#ksedchat Archive

Thank you for visiting #ksedchat. We welcome all educators to our chat that runs Mondays at 8 p.m. Central. Though many of our educators have their homes in Kansas, all teachers are welcome to pop in and join in on the learning.

Monday February 20, 2017
9:00 PM EST

  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to Week 3 of #PBLPalooza at #ksedchat! Tonight we are talking about #pbl in the elementary grades!
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Here we go! Time for introductions! Tell us who you are, where you're from, and what you do! #ksedchat
  • participatechat Feb 20 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #ksedchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/vhusr5knZ1
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Hi friends! Tim. Frontenac. 5th grade Before you log off your computer tonight, buy a #ksedchat t-shirt! PLEASE!! https://t.co/YSKftxU9Sn
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:01 PM EST
    I'm Katie Perez, an edu consultant @ESSDACK. My primary focus is helping Ts implement #pbl and #ngss! #ksedchat
    In reply to @ESSDACK
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:01 PM EST
    #ksedchat Deb Hornbeck. 5th/6th PE. Garden City
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Good evening! I am Brandi, instructional coach. Hope everyone had a great day! #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Amanda, 3rd f/Ness #usd303 It's going to be an awesome night!! #ksedchat
    • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:00 PM EST
      Here we go! Time for introductions! Tell us who you are, where you're from, and what you do! #ksedchat
  • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Hey guys! Gena 1st grade...hoping some #345tweets people show up, it was advertised today at PD I think! #ksedchat
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Happy Monday!! Dena Dellere from Oakley, KS (Oakley USD 274). I have the honor to be our District Technologist! #ksedchat
  • slobodzianm Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Michelle, I teach English at Turner HS. #ksedchat
  • LaBarberaGlenda Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #ksedchat Glenda LaBarbera @USD457 sped coord.
    In reply to @USD457
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Erika Cooper 2nd grade teacher in Shawnee. I am excited to be back #ksedchat it's been awhile!
  • Gorillagirlie Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Bayley from Iola, first grade! Primary is my jam! #ksedchat
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jennifer from Dodge City here! I teach 4th grade. Can't wait to get my shirt! #ksedchat
  • PeytonWydickRU Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hey! Peyton from Pittsburg,KS. Coming at you from my dorm in KC,MO! Preservice elementary teacher. #ksedchat
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Traci 1st grade in Andover #ksedchat
  • aboone_angie Feb 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Angie Boone middle school sped teacher, Cheney #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Brian McDavitt, Instructional Tech Specialist for @HMSANTAFE in KCMO #ksedchat
    In reply to @HMSANTAFE
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Good evening! Randall Rank from Buhler, fifth grade teacher. #ksedchat
  • JaneCulver5 - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Jane here from Dodge City! #ksedchat
  • MrsStarkweather Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello! Morgan Starkweather, teaching 1st grade for Buhler #ksedchat
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Carmen from McPherson! Teach 5th grade #ksedchat
  • EducateNate16 Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    This is becoming a Monday tradition! #ksedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Feb 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Brant MS Principal Wyoming #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Brian Quick, 6th grade in Shawnee Mission. #ksedchat
  • rbharder Feb 20 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Rachel- 4th grade in Hesston. Hoping bedtime goes a bit smoother than the last few nights. #ksedchat
  • MrsWarren_RM121 Feb 20 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hello #ksedchat Kara 6th gr T from Hutchinson. In and out tonight as I pack for #PLC conference tomorrow!
