#IDedchat Archive

This is a chat for Idaho Educators and anyone else who wants to join the conversation. Topic for 6/20: Reflective Practices

Wednesday December 12, 2018
10:00 PM EST

  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:00 PM EST
    It's 8:00! Time for #IDedchat - a weekly chat for Idaho Edus, and anyone else who wants to join the convo! #TeachNVchat #IDcoachnet
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:01 PM EST
    I'm Janet Avery, Curriculum Director in Jerome, and your moderator this evening. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:01 PM EST
    If you haven't yet done so, please take a moment and introduce yourself to the #IDedchat PLN - even if you are just lurking. :-)
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Dan, business teacher from St. Louis. #idedchat
  • KariWardle Dec 12 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Kari Wardle. Teacher ambassador with IdahoPTV. In and out between putting my son to bed and homework. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Hi Kari! Long time no see! :-) Glad you made it this evening!. #IDedchat
    In reply to @KariWardle
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Hi Dan! Congratulations again on your huge accomplishment of completing you doctorate last week! #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Thank you! It was a memorable day for sure. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Hi. Kevin from Indianapolis, Indiana. I teach biology and physics. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Hi Kevin! Glad to see you this evening! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:06 PM EST
    What are you studying? #IDedchat
    In reply to @KariWardle
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Let's get this party started! #IDedchat
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:07 PM EST
    Lisa Lande w the Quaglia Institute and mom of 3 students in Idaho schools! #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:07 PM EST
    Q1: What is sequencing? Why is it important when planning lessons/units? #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:07 PM EST
    HI Lisa! So glad you made it tonight! #IDedchat
    In reply to @Lisa_Lande
  • leadedtech Dec 12 @ 10:08 PM EST
    Hey #idedchat I'm just a lurking Tech Dir from the panhandle. What are y'all chatting about tonight?
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:08 PM EST
    Hi Simon! We are chatting about sequencing and scaffolding of lessons. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @leadedtech
  • leadedtech Dec 12 @ 10:09 PM EST
    Awesome! Sounds like I will let the other #idedchat peeps make me smarter tonight! Who needs to sleep at a Holiday Inn Express when you can #Idedchat ?
    In reply to @averyteach
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1: To me, sequencing is the order in which you go about your lessons and have one concept tie into another from day to day. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:09 PM EST
    R1: The order we supply students with information. It’s important because it helps build background knowledge for our Ss so they can retain info. Problem is that sequencing for one teacher can be different than another. Hurts when Ss switch classes at semester #IDedchat
  • goodn3rd Dec 12 @ 10:12 PM EST
    A1 sense of out when sequence Your don't! lessons make #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:12 PM EST
    A1: The "official" definition of sequencing: Organizing several lessons together to plan for smooth transitions... #IDedchat
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:12 PM EST
    A1 The way by which we continually build knowledge in an order that makes sense to students. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:13 PM EST
    Ummmm.... #IDedchat
    In reply to @goodn3rd
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:13 PM EST
    "TIe together" - I like that. :-) #IDedchat
    • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:09 PM EST
      A1: To me, sequencing is the order in which you go about your lessons and have one concept tie into another from day to day. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:13 PM EST
    wasn't too far off! lol. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • slwindisch Dec 12 @ 10:14 PM EST
    #IDedchat
    In reply to @goodn3rd
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:14 PM EST
    Tell us a little more about how sequencing can help build background - what strategies do you use to do this? #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:15 PM EST
    Why are you at a Holiday Inn Express?? #IDedchat
    In reply to @leadedtech
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:16 PM EST
    Continually build knowledge - and I think we need to consider "gradual release of responsibility" as we turn the learning over to students. #IDedchat
    • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:12 PM EST
      A1 The way by which we continually build knowledge in an order that makes sense to students. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:16 PM EST
    Great point about different sequencing amongst same courses. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • goodn3rd Dec 12 @ 10:17 PM EST
    A1.5 Sequencing is just looking at the end, then the time you have, then the skill levels you will work with, and then some ninja mental stuff and *poof* sequence...that you'll take notes on and make better next time. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:18 PM EST
