#5thchat Archive

#5thchat is for people interested in chatting about topics in education, especially as they relate to Grade 5. The goal is to connect people who enjoy learning & sharing, plus supporting & creating partnerships worldwide!

Tuesday November 21, 2017
8:00 PM EST

  • participatechat Nov 21 @ 8:00 PM EST
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  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Nov 21 @ 8:02 PM EST
    I'm Paul Solarz, a 5th grade teacher from Arlington Heights, Illinois. Will be in and out tonight, but I'm sure it's going to be a great chat! Thanks to @Mr_F_Learning for moderating! #5thchat
  • edtech_ch Nov 21 @ 8:02 PM EST
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  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi Guys, fellow teacher of those 5th graders out in Dubai. #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Welcome Nicole. What time is it in Dubai? #5thchat
    In reply to @Nikcal88
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Nov 21 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hey Nicole! Glad you could chat with us! #5thchat
    In reply to @Nikcal88
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hello, I'm a 4th grade teacher from Va. #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Question 1 #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Much appreciated. We'll see how many others will be joining us knowing it's two days before Thanksgiving. #5thchat
    In reply to @Nikcal88
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:05 PM EST
    #5thchat Good evening! Terry, 4th grade T from Alabama.
  • HowardKiyuna Nov 21 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hey #5thchat. Howard from SF Bay Area. I'm both 5th and 6th math science in an inclusion setting.
  • pollack_hannah4 Nov 21 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hi! I'm Hannah, an Early Childhood Education major at Cedarville, University. I thought I'd join you all tonight. :) #5thchat
  • hartel30 Nov 21 @ 8:06 PM EST
    John from MO. Once upon a time 5th grade teacher but really 3rd for quite a while. Checking in as much as possible #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1 We do have the same time. We use it to plan sometimes together and other times solo. We always discuss and collaborate though because we each take a subject to plan. #5thchat
  • HowardKiyuna Nov 21 @ 8:06 PM EST
    We're 1 class per grade and asked to work in groups. Supposed to be Monday's but it changes. #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Do you feel like you accomplish more together or solo? #5thchat
    In reply to @4XSoccermom
  • hartel30 Nov 21 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1. Have one hour a day common. PLC meet together formally on Wed and informally plan and collaborate as needed other days #5thchat
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:08 PM EST
    #5thchat A1: We're a team of 5. 4 have common planning. We're all new to the school or grade level.Collaboration is very superficial. We'll get there...just not yet!
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Nov 21 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1 - We meet twice per month before school for team meetings, every week at lunch for a Math PLC, and we schedule other times to work on curriculum or specific events like field trips. #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:09 PM EST
    I actually value both. #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: No common planning time that is scheduled. There might be some time allocated during an early dismissal day #5thchat
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:10 PM EST
    We meet once a week during a common prep time #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:10 PM EST
    We have a team of 6 teachers with 90 minutes of common planning time. We meet every twice every six days for curriculum planning or business items. #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Hi all. Elaine here. Sorry I’m late! Mommy duties. #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Question 2 #5thchat
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  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 While they try to give us all common time sometimes it’s hard to fit it in. At least 2 of the 3 share a common prep. #5thchat
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  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:13 PM EST
    I think so, there are very few common prep times for same level teachers #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1 Weuse common preps to talk about assessments Ss progress and whatever we are doing in our classrooms. #5thchat
  • twoguysde Nov 21 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: Video Follow Up...we can plan together but it’s important to reflect together and the best way to do this is with video! #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2 we realized that asking Ts on team their wants/needs for that subject = better planned and productive mtg. #5thchat
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: Planning with Ts that teach in the same style - student led, inquiry/project based. Common grades do not always mean common planning or ideas #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2 Joint planning can be more impactful when Ts share common goals. #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Yes! Reflections are crucial for growth! #5thchat
    In reply to @twoguysde
