchat
  • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:04 AM EDT
    A1. Informal meetings based on just getting to know each other as people first. Lunch on me. Check-ins in their office space to say hi and see how things are going. And, keeping my word early on. #IASPAchat
  • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:04 AM EDT
    A1 In order to build trust you first have to build a relationship. you must "walk the walk, talk the talk". #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:04 AM EDT
    Cool car! Welcome to #IASPAchat.
    In reply to @me_robey
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:05 AM EDT
    A1: Both union leadership and myself are new to our roles…We have weekly touch bases scheduled to build a relationship and support each other in our shared effort to support others. #IASPAchat
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:05 AM EDT
    A2 #IASPAchat @_IASPA_ The three skills most important to any relationship: presume positive intentions, seek to understand (aka listen first), and be hard on problems but soft on people.
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:06 AM EDT
    I'm sure that lunch on you goes over well too! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @TomKim219
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:06 AM EDT
    Yes!!!!#IASPAchat
    In reply to @Mjohann51
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:07 AM EDT
    A2: Compassion, empathy and excellent listening. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:07 AM EDT
    Q2: What 3 interpersonal skills are most integral to Union relationships? #IASPAchat
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:07 AM EDT
    Q2: Empathic listening, communication with eye contact, respect for differences and similarities. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:07 AM EDT
    Great to see you Ross! Frequent communication is great for building communication. #IASPAchat
    • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:05 AM EDT
      A1: Both union leadership and myself are new to our roles…We have weekly touch bases scheduled to build a relationship and support each other in our shared effort to support others. #IASPAchat
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    A2: Being respectful, actively listening and being a good communicator are 3 interpersonal skills that will take you far in the union relationship (and pretty much all others!) #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    A2: You must have strong interpersonal skills to resolve conflicts successfully. I think the top 3 are listening (hears all sides of a conflict), problem solving skills (with effective solutions), and verbal & non-verbal communication skills. #IASPAchat
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    A2: Communication (verbal & non-verbal), patience & problem solving are just 3 of the skills needed. They may change based on situation. #IASPAchat #k12talent
  • mportwoodpro Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    Q2: Uncompromising honesty, being quick to listen/slow to anger, problem solving. #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    A2: I think listening is the most important, followed by empathy, and patience. Staff want to be heard, understood, and appreciated. #IASPAchat
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    A2: Active listening, problem solving, and rapport building. All are key for any relational HR person to succeed. And I am by no means perfect. I work on these skills endlessly. #IASPAchat
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    A2 Trust, open communication, give and take. Tackle challenging people together. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
    Yes, @LaurieMCampbell! Seek to understand is important. #IASPAchat
    • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:05 AM EDT
      A2 #IASPAchat @_IASPA_ The three skills most important to any relationship: presume positive intentions, seek to understand (aka listen first), and be hard on problems but soft on people.