    So, let’s say I am talking about organelles in biology. I let Ss know about the nucleus, ribosomes, endoplasmic reticulum. Well, now talking about DNA and RNA, these same organelles play a role in DNA replication and protein synthesis. #IDEdchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:18 PM EST
    Q2: What are some of the most important considerations to make when sequencing a lesson or unit? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:19 PM EST
    R2: how does the content fit what Ss need to know. How does this info build. Is it building the foundation first or the roof first? #IDedchat
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:20 PM EST
    Q2 What makes the most sense to students and their thoughts on the sequence of learning. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:20 PM EST
    You would think I know what I’m teaching after reading this. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:20 PM EST
    A2: Considering all of the different learners in your classroom and making sure that all learners are ready to move on. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A2: What are the intended learning outcomes, What do learners already know, what do they need to know, what are the building blocks to get them there... #IDedchat
  • goodn3rd Dec 12 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A2 Sequencing is baking. Miss a step or substitute bran in for chocolate chips and there will be a rebellion. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:22 PM EST
    I often use this saying, “you can build a beautiful palace; but if the foundation is poor, the palace crumbles!” Your foundation is your start point. It builds and builds. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:24 PM EST
    Q3: What is scaffolding, and why is it important when lesson planning? #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A3: I always picture painters when I think of scaffolding - those supports that help you reach heights you can't reach on your own. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A3: Scaffolding is when teachers model or demonstrate how to get to the end result. #idedchat
  • leadedtech Dec 12 @ 10:27 PM EST
    I'm not. And thanks to #idedchat i don't need to be! https://t.co/1CrlODz5UU
    In reply to @averyteach
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:27 PM EST
    And teachers are the platforms and rungs to lift up the students to their highest potential. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A3: Scaffolding helps give learners different "entry points" into content - helps meet the student where they are to get them where they need to be. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:27 PM EST
    R3: scaffolding is how you build on content. It is different for different ability levels for Ss. Look at what Ss know and build on their levels. Differentiated instruction #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A3: Ss can self-scaffold where they build off of their own prior knowledge to help them move higher in their education. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:29 PM EST
    R3: how will I challenge ALL LEARNERS. As @averyteach said, it helps Ss reach heights they never thought they could. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:29 PM EST
    OMG - I was just typing this exact thing! :-) #IDedchat
    • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:28 PM EST
      A3: Ss can self-scaffold where they build off of their own prior knowledge to help them move higher in their education. #idedchat
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:30 PM EST
    A3: Weak scaffolding can crumble quickly...it must be intentionally & solidly structured to proved the intended support necessary for learning that will last. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:30 PM EST
    #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:30 PM EST
    Q4: How do you prevent over-scaffolding lessons? How do you balance discovery and productive struggle with support? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:31 PM EST
    You Drs... #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:31 PM EST
    Agreed! Tell us a little more about what you mean Lisa! #IDedchat
    In reply to @Lisa_Lande
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:33 PM EST
    R4: I may be oversimplifying this, but I kind of put Ss into Tier 1-3. Kind of RtI-ish with it. You don’t have to blow things up for every single S. If you over scaffold, Ts will burn out. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:33 PM EST
    A4: There needs to be a balance of self discovery, learning new material, and reinforcing what they already know. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:34 PM EST
    A4: The type of scaffolding, or lack of scaffolding, can change depending upon where in the sequence of the lesson you are. ... 'I do..we do...I do...we do..you do...we do... we do.. you do... you do. :-) #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:34 PM EST
    RTI is very helpful for the students when it is used effectively. #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:35 PM EST
    The gradual release does play a huge part in the scaffolding. Hard to move on when you are on the "I do" phase. #idedchat.