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #5thchat A2: Having a scope..knowing what our end goals are...preparing to share before MTG to be able to meaningful collaborate,,,,reflect and know where you need assistance and be ready to ask
  • hartel30 Nov 21 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2 Don't always want to be told what to do but more focused goals/projects could lead to more productive mtg #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2 This 1 stumped me. I feel like we're very lucky in our district and I know I'm lucky with my team. We work well together and meet daily even if just for a few minutes. #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:16 PM EST
    The 2 unit leads send out a google form with ideas on how the mtg could go then plan it based on feedback. It’s been AMAZING since we started it! #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Absolutely! You can say that it is data driven. #5thchat
    In reply to @Nikcal88
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:17 PM EST
    You said the C word! Collaboration is another key to successful common planning! #5thchat
    In reply to @Teachintjay
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 Would like to have an outline of things to cover so we stay on track #5thchat
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  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 I️ think setting norms is also crucial. #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:18 PM EST
    I totally agree. Without an agenda and time keeper, the mtg goes off track quickly. #5thchat
    In reply to @shammanaj
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Question 3 #5thchat
  • RobLunak Nov 21 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2 shared goals and clear expectations. #5thchat
  • mmdetrick Nov 21 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Jumping in #5thchat
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A3: Not currently, my students leave the building after me and head to 6th grade at a middle school. It would be interesting to see what is happening in the grade below #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:20 PM EST
    😂😂😂 I’m in the car while my son is at Boy Scouts Meeting while my daughters are arguing in the back seat! 😂😂😂 never a dull moment. #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3 we have NO vertical planning time, which is a shame. These mtgs would HAVE to be well planned so they are useful. #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:22 PM EST
    they totally can if they promote growth based on needs. #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:22 PM EST
    well planned is key! classroom visits to see how the room works/material taught would be interesting! #5thchat
    In reply to @Nikcal88
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Agreed. We know the standards covered, but mtg with those Ts could allow a share of S common strengths and weaknesses instead of figuring it out by trial and error #5thchat
    In reply to @MrBaskwill
  • DebLibby534 Nov 21 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Hello, everyone. Although we do have a common prep, we don’t spend time planning together. I’m starting this process on my own. #5thchat
  • hartel30 Nov 21 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3 No vertical time. But have tried at times to get a member of other teams to sit in. Nothing routine though. #5thchat
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:24 PM EST
    #5thchat A3: No vertical planning. Have done some in the past. It helps Ts become forward planners. Having open, honest discussions amongst grade levels makes a schools program more effective.
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3 Great question! We do have the opportunity to hold spiral discussions. which helps us maintain existing successful strategies & also to see how the curriculum is aligned. Where they've been and need to go. Plus fresh ideas! #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3 vertical planning is awesome! Gives you an insight of what Ss know prior to coming to you and need to know when leaving #5thchat
  • mmdetrick Nov 21 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3: A3: No official time. However, my intermediate team does share out -especially about writing pieces for Ss growth. #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Question 4 #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3 we have monthly articulation and can meet vertically when needed. #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:27 PM EST
    That’s OK be the change you want to see! #5thchat
    In reply to @DebLibby534
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A4: I think sharing is key, keeping your room and ideas open to others #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A4 we need to include others. Share with other grade levels. Discuss ideas and struggles too. #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Loving all the insightful dialogue so far #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4 it’s difficult to not become a clique, esp at such a big school. We spend a LOT of energy team building and we get close. #5thchat
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:30 PM EST
    #5thchat A4: Short answer: Always stay focused on what's best for students. Their needs keep us humble. If Ts become cliquish with each other, they usually don't have good relationships with their students.
