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TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT

We are pleased that you are here. Let’s get to know each other. #TCMchat

angelaistewart May 10 @ 9:01 PM EDT

I'm and P-3 mathematics coach from Nova Scotia. My first #TCMchat. How exciting!

BaileyJodie May 10 @ 9:02 PM EDT

I am a math coach and 5th grade teacher in Columbus, Ohio! Excited to join tonight's chat. #tcmchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Alyson Lischka - one of the article authors from Middle Tennessee State. I love seeing students light up with understanding! #TCMchat

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Hi, Zack Hill from Florida, K-5 math coach. I love students' creativity. #TCMChat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Hello! I'm Megan - T&L Coach, PK-G8 math. The American School of Dubai #TCMchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Zak Champagne here. Researcher at FCR-STEM. Excited to join you all tonight! #TCMChat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Sara from Ohio- instructional coach #tcmchat

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Welcome Alyson, Jodie and Angela. I've been looking forward to this #TCMchat. I'm glad that you are here.

BaileyJodie May 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT

My favorite thing about my students is when they debate differences about how they interpret a mathematical problem. #tcmchat

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Welcome Sara! #TCMchat

In reply to @7Firestone

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Jayne from Wisconsin - K-5 Math Coach/Interventionist #tcmchat

TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Q1 How do you select tasks for specific math learning targets? #TCMchat

DawneCoker May 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Hi, Math Friends! Dawne Coker from NC, K-5 Math Specialist #TCMchat

mahdoubler May 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@mahdoubler Looking forward to hear from the group #TCMchat

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Hi Jayne! We are glad that you are here. Tell us your favorite thing about your students #TCMchat

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7Firestone May 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT

I love watching students enjoy the productive struggle and have fun with challenges. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT

My favorite thing about my kiddos was their willingness to look at problems in different ways. #TCMChat

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Welcome Dawne and MaryAnne #TCMchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Nice Sarah! I totally agree. #TCMchat

In reply to @7Firestone

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1 How do you select tasks for specific math learning targets? #TCMchat

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT

I love how my students no longer say, "I don't get it." They have perseverance. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Look for tasks that make sense to kiddos - not just adults. #tcmchat

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 I look for tasks that will be engaging for Ss and give them the opportunity to engage in the action described by the target. #TCMChat

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1. I look for tasks that are hands on and usually include manipulatives. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Begin with the end in mind #tcmchat

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angelaistewart May 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: Tasks that involve rich open-ended questions. #tcmchat

BaileyJodie May 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: I like to find tasks that have low floor/high ceiling. Multiple pathways but offer opportunities to emphasize needed content. #tcmchat

MathMileMarkers May 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Glad to join tonight's conversation!#TCMchat

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TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Q2 What strategies do you use to scaffold students toward exploration of problem? #TCMchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 - We look for tasks that will give a context or situation that provides an entry point to understanding. #tcmchat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 Can be tricky! I think conceptual 1st- and think about what will lead them to the most discoveries about the big ideas. #tcmchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 I use tasks that leave a lot of room for student questioning & exploration, where more information is needed to fully engage. #tcmchat

qawilson May 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Ruth from Maine #tcmchat

angelaistewart May 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@JayneHaenel Love it... students need to develop grit! #tcmchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A2-- My go to: "What do you wonder?" #tcmchat

DawneCoker May 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A2 We usually start by covering the question and do a close reading on the math story #TCMchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:12 PM EDT

This sounds like our "Delay the Question" technique - leave them something open to think about! #TCMchat

In reply to @mlmchugh

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:13 PM EDT

I also lean heavily towards notice/wonder nowadays when introducing a task. #TCMChat

In reply to @mlmchugh

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:13 PM EDT

I love the "wondering" technique! #TCMchat

In reply to @mlmchugh

angelaistewart May 10 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2; There is power in productive struggle. I think teachers jump in too soon and too often! #tcmchat

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Yes, asking "What do you notice?" and "What do you wonder?" is a great way to engage students in the task, #TCMchat

In reply to @mlmchugh

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Yes! Exactly! #tcmchat

In reply to @alyson_lischka

megyzr May 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1: co-plan sessions, think through purpose, engagement level, low floor-high ceiling, math background needed... #TCMchat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2 Notice/wonder& helping students make connections to previous understanding. #tcmchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2- I also like to leave a lot of manipulatives out for Ss so they have to decide what tools to use for exploration. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2 Similar to the notice/wonder technique, I like the question, "what questions do you have?" #tcmchat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:15 PM EDT

