#bcedchat Archive
This is an edchat for educators, primarily in British Columbia, Canada.
Sunday September 25, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
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and will be our co-moderators for tonight.
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Welcome to . Today’s topic is Communicating Learning: The New Reporting Order.
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Please introduce yourself and include your subject, grade level and area of interest. .
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Jan comodding w/ my friend
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Hiya Kevin. Glad you could make it tonite
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Hi Bryn, Looking forward to hearing your thots
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Erica, Secondary Math & Mandarin teacher in Burnaby. Need to catch up with some work but will check from time to time!
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My wifi is really slow, for some reason, so I hope I can keep up.
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Hi, I am Rebecca. I teach Kindergarten in Victoria, BC with . I am passionate about all things education!
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Erica - how wonderful to see you again. How's it going?
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Ian - Principal Librarian at in the Sunny Shuswap for looking forward to evolving report order!
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Hi. Christine from the Sunshine Coast. Math educator, sessional instructo & school trustee. Very interested in tonight's topic.
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We will be using the Q1, A1 format. Please label your responses and use the hashtag
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Dave from Nanaimo. New elementary principal on Rockin Gabriola island
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Fred from Richmond, Mentor teacher, ed consultant, learner & educational explorer
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So happy to see so many familiar tweeps for the discussion on Communicating Student Learning (report cards, being 1part of that).
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Hi Ian. Sunny...mhhh. I think Autumn has struck here This is changing times in more ways than one
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Olwen here. Teacher of little humans in bold, brave Burnaby
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Hey Fred- thanks for joining us tonight
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Welcome, Dave. So glad you could join tonight. Looking forward to your perspective.
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Q1: In what ways are your schools/districts looking at Communicating Student Learning or reporting this year?
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Hi Dave. Love Gabriola! So glad you came
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Tracy tweeting from Langley BC using my phone tonight as I am already in Bed!!!
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Hi Olwen. Be bold be brave and the world turns around.
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Thanks for joining us tonight
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On the search for movement strategies for a small English class.
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Q1: RT What ways are you looking/doing communicating student learning? https://t.co/uqNlrZQN6J
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Q1: In what ways are your schools/districts looking at Communicating Student Learning or reporting this year?
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A1: we are just starting the process of communicating/dialogue'ing with Ps/Ts around &what it means to our community
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definitely a mentally draining weekend at
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Hiya Christine. Interesting isn't it?
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A1: we have a big learning cohort in SD41. At school we have several teachers doing portfolios, 3way conferences, wrtng RCs w Ss
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Kevin here - Principal in Nanaimo, K-7
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Hello Me, too! Cold virus claimed my Sunday today. Might just lurk on because responses might not be lucid. LOL
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A1- we are just starting to discuss what this is going to look like. Lots of anxiety about written reports and myed usage as well
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A1 we are going through/creating district belief statements around reporting,exploring self assessment & trying out efolio tools
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Yes. Interested in how teachers, schools, and districts interpret the sameness and differences of CSL an reporting.
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Jeremy from Nanaimo. At a family dinner, so just going to sneak a peak when I can.
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A1: This year our district implemented Standards Based Grading - it's all about giving kids feedback and having them improve.
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A1 - Lots of consultation happening in Nanaimo as well. I believe there is a lot of relief just seeing the interim order
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A1: New CSL tool, Communicating Student learning tool that aligns with the revised curriculum. Also using as an option
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Hey bud- thanks for coming out and lurking a bit tonight https://t.co/Hf9JSaF1ys
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Jeremy from Nanaimo. At a family dinner, so just going to sneak a peak when I can.
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my staffs been making comment about how the traditional RCs we've used may not be best tool for competencies
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well, school just started, but I think very well. People excited about the possibilities & continuing what started.
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Hey Jeremy! How's it going? Long time.
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A1. Not practicing in K-12 schools at this point in time but interested how the reporting order with CSL is interpreted.
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sure was...but it was AWESOME!!!!!
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A1: Lots of exploration still...portfolios a hot topic. Interested in what other districts are doing.
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Can you give an example of how it looks?
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A1: I personally have kids report their own citizenship scores (1-4)-rating and giving themselves ownership on their report card.
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Our district is going with 'option b', but curious what others think of the choices (not much difference from before)
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Yes been waiting for it. At least it's out.
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Absolutely. What is the alternative. Reporting order lends itself to innovation but also status quo.