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:36 PM EST
    I would agree. It is important to remember that not every student will need scaffolds - in fact, it can actually inhibit learning to give scaffolds when unnecessary. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    Absolutely. And when Ss begin doing the "you do" phase, you need to monitor and adjust when to pull some back into "we do together."..but let others fly. #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    Exactly. Thats where as a teacher we can go through and monitor the process and figure out if it is ok to trudge on, or slow things down and take more time. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:39 PM EST
    Flexible due dates as well. #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD, @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A4: That balance of scaffolding - and still allowing for productive struggle is key to student learning. Without that "productive" struggle, learning doesn't transfer. #IDedchat BUT if the struggle gets too frustrating, some support needs to happen.
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:40 PM EST
    Q5: How do you work to incorporate student voice in decisions about sequencing and scaffolding? #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A5: many times I can do it based on body language and how they are reacting in the classroom. If needed, I make sure to ask their opinions. I am constantly asking "what questions do you have?" #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:42 PM EST
    A5: I saw an article the other day about the fact that we are always assessing how students are doing...but we forget to ASK them how they are doing. :-) #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    Love the way you phrased that - "What questions do you have?" instead of "Do you have any questions?" I learned that during cognitive coaching - and use it all the time! #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A5: Think of learning & scaffolding like a Choose Your Own Adventure Book!! Let students decide where to go next! #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:44 PM EST
    R5: kind of an old school thought, but you can give a pre-test. Or you can do a KWL sheet over a subject. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    And it was planned before I even knew you would be here! :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @Lisa_Lande
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    That would definitely tell you ... you give you a sense of what students already know! KWLs are a great strategy! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A5: When we can build inquiry into sequencing (with some scaffolds built in) it can add choice to the learning. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:48 PM EST
    Q6: What are some examples of scaffolding strategies you have used that were successful (or that weren't)? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    R6: add a tech piece to the inquiry. @Flipgrid or @WeVideo the KWL. Have Ss share their thoughts with an authentic audience. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    SO much YES here! #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:50 PM EST
    I’ll add my comment about @Flipgrid and @WeVideo here... #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @Flipgrid, @WeVideo
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:50 PM EST
    A6: *when it didn't work* by assuming they were ready to move on or assuming that they knew the martial necessary to move on. #whoops #idedchat
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A6: Thinking about how important it is that we we consider effective scaffolding w adult leaning/PD. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:52 PM EST
    Yes - scaffolding is just as important for learners - of ANY age. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @Lisa_Lande
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A6: Using Thinking Maps (or other graphic organizers) to help students organize ideas...take notes...etc. For some the ideas may be words, for some they may be pictures. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A6: I built different levels of graphic organizers for storyboarding that I used with seniors. Some of them had a little more detailed information to help them start their narrative, others had less detailed. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:55 PM EST
    How about having a shared Google Doc that every S has access to and shares their ideas. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:55 PM EST
    Love that idea! #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    I was building those graphic organizers pre Google Doc days. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • leadedtech Dec 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    I'm in favor of anything involving a Google Doc, students taking control of their learning, collaborating... I say yes. #IdEdChAt
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @averyteach
  • Lisa_Lande Dec 12 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A7: Constant spiraling of learning...coming back to concepts we have covered & might ‘assume’ are mastered. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Dec 12 @ 10:58 PM EST
    This was a great chat tonight. Glad I stayed up and engaged for this. Hope you all have a great end to December. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:58 PM EST
    Wow - great ideas shared again tonight! As @Lisa_Lande mentioned - I need to remember these ideas as I plan professional development activities for staff. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Dec 12 @ 10:59 PM EST
    Thanks to each of you for taking time to come together to learn from and with each other! #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Dec 12 @ 10:59 PM EST
    Thanks for a fantastic chat tonight @averyteach . Everyone have a great rest of your week. 7 more days of school #idedchat