#wyoedchat Archive
#wyoedchat is a great way for Wyoming educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Sunday April 10, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
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Welcome to , tonight's topic is If not now, when?
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Welcome to , tonight's topic is If not now, when?
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Welcome, tell us who you are, where you teach, and what you teach.
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Brian Redmond, band director, Rock Springs HS.
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Hi James and others about to join. Wayne-Casper- K-5 P. Energized by a PLC training this week!
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Kam joining from Montana where I teach at Hardin Middle School
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Welcome sir. Glad u r here
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James Kapptie, Dir Of Tech from Wonderful Cody WY Checking in Lake Side from the camper
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We will be using the Q1: A1: format for questions and responses. Let's get started.
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JRakness - Washakie 1 - Curriculum
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My name is Marcy Harton, and I am currently a UW student in the post-bac teacher education program.
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Welcome sir. Glad u r here
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Jenny from Cody, checking in
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Hi, I am Cailie and I am actually in school to become a teacher here at the University of Wyoming.
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Leanna, first grade, Basin
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Rachel, sped T from Cheyenne!
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Welcome. Glad u r here We love UW words of wisdom
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Hi! Dawn from Gillette, business ed, jr. high
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We love when young educators join the fun! Welcome!
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Q1: Think back to something you wished was different when u were in school, what is it?
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I'm Jamie Walker! A student at UW pursuing a degree in secondary math education.
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A1 Ability to more easily connect with the world would've made a huge difference for me in 1990
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Gonna gang as long as I can but the Twitter app is being difficult tonight..... Grrrrrrr!
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Welcome...stil by the lake am i
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A1: I know now the ELLs were shorted - so glad that's different today!
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A1: Geez! Long time ago! :) Actually liked school.
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Carole, Hay Springs, NE,k12 school librarian and k6 tech
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a1) that was a different century, you expect me to remember. :) It was all one size fits all and sit and get.
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A1. I wanted teachers to be able to answer...Why do I need to know this.
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A1: I wish that we learned more about 'real world' things like how to pay taxes or how to invest money in high school.
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A1.1 Graduated hs in 1981. Computer was the size of a closet and we dialed into it via rotary phone! Ha!
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Welcome. Glad u r here Speak loudly
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A1- when I was in school there was not much emphasis on character education, wish that had been different
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A1 I always finished work easily & quickly then would just get more & more of the same vs differentiated/more challenging option
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Can somebody please RT Q1?
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A1: you either got it - or you didn't. Little effort, if any, to remediate.
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A1) I wish I had more opportunities to pursue the courses I was interested in. More variety, flexibility.
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A1 John, Principal, Riverton High. I wanted Ts to know that learning is more important than passing. Hope I live that now.
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My son is there now and he agrees. But he love all the opps he has as a Trojan!
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I also wish there had been more inclusion. I see how all kids benefit from it. Love that my kids have diverse exp.
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Q1: Think back to something you wished was different when u were in school, what is it?
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Easy to forget sometimes, but very true!
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A2: Hopefully, we don't! Schools do get this I think. Elem teachers add SPARK breaks in class as well.
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A1: I wanted my teachers to be able to put into perspective why we had to learn what we were learning.
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A2: I never took recess away from Ss. Just makes the rest of the day harder. They need time to run and play.
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a1 liked school, but got bored, way TOO much writing that was busy work, copy sent out of the text, etc no electronics,
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Q3: Can teachers own some deisgned exercise time with students?
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A1: Little to no engagement, can't remember hardly anything from JH years, teachers uninterested in engaging. HS a little better.
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A2- from what I have been reading our schools with 3 recesses are doing pretty well. Lots of schools going to just one. 😓
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A2) Not sure why recess gets cut. My son gets 1 recess in the afternoon and a few minutes at lunch. Needs more time IMO.
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Tyler casper wy k-5 principal.
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Ted from Cody - Elem. IF. Glad to be here.
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I'm behind again, none of the Qs are showing in my feed. :( same as last week
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Truly...At all levels its needed....SOunds like lead into a Q :)
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A3 google app MOVE IT!! is so fun and easy reminder to get up move and have fun
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A2) because sometimes we place too much emphasis on a number and forget we teach human beings. Sad!
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A2: I'm not sure. I think it is important that kids get time to run around and exercise each day!
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Same here... No questions
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Chris Brown, Tech Dir from Fremont #1. Twitter client a little wonky.
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Do you use Tweetdeck, my friend?
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Q3 I have seen some brain break activities that have ben excellent in ele schools. Get up and move while learning something new
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A3: Designed exercise time? Maybe not. Play breaks or movement/energy time? Yes.
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Please RT Q so twitter wonkiness is alleviated I hope
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A3: I think Ts can do brain breaks or do other things to get Ss up and moving.
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A3) Yes...Dave Hardesty had a great program when he was in Gillette, So did
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Hi I'm Greg. A sleepy parent in Buffalo, WY
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Q3: Can teachers own some deisgned exercise time with students? https://t.co/Ss767XQ2Re
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Q3: Can teachers own some deisgned exercise time with students?
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a3) active movement put into a lesson. :) Brain breaks can be good too.
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A3. Teachers need activity to....combine and be healthy together... Walking lesson... etc Dont let other dictate
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Of course she did. She is a rock star! https://t.co/tWy3a58Pqg
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A3) Yes...Dave Hardesty had a great program when he was in Gillette, So did
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A3: If my 2-3 graders seem to be distracted, we take a few minutes to do yoga to regroup, and it seems to help.
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Thanks to I got to see q3
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A3 I have had kids crest exercises and we video tape to use later.
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A3) I think it is possible to get exercise time, if the willpower is there. Often, curricular demands push that out of the way.
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Yoga is so good for the brain. I used to practice need to again. https://t.co/4RWxRvGiwm
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A3: If my 2-3 graders seem to be distracted, we take a few minutes to do yoga to regroup, and it seems to help.
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Q4: Is homework valuable?
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A3 - I've seen organized movement such as Go Noodle in classrooms to a brain break and snack to get everyone going again.
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A3) ss rotated on exercise bikes and every 20 minutes had a movement break...movement all day
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A4- not in my opinion, 10 years in as an educator and am still trying to figure out the relevance of homework.
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a4) I know the research but I think a bit can have benefit. Kids live busy lives. TOO much is not good.
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I have always been interested in the schools that incorporate yoga, meditation, etc. in the day. Would love to try.
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A4: Choice Reading for 20-30 min. per day is good homework. I try to make assignments that can be completed during class.
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A4... HOmework, the great un-equalizer for kids... NO
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A4: low effect size - but depends on type, age, and purpose. W kids in poverty this is a tough struggle.
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A4: Yes, but it should never be sent home for students to do on their own unless you feel that you've explained it well enough.
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A4 The great debate! If Ss see value, they will do it & learn. Otherwise you're grading the Ps & their resources.
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I feel like I am playing jeopardy.
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That is a nice little bit. https://t.co/EWTmuccRL4
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A4: Choice Reading for 20-30 min. per day is good homework. I try to make assignments that can be completed during class.
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q4 depends, 6 career/tech sts have keyboarding homewk, occ homewk that needs parent input
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Marcia Tate has great examps of how to incorporate physical activities into curriculum like physical movements for spelling etc.
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A4) Not in the traditional sense. But with some creative work it can have its uses.
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A4: I believe homework is very valuable, for me the more exposure to a subject the better I will understand it.
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Might be is dangerous tonight
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A4: so why do we still assign hw? Because we always have?
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I see the struggle w/ kids in poverty every day. Many have the adult responsibilities at home, so no time for homework.
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When it is something they want to do, it does not even seem like homework.
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A4) At HS level, I see every teacher assigning HW to kids = overwhelming. Ts can often forget that Ss have many teachers,demands.
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A4 Value should be placed on the structure of the . Is it rote busywork or is it applied and meaningful?
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Q4 "is homework valuable" wanna answer that one
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The truth has been spoken in my opinion
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A4 Level the playing field - send books home as "homework." ,
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Q5: Why does school have to start so early....we know its not whats best for students?
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A4 Not playing fairly for those students who don't get the help they need when they go home to do their homework.
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A5- because schools have always started early, as a parent of a current first grader I know how hard those early mornings are
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True! If they are on block it can be even more! The sense to cover it all in a semester.
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My guess - not enough time in class to make it through everything we're expected to, so work time gets turned to HW.
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A4. Homework in lower grades should be short. I consider it communication to parents of what we are learning.
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That's when you have to say, "Don't try this at home, kids!" heheh
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Trying to sucker me in huh.
Family time is valuable
Play is shown by research to be valuable
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https://t.co/LXzfP4K1WU
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Q4 "is homework valuable" wanna answer that one
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A5 Because thats the way it has always been....uggg.. lets talk change in the next Q
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Sleep is shown to be valuable
Exercise is shown to be valuable
Being well balanced is valuable
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Ug... block. 140 chars aren't enough for me to share my dislike of the block.
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A5: As a morning person I like early, but know not everyone is morning person. Nice in college when you can pick best times 4 U.
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A4: What percentage of work should a CHILD do compared to how much adults work?
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q5 with afterschool act our hs sts are at school till 8:00 pm as it is -later start, later end
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A5) speaking a parent,I would love to see HS later and EL earlier. My children were always up. Now my 9th grader can sleep long T
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A5: Starting early is a problem. But parent schedules, activities, and family time make late starts tough.
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A4: Homework is shown to cause severe stress and fighting in families. Is that worth it?
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A4 - Gary Johnson talked to out staff & parents about parents reading with kids nightly to LOVE reading. We teach them how!
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Q5: Why does school have to start so early....we know its not whats best for students? https://t.co/DN6jpikq9J
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Q5: Why does school have to start so early....we know its not whats best for students?
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A5 As long as we keep industrial revolution model & try [in vain] to align w/trad'l business scheds, we'll continue to ask this ?
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A4: Homework discriminates against kids whose parents did not go to college. Should we design school that way?
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A5 We are having that talk now. Will start at 8. Ss were on committee. Desire to do activities & get home...for homework
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100% of the dishes! (j/k)
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GREAT QUESTION! Can we start asking that question for MORE things. Shouldn't that be our focus?! THE KIDS THE KIDS
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Q6: How can you change that? (Q 5 answer) Trick Q...answer carefully.
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When you give choice they do love to read. Reading logs and AR squash that.
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A5) one of those "It's what we've always done" things back to farming days. Belief that they early bird gets the worm. Not me :)
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A5) For some, it works. Was it supposed to get kids ready for "real life"? Would love to see 9-5 or 10-6 school.
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As a T the problem was mile wide, inch deep. Have to change that before we talk HW. Decide what's most important 1st
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE block schedule. If you have actively involved kids it's great! Note taking and sitting.. not so much
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Research says HW in lower grades doesn't help. So why even keep it short.
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A5: I would love for school to start later, but unfortunately that leaves no time for other activities: only school all day.
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My daughter just got a puppy. She's getting up early everyday! heheh
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A6. Teachers could do activity based thing with student to start day. Be example...let them prepare forlearning
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A6 Academies and blocks with staggered scheduling across districts is a start. Not an easy shift & requires risk taking.
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q6) The ? has me perplexed. Am I supposed to answer how I can change Q5 answer? Sorry below basic on this one.
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Does anyone think they are giving busywork? But LOTS of it goes home....
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My HS TRIED to coordinate teachers for work. It's nearly impossible. Another good reason to give up HW. https://t.co/732it3knVf
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A4) At HS level, I see every teacher assigning HW to kids = overwhelming. Ts can often forget that Ss have many teachers,demands.
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Wanting to do something that is not assigned is the ultimate compliment for my lesson
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I also LOVE block schedule. We are on it now, but moving away in 2017. :( https://t.co/pqXoADDk86
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE block schedule. If you have actively involved kids it's great! Note taking and sitting.. not so much
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I see it, my experience, band for 90 mins is too much-kids can't go as hard as I want for that long.
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A6). We start at 8:50. Parents still bring them at 7:45. HAVE to adjust a cultural way of living. Siesta anyone?
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PLUS we give kids work to do on WEEKENDS every weekend and BREAKS?! What the heck! https://t.co/pyIAF0wWNh
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I see it, my experience, band for 90 mins is too much-kids can't go as hard as I want for that long.
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A6 Individualize our school tied to college &/or career. We have frosh academy & talking senior academy. Make sch match future
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Q6: How can you change that? (Q 5 answer) Trick Q...answer carefully. https://t.co/WaTAXu3i4i
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Q6: How can you change that? (Q 5 answer) Trick Q...answer carefully.
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They are penalized and that is not right. Equity is not negotiable. https://t.co/CcfGkxYcIl
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we have too many SS who do not have the support @ home to help with homework. Too often they are penalized. Is this fair?
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In a perfect world, no. But I've encountered a few who reluctantly admit to falling back on simple worksheets .
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, Wish I had created more, but loved when there was no HW, kids came "want to know what I did last night?" https://t.co/uW2FVo5qXC
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Wanting to do something that is not assigned is the ultimate compliment for my lesson
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We should still play when we are 40
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Q7: When is lecture best option?
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Exactly. Let's realize it is a new age. What is a remnant of the industrial revolution, rethink! https://t.co/DGRftsF3Hr
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industrial model of education. Reflects bygone era and a society that doesn't exist anymore
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True - but I see a lot of hw completed(?) in hallways before class. There is a place for hw, if we are purposeful.
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A6) I proposed a more flexible schedule last year -allowing students to develop more personalized schedule. Didn't happen yet. :)
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. Yup! Agreed. I guarantee I made kids cry when they did math homework. I feel bad. Happy I ditched HW.
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my 10th & 12th gr. are always overwhelmed with hw. Much not taught 1st either.
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A7: With my young kids, lecture ONLY works as a very brief intro, then followed by activity.
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Past 40 though? That's when it's time to get down to business!
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because they have a job. I have flexibility, but hard to tell my T to be there by 8 & not model it. My kid-7:40 too
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Actually I agree with that. Giving Ss responsibilities ACTUALLY teaches responsibility. HW does NOT. https://t.co/KnuVx7ZbkW
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100% of the dishes! (j/k)
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A7: I've also found that in high school literature classes, lecture doesn't work as well as discussion. Treat them like adults.
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There are so many ways our S can cheat to get the grade & we need to focus on deepening learning = more time
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This is true. Even if we must keep there should be free weekends & no breaks!
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A6 sports practices getting pushed into the evening can be an issue. Football with no lights in October doesn't work well
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A7- mini lessons (15-20min) followed by hands on practice and peer collaboration is the only way to go for little learners!
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Agreed - in certain instances. Be purposeful, focusing on skill development, not busywork.
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Right! It might be a place to start retaking the hill!
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A7: SHORT lecture to demonstrate new material, then get out of the way and let Ss learn.
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A7 Keynote address for an audience of 500+?
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A7 when first introduced....(what are you talking about?)
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Yes. (and I didn't want to come off as all whip-snappin' curmudgeon-y).
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Say NO. You're the parent. It is your house. Do not sacrifice one minute of valuable family time. https://t.co/hW3dFJGNHf
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my 10th & 12th gr. are always overwhelmed with hw. Much not taught 1st either.
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Prioritize - tough job, essential, requires collaboration and commitment. Go deep - perfect.
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A7) Lecture works for rapid presentation of information. Best if used sparingly in conjunction with hands-on application.
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Look at the research, keep it to 5 minutes.
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Agreed - focus on skill, creating assignments that cannot be copied.
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A5: In my opinion, starting school early sets the framework for living in the "real world."
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A7: If you're talking... you should be telling a STORY! Narrative is a powerful way to teach.
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Q8: How much time do you lecture?
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a7) for me LECTURE=Long. Does not work well. Direct instruction with interaction works in many ways.
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A7 In short bursts & when every S doesn't know it. And with enthusiasm!
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If they can read, why can't you post that. Use your time to interact with kids :)
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We are in year 3 of doing just that & it has been great!
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A7: Lecture brings back evil memories. I was guilty, too. Glad we're moving from "I taught" to "Did SS learn?"
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What I dislike is when I ask my kid if the T explained how to do the exercises. & he answers, "uh, don't think so."
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A8 I don't lecture at all
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A8 asking tough questions.
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A8 Less than 20%. 8AM doesn't want to be talkative, & I "lecture" less than 10 mins/week in online
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It takes a lot more work & that's why standardized tests don't do it.
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A8: I try to avoid lecturing with my younger Ss, as they can't focus for that long. If you must lecture, use pictures.
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Sounds like an engaged classroom :/
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MAKE IT A SONG! Research shows it is effective :)
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A8- not big on lecturing. Not effective in my book
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starting n15m If not now, When?
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a8) Honestly, hardly ever did. Wanted them to talk about what we were learning. I would say max 3 minutes without some feedback
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textbook. (unfortunately)
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A8: Most is on blog & some video instructions, but I take 2-3 min. for demos too. https://t.co/l6uq2hP1U5
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If they can read, why can't you post that. Use your time to interact with kids :)
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A8) Can't remember last lecture to the bands. Stopped giving lectures to guitar kids this year as it wasn't even kinda effective.
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Agree - family time is too short. For some Ss, though, FT isn't much of an option.
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A8 More often & longer than I should have. Kagen strategies would have made me a better teacher.
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Sometimes pulling everyone together builds community. I get silly :) 2-3 min sounds just about perfect.
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Q9: Kids like games...how many games are used purposefully in school?
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great model for us all truly.
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A9: Research shows that games are MORE effective in learning. Problem is we don't have many good games https://t.co/5aWZjdtUm3
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Q9: Kids like games...how many games are used purposefully in school?
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I dunno. Sometimes I fall into a puddle, but not by design. Not sure how much design goes into decisions like that.
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We should scream loudly that we need to value the family.
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Love this! Assn that can't be copied - how do you do that?
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A8) Interact or Lecture? Never lecture more than 5 or 10 min, but I will discuss the topic with them for 20 or 25
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Q9: Kids like games...how many games are used purposefully in school? https://t.co/4Xs1tf7Np0
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Q9: Kids like games...how many games are used purposefully in school?
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A9 lotsa digital formative assessment can be in a gaming format as well as jeopardy 4 review kahoot quizlet minecraft oh so many
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Moved to teaching one at a time with guitar kids - much more repetitive and slower, but better learning so far.
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a9) Agree & there are many non-tech games too. Fun=ask kids to invent the game. Try it, revise it, use it again
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A9: Please share if you know of GREAT games to use purposefully.
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Demonstration assignments (play this chunk, scale, etc.). Hard to have someone else play for you.
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A9: I've always found that Jeopardy worked best when learning factual information such as history, or even when learning Spanish.
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Q9: Kids like games...how many games are used purposefully in school? https://t.co/ESPNgTgDpF
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Q9: Kids like games...how many games are used purposefully in school?
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Q10: Who is going to WYTECC?
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that would be an awesome solution if the community supported it. Ours hasn't gotten behind the idea YET
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A9 I used a ton of games. Mostly as review but also as new material to see what you know.
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I can see that in PE, music, art. What about math?
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A9. Dice and card games are great for math learning.
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A9) Have been dipping my toes in gamification. Nowhere near as good as , but it has made a difference.
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My homework is to figure out what Qs 6 through 9 were. Then I'll sing a lecture about them for 2 minutes.
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Q11: Who is going to Google Summit?
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When and where is WYTECC??
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Has to be writing or creation. Research RAFTS. Creates indi asgns & buy in because of choice.
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Fun is always better. Ask a staff member about a staff meeting.
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When and where is google summit??
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Tough Q.My wife (math T at GRHS) does rollercoaster projects. I don't get the math, but each is unique.
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Sending a dozen from Washakie 1 - we had trouble w the registration link - anyone else?
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A9 Games and simulations fit very well in social studies. "DO IT instead of just learn about it" is my motto
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I'm willing to bet that anytime a kid is having fun there *is* learning going on.
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A10 & 11 Yes to both...as of now.
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Be awesome and change the world gang! ers have a great week
U all ROCK
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I am out a bit early tonight. Have a great week everyone. Fearlessly be yourself!
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I gotta step out a bit early (i know, i know, I was late too).
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A shoutout to for being named the new Principal of Riverton Middle School. Congrats my friend.
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A10, 11) Yes to WYTECC, no to Google (I'll be on vacation with the fam!)
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Thank you for joining , chat on If not now, when?
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Thank you for joining , chat on If not now, when?
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Thanks tweeps and for leading us and also for taking my bait and jumping in!!
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Thanks all! Have a great week!
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Thanks for letting me join for my first ever ! Thoroughly enjoyed hearing from all of you!
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Thank you for moderating. Have a great week everybody!
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Good convo tonight - thanks for leading!