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:09 AM EDT
    A2: Positive Attitude, Collaboration & Relationship Management #IASPAchat
  • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:10 AM EDT
    A2. Empathy, attitude, and ability to collaborate #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:10 AM EDT
    I like the "quick to listen" and "slow to anger" @mportwoodpro! #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:11 AM EDT
    Empathy goes a long way @petetheisD99HR. I agree completely! #IASPAchat
    • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
      A2: I think listening is the most important, followed by empathy, and patience. Staff want to be heard, understood, and appreciated. #IASPAchat
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:12 AM EDT
    A3: We currently have a task force to explore alternative compensation structures beside the traditional lane & step. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:12 AM EDT
    Q3: Do you have any joint efforts/initiatives that demonstrate collaboration and partnership with the Union? #IASPAchat
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:12 AM EDT
    Q3: Regular conversations have reduced grievances to zero. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:12 AM EDT
    Tackling challenging issues together is very important. #IASPAchat
    • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:08 AM EDT
      A2 Trust, open communication, give and take. Tackle challenging people together. #IASPAchat
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3: We have partnered in many efforts. I think it is important to seek opportunities to communicate and educate jointly. #IASPAchat @_IASPA_
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3: We have a District Insurance Committee that determine our rates, we overhauled our Evaluation model through a large committee, and we have staff serving on committees for our referendum construction projects. #IASPAchat
  • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A2 1. Listen , 2. Listen, https://t.co/xJk49uCv5O first to understand, then to be understood. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3: Our evaluation, culture, & calendar committees w/reps selected by the union have a history of positive collaborative partnerships/outcomes. Our evaluation process is a great example of our teamwork. Ea. year we revamp the process based on our collective feedback. #IASPAchat
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3: One of our greatest successes was the partnership that was forged in the overhauling of our evaluation system. Honest communication about what each side needed for the system to succeed was honored at all times. #IASPAchat
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3: We have several joint efforts with our union. One of the biggest that comes to mind deals with internal staffing. We work together when it comes to adds/cuts to make sure we are on the same page; helps the process go much smoother when we collaborate. #IASPAchat #k12talent
  • JRChambersD87 Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3 In @GlenbardDist87 we do many things collaboratively with @Gea87 Evaluation, Professional Development, and technology are all areas where our decisions are shaped by groups working together. #ILHRLeaders #IASPAchat @_IASPA_
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A.2 Regular communication, listening, sensitivity #IASPAchat
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    A3 In the past; negotiations, steering committees, joint presentations, professional development. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:13 AM EDT
    Using collaborative structures to problem solve issues and come up with creative solutions is always preferred. #IASPAchat
    • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:12 AM EDT
      A3: We currently have a task force to explore alternative compensation structures beside the traditional lane & step. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:14 AM EDT
    Great to see you Herschel! I agree with your 3 interpersonal skills too. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @HerschelHannah
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:15 AM EDT
    A3: We have made an effort to partner on joint communications to staff to show our aligned thinking and beliefs related to supporting our learning community. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:15 AM EDT
    Proactive and joint communication works very well! Great strategy @rossvittore. #IASPAchat
    • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:15 AM EDT
      A3: We have made an effort to partner on joint communications to staff to show our aligned thinking and beliefs related to supporting our learning community. #IASPAchat
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:16 AM EDT
    A2. Communication, listening, relationship building #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:16 AM EDT
    What type of joint presentations have you done? I'm interested in this approach. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @me_robey
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:17 AM EDT
    Q4: Remember to not let your guard down, and always have the CBA within reach. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:17 AM EDT
    Q4: Have there been any lessons you've learned with regards to your approach or involvement with the union? #IASPAchat
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:17 AM EDT
    A4: If you are allowing a benefit to continue that a subgroup normally wouldn't have, make sure to put a sunset clause in the agreement! #IASPAchat
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    A4: That good communication is key! Regular communication - not just when there is an issue -builds trust and respect. #IASPAchat
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    A4: I've learned things work out much better/relationship is better overall when I 'keep them in the loop' on larger issues. My approach always focuses on remaining fair, consistent and referencing the CBA. #IASPAchat #k12talent
  • mportwoodpro Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    Q4: Fences make great neighbors (and for great union relationships). It's crucial to define which decisions are shared and are up for discussion, and which are the rightful responsibility of leadership (...with collective input, of course.) #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    A4: Always pick up the phone or meet face-face-to face when there's conflict. Back and forth emails cannot replace the power of hearing someone's voice and working through an issue. #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    A4: I learned that even though I saw myself as having strong relationships with staff prior to coming into this role, that everything changed and that I needed to work to gain trust again. #IASPAchat
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    A4: Uncomfortable discourse is commonplace but necessary. Ethical and honest communication from day 1 helps eradicate barriers and engage in problem solving. #IASPAchat
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    Our joint efforts include the district appraisal team, district leadership team, and curriculum teams #IASPAchat
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    A4 Work with and not against. Know the real power brokers because it can turn around on you quickly. Communicate jointly because union leaders don’t always know or pursue explanations the same as you would and there can be mis-perception. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    Yes, refer back to the CBA and board policies. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @BonnieJordan3
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
    Great reminder! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @E_A_Sully
  • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:19 AM EDT
    A4 It's important to keep the end in mind...sometimes that means taking the high road...at least temporarily. #IASPAchat
  • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:19 AM EDT
    A4. Be clear to avoid misunderstandings, if you're not sure, ask and take good notes. In the end, it helps everyone. Remember we are ALL educators and working together! #IASPAchat
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:20 AM EDT
    A4: I have quickly learned, and appreciate, the proactive check-in...with the intent of seeking to understand for joint problem-solving purposes. #IASPAchat
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:20 AM EDT
    A4: #IASPAchat @_IASPA_ Be open, be humble, but don't be afraid to stand up for what is good for students. A focus on students is a place where common ground is often found.
