Please join us for a weekly conversation about design thinking in K12 education. We will have a variety of moderators with a wide range and depth of design thinking experiences. Each week, we will connect the dots to the design thinking methodology and how it can and will play a bigger role in today’s K12 educational arena.
Football may turn some people off, but tonight's #dtk12chat is inspired by my love for American football & my appreciation and interest in sports & how players learn and thrive in their skills & the role coaches play. Join us now to talk #designthinking Who's around tonight?!
A1: completely murky, and that is one of the things I think about. And is coach even limited to athletics. Are teachers limited to academia? So.many.questions. #dtk12chat
A1 When I coached b-ball I stressed decision making. There were good plays and better plays. As a T some of that rings true. Strategy, reflection, encouragement. #dtk12chat
Could they? What would the equivalent of benching a kid be in a classroom? Taking them off a project maybe... but how, what about the grade, etc? #dtk12chat
A1 if I have to give a difference it is around motivation. coaches can you motivation that teachers are not able to use. Ex Running for punishment or corrections #dtk12chat
A1 When I coached b-ball I stressed decision making. There were good plays and better plays. As a T some of that rings true. Strategy, reflection, encouragement. #dtk12chat
I was thinking that too! In fact, some teachers at our school have begun giving student who are "a little" tardy the option of push ups instead of a detention hour. (They always pick push ups) #dtk12chat
Great point! I've definitely pulled kids out of groups, but I wouldn't pull them out the assessment ("the game") - I'd just give them an alternative one.
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They are assessed to some extent by ability & effort in practice and games and this is often reflected in more playing time or starting positions... and it's public too, that's another thing... but still doesn't FEEL like "grades" - Why not? #dtk12chat
They are assessed to some extent by ability & effort in practice and games and this is often reflected in more playing time or starting positions... and it's public too, that's another thing... but still doesn't FEEL like "grades" - Why not? #dtk12chat
#dtk12chat A1 Coaches focus on motivation and athletic skills to help the team win where teachers focus on individual student progress and individual assessments and not always the "team sucess"
#dtk12chat A1 Coaches focus on motivation and athletic skills to help the team win where teachers focus on individual student progress and individual assessments and not always the "team sucess"
Q2: In football, players compete against each other.
In the classroom, students compete against standards.
Does the difference matter?
What can be gleaned from either approach? #dtk12chat
#dtk12chat A1 Coaches focus on motivation and athletic skills to help the team win where teachers focus on individual student progress and individual assessments and not always the "team sucess"
Q2: In football, players compete against each other.
In the classroom, students compete against standards.
Does the difference matter?
What can be gleaned from either approach? #dtk12chat
A2 I'd argue they're not competing against standards. Standards help them know if they're performing well. If they are competing, it's against others who might be exceeding the standards and blowing by them. I understand the ?'s intent, but not it's execution. #dtk12chat
A2 Knowing your "opponent" is important in both scenarios. Tailoring strategies to fit the standard/team that you're going up against. You can even learn from the first round and reprep for the rematch #dtk12chat
There is a movement here to do away with grades and use strength based evaluations in the form of I can statements and student selected evidence. #dtk12chat
Interesting thought. There is a disconnect with personalized learning/ authentic learning, individual grades and the authentic risk of a real life group effort.
I hear you. Maybe replace "standards" with "tests of knowledge?" Not sure if that helps, but you're right, they're competing against something else - themselves, the assessments... #dtk12chat
A2 I think in football the competition is tangible, a standard is not tangible so they don’t matter to students. They they grades over standards #dtk12chat
Q2: In football, players compete against each other.
In the classroom, students compete against standards.
Does the difference matter?
What can be gleaned from either approach? #dtk12chat
Interesting thought. There is a disconnect with personalized learning/ authentic learning, individual grades and the authentic risk of a real life group effort.
Q2: In football, players compete against each other.
In the classroom, students compete against standards.
Does the difference matter?
What can be gleaned from either approach? #dtk12chat
Take away grades, use learning targets and the language of the standards. Have Ss justify how they hit or miss the targets and set goals for improvement..then conf. with them and listen to how they'll own the learning. #dtk12chat
It depends. That phrasing has cultural and developmental pyschology boundaries of what that means. For examples, in traditional Inuit culture children are seen as reincarnated adults who are discovering answers. #dtk12chat
#dtk12chat Q2 As humans competing against each other is more powerful than competing against standards. Students typically compere their grades to each other not to the standards. Their standards are based on the success of their peers and keeping up with them.
A3 I made an app for that! Flash Feedback (https://t.co/ebGfv5MJae) is a rapid peer review tool. Ss get immediate feedback and learn by giving feedback. Teacher can see all the data in one 20-30min session and redirect "play" towards the goal. #dtk12chat
To what extent is rank ordering, categorizing, and implying that a dynamic system is a linear one (a mathematical impossibility) not "dehumanizing." I'm not saying it's not, I'd just like to use my expanded bandwith on new Twitter to understand how. #dtk12chat
I agree the writing process, or research process too, reflect an iterative model that could be applied elsewhere in the curriculum #dtk12chat These processes are somewhat universal while also quite nuanced - love it
#dtk12chat A3 Immediate feedback provides students the opportunity to make changes and improve before it's final. That "halftime break" allows students time to take a break and come back rejuvenated. We use brain breaks and movement breaks my elementary school to refocus.
Oh it sounds isn't you. It is a justification that I have seen before. My comment reflects a more general view and memeology as pedagogy. I kick square tires #dtk12chat
To what extent is rank ordering, categorizing, and implying that a dynamic system is a linear one (a mathematical impossibility) not "dehumanizing." I'm not saying it's not, I'd just like to use my expanded bandwith on new Twitter to understand how. #dtk12chat
They are. All humans, driven by a human brain, are chaotic (in the sense of the science of chaos) systems, butterfly effects in the flesh. Is it any wonder why the same approaches have such immense impacts on one child and next to none on another? #dtk12chat
A3 cont. I also find that students getting to see each others work in draft form, give feedback, then revise is huge. Its the same on the field - you analyze your performance and evaluate others, more informative than just looking at yourself. #dtk12chat
Will Richardson just published (behind their new "pay for it" window) a great article about how we don't really know much, and how we need to learn how to exist in pools of uncertainty and still move forward. W/design we do so by focusing on the user in front of us. #dtk12chat
Well, Western culture is individualistic and not collectivist. Personalized learning will likely use more AI, algorithms and more granular data (including syntactical tasks) to rank, compare, score even more. #dtk12chat
I constantly move between all of everything all the time, and feedback-draft-evaulation-conversation-reflection-performance is a dance that will never get old. #dtk12chat
Data is not dehumanizing. It is what we do with data that can be problematic #dtk12chat. Fitbit uses data. Your doctor uses data. Data in itself is not dehumanizing but another way to understand the world #dtk12chat (ps I am NOT a math person)
"learning is uncomfortable" Hmm... I'm not sure I'd use that word as the brain literally reacts with hits of dopamine when new learning is achieved. I like to label myself a "problematizer" in the classroom. I meddle with what Ss think they know. #dtk12chat
Time went so fast! I think there's a lot of depth considering possibilities to blend sports and academics. I had so many questions and you gave me SO many more! Y'all will have to let me know if this topic is a "dead horse" or "to be continued." haha #dtk12chat