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. busy busy busy... so more of the same.
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we still have Trad report card tools to be used, but encouraging "exploring other tools" esp
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YES!!! I am so happy to hear that your district has opted for Option B. I wonder how many other districts did. Anybody?
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Sarah (1st yr teacher finally!) from Ladysmith! Late because no one warned me prep would take this long :P
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Right Sarah- if I had only known....LOL thanks for joining us tonight though
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Ive just created 500 ePortfolios this wkend & lots more to go. Lots of interest 2tell story this way
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Furthermore... what will option B look like for your district, for another district... what's the same? what's different?
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A1: My reporting & asses will also be based on child set learning intentions that align with our Ab Ed Enhancemnt Agreement.
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Thanks, Kirk. From this, how do parents/guardians get info? Do they see this or something else?
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Q2: Based on your understanding, what has remained the same with the new BC Reporting Order this year?
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Who are the 500 ePortforlios for or of? How much IT support is required?
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I honestly think it is different for different levels. Sec, not much diff, elem/middle, experimenting with change.
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Q1: Our school is option B- Using formative term 1, new indicators term 2 & 3. Whole school (1100 S's) on
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My Learng Tech team supports it all -no IT except 4servers. Theyre all students thru dist
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Hey - Here is question 2: https://t.co/G6wim0m50z
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Q2: Based on your understanding, what has remained the same with the new BC Reporting Order this year?
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Totally agree. Has to be some "personalization" to communicate student learning & progress, especially w/ multiple Ts.
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RT Q2: What's remained same with new Reporting Order? https://t.co/ucAY2FGlOm
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Q2: Based on your understanding, what has remained the same with the new BC Reporting Order this year?
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A2: it seems that the 3 formal/2 informal and letter grades/percentages at certain grades seem same.
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I see this, too. Maybe when the 10-12 curriculum changes there will be bigger changes in reporting, too.
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I feel the conversation about student learning & reporting shifting
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A1: We have district team of Ts experimenting w/no %s, end of term T/S interviews, portfolios, new interim formats...
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A2: appears to be very similar, although admit I have not looked at it too deeply
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Ha! Yes Erica - just being polished up now & hoping to get them out 2 you asap.
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A2. Letter grades. Performance standards for lower grades. Percentages for 10-12. Only difference is Ss self-eval of Core Comp.
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A2: That really depends schools could use A & not change much, B offers HUGE potential for change: authentic & school needs driven
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A2 Districts pretty much have the green light to keep the status quo for format as long as Core Competencies are covered
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Love it. Thanks for sharing. what programme is it?
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Still 5 total. Focus on formal cutoffs for grades.
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A2: It does not seem that different. I think it needs to be more feedback driven in order to be personalized & meaningful.
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I see more options in 10-12 (if available/offered) for Ss, but not much else if grades/percent counts.
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A2- I feel like lots of teachers prefer the status quo as well- I think you will see a huge shift when 10-12 reporting changes
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Districts have option - stay with status quo or develop district policy that allows for innovation throughout the year.
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A2: my experience with teachers is that we are pretty awesome at getting kids to be self reflective now we get to show it!
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It would interesting to know what's happening at online/non-traditional schools. What happens when June ends?
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DId not know this, thanks for this update.
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Is it time for the TRB to start certificating tutors and licensing tutor "companies." Tremendous abuse occurring. Caveat emptor.
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Welcome Pat! Thank you for participating in tonight. Pretty great to have your voice!
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A2. Ss self-assessing core comp is a significant step. More interested in what OPTION B looks like for districts/schools doing it.
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Agreed. Wonder if cumulative better here
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This does seem to be a great opportunity. Mine S self-assessments to Ps were always separate from formal reporting
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All students K-9 will be involved in self assessment of core competencies at the end of the year. Build ownership of learning
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I have always tried to embed self-reflection of Ss into RCs - this makes me feel like there is validity to that process
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I used cumulative at Cent Sec, but still had that "June 30" deadline..>
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I noticed that quite a few ppl are considering cumulative grading
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Hi - Janice here from Richmond
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Also allowed Parents to respond to me specifically outside of the whole RC though. This is key communication.
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A2. Only other difference aside from Ss assess Core Comp is absence of percents for middle grades. How does this connect to CSL?
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Happy to wade in. Always feel free to send questions my way at any time!
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Thanks Pat. That's coming up as question
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Here is Q3: Piggybacking off Q2- what are noticeable differences in the Reporting Order this year?
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Thanks, Patricia. I really appreciate your support in this time of change.
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I like that self assessment must be included now. Lots of teachers are doing it but now it makes it consistent.
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the more communication the less error in those relationships.
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RT Q3: Noticeable differences in new reporting order? https://t.co/1JvnM1Go8r
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Here is Q3: Piggybacking off Q2- what are noticeable differences in the Reporting Order this year?
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A1: In going into 4th year of Descriptive Feedback & CSL professional learning series. Stakeholders working group on CSL.
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A3. Identified differences in A2 responses. But the REAL difference comes with those doing OPTION B and how it connects with CSL.
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A3 - Biggest difference is the official permission being granted to the innovators
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That FreshGrade is awesome. Hoping some of my Ts will want try it..>
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We hope you’re enjoying the chat tonight! Remember, we chat every Sunday at 7 pm PST!
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Hi Wonder about process behind product. When will CC stretch/strength artifacts of profile growth be curated?
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A1: Most schools will use option 1. Schools that want to go with option 2 to be part of Innovation Grant CSL initiative.
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Does your district connect or integrate descriptive feedback & CSL with report cards?
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Can you explain option B?
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A3 big shift is consulting w parents of what the next version may look like (or descriptive communication of competencies)
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A3: I have to agree with it's about the permission to innovate
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Exactly! We're seeing a shift to prioritize giving Ss more voice and choice in their learning
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A3 Definitely being offered flexibility in how we report and share
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Option B is alternative (district choice) to report out student progress. Don't know how it would look. Varies.
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I think some districts might be afraid to remove from status quo as it may put more pressure on teachers
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Hoping others can illuminate?
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A3. Permission to innovate and include student voice!
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Just climbing aboard from PG
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Option B requires district policy changes, consultation, and application to ministry. Could be. District initiative.
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This is definitely the dance that will be required - how do you move forward, while not leaving folks behind?
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and MindShift still be away from reporting on what was done to communicating ongoing learning journeys
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Hi Craig. Didnt see you here - welcome And yes to student voice!
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A3: Interested in Asses option B, & what that means for districts. WHO decides which option? Teachers? Collaborative?
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agreed, already a year of change but good to have the option to explore other ways of CSL
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Yes difference betwn reporting summative & cmns learning journeys/stories
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Might be use of in SD36 or SD42. Districts who've gone gradeless. What would that look like? How often?
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YES! P's have to 'buy in' In my IDL I was asking P's what they wanted to see reported since they do the work at home
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For Core Competencies, we have been focusing on noticing, naming and nurturing in the classroom and school context - 1/2
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District need to outline their local policy.Does not have to be all schools.More important if school, teachers, parents are ready
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A1: we r hoping to address new reporting ideas for high school this Fri.
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So that when students are asked to self-assess in June, they have awareness & evidence of their development in the Core Comps 2/2
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Love idea of PLAY, intent, and vision. Need TIME to innovate and create. Need longer timeline to develop Option B.
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Perhaps but not sure a software wld be answer 1st. Consider what looks/feels/cmns story then think container
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- Iteachers will have to be explicit about their activities touching on core competencies so students will be able to self report
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A3: Self-assessment using core competencies included in high school report cards
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Curious, as well. We only know what we know. We need to experiment and PLAY to figure out what works & CSL.
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Hi Shannon. Welcome We're chatting abt new reporting order & implications
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yes!! Nothing is better than giving students autonomy. So awesome to see them take control.
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Districts submit to the ministry, not apply. Important to learn from others and share successes and learning
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Yes, some schools and districts are already there and ready to go, others will need time to play and investigate.
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It is what most elem are doing. you don't divide the terms as equal, averaging for total.
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Does not have to be technology oriented. But I feel that it has to communicate student learning. Report cards don't.
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Halfway through tonight's chat! Still time to come join in!
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You bet. If you expect Ss to self-assess on Core Competencies, they better have a strong understanding of them!
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Tech only makes it easier to amplify immediacy. Sometimes a convo is more in line w/ learning
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Would love to see what districts are ready to move forward w/ as Option B for reporting Student Progress.
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Yes Janice, important to pay attention to and involve students in core competency work all year!
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And lots of practice at reflecting
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reporting & assessment procedures seems to be vague for high school Ts. Would like/hope 4 hard & fast rules
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I believe that the application to submit Option B is due this year??? Could be wrong. Heard timeline was short.
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Embedding core competencies as foundational & conversation 2 everythg we do allows practice
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Hear this quite a bit as well
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This immediacy likely key with overworked Ts; also need simple learning curve to get buy-in. Many ready
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Pat, can you answer this?
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Could be a blend between F2F, technology, and other possibilities. I prefer the balanced approach.
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Q4: After observing discussions on changes to the Reporting Order, what do you think should have been included?
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Love that it is a part of it. Will give Ss chance to advocate for themselves esp re: social responsibility
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Agreed. Needs access and flexibility. Whats important to share/what's not
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We need to make time for it - I use end of term interviews to formally address Ss progress
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almost as vague as what a "B" can mean😜provincial dialogues will benefit all of
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Teaching profession needs to take a shift in practice with shift in pedagogy & reporting/CSL practices.
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Think the goal is to give more choice. I like rules, too, but I think the what would you like attitude is exciting.
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A4: Missing is power of discussions around assessing / evaluating that will continue to improve this area for Ss & their learning
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Here is Q4 https://t.co/3iKSglEEAQ
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Q4: After observing discussions on changes to the Reporting Order, what do you think should have been included?
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Have the conversations that matter
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Do you use guiding questions to help Ss identify stretch & strength of CC profile? What about "I Can" statements?
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I totally agree. Meaningful conversations about student learning and progress. Doing more is not better.
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District policy can be revised schools can opt in throughout the year.No specific date to prior to moving away from status quo
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BOOM! https://t.co/9guCX3nDkc
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I totally agree. Meaningful conversations about student learning and progress. Doing more is not better.
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I am reporting 2 Ps with more descriptive feedback, fewer marks/grades. Incl parents via email. Meeting needs despite
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A4: what Fred said https://t.co/hdiPYP3udA
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A4: Missing is power of discussions around assessing / evaluating that will continue to improve this area for Ss & their learning
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Totally agree there. More tests, less tests... WHY TESTS? It makes me think what we really want for kids.
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A4- I like the openness of option B but wish there was a bit more guidance or example of what it could possibly look like
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And strengthens focus at school. Key piece will be how to align this work with Core Comps sel-assessment.
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I wanted to see language My profs shared: Developing, Applying, Extending (learning) w/formative comments better than 1-4
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Would love to hear reporting ideas from high sch Ts & Principals
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This will be generated from the districts; think much differentiation here so more guidance difficult.
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I think many examples already exist in BC - just need to share
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Wondering if terms are just replacing the numbers?
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A4. An exemplar of what Option B could look like. FEAR holds us back. The unknown does not encourage risk taking or innovation.
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Part of the challenge is finding locatn where these exist
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Definite concern- MUST have Formative, terms give context, formative comments give direction/guidance
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Agreed But need to repurpose time to allow for conversations: PTI to Ss-Led Conferencing. Time for Ss to reflect.
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YES. makes me wonder why we are not sharing or at least know where to access good ideas & people.
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At sec. has made a lot of progress in Standards based grading; P & S ability to 'see' where S is at on each outcome
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Wondering if thats open to interpretation by teachers?
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A4 - Definitely hearing the need for a "Provincial Scrapbook" on reporting- we need a place where examples from BC can be seen
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You're speaking my language. Structures we have today suit old model. Need to place time & money to what we value. .
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Q5: Student self assessment in core competencies are part of last reporting period. Ideas on how you’ll be approaching this?
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Popping in late to
I'm from Coquitlam. A middle school teacher currently seconded to the local union office. =)
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Don’t forget to use the hashtag throughout the week to keep the conversation going!
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A4: What I'm sensing is that Ts dont want strict guidelines but examples of what could be possible-starting points of inspiration
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Ive seen Ss as part of 3way conf -depends on tchr
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OH MY GOODNESS. Agree. Parent Teacher Interview. Where's the STUDENT and student learning?
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I also hear concerns that new assess/reporting practices should be respectful of Ts time.
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Can we ever get away from that? T is subjective what's important & when, how to frame context, how to coach S growth
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RT Q5 How are you approaching reporting student self assessment? Ideas? https://t.co/9Kcql4Q1Ig
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Q5: Student self assessment in core competencies are part of last reporting period. Ideas on how you’ll be approaching this?
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A5: considering using a weekly reflective write based on 1 competency. Using mind mapping to see progress and growth
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A5: Feeling lost at high sch level but already giving kids more opportunity to self assessment, consider core competencies
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Provincial "Pinterest" on what's happening in BC Classrooms! Telling our stories about the amazing & wondrous!
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Hmm... I believe this is the 2016/17 reporting order. It might change. I like your thinking. School pilot.
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Last year was guiding Qs/prompts, goal setting; will be tweaking it this year. I find it pays off huge dividends
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Sounds like a good start Shannon. Its during reflection that we learn
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A5: Students write report cards with me. We conference. They bring evidence to the table, I bring my scary assessment binder
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Yes. We have a shared experience as high school Ts. Could be different. Why not try now as to how.
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A5: Part of ADST: Plan, Make, Share & REFLECT! Weekly reflections are part of my class: vlog, written, typed, drawn, sketchnotes
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Hi folks. I'm SORRY to have missed tonight. Just home from double duty on soccer and ball practices--my partner was away all w/e!
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My staff and community would be possibly open to school wide change in reporting. It could be exciting!
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A5. We ID'ed need for S self-assess as part of goal before report order. Interested to see if we can align with Core self-assess
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R you going to attach that to the final report card as self assessmt?
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Innovation takes courage, communication & community. I am glad you have that in your school. Also a district convo.
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Jarrod from Fort St John, bed time rituals complete
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Id be interested in your journey
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I will have to think of how to attach the Ss conference booklet (3 pages long) usually make reference in overview
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This is so key! Also opportunity for 'publishing' student voice; writing for bigger audience; great prep… https://t.co/nxp5Ngv0xr
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My Parents love my biweekly emailsd reports. Great opportunity to report on soc/emot as well :)
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Agreed. Ts need to be given freedom/time to experiment w/different methods/exemplars to make it work for them
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A5: Having children setting learning intentions & goals, reflecting thru dicsussions, journals, vlog, & go pro capture
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blogs are also great for publishing student voice...
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A5. Love idea of Ss self-assessment as part of learning. Assessment AS Learning. Wonder how those using I CAN stmts are doing?
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I teach grades 2-10, name & nurture of CC is the same for all! It's new for all my S's, we all name & nurture each other
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A5: Getting S's 2 complete own report card based on standards, CCs. Ss tend 2 lowball themselves.Will be fascinating experience!
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How are yu attaching that to RC? Or are yu thinking to reference it?
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Goal of self assessment is to increase student ownership of their learning, process is key, function more important than form!
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Many have been doing this on projects so stretch won't be as large for many Ss (and Ts). https://t.co/jG95iD2VMr
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A5: Getting S's 2 complete own report card based on standards, CCs. Ss tend 2 lowball themselves.Will be fascinating experience!
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Are there any expectations around # of Core Comp Ss need to self-assess in 3rd term?
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Can be included in end of year summative report in a variety of ways
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Follow the people you have met in this chat - you will find they are the resource.
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Can you please provide an example of what it could look like?
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A5 Conversation key to continual learning. Circular in approach deepening
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That's the part thats appealing - flexibility and variety to allow voices to rise
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Love what this will do. Equipping Ss with vocab/understanding of criteria HAS to improve their learning,… https://t.co/MA2hf54XtW
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Goal of self assessment is to increase student ownership of their learning, process is key, function more important than form!
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I sharing via , will be looking at addingas a reflective section that sums it up, but will be continual.
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I also liked the peer team assessments to raise the conversations, evidence seeking & verifying. I'd mark rebuttals.
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A5. Assessment AS & FOR Learning are essential for Ss success. How does this get "seen" in reporting student progress? Or does it?
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Thank you for joining tonight!
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My fave "you don't know what you don't know". Expose what's out there and share possibilities, change isn't so scary
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Good point. Although gov can't even seem to get this in order for instr support samples for new curric... :-/
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When doing end of term interviews, Ss often tougher on themselves. dialogue helps confirm/correct Ss progress
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Hi, Victoria here, super late, , sorry! - some lightweight lurking late in the chat.
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In a way parents/community also understand. (Many still believe they know what a letter grade communicate… https://t.co/2nbqWsQvYW
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A5. Assessment AS & FOR Learning are essential for Ss success. How does this get "seen" in reporting student progress? Or does it?
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Don't forget to follow folks like to keep the conversation going!
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Agreed. You are a learner. Love it. Takes vulnerability and growth mindset to welcome new ideas and change.