  • kneiman Feb 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Kelly Neiman, USD 345, Topeka, Journalism teacher #ksedchat
  • LauraGilchrist4 - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hello #ksedchat! I'm in the car..not driving πŸ‘ŠπŸΌπŸ€£ but about to. I had the distinct pleasure of being in @perezhasclass #STEAM #metc17 sesh!πŸ‘πŸΌ
    In reply to @perezhasclass
  • CobbKimmi Feb 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    4th grade math and science teacher in Topeka #ksedchat
  • JaneCulver5 - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Thank you so much! Gonna be a tough week this week! So need to see my kiddos! #ksedchat
    In reply to @rbharder
  • EducateNate16 Feb 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Nate Eidson, Math Instructional Coach at USD 457! #ksedchat
  • EduGladiators Feb 20 @ 9:06 PM EST
    πŸ’»#EduGladiators LIVE Podcast HAPPENING NOW! EMPOWER Ts/Parent dynamic w/@cdmveep ⏯https://t.co/g1e34qnlUI #ksedchat #TeacherEdChat #UMCOEd
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Q1: This question has two branches depending on if you've been with us the previous two weeks or not! #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: #pbl allows Ss to engage in meaningful learning through their hands, heads, and hearts #ksedchat
  • swehkamp1 Feb 20 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi, can't wait to hear your thoughts tonight #ksedchat.
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #ksedchat Q1 The journey is where the learning takes place.
  • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1 - I'd love to learn more about Project based learning -- learning through projects not just a cumul. project. #ksedchat
  • JillWebs Feb 20 @ 9:08 PM EST
    #ksedchat Jill from Cheney here...Popping in and out depending of when I fall asleep. Product but long day! :)
  • PeytonWydickRU Feb 20 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 #PBL allows learning through hands on experience & allows the Ss to use passion to drive them #ksedchat
    • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Q1: This question has two branches depending on if you've been with us the previous two weeks or not! #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: student engagement increases and they usually impress me with what they come up with. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: It's becoming clear that there are some awesome Ts in KS that I want to observe doing #pbl! #ksedchat
    • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Q1: This question has two branches depending on if you've been with us the previous two weeks or not! #ksedchat
  • karalu79 Feb 20 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Sorry for being late #ksedchat! I blame my husband for distracting me with old Top Gear episodes! lol Kara, HS Sci, SW KS
  • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: we need TONS more PD on how to do this in the right way,we talk about it but dont get much guidance, so this will be helpful #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 #PBL is possible, and, in my opinion, vital to making learning "stick" at even young ages #ksedchat
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 it's all about exploration and letting go #ksedchat #pbl
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: student choices and ownership in learning starts to evolve. #ksedchat
  • slobodzianm Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: PBL is a quest for the S to achieve a deeper thought process &create something that can be related to real world experience. #ksedchat
    • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Q1: This question has two branches depending on if you've been with us the previous two weeks or not! #ksedchat
  • JillWebs Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: Learning to let go of the control of the various aspects of a project. Allowing the SS to learn content through doing. #ksedchat
  • coachmragsdale Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Michael Ragsdale, USD 345, SPED teacher #ksedchat
  • MrsWarren_RM121 Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: #pbl is messy, you have to be willing to take risks and it's ok to fail, that's how we learn. #ksedchat
  • AssignmentHelpN Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #ksedchat #luthed #msmathchat #teacheredchat #tlap #tntechchat Experts on E-learning & EdTech Trends for 2017 https://t.co/I9aiwWWsrV
  • karalu79 Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    .@mrvesco It is true! lol Thanks! Glad to be here! :D #ksedchat
    In reply to @mrvesco
  • KSTeacherMrE Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 Jonathan from Salina. Where the product is the end result, not a test score #ksedchat
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 PBL is a true integration of curriculum that allows Ss to explore content through hands on learning with the T as a guide. #ksedchat
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Jill took the words right out of my mouth. #ksedchat
    • JillWebs Feb 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1: Learning to let go of the control of the various aspects of a project. Allowing the SS to learn content through doing. #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A big takeaway to PBL for me is the student empowerment aspect. PBL must be focused, no matter how creative, must be purposeful. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    True for teachers and students! #ksedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    a1. You have to be careful not to turn Ss loose to early. Takes some getting used to, for sure. #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1) In elementary, have ability to cover many content standards through one PBL experience & bring in civic & employability skills #ksedchat
  • MrReedsscience Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    The outcomes need to be clear before the project begins. Ss may have a diff project for interest but the end goal should be same #ksedchat
  • karalu79 Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: PBL gives students a voice and allows them to take the drivers seat - but in a safe space! #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    It creates a necessity of knowledge - giving Ss a chance to see why what they learn matters #ksedchat
    In reply to @debh_stones
  • DavidDayII82 Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #ksedchat dropping my baby off at the airport to head back home. Won't be on tonight! Fighting a cold too!!! Have fun!!!