The action is so important, I'm always thinking "beyond answer-getting" #Tcmchat

In reply to @zack_hill

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Yes, also think deliberately giving more time to make sense of the problem makes the struggle more productive. #TCMChat

In reply to @angelaistewart

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A2- I love to mid task share out. Highlight something a collaborative group/partners have noticed to help others push forward. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT

More time! According to PtA, providing adequate time for students is an equity issue. #tcmchat

In reply to @zack_hill, @angelaistewart

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT

I like the idea of instilling the habit in students that mathematics can still have things we don't know. wondering does that. #tcmchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT

I've also asked: What information is missing? & my favorite: If an alien walked in, what would the alien need to know? #tcmchat

In reply to @Zakchamp

angelaistewart May 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Yes, I want to hear students declare, "Math makes sense!" #tcmchat

In reply to @zack_hill

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A twist on mid task share out is "secret agent", where one group member can go around and "spy" on other group ideas. #tcmchat

In reply to @7Firestone

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Yes, such a powerful message. #TCMChat

In reply to @alyson_lischka

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2- ask: what do you know? What are you trying to find out? what other tools could you try? Draw it/act it out etc. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT

I like the alien analogy. I always said, "if we got a new student right now, what would they need to know?" #tcmchat

In reply to @mlmchugh

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Aliens are cooler in middle school :) #tcmchat

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TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Q3 What are some characteristics of problem solvers? What about problem performers? #TCMChat

qawilson May 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2 if Ss are stuck because of difficult fractions /decimals sometimes I will ask what they would do if the numbers were 'easier' #TCMchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT

I used to call these "Ambassadors" - you can send an ambassador to another group for suggestions and ideas. I like the spy twist!#TCMchat

In reply to @mlmchugh, @7Firestone

BaileyJodie May 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A2: Using notice/wonder! Helps Ss clarify and T hear direction of Ss thinking. So powerful! Has been a game-changer in my class! #tcmchat

BethNctm May 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Aliens, Ambassadors, Spies...I love that elem teachers are consistently so creative #TCMchat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2: Ts use First Think (Indiv.), Second Think (w feedback, w partner), T "sprinkles in" a bit of info - reminds me a bit of 3Act #TCMchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3 Problem solvers stop and think before they do anything. Problem performers start the problem by doing before thinking. #tcmchat

BaileyJodie May 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT

I love this this way to construct knowledge as a group - and empowering Ss to think about math! #tcmchat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A2- I love to mid task share out. Highlight something a collaborative group/partners have noticed to help others push forward. #tcmchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3 Problem performers want to jump right to operations, often not considering context. #tcmchat

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A3 Problem solvers are willing to try different paths when they get stuck. #tcmchat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Yep! @ddmeyer "be less helpful" #tcmchat

In reply to @angelaistewart, @ddmeyer

angelaistewart May 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q3: Problem performers a.k.a. number plunkers! #tcmchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Nice point. So a key is to find ways to get students to stop and think - that is what underlies the strategies in the article. #TCMchat

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zack_hill May 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3 Received this at a coaches meeting Monday. Comprehensive but seems to fit the bill. https://t.co/so15viaNXG #TCMChat

qawilson May 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Problem performers want to be first done, problem solvers enjoy the journey #TCMchat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 Ts sometimes create problem performers when the practice the same type of prob over and over-becomes routine/ procedural #tcmchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Not sure my best problem-solvers "enjoy" the journey. For many, #thestruggleisreal- daily, hourly, minutely?!? #tcmchat

In reply to @qawilson

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Definitely, you and your co-authors put together a great list! #TCMchat

In reply to @alyson_lischka

rsdk5math May 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT

#TCMchat Performers=formula memorizers. Solvers=seek to understand

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2. I ask them "What do you know, or what are you able to do?" #tcmchat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3: Phil Daro's work comes to mind "beyond answer getting" = performers. MPs need to be part of solvers' expectations. #TCMchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT

I think that's right - productive struggle is hard stuff! #TCMchat

In reply to @mlmchugh, @qawilson

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT

The MPs have made such a big difference in how our students learn and attack their problems. #tcmchat

In reply to @megyzr

TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Q4 How might we support problem performers in ways that develop their thinking and sharing? #TCMChat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT

For me, the MPs help my Ss name & verbalize what they are doing or need to do differently to see success. #tcmchat

In reply to @JayneHaenel, @megyzr

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Deborah Ball said at NCSM this year, "you don't teach kids to persevere by telling them to persevere." #tcmchat.