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:20 AM EDT
    I couldn't agree with you more! This job is humbling. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @petetheisD99HR
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:20 AM EDT
    Yes! Regular communication is key @KathleenKColgan. #IASPAchat
    • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
      A4: That good communication is key! Regular communication - not just when there is an issue -builds trust and respect. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:21 AM EDT
    Fair and consistent is typically what people are seeking as we solve issues @ReffertL. You got it! #IASPAchat
    • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
      A4: I've learned things work out much better/relationship is better overall when I 'keep them in the loop' on larger issues. My approach always focuses on remaining fair, consistent and referencing the CBA. #IASPAchat #k12talent
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
    Q5: Not really. I embrace conflict and the chance to debate. I always go into a discussion with the question "How does this help our students?" #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
    Q5: Do you have any norms or explicit mutually agreeable expectations when it comes to conflict? #IASPAchat
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
    A5: Definitely! All of the norms are pictured here. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
    I love this phrase "uncomfortable discourse!" Yes, you must be comfortable with conflict if you work in HR @DaleFisherEdD. #IASPAchat
    • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
      A4: Uncomfortable discourse is commonplace but necessary. Ethical and honest communication from day 1 helps eradicate barriers and engage in problem solving. #IASPAchat
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
    A. Honest communication, based on established mutual trust & respect has been essential in developing a positive relationship with our union. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
    I like the phrase "work with and not against" @me_robey. Totally agree! #IASPAchat
    • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:18 AM EDT
      A4 Work with and not against. Know the real power brokers because it can turn around on you quickly. Communicate jointly because union leaders don’t always know or pursue explanations the same as you would and there can be mis-perception. #IASPAchat
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5: Interested to see others' experience with this! #IASPAchat
  • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5. I don't know if we purposefully identified this, but I can say we have really focused on hearing each other and acknowledging each other's perspective #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5: We use Robert Garmston's The Adaptive School norms. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5: Again, work through conflict in a face-to-face setting or via phone. We have each other's cell numbers to seek to understand or clarify as issues arise. Meeting in person is preferred when there are issues that need to be problem solved at a deeper level. #IASPAchat
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5: One norm is no surprises. We keep each other informed and work hard to be proactive with communication. Conflict is inevitable but we need to disagree with respect. As stated before, hard on problems..easy on people. #iaspachat @_IASPA_
  • JRChambersD87 Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5 Probably the rule that we attempt to live by is #NoSurprises Building issues should not be brought to me before they have been discussed with the Principal. And vice-versa. This has worked well for our relationships. #IASPAchat #ILHRLeaders @_IASPA_
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5: There are a multitude of devices at our fingertips that allows us to inform each other of what is occurring ASAP, so surprises are dramatically reduced. We do this so at a minimum, they know that I'm sharing what I can share at that particular moment in time. #IASPAchat
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    A5 Be proactive and understand that you have the time, they may not because they are teaching (usually). Try to be support and make it easy for them by providing research, suggestions, options. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
    Yes, it's important to remember that you will continue to work with the majority of the parties for a long time. #IASPAchat
    • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:19 AM EDT
      A4 It's important to keep the end in mind...sometimes that means taking the high road...at least temporarily. #IASPAchat
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:24 AM EDT
    A. 4. Returning phone calls and e-mails in a a timely fashion goes a long way in keeping the relationship solid. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:24 AM EDT
    Yes, don't be afraid to ask for clarification! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @TomKim219
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:24 AM EDT
    So true @LaurieMCampbell! Common ground can often be found in the Ss. #IASPAchat
    • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:20 AM EDT
      A4: #IASPAchat @_IASPA_ Be open, be humble, but don't be afraid to stand up for what is good for students. A focus on students is a place where common ground is often found.
  • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:24 AM EDT
    A5 Presume positive intent...always #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:24 AM EDT
    Common theme running through today - face-to-face meetings. #IASPAchat
    • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:23 AM EDT
      A5: Again, work through conflict in a face-to-face setting or via phone. We have each other's cell numbers to seek to understand or clarify as issues arise. Meeting in person is preferred when there are issues that need to be problem solved at a deeper level. #IASPAchat
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:25 AM EDT
    A5: We have mutually agreed to encourage individuals with concerns to begin resolution attempts with the source at the building-level prior to seeking union or district-level support. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:25 AM EDT
    I like this question @bonniejordon3! #IASPAchat
    • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:22 AM EDT
      Q5: Not really. I embrace conflict and the chance to debate. I always go into a discussion with the question "How does this help our students?" #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:25 AM EDT
    Excellent resource! TY for sharing @E_A_Sully. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:26 AM EDT
    Nice! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @HerschelHannah
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:27 AM EDT
    Q6: guardedly open with email follow up for clarification #IASPAchat
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:27 AM EDT
    A6: Prompt, frequent, straightforward and thorough. Communication is key to preventing misunderstandings from occurring. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:27 AM EDT
    Q6: Describe your communication approach with Union leadership. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:27 AM EDT
    Yes, work through the proper channels first! @JRChambersD87 I agree with the "no surprises" rule. #IASPAchat
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:27 AM EDT
    A. 5. We don't necessarily have norms per se. What's best for teaching and learning usually anchors our conversations. #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    A6: I try to be as transparent, straight forward, and timely as I can. We want both sides to reach out as soon as there is a question or a concern. #IASPAchat
  • JRChambersD87 Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    A6 Direct, timely, and honest. I will always find time for a call from Union leadership. And they always take mine. #IASPAchat #ILHRLeaders @_IASPA_
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    A6: Consistent, frequent, open, and honest. You can't build a relationship without communication, so being in touch with each other often is critical. #IASPAchat
  • mportwoodpro Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    Q6: 1. Be slow to speak/quick to listen 2. Fight the temptation to assume intent (no attribution). 3. Considering all things, including the fidelity of contract language and the health of the system, ...side with the employee when you can. #IASPAchat
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    A6: We have four different union groups in District 97. Weekly meetings with the teachers union (500+ employees). Monthly with the Teaching Assistant and Educational Support Personnel Unions, Custodial Union as needed. #IASPAchat @_IASPA_
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    A6: Early, often, and open. It took a lot of focus to get to this point but it has become our norm. In the end, there has to be a sense of partnership otherwise the possibility for a contentious relationship will quickly settle in. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    Hmmm... I'm very interested to learn more. TY @petetheisD99HR for sharing. #IASPAchat
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
    A6 Flexible. Generally collaborative, but some need a different approach. Depends on the individual’s and group’s goals. #IASPAchat
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:30 AM EDT
    A6: Our communication approach has been very open & honest. As partnered problem-solvers, we both need to know exactly what we are dealing with so we can bring our best solutions to the table. #IASPAchat
  • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:30 AM EDT
    A6. Being solution based, positive mindset. Making as much attempt as possible to always be proactive in our heads ups! #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:30 AM EDT
    Yes, returning emails and calls in a timely fashion and sharing when you'll look into something. Often times not stating that you'll get back to them (and ignoring an email) or following thru on your word is when people lose trust. Yes, @HerschelHannah #IASPAchat
    • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:24 AM EDT
      A. 4. Returning phone calls and e-mails in a a timely fashion goes a long way in keeping the relationship solid. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:30 AM EDT
    YEP! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @Mjohann51
  • E_A_Sully Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