  • coachmragsdale Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Student centered project where students acquire a deeper knowledge through exploration of real-world challenges and problems #ksedchat
  • Gudde620 Feb 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Eric Gudde from Frontenac HS. Joining a little late. I'll be in and out but will try to absorb it all! #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I like this! #ksedchat
    • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1 PBL is a true integration of curriculum that allows Ss to explore content through hands on learning with the T as a guide. #ksedchat
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:12 PM EST
  • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: PBL seems more conducive to science and social studies? Correct me if I'm wrong #ksedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Feb 20 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Can't beat the authenticity :) #ksedchat
    • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1 PBL is a true integration of curriculum that allows Ss to explore content through hands on learning with the T as a guide. #ksedchat
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: More of this in our classrooms! #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Q2 is coming! #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Q2: Let's talk pros and cons! #ksedchat
  • JillWebs Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I have an idea brewing...Resurrecting an old proj & going to see if I can "turn it PBL" w/ some minor changes πŸ˜‹ #ksedchat
    In reply to @perezhasclass
  • SandyRempel Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Late!!! Sandy, K teacher from Buhler. #ksedchat
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I believe this, but struggle with how with young Ss who aren't independent & non-readers #ksedchat
    • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1 PBL is a true integration of curriculum that allows Ss to explore content through hands on learning with the T as a guide. #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    First time I tried it was in reading... but easy to adapt to social studies and science #ksedchat
    • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A1: PBL seems more conducive to science and social studies? Correct me if I'm wrong #ksedchat
  • slobodzianm Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I have completed 1 #pbl in my English CR and creating another right now! It is amazing! #oneword2017 #ksedchat
    In reply to @genamarie33
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #ksedchat Right on, Brian! Ss need to know their learning is important! Real world learning!
  • PeytonWydickRU Feb 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A2 some Ss may not learn best through #pbl. I was totally one of those kids...that's changing more now that I'm in college! #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: Pros: engagement increases, learning sticks, true application of content, fosters an intrinsic reward for learning #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:15 PM EST
    It definitely works with those subjects, but it's even better when you wrap sci and ss into math and ELA with #PBL #ksedchat
    In reply to @genamarie33
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 the messy part is hard at times! Sometimes others SEE: CHAOTIC. Struggle explaining to others at times! #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: Pros: honors the strengths of each S while scaffolding areas where growth is needed, builds & strengthens 21st century skills #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: + are deeper learning and increased engagement. - it's tough to give up some of the control and let students go. #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2) #PBL Advantages- Student driven, engaging, cover many standards, relevant, easily ties into real world #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Engagement and "life-long learner" skills attained are advantages! Right now my con is time management #storyofmylife #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    I agree. It requires more scaffolding. You are teaching them process of #PBL - it's a culture as much as a strategy #ksedchat
    In reply to @Woods1stgrade
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2. Pros-giving Ss opportunities to explore and become intuitive learners. Cons-sometimes you gotta hit those basic skills. #ksedchat
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: Pros: Builds those life long learning skills when kids can see how it relates to real life. #ksedchat
  • karalu79 Feb 20 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: Pros: Can hit several standards at once. Cons: Lot more work for everyone. (Some say they don't have time for that) #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Cons: change is can be hard on both the Ts & Ss, creating dynamic driving Qs takes practice, not as cut and dry to grade, time #ksedchat
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #ksedchat #New #PBL to me is when Ss are in charge of their learning #InquiryBased lots #Research and not a lot of guidance.
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: pros: engagement , Ss truly learn, fun, soft skills #ksedchat
  • slobodzianm Feb 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #PerfectWorld combining all subjects together for one project! How cool would this be if every HS did this? #ksedchat
    • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:15 PM EST
      It definitely works with those subjects, but it's even better when you wrap sci and ss into math and ELA with #PBL #ksedchat
      In reply to @genamarie33
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I find that it's more work up front but less work to maintain. #ksedchat
    In reply to @karalu79
  • aboone_angie Feb 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: learning takes place during, not before #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Disadvantages would be material costs for schools of varying SES. Advantages are so numerous they offset the disadvantages! #ksedchat
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I have the culture just not always sure it's true pbl #ksedchat
    In reply to @bmcd25
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Pros of #pbl are authenticity, flexibility, self-differentiation of learning, and increase in rigor/relevance/engagement #ksedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Feb 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    a2. Pro - The hook grabs em! Con - Student projects can get a little stretched out. Have to provide some hard deadlines. #ksedchat
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: What do you say to the teacher who says that test scores will suffer because of a shift to PBL? #ksedchat
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 Pros-cover several standards at once and S ownership of learning.Cons-primary Ss still need to practice foundational skills. #ksedchat
  • karalu79 Feb 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    I would agree...but try convincing some others of that! lol I think it's really just scary to give up control... #ksedchat
    In reply to @jmill517
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: Cons definitely in the planning and grading time until you get started and use more regular. Rubrics are key and sharing! #ksedchat
  • KSTeacherMrE Feb 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: βž• students become more part of the lesson planning. βž–: potential loss of structure for students w/ exceptionalities #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Totally agree about the advantages! I basically used cardboard for every project that needed prototypes, etc. #ksedchat
    In reply to @QuickSMSD
  • GeimanELA Feb 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #PBL cons r Ss that struggle w/ focusing can b overwhelmed with to many "moving parts" + r Ss can. E creative and show themselves #ksedchat
  • karalu79 Feb 20 @ 9:20 PM EST
    It's the out-of-class effort on the Ts part - I think it's really more of a fear of giving up control. #ksedchat
    In reply to @DDellere
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I hear that. The chat with @GingerLewman on the continuum of PBL 2 wks ago really helped me with this thinking. #ksedchat
    In reply to @Woods1stgrade, @GingerLewman
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Student engagement is the biggest PRO! #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    "It's worth it in the end" is what I tell myself, but I have a supportive admin. #ksedchat
  • JillWebs Feb 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Working on creating a driving ?, basically Ss will be creating "historic reality TV shows" on topic of choice #ksedchat
    In reply to @perezhasclass
  • coachmragsdale Feb 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: Seeks to better prepare students for solving real-world problems while teaching them what they need to know to succeed. #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I think it takes a lot of modeling.For every #PBL, I aligned standards being addressed before started to help others see #KSedchat
    In reply to @mrvesco
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
  • PrincipalNyberg Feb 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    It is a great way to reach "tough" kids. #ksedchat
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    #ksedchat Pros: Ss are empowered and are in charge. Learn #Grit and #hardwork CONS: Ss might not have necessary skills to work on their own
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 biggest con of #pbl is time - fitting it into school structure as well as teaching elem Ss to manage time #ksedchat
  • EducateNate16 Feb 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: I think more time and commitment to a project helps students invest more and show more effort. #ksedchat
  • aboone_angie Feb 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: I think that some content needs direct instruction from teacher at elem level, same with sped #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: Take time to reflect with Ss after each project to discuss their successes, challenges, and growth. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: Think about how you group Ss! Allowing some S choice in group mates helps scaffold the collaboration aspect in the beginning. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    @mrvesco I show them my intentionally planned pbl with driving question, skills, and standards outlined. Then invite them in. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Besides normal scaffolding we do as Ts, instruction in growth mindset has been great for my Ss! #ksedchat
  • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    a3: I' starting Wonder Workshop (genius hour) in my class this week..makes me nervous with so much happening, but Ss learn so much #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3 Constant feedback on the processes of problem solving and design thinking #ksedchat
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3. I do a lot of small things before we dive in 100%. I'm also not opposed to giving directions when Ss get off course #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3) Set clear expectations. Constantly checked in. Also, recapped each day. Had individual conferences when needed #ksedchat
  • PeytonWydickRU Feb 20 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3 Don't just throw