#formativechat Archive
Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.
Monday April 11, 2016
7:00 PM EDT
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awesome! hope you learn a lot from it!
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Welcome to everyone! Please start by introducing yourself!
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Hi all! Sarah from NJ here. Very much looking forward to hearing everyone's answers to Q4 :)
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I'm a first year first grade teacher in the Bay Area, looking for new strategies to improve my teaching!
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I am a third grade teacher in San Jose always looking for new ways to make learning exciting for my students!
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awesome! what part of the bay area? I'm from Marin!
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welcome back Sarah! Me too!
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I teach in South San Jose!
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Randy Taylor from Gwinnett County Georgia. Special Education teacher.
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Hello -I'm Phiona, a HS teacher in Ontario
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you guys are both from the bay area! know each other?
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Hi, Rachelle frm Pittsburgh, Teach Spanish & , almost finished with masters in IT :)
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welcome back Phiona! Did you have spring break yet?
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Hey Randal, first time in ?
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We went through the same credential program, had the same mentor, and are now teaching together
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we had ours in March - now only a distant memory 😊
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Hey Rachelle, just emailed you back :)
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We are going to be using a Q1, A1, Q2, A2.... format
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It's completely cool to tweet multiple times per Q! Just put A (con) to show you are continuing your response!
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Sorry I cannot join. Just walked in the door from a task force meeting & it is my kids time. Look forward to reading later.
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no worries! hope you are well Peter!
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We are going to go ahead and get started with Q1 for !
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Q1: What is cooperative learning?
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Sean from Raleigh, NC here. 5th grade math & science teacher. Formative Fan :-{)
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Cooperative learning is about collaborating and communicating with peers in order to help each other learn and grow together
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Instructional Technologist from Texas. First time in this chat but Tt I work with love Formative.
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A1: Cooperative learning is positively interacting with one's peers while sharing and gaining knowledge from one another
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Agree the world out there is competitive so nice to learn in a positive environment
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A1: I think it's also about providing each other with positive and constructive feedback in order to improve our learning
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A1 working w/others to learn, teach, share in the exper, collab, communicate, helpful for learning
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A1: It is important to ensure that these small groups include students of all ability levels, making social learning easier!
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A1 teams of students work together to help each others learning and understanding of a subject/activity/material
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A1: Learning from others and sharing knowledge while working toward a common goal.
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A1. Working together to collectively source solutions is cooperative learning.
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A1: EVERY Ss in a group must think for themselves+share knowledge w/teammates that is critical to learning +the group success
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A1b Building upon each other's strengths and helping each other strengthen any weaknesses
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Agree! Ss must depend on each other for knowledge so everyone is accountable+no one get's left behind!
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Have to run - surprise guest 😟
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A1 & this learning is great if it involves volunteering with local groups or raising funds for charities
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great idea! Giving students the opportunity to extend their learning beyond the classroom walls!
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agreed! by making Ss responsible for pieces of the puzzle, we discover+address strengths/weaknesses
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Have been doing this more recently, new ways to work in class, Ss are Ts, diff HW, Ss like it
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The rare moments when each makes a unique contribution resulting in a sum impossible without all of its parts
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A1 The rare moments when each makes a unique contribution resulting in a sum impossible without all of its parts
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Side question: how does cooperative learning differ from just group work? general Ss collaboration?
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small group work first 2/3 Ss - then join them together with other groups 6/9
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True positive interdependence! https://t.co/nEQj7M7Yoj
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A1 The rare moments when each makes a unique contribution resulting in a sum impossible without all of its parts
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group work is a means to end. Coop learning is a result of planning/relationships/systems
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definitely! it puts grouping to work!
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Cooperative learning goes beyond just completing a task. We are asking Ss to dig deeper and learn from one another
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sometimes we learn through argument and debate as long as we have respect, thats good
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I'm over in east Windsor, Hightstown High School
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A1 (con): cooperative learning happens when Ss are accountable for own knowledge and group knowledge!
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Q2: How can students benefit from positive interdependence (relying on each other for knowledge)?
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It's a paradigm shift to look to your peers for insight instead of the teacher
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Group work is when Ss work together to complete a task Cooperative learning= when they're sharing and learning from eachother
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right! it empowers Ss because they become the working experts!
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Good definition so looks at the individual’s soft skills development + relationships with others
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agree and accountability here is key!
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. aight, spring break is over. I am back. Alex in LA, tech teacher to k6, minecrafter, bus rider(forgive my typos
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Hey . Thought I would be able to join, but need to get what I am working on checked off being done. Will read later.
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A2 Each has a role, supp each othr, helps build relatshp, empowers them to take ownrshp in learning
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It empowers teacher, too, cos we can stop faking like we know everything
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A2: giving students the opportunity to be "experts" is more powerful than having the teacher talk at them all day
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takes careful planning by Ts so Ss hold eachother accountable+follow through
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it is definitely a shift! My Ss are finally seeing how much they enjoy learning from their peers!