    A7: Annually, we review the CBAs with administration and ask if there are any questions they have in interpreting the language. We ask them for input when we are negotiating any new language or making changes to current. Lastly, instruct them to ask before doing if ?s. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
    Q7: How do you coach your administrators to correctly apply the CBA? #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
    Being timely is a theme that I'm picking up on today's chat too @petetheiseD99HR. People must communicate proactively and follow up on what they say they will do. #IASPAchat
    • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:28 AM EDT
      A6: I try to be as transparent, straight forward, and timely as I can. We want both sides to reach out as soon as there is a question or a concern. #IASPAchat
  • me_robey Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
    Always refer here first and follow what it says. The CBA is not optional! Discuss changes jointly with union leadership. Any challenges presented ... OK, let’s talk. Most are here to do the right thing and what is best for students. #IASPAchat
  • HerschelHannah Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
    Our relationship with our union can be characterized as positive and proactive in nature. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
    I love this video too! Listen, Linda! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @mportwoodpro
  • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7: This is an ongoing process. 4 CBAs make it complex. When we have issues, we talk as individuals or bring it to the entire team. I use our weekly Admin Update email for reminders related to the CBAs. #IASPAchat @_IASPA_
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7: They should know the areas of the CBA that pertain to their responsibilities, but above all else, when in doubt, "See Pete" #IASPAchat
  • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7. Informally at this point and referencing items as issues come up. Try to point admin to the specific language as much as possible so people learn where to look and the habit of consulting the CBA when decision making. #IASPAchat
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7: Read it, learn it and ASK questions! Every situation has it's own nuances and talking it through with me will help in understanding. #IASPAchat
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7: We are constantly referring to CBA language and if it is unclear, we discuss as a team to come to an understanding and make sure we are all on the same page - again, focusing on fair & consistent helps tremendously. #IASPAchat #k12talent
  • ChrisWolk Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A8: Making sure leadership all have the most recent CBA! Reviewing the CBA to ensure leadership is familiar with the language and any changes that may have occurred over time. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7: We explain the "why," remind them of timelines, review monthly Principal Advisory Committee mins (joint meeting b/w building reps/principal) & offer support/follow up, & offer support/coach when applying aspects of the CBA that we know are sensitive. #IASPAchat
  • DaleFisherEdD - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
    A7: Much like my last response; early, often, and open. We educate our admin team as soon as possible about the culture that we have created and why adherence to the verbiage agreed to in the CBA is critical. Failure to comply results in mistrust, which erodes culture! #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:34 AM EDT
    A7: We explain the "why," remind them of timelines, we follow up on our joint meeting b/w cabinet & union leadership & offer support/follow up as needed, & offer support/coach when applying aspects of the CBA that we know are sensitive. #IASPAchat
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:35 AM EDT
    A7: I’ve noticed that most support calls arrive prior to admin, and staff, checking the CBA on their own. Applying the CBA correctly across the system begins with staff accessing the CBA to find answers and/or know which questions to ask. #IASPAchat
  • petetheisD99HR Nov 1 @ 9:35 AM EDT
    Heads-ups are critical to developing trusting relationships @TomKim219 #IASPAchat
    • TomKim219 Nov 1 @ 9:30 AM EDT
      A6. Being solution based, positive mindset. Making as much attempt as possible to always be proactive in our heads ups! #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:35 AM EDT
    Yep, call Monica works very well too! We talk about the power of picking up the phone and calling in a question. #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:36 AM EDT
    Our union is doing a spectacular job this year of highlighting an aspect of the CBA each month so that their members understand the CBA too. It's great for all parties to know what's in the CBA. #IASPAchat
    • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:35 AM EDT
      A7: I’ve noticed that most support calls arrive prior to admin, and staff, checking the CBA on their own. Applying the CBA correctly across the system begins with staff accessing the CBA to find answers and/or know which questions to ask. #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:37 AM EDT
    We look forward to seeing you on December 6, 2018 at 8:00 AM CST for our next #IASPAchat.