In reply to @alyson_lischka, @mlmchugh, @qawilson

angelatbarlow May 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Better late than never - this is Angela - an author #TCMchat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3- problem solvers can visualize the problem and explain their solution or thinking well! #tcmchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Glad you could join us! #TCMchat

In reply to @angelatbarlow

rsdk5math May 10 @ 9:33 PM EDT

#TCMchat A4 build conceptual understanding. Create a culture of collaboration and exploration. Provide rich tasks.

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 Encourage the use of multiple representations with the priority being student sense making. #TCMChat

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 We might help them by asking lots of questions to help further their understanding. #tcmchat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4: begins w task choice, lesson design. Offering T&L that isn't about the answer. Model, think aloud, partners, groups, math chats #TCMchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 - the role of scaffolding into problem solving is key here - problem performers need help getting into problem solving #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 Numberless word problems! #TCMChat cc: @bstockus

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4- love the delay the question strategy in the article. Get them to slow down. #tcmchat

teamcorrea May 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Late but here Carolina #TCMchat

JayneHaenel May 10 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4 Notice & wonder #tcmchat

teamcorrea May 10 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4 I tried the delay question and the amount of connections we can see the students are doing about the content #TCMchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A4 No doubt, this was the highlight of the article for me. Such a good strategy. #TCMChat

7Firestone May 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4- love the delay the question strategy in the article. Get them to slow down. #tcmchat

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Yes! This seems to parallel delaying the question and actually encourages students to ask their own. #TCMchat

In reply to @Zakchamp, @bstockus

TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Q5 Talk about the “delay the question” strategy and how might you use this in your classroom discussions? #TCMchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Yup! Totally agree with this pal. #TCMChat

In reply to @zack_hill, @bstockus

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A variation on delay the question allows students to generate questions to answer - then pick one that serves the right purpose. #TCMchat

In reply to @Zakchamp

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Nice! Do kids get to choose their own question? Or does the class agree on one? #TCMChat

In reply to @alyson_lischka

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:42 PM EDT

I have seen it work either way - keep your mathematical goal in mind when choosing. #TCMchat

In reply to @Zakchamp

teamcorrea May 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4 I think the strategy of simple problem before the big task will help them to connect &understand ideas to express what they know #TCMchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Makes sense! #TCMChat

In reply to @alyson_lischka

megyzr May 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A5: time to explore, create, think before "tell" - naturally wonder. Use shared space to collect their ideas until Q is "revealed" #TCMchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A5 Delay the ?? also allows for non-sensical ??s to get out of their system: Who weighs bananas, apples, and pineapples like that? #tcmchat

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Love this combination of student autonomy and keeping the mathematical goal in mind. #TCMchat

In reply to @alyson_lischka, @Zakchamp

TCM_at_NCTM - Moderator May 10 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Q6 When using these strategies, how can Ts be sure they are not depriving the Ss from engaging in the problem-solving process? #TCMchat

mlmchugh May 10 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A6: As Ss become familiar w/ problem-solving tasks, let Ss run the "notice/wonder" or create ??s themselves time. Less T talk. #tcmchat

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A6 - My new favorite motto is "talk less, listen more" #TCMChat

megyzr May 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A6: Ss investigate before Ts explain; Ts monitor sweet spot btwn productive struggle / frustration; Ss lead thinking, Ts facilitate #TCMchat

alyson_lischka May 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A6 Scaffolding is only necessary to develop all students as problem solvers -then turn it over to the students, habits are powerful #tcmchat

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A6 Being mindful of the amount of scaffolding we provide during tasks. Not too much, not too little... try to find the just right. #TCMChat

tmchiepp May 10 @ 9:58 PM EDT

let's give @mpershan credit too "our hints are too helpful" #TCMChat

In reply to @megyzr, @angelaistewart, @ddmeyer, @mpershan

Zakchamp May 10 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Kinda reminds me of @bstockus' Ignite talk at @MathEdLeaders 2017. #TCMChat https://t.co/KeWCOhdaCk

zack_hill May 10 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A6 Being mindful of the amount of scaffolding we provide during tasks. Not too much, not too little... try to find the just right. #TCMChat

MathMileMarkers May 10 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Delaying the questions promotes discussion and allows students to follow their natural inquiry path using things they know. #tcmchat

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