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A2: It can almost be less intimidating and, in some cases, provide a greater incentive to learn from a peer!
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always riding the bus during ! Love it!
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A2 A2 students recognize they have knowledge that others benefit from. Their life experiences become more valuable to share
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2 partners tangling with a Makey Makey today, as I come over to help one says "Ive got it. Let me show you"
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& this is where formative assessment comes in not just from Ts but from their peers
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to me that is more important than circuits
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I think ideally it's less intimidating but when Ss feel they don't have as much to share--intimidating to share
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A2: Ss have the opportunity to build upon their understanding by sharing what they know instead of just asking the T
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I do not use autocorrect either. Trying to spell as I bounce in my seat
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A2: my Ss think-pair-share a lot and many times it builds confidence before sharing whole class
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plus in a wider context Ss are learning from other stakeholders too e.g. employers
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A2: Ss actively learn that what their peers have to say is vital to their own learning, no more "I'm better than you"
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A2: Ss can also begin to build a strong learning community when they look beyond the teacher
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Hi Chris from England teaching &
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Q3: What are some great cooperative learning activities? What makes them great?
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Q3 is now up in !! Feel free to jump in! Great ideas and perspectives being shared right now!
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A3:2 things we did today. Build kn Minecraft, and set up MakeyMakeys super cooperative
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A3 I had Ss each teach a lesson to a partner, come up w/activ, then reverse, Ss lead, have choices
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A3: Oh hey we actually used today to write narrative responses to our building in
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A3: Morning Meeting has helped my Ss learn how to better communicate, positively interact, and trust one another
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A3 class generates research question, breaks into teams to find, compile and curate information
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Q3: morning journals/mingles to share goals, apk, and build community
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can you explain the minecraft activity?
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A2 & this improves their overall communication skills without the fear of formal assessment
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Q3: "silent ball" adapted from PE coach. Ss pass ball silently. catch the ball, participate in dicussion
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Hey what are activities? Sounds like a class I need to take
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Oh awesome! What roles/positions do they have?
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right...coop learning/authentic tasks are inextricable IMO
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Countryside walks, orienteering, camping etc...
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Q3: working together to figure out a new computer app
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a is a lil circuit board for peeps of all ages to make cool stuff
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this seems like a great way to hold all Ss accountable and provide learning environment to listen
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A3 (con) also used & and for Ss to work togthr went well!
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it depends on the activity and the goal we want to accomplish. sometimes mixed is better. other times, not
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Paired reading is very successful! For both new and familiar texts. Ss can write summaries together as well.
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I def get an F in orienteering. Ive used google maps inside a building
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wow your job looks really neat! can you explain how one of those is great for ind. and group accountability?
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interesting! how does paired reading make each student responsible for own learning and helping others?
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A3 can’t get better than for co-operative learning - but I would say this :))
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In we built colonial settlements while discussing negative impacts of colonialism, rethinking via
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what strategies can we use when we do pair Ss heterogeneously?
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cool! How can you make sure Ss are doing their own thinking in an activity like this?
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ind accountability - taking lead of a section of the walk - grp acc siting the tent
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do they work together to build settlements?
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when Ss are paired heterogeneously, they're able to challenge eachother more because their abilities r more alike
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Hey whatever it takes to find the place you are looking for :))
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I ask more questions. When conflicts happen I open to discussion, Idont solve it for them
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I love the metaphor of as working together to setup a tent or building a mine craft settlement!
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A3 (con): Ss can picture walk together, silent read, then share ideas. Ss can have same or different books.
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More powerful if Ss call out other Ss for shortsighted thinking on environment or race
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they joined up into groups. Some had conflicts. We try to unpack that decision making
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when students teach others they're able to solidify learning while the other one understands content in kid talk
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would you consider trying one?
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I can see this working for high-low but how can we make sure low has something meaningful to share as well?
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Q4 is now up in ! What would you do?
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it is definitely something I plan on looking into!
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A4 I reflect on: the authenticity of task, quality of materials, dynamics of group
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A3 all sounds great - realistic tasks to aid amongst the group
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A4 I have a tendency to step in too much when this happens; I'd love to hear others' strategies!
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A4 TBH, I think this can rarely be fixed in the moment. Take it as a formative assessment of teaching. Adapt going forward
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A4 Ask other Ss to explain to me, maybe have roles, randomly assign/have Ss pick, each responsble
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A4: I have team numbers Each member of the team must take a turn when his or her number is called Slowly I remove the numbers
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A4: Since obj. is for Ss to learn from each other, I would put each Ss in another group where they can learn from mix of Ss
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A4: By starting with numbers it helps young Ss, then by slowly removing the numbers they begin to build accountability
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I agree,sometimes higher level Ss can tune out when lower level Ss share. But I like the idea of opinion based Q
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A:4 Ask the others to restate answer in different format ie image/vid/song/poem etc