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:37 AM EDT
    Frequent updates are a great idea @LaurieMCampbell! #IASPAchat
    • LaurieMCampbell Nov 1 @ 9:33 AM EDT
      A7: This is an ongoing process. 4 CBAs make it complex. When we have issues, we talk as individuals or bring it to the entire team. I use our weekly Admin Update email for reminders related to the CBAs. #IASPAchat @_IASPA_
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:39 AM EDT
    Yes, you're right! People shouldn't go off of memory. The current CBA must be read, reviewed, and discussed. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @ChrisWolk
  • rossvittore Nov 1 @ 9:40 AM EDT
    Thank you @Mschroeder6 & @DaleFisherEdD for another wonderful professional learning opportunity with #IASPAchat!
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:40 AM EDT
    Forgot to add #IASPAchat #twitternovice
    • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:32 AM EDT
      Q7: I lead by example. In addition, I give them a copy of wise words given to me at an @_IASPA_ conference:
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:40 AM EDT
    Great to see you today @rossvittore! TY for participating in #IASPAchat.
  • Mjohann51 Nov 1 @ 9:40 AM EDT
    Thanks to @Mschroeder6, @DaleFisherEdD and all participants for another great chat! #IASPAchat
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:41 AM EDT
    Archive of today's #IASPAchat will be shared soon! Thank you for joining this far reaching chat for school HR professionals and eduleaders!
  • _IASPA_ - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:41 AM EDT
    Be sure to follow your colleagues who joined us today for #IASPAchat. Grow your #PLN!
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:41 AM EDT
    So happy that you joined us @E_A_Sully! TY for participating in #IASPAchat. We enjoyed meeting you in MN!
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:41 AM EDT
    Great to see you! #IASPAchat
    In reply to @raychung219, @_IASPA_, @DaleFisherEdD, @_AASPA_, @azaspaa, @MASPAHR, @TASPA3, @OaspaBoard, @ilprincipals, @IllinoisASA, @Mjohann51, @JLiewehr, @JustinLSchooley
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:42 AM EDT
    TY @Mjohann51 for all of your support! Great to see you this morning on #IASPAchat
  • BonnieJordan3 Nov 1 @ 9:42 AM EDT
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:43 AM EDT
    TY @BonnieJordan3 for joining us this morning & sharing this resource! #IASPAchat
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:43 AM EDT
    We enjoyed seeing so many of you on #IASPAchat this morning. TY for joining us. We'll see you next month.
  • Mschroeder6 - Moderator Nov 1 @ 9:44 AM EDT
    TY @BonnieJordan3! It's always great to see and chat with you. #IASPAchat
  • JRChambersD87 Nov 1 @ 9:58 AM EDT
    Thanks for the mention! Mschroeder6: Yes, work through the proper channels first! JRChambersD87 I agree with the "no surprises" rule. #IASPAchat https://t.co/vmYga2rp0O
  • KathleenKColgan Nov 1 @ 10:02 AM EDT
    Another great #IASPAchat this morning! Thanks @Mschroeder6 & @DaleFisherEdD for building this PLN!
  • ReffertL Nov 1 @ 10:06 AM EDT
    Love this idea! I have done this with some areas (ex: types of Leaves and when they can be used) by sharing in our weekly District Wide Communications email. #IASPAchat
    In reply to @Mschroeder6