#alsci Archive
Wednesday February 24, 2016
9:00 PM EST
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to tonight’s
#ALsci
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#ALsci
in your tweets!
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to tonight’s
#ALsci
. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include
#ALsci
in your tweets!
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:01 PM EST
Consider logging into
https://t.co/0WdnILO0RN
w/Twitter account during
#ALsci
chat. I will use
@participatelrn
to archive chat as well!
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:01 PM EST
#ALsci
pumped for some great discussion
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:01 PM EST
my tweets this hour are dedicated to learning with my fellow science peeps
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:01 PM EST
@hembreeg
Welcome! Glad to have you here tonight.
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:01 PM EST
@hembreeg
welcome Gus!!!
#alsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:02 PM EST
Jennifer Brown, 2016 Alabama Teacher of the Year - Hello science peeps!
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:02 PM EST
Hi friends!!!
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:03 PM EST
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name, what you do, and where you’re from!
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:03 PM EST
Good evening
#ALsci
. I am Amy from AL Math, Science, and Tech Initiative. Co-moderator of tonight's chat.
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:03 PM EST
.
@amykfmurphy
I"m finally using tweet deck
#alsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:04 PM EST
#alsci
https://t.co/nJ7p5x63Ab
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:03 PM EST
Mary Busbee from St Clair County High school...all things life science :)
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:04 PM EST
Marla Hines, physical science at Vestavia Hills High- learner EVERY DAY!
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:05 PM EST
We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number (A1, A2, etc) plus
#ALsci
.
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:05 PM EST
Krista Bender, Assistant Principal from Vestavia Hills!
#ALsci
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hi! I'm Heather Taylor at Chelsea HS. I teach AP/honors/general chemistry
#ALSci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:05 PM EST
@KristaMBender
Welcome! Thanks for being here!
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1 is coming up...
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome Heather!! So glad you're here.
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hey
@mstaylorscience
! Great to "see" you tonight on
#ALsci
!
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hi Krista!!
#alsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:06 PM EST
Excited to talk about assessments tonight! I've missed seeing and talking to all of you
#exceptionAL
science teachers.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1: What does the term “assessment” mean to you?
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1 some way to know what my Ss know...what are they thinking?
#alsci
https://t.co/KDejABBhcE
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1: What does the term “assessment” mean to you?
#ALsci
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: anything that gives me information about my students that I can use to figure out our next steps
#alsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1) evaluating student understanding
#ALsci
https://t.co/OaidzWMETb
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1: What does the term “assessment” mean to you?
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1
#ALsci
any way to check students' understanding
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:09 PM EST
#ALSci
A1 Comparing student knowledge and ability to a standard
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:10 PM EST
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:10 PM EST
that's really hard to remember...the
#alsci
!!
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:12 PM EST
wanna join the
#alsci
chat? just starting!!
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Assessments can also be an opportunity for us to determine if our instruction meets the needs of Ss.
#ALSci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:13 PM EST
Here comes Q2…
#ALsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:13 PM EST
We don't use them for this as much as we should! Great point
#ALsci
https://t.co/I1dAKRBZNr
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Assessments can also be an opportunity for us to determine if our instruction meets the needs of Ss.
#ALSci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:13 PM EST
So true. We should use it to inform instruction as we go, not wait until the end of a lesson/nine weeks/unit
#ALsci
https://t.co/9OCX3AUwWs
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Assessments can also be an opportunity for us to determine if our instruction meets the needs of Ss.
#ALSci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: How do you currently assess students in your classroom or school?
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
This takes lots of reflection and practice!
#alsci
https://t.co/eYq1ofgcFU
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:13 PM EST
So true. We should use it to inform instruction as we go, not wait until the end of a lesson/nine weeks/unit
#ALsci
https://t.co/9OCX3AUwWs
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Assessments can also be an opportunity for us to determine if our instruction meets the needs of Ss.
#ALSci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2) Any way I can - listening, writing, speaking, iMovie…the sky is the limit for assessments!
#ALsci
https://t.co/9rwcdyrXoE
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: How do you currently assess students in your classroom or school?
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2 LOTS of talking, writing, drawing models
#alsci
https://t.co/yx0laTuor9
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: How do you currently assess students in your classroom or school?
#ALsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
oops left off
#ALsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
#ALsci
A2 I use multiple methods: science journals, Plickers, etc.
https://t.co/pWyVXl9tJf
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: How do you currently assess students in your classroom or school?
#ALsci
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
#ALSci
A2 P&P Summative are given; I'm doing more POGIL and just wrapped up my first
#argumentdriveninquiry
today
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2
#ALsci
Don't have a classroom of my own, but encourage Ts I work with to do more informal assessment along the way.
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2)
https://t.co/IcXAhuWrFj
, interactive group discussion, lab write-up, independent practice
#ALsci
https://t.co/9rwcdyrXoE
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:14 PM EST
Q2: How do you currently assess students in your classroom or school?
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
#ALsci
good question!
https://t.co/vaxnhgKkrI
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
at what point do we ask our student to articulate what they don't know.
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
most effective for me- EAVESDROPPING!!! I really know what they know when I listen to them struggle!
#alsci
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: Our Ts use a variety of assessments, both formative and summative. They are ongoing and analyzed often.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
#ALsci
https://t.co/C62DmrU1Y1
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
while working chem or physics problems when they get stuck they have to write in detail what is keeping them from solving ir
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
it
#alsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:18 PM EST
great question. should do it daily, but don't
#ALsci
https://t.co/3iOxffwf0r
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
at what point do we ask our student to articulate what they don't know.
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:18 PM EST
I agree! We should make adjustments sooner, rather than later.
#ALsci
https://t.co/YdTKgFLOtX
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2
#ALsci
Don't have a classroom of my own, but encourage Ts I work with to do more informal assessment along the way.
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: just discovered
https://t.co/Vfvpwmf4MX
it is pretty cool to identify what students get tripped up on based on research
#alsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:19 PM EST
@jbrownaps
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
#alsci
but isn't that we are there to do find out what they don't know
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: using learning targets to get students to assess themselves continusouly
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:19 PM EST
This is hard for most secondary teachers. I think we could learn a lot from you & your ES peeps!
@KristaMBender
#ALsci
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:20 PM EST
I think this should be encouraged everyday. Ss may not do it, but should feel safe to do so.
#ALsci
https://t.co/zX6zYlH4iH
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
at what point do we ask our student to articulate what they don't know.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q3 is on the way…
#ALsci
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: no surprise-
@CTSKeeley
probes to assess misconceptions at any point of the learning cycle
#alsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:20 PM EST
@MarlaRHines
Yes!! I've got to move this way
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q3: How have your ideas about assessing student learning changed as you’ve learned more about the new
#ALsci
standards?
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
I think sometimes Ss don't know what they don't know
#alsci
https://t.co/asRddvX2Je
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:20 PM EST
I think this should be encouraged everyday. Ss may not do it, but should feel safe to do so.
#ALsci
https://t.co/zX6zYlH4iH
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
at what point do we ask our student to articulate what they don't know.
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3) Really question why I ever gave long, multiple-choice tests.
#ALsci
https://t.co/oAkcUP2nr4
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q3: How have your ideas about assessing student learning changed as you’ve learned more about the new
#ALsci
standards?
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
Something we need to do more of. Goes 2
@hembreeg
's comment about helping Ss figure out what they don't know.
#ALsci
https://t.co/iA3QO6iDyW
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: using learning targets to get students to assess themselves continusouly
#alsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
#ALsci
A3 science INQUIRY
https://t.co/XjbJNUhQMb
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q3: How have your ideas about assessing student learning changed as you’ve learned more about the new
#ALsci
standards?
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: trying to find better ways to assess practices and CCC. But, yet still have lots to learn about assessing content too.
#alsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
@MarlaRHines
@amykfmurphy
OMG I love
https://t.co/71VQkCuyf0
I use it all the time the the elicit questions are great
#alsci
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
Absolutely! This is one of the most effective ways to learn more about our Ss! Great point!
#ALsci
https://t.co/JrDOoFnjeG
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:17 PM EST
most effective for me- EAVESDROPPING!!! I really know what they know when I listen to them struggle!
#alsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
#ALsci
Yes! We must address misconceptions!
https://t.co/Y1s9PxCnS8
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
I think sometimes Ss don't know what they don't know
#alsci
https://t.co/asRddvX2Je
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:20 PM EST
I think this should be encouraged everyday. Ss may not do it, but should feel safe to do so.
#ALsci
https://t.co/zX6zYlH4iH
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:15 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@KristaMBender
at what point do we ask our student to articulate what they don't know.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
.
@TinaCMcKenzie
can you elaborate on that?
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:23 PM EST
YES!!
#ALsci
https://t.co/aZsZTi5lh7
fergmorgan
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
Assessment should inform student and teacher next steps rather than marking the end of instruction.
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3 Made me more purposeful. More conscious of assessing and CHANGING my instruction.
#alsci
https://t.co/wVBrrZmItN
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q3: How have your ideas about assessing student learning changed as you’ve learned more about the new
#ALsci
standards?
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: for 2 days, my students are doing claim, evidence, reasoning as a group for summ. assessment- new, applications of content
#alsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
#alsci
Jim Minstrel the developer is awesome
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3
#ALsci
Important for assessments to align to instruction. If Ss are doing SEPs, those should be assessed. Hard to do on m/c tests.
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
#alsci
I can help with using
https://t.co/71VQkCuyf0
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
#ALSci
A3 Finding ways to get my students to think more critically with a higher DOK
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
#ALsci
Yes ma'am -we have to give Ss time to explore and investigate standards so that they form their own questios
https://t.co/qEnh2BjfUL
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
.
@TinaCMcKenzie
can you elaborate on that?
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
@TinaCMcKenzie
Welcome to chat, Tina!!
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
He was at the
@ALSciTeachers
conference last week and I attended his session. Loved his passion!
#ALsci
https://t.co/SccgheU31H
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
#alsci
Jim Minstrel the developer is awesome
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Assessing during the process is more important than an assessment at the end. Recalling facts at the end is not the goal.
#ALsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
#alsci
I haven't used m/c test in years
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:26 PM EST
I like the term "purposeful". We've got to be more purposeful in everything we do in our
#ALsci
classrooms!
https://t.co/UZYRe4y5QE
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3 Made me more purposeful. More conscious of assessing and CHANGING my instruction.
#alsci
https://t.co/wVBrrZmItN
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q3: How have your ideas about assessing student learning changed as you’ve learned more about the new
#ALsci
standards?
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
Here comes Q4...
#ALsci
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
Excellent reminder! Learning is ongoing.
#ALsci
https://t.co/oIo0s4ejL8
fergmorgan
Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
Assessment should inform student and teacher next steps rather than marking the end of instruction.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
#awesomesauce
#ALsci
https://t.co/ammyxQdqpT
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: for 2 days, my students are doing claim, evidence, reasoning as a group for summ. assessment- new, applications of content
#alsci
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
I'm slightly obsessed with him now. Expressed my sadness to him that he isn't on twitter.
#alsci
https://t.co/0oTUyZYcsQ
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:24 PM EST
#alsci
Jim Minstrel the developer is awesome
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@busbee_mary
#alsci
it's just making the Ss think and that is just science. I like covering less and getting deeper
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
@hembreeg
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
What do you do that doesn't leave you grading for hours on end?
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:27 PM EST
PREACH!! Gotta get Ts to come around to this POV
#alsci
https://t.co/SDhV4U2K8w
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Assessing during the process is more important than an assessment at the end. Recalling facts at the end is not the goal.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q4: What are some ways you could elicit observable evidence of students using all 3 dimensions of the new
#ALsci
standards?
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:28 PM EST
How do we get other Ts and our Ss (and their Ps) to see that assessment isn't just about a grade at the end?
#ALsci
https://t.co/STSDhkffgA
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Assessing during the process is more important than an assessment at the end. Recalling facts at the end is not the goal.
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:29 PM EST
A4 I will sit here and soak up the brilliance to come
#alsci
https://t.co/qghpnOD4E8
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:28 PM EST
Q4: What are some ways you could elicit observable evidence of students using all 3 dimensions of the new
#ALsci
standards?
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
#ALsci
Have student to engage in the Es/IA model by ScienceScopes
https://t.co/5ZQHgHePd1
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:28 PM EST
How do we get other Ts and our Ss (and their Ps) to see that assessment isn't just about a grade at the end?
#ALsci
https://t.co/STSDhkffgA
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Assessing during the process is more important than an assessment at the end. Recalling facts at the end is not the goal.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@hembreeg
@mstaylorscience
I like whiteboarding (or something similar) to make learning visible. Informal but informational.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
#ALsci
https://t.co/PUsnl7P2Se
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:29 PM EST
Assessment: Did the Ss learn it? If not, what do I need to do now? If yes, let's build on it:)
https://t.co/Jqc3P22bS7
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@jbrownaps
@amykfmurphy
#alsci
that is harder than teaching cos. It is a paradigm shift that won't come easy
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@hembreeg
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
Any whiteboarding resources you'd suggest? I'm just embracing it.
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
It all starts with the conversations we have. Assessments should be tools to communicate progress to Ss and Ps.
#ALsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:31 PM EST
@busbee_mary
@amykfmurphy
Tippers nuff said
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:32 PM EST
The 5Es + I/A model is also in the new
#ALsci
course of study front matter.
https://t.co/9rmWsOihi7
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
#ALsci
Have student to engage in the Es/IA model by ScienceScopes
https://t.co/5ZQHgHePd1
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:28 PM EST
How do we get other Ts and our Ss (and their Ps) to see that assessment isn't just about a grade at the end?
#ALsci
https://t.co/STSDhkffgA
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Assessing during the process is more important than an assessment at the end. Recalling facts at the end is not the goal.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
@mstaylorscience
@hembreeg
Use the claim/evidence/reasoning framework as often as possible for labs.
#ALsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
Love the layout of StemScopes…wish they had 9-12 ready for
#ALsci
COS
@STEMscopes
https://t.co/vvKgpAQv0v
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:32 PM EST
The 5Es + I/A model is also in the new
#ALsci
course of study front matter.
https://t.co/9rmWsOihi7
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
#ALsci
Have student to engage in the Es/IA model by ScienceScopes
https://t.co/5ZQHgHePd1
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:28 PM EST
How do we get other Ts and our Ss (and their Ps) to see that assessment isn't just about a grade at the end?
#ALsci
https://t.co/STSDhkffgA
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Assessing during the process is more important than an assessment at the end. Recalling facts at the end is not the goal.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
Any
#ALsci
folks have suggestions for
@mstaylorscience
?
https://t.co/Yxhcl1Jp9U
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@hembreeg
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
Any whiteboarding resources you'd suggest? I'm just embracing it.
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 For me, the content and SEPs are easier to assess...I'm stuck on the CCCs...or how to assess them
#alsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
#alsci
These standards require a great deal of planning and reflecting! Not an easy job!
https://t.co/lwLVmeIwzX
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@jbrownaps
@amykfmurphy
#alsci
that is harder than teaching cos. It is a paradigm shift that won't come easy
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:34 PM EST
True. We also need to make sure our school and district leaders understand this.
#ALsci
https://t.co/Uu26I5c98a
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
It all starts with the conversations we have. Assessments should be tools to communicate progress to Ss and Ps.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:34 PM EST
Q5 is coming up...
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
How do you/could you provide feedback to students during the course of instruction after you gather evidence of their 3D learning?
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I truly believe in peer pressure...in a positive way!
#alsci
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
ditto
#alsci
https://t.co/wTy7EspA6q
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 For me, the content and SEPs are easier to assess...I'm stuck on the CCCs...or how to assess them
#alsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
Effectively assessing the crosscutting concepts will come with time, friend. Not to worry.
#ALsci
https://t.co/VLWm6Tad4a
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 For me, the content and SEPs are easier to assess...I'm stuck on the CCCs...or how to assess them
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
Haven't come up w/any good ways to assess CCCs either. Must make them explicit for Ss during instruction.
#ALsci
https://t.co/nmrlHvw26X
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 For me, the content and SEPs are easier to assess...I'm stuck on the CCCs...or how to assess them
#alsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:36 PM EST
#alsci
Too many Ts don't even understand how to read the standards and what to have the students do to meet them
https://t.co/zEpwb5dNAJ
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:34 PM EST
True. We also need to make sure our school and district leaders understand this.
#ALsci
https://t.co/Uu26I5c98a
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:30 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
It all starts with the conversations we have. Assessments should be tools to communicate progress to Ss and Ps.
#ALsci
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:36 PM EST
@hembreeg
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
I made myself a set. I just have to utilize them more!
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I feel better now!
#alsci
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
my friend, YES!
#alsci
https://t.co/CtaUN8qg7d
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I truly believe in peer pressure...in a positive way!
#alsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
@jbrownaps
@busbee_mary
#alsci
this is challenging but an area we will grow in and soon dominate
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
@mstaylorscience
@hembreeg
In chem, I think Ss explaining observations at "particulate" level on whiteboards would be helpful.
#ALsci
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
#ALSci
A4 I feel like a single assessment isn't going to cut it in most cases.
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
side note, Amy Farrah Fowler, singing
@BonJovi
to a harp while I'm learning on
#alsci
PERFECT!!
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
#alsci
https://t.co/gXy7PwSckW
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:36 PM EST
A5...is it dumb for me to say...talk to them?
https://t.co/yepOXpBUTc
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
This was Q5...forgot to number it!
#ALsci
https://t.co/Ko3GlzAg7a
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
How do you/could you provide feedback to students during the course of instruction after you gather evidence of their 3D learning?
#ALsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
Ts need PD on these new standards!!! ASAP
#ALsci
https://t.co/Gk6gKhpbJQ
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
my friend, YES!
#alsci
https://t.co/CtaUN8qg7d
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I truly believe in peer pressure...in a positive way!
#alsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:39 PM EST
Well said and completely accurate
#alsci
https://t.co/91pFOGSgLa
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
#ALSci
A4 I feel like a single assessment isn't going to cut it in most cases.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:39 PM EST
@TinaCMcKenzie
we are doing this in CCRS training but not all districts getting it turned around to their Ts. :(
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:39 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I like it when you're human
#alsci
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:40 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
#alsci
we have days during each section where we just talk as a class to develop a class idea and discuss what we are doing
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:41 PM EST
Here comes Q6…
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:41 PM EST
We've also got to change the way PD is presented. Can't be a "drive by" "sit and get". Needs to be ongoing!
#ALsci
https://t.co/texbO5eysG
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
Ts need PD on these new standards!!! ASAP
#ALsci
https://t.co/Gk6gKhpbJQ
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
my friend, YES!
#alsci
https://t.co/CtaUN8qg7d
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I truly believe in peer pressure...in a positive way!
#alsci
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:41 PM EST
#ALSci
A5 simply talking to them is powerful! I experienced this doing an ADI activity this past week. Small group = success
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5
#ALsci
giving Ss feedback along the way is crucial. That way they have a chance to learn what they don't know!
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6: What artifacts of student learning do you expect to generated in your classroom as you implement the new
#ALsci
standards?
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
#ALsci
another problem is laying a foundation for these standards in K-3 ...no time for anything but R & M :(
https://t.co/ulFNMYtW8u
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:39 PM EST
@TinaCMcKenzie
we are doing this in CCRS training but not all districts getting it turned around to their Ts. :(
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
This makes me sooooo happy! :)
@ADI_ScienceTeam
#ALsci
https://t.co/HYM5LLq5m0
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:41 PM EST
#ALSci
A5 simply talking to them is powerful! I experienced this doing an ADI activity this past week. Small group = success
hembreeg
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
@TinaCMcKenzie
#alsci
the APEX model is exactly what we need in all science
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
Am I missing all the A5s? I don't see any. Is my tweet deck tricking me?
#alsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
I TOTALLY agree!!!
#ALsci
https://t.co/vqsIBkvjbp
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:41 PM EST
We've also got to change the way PD is presented. Can't be a "drive by" "sit and get". Needs to be ongoing!
#ALsci
https://t.co/texbO5eysG
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:38 PM EST
Ts need PD on these new standards!!! ASAP
#ALsci
https://t.co/Gk6gKhpbJQ
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:37 PM EST
my friend, YES!
#alsci
https://t.co/CtaUN8qg7d
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:35 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
I truly believe in peer pressure...in a positive way!
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:43 PM EST
I have heard great things about this from participating physics teachers! I hope it spreads like wildfire!!
@hembreeg
@TinaCMcKenzie
#ALsci
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4 Ss need to be making,writing,and speaking what they learn and what their evidence is
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:43 PM EST
@jhubb546
Hey Josh! Welcome to the convo!
#ALsci
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:43 PM EST
#ALSci
A6 Whiteboards, investigation reports, videos, diagrams
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4 on practical level have them video themselves on their phone what they did what it means and why then share with peers and Ts
#ALsci
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
How we give this feedback is crucial!
#ALsci
https://t.co/ov2cg850np
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5
#ALsci
giving Ss feedback along the way is crucial. That way they have a chance to learn what they don't know!
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
@busbee_mary
I think because I didn't tag it the first time, answers are a little behind.
#ALsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
#ALsci
YES!
https://t.co/BHWny7pard
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4 Ss need to be making,writing,and speaking what they learn and what their evidence is
#ALsci
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
thanks for the welcome
#alsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:45 PM EST
What suggestions do you have for Ts giving feedback to Ss? What are the best ways to do it?
#ALsci
https://t.co/6KBUDomEXO
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
How we give this feedback is crucial!
#ALsci
https://t.co/ov2cg850np
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5
#ALsci
giving Ss feedback along the way is crucial. That way they have a chance to learn what they don't know!
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:45 PM EST
I like this idea!
#stealing
#ALsci
https://t.co/89hcEyGCRV
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4 on practical level have them video themselves on their phone what they did what it means and why then share with peers and Ts
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:45 PM EST
@jhubb546
Hi Josh!
#alsci
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:46 PM EST
A6 more written responses posters showing models with changes in understanding and answers to big questions/ID where CCC SEP show up
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:46 PM EST
Here is
#ALsci
question 6, in case you missed it in my question 5 mixup!
https://t.co/jiQyNXpddO
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6: What artifacts of student learning do you expect to generated in your classroom as you implement the new
#ALsci
standards?
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:46 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
Questioning is a great technique to get Ss thinking critically and own any changes to their learning.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:47 PM EST
A6
#ALsci
we've got to get Ss talking, listening, and writing to incorporate those literacy standards in addition to 3D science standards.
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:47 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
Rubrics are a start.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:48 PM EST
Our last question, Q7, is on the way…
#ALsci
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:48 PM EST
@KristaMBender
@amykfmurphy
early and often! Something I struggle with
#ALsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:48 PM EST
#ALsci
A6 Having Ss to create digital models, animations, presentations, defending positions in arguments
https://t.co/B7WZGboFKQ
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:46 PM EST
Here is
#ALsci
question 6, in case you missed it in my question 5 mixup!
https://t.co/jiQyNXpddO
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6: What artifacts of student learning do you expect to generated in your classroom as you implement the new
#ALsci
standards?
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:48 PM EST
preach it sista
#alsci
https://t.co/YHKibEu48r
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:47 PM EST
A6
#ALsci
we've got to get Ss talking, listening, and writing to incorporate those literacy standards in addition to 3D science standards.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
Rubrics very important as we go from learning targets to assessments to evidence of learning
#backwardsdesign
#ALsci
https://t.co/r7vDqBV2nQ
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:47 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
Rubrics are a start.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q7: What should these artifacts (from Q6) tell you about students understanding of new
#ALsci
standards?
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
@mstaylorscience
@amykfmurphy
hard to start from scratch on rubrics. Do you have any resources or ideas?
#alsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
I agree! a friend of mine says "calm and support" . I think about with my Ss. Must always think relationships
#alsci
https://t.co/VTair2RqPz
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:44 PM EST
How we give this feedback is crucial!
#ALsci
https://t.co/ov2cg850np
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5
#ALsci
giving Ss feedback along the way is crucial. That way they have a chance to learn what they don't know!
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
Comment only grading. If a grade is put in the paper, it seems Ss lose the focus on learning.
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:50 PM EST
I totally agree with this
@KristaMBender
!
#ALsci
https://t.co/j39JeUaRsY
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
Comment only grading. If a grade is put in the paper, it seems Ss lose the focus on learning.
#ALsci
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:50 PM EST
One of my favorite ideas. Grade = learning over. Comment= dialogue begins - Love it!!
#ALsci
https://t.co/LneIJOU36i
KristaMBender
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
@amykfmurphy
Comment only grading. If a grade is put in the paper, it seems Ss lose the focus on learning.
#ALsci
jhubb546
Feb 24 @ 9:51 PM EST
Thanks for letting me jump in
#ALsci
need to get ready for bed early morning bball practice + snow and ice don't mix well for restful sleep
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:51 PM EST
@jhubb546
@amykfmurphy
#ALSci
Look into argument driven inquiry. There is a general rubric for the final product.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:52 PM EST
@jhubb546
@mstaylorscience
I start w/criteria for a good response, then think about what would make it great. That gives 2 levels.
#ALsci
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:52 PM EST
A7 Whether they have applied their knowledge to their own product or model
#ALsci
https://t.co/aaaqN25POG
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q7: What should these artifacts (from Q6) tell you about students understanding of new
#ALsci
standards?
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:52 PM EST
Final
#ALsci
question, in case you missed it!
https://t.co/GjMM7BWzPl
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q7: What should these artifacts (from Q6) tell you about students understanding of new
#ALsci
standards?
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:54 PM EST
A7 should tell me if Ss did-.understand, that is. and how deep. It's not so much the "what" but the "so what"
#alsci
https://t.co/sMm1pVPH51
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q7: What should these artifacts (from Q6) tell you about students understanding of new
#ALsci
standards?
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:55 PM EST
Thanks all for joining
#ALsci
tonight!
mstaylorscience
Feb 24 @ 9:55 PM EST
#ALSci
A7 Can students use/apply the knowledge in a new situation versus regurgitating facts on paper
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:55 PM EST
A7) Should tell us if students understand the concept. Big difference in mastery and memorization.
#ALsci
https://t.co/Ih17LOULht
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q7: What should these artifacts (from Q6) tell you about students understanding of new
#ALsci
standards?
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:56 PM EST
A7
#ALsci
Artifacts should tell me if Ss are ready to build from here or need some intervention/support of some sort.
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:56 PM EST
I'm looking forward to getting back into the classroom and creating some nontraditional assessments with
@MarlaRHines
#ALsci
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:57 PM EST
Our next
#ALsci
chat will be Wednesday, 3/23/16. We will discuss purposeful professional practice.
https://t.co/hZFxz4LtgZ
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:57 PM EST
@jbrownaps
@MarlaRHines
I would love to see more lab practical type assessment. Hard to develop but so informative!
#ALsci
busbee_mary
Feb 24 @ 9:57 PM EST
Had a great time, as usual
#alsci
https://t.co/WQmEXiCCgS
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:55 PM EST
Thanks all for joining
#ALsci
tonight!
jbrownaps
Feb 24 @ 9:57 PM EST
A7) I've got the 5E down...need to work on the IA (Intervention/acceleration)…will be a focus for me next yr.
#ALsci
https://t.co/5pT44LRQzY
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:56 PM EST
A7
#ALsci
Artifacts should tell me if Ss are ready to build from here or need some intervention/support of some sort.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:57 PM EST
Wow! Time flies during
#ALsci
!!
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:58 PM EST
Please continue to use the
#ALsci
hashtag to share anything related to science teaching and learning!
TinaCMcKenzie
Feb 24 @ 9:58 PM EST
You are a nut,
@MarlaRHines
!
#alsci
https://t.co/jfVbULWHbC
MarlaRHines
Feb 24 @ 9:48 PM EST
preach it sista
#alsci
https://t.co/YHKibEu48r
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:47 PM EST
A6
#ALsci
we've got to get Ss talking, listening, and writing to incorporate those literacy standards in addition to 3D science standards.
amykfmurphy
- Moderator
Feb 24 @ 9:59 PM EST
I will share the archive shortly via
@participatelrn
! Resources from tonight’s chat can be found at
https://t.co/0WdnILO0RN
. Search
#ALsci
!