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4 It’s easy to exclude. Being conscientious of & intentionallly including others is the hard part (for some) #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4 ?s arose. When do you find the time to share with other grade levels? How do you do it without coming across as needy or bragging? #5thchat
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:31 PM EST
    I do :) From time to time some come in, but I feel lots ask, but find it hard to follow through in the course of a reg day #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • mmdetrick Nov 21 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: Work on different committees w/other Grade Levels. Support your school’s extracurricular activities-BBgames, plays, concerts, robotics etc... #5thchat Get to know people in your building! 😎
  • hartel30 Nov 21 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Hate to run but bath time for baby. Gr8 topic. Thanks for letting me sit in. #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4 Stay open, seek other opinions and input, and always keep that door open literally...if you can. When people come in to share something, make sure they feel welcome to do so. #5thchat #IHateCliques
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4 Good question. Ask about cool things you see going on in other’s rooms, partner up on projects across grades, interact w/ their social media #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Question 5 #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I co-teach with dozens of teachers and I find sharing ideas and resources is usually welcomed. #5thchat
    In reply to @Nikcal88
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A5 Communication, communication, communication! Conflict will always be there, it's our reaction that we can control to help us move forward and do what's best for our students. #5thchat
  • MicheleCMueller Nov 21 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Do you document this? Shared Google Docs? I am looking to start building a document of writing skills necessary for 3-5th, but thinking about the best way to get started. #5thchat
    In reply to @mmdetrick
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5 conflict is best handled right away, not ignoring the situation. Talk it out 1-1 or as a group if necessary. Remember that it’s IDEAS we are conflicting with and not PEOPLE. #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5 that’s TOUGH! But you have to get over it. It’s about the kids. The ultimate goal is their growth. #5thchat
  • mmdetrick Nov 21 @ 8:36 PM EST
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A5: Distance...usually if there is a conflict the parties just tend to walk away and go with the agree to disagree model #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:36 PM EST
    I know. We don’t have time to meet with others so our team building is during our meetings. It’s not meant to alienate anyone, but to bring people in. I really appreciate being pushed on this thought #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:37 PM EST
    That’s great! I’m happy to announce that those that I️ get to work with always welcome my thoughts ideas suggestions. #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning, @Nikcal88
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:38 PM EST
    😂😂😂😂😂 PERFECT! #5thchat
    In reply to @mmdetrick
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Question 6 #5thchat
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:40 PM EST
    #5thchat A5: Definitely depends on personalities...some overcome conflict while others throw themselves on a island...in my experience.
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A6 another tough one bc of time constraints. Monthly would be ideal. #5thchat
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5 It’s rare. We all have autonomy in our classrooms & no one person on the team calls the shots, so no reason to argue! #5thchat
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6: I am not sure how often, our school has annual goal which get visited periodically throughout the year #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6 We meet every 2 weeks with our principal, reading spec, and rest of the team to go over data and strategize on any changes we need to make. #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A6 our admin is almost always present at our meetings. It’s helpful bc she always knows what’s going on, has ideas to share, and its never weird that she’s there. #5thchat
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:43 PM EST
    #5thchat A6: Personally I would like to meet with my Adm every month. It's easier to clarify in person. Having admins at every grade level mtg inhibits some personalities and realness.
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A6 At least once/quarter, on designated PD days, not during school #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Depends on what we're discussing. We discuss individual students as we look at each skill and look at the intervention planned. We also look at the whole group as we discuss whole group plans/lessons. #5thchat
    In reply to @Mr_F_Learning
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Question 7 #5thchat
  • mmdetrick Nov 21 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A6: 🤔 Monthly? (Could be online chat) It’s important to be in front of data and goals to provide growth for Ss and differentiation. Ts and P should be on same page. #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A7 tough ? Our school is pretty intense; it takes a good 2-3 years to get somewhat comfortable. Change is good for T and Ss. Maybe every 5 Years? #5thchat
  • mmdetrick Nov 21 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A7: Loop? #5thchat
  • Nikcal88 Nov 21 @ 8:50 PM EST
    I love the idea of an online slow chat to discuss data. Very cool thought!! My mind is racing with possibilities! #5thchat
    In reply to @mmdetrick
  • Teachintjay Nov 21 @ 8:52 PM EST
    #5thchat A7: Are you talking moving Ts to other grade levels! If so, I feel it depends on individual Ts. I prefer to change every 4-5 years because I get bored. However, I know some who have taught same grade for 20 years who are phenomenal.
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7 Would be a luxury to get to choose to transition. Staffing changes usually based on class size #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7-1 on one hand you develop experts in a particular are and grade level which is good for the Ss and for Ts growth #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7-2 on the other hand you can potentially become stagnant or too comfortable which hinders both Ss and Ts growth. #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Question 8 #5thchat
  • MrBaskwill Nov 21 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A7: I like staying at the same level. I get comfortable with material and find new ways to deliver the content #5thchat
  • 4XSoccermom Nov 21 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A7 LOL never!! I love my team and my grade level. 😬 #5thchat
  • ElemCoach Nov 21 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A7-3 For this reason, after a period of 5 years for some a fresh start might be wonderful BUT it needs to be a smooth transition #5thchat
  • shammanaj Nov 21 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A8 We can’t departmentalize unless we are certified as a subj-area specialist by the state (Title I rule). I prefer self-contained anyway #5thchat
  • Mr_F_Learning Nov 21 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you to all who participated in this weeks #5thchat Consider the conversations we had this evening to help facilitate positive change for your schools and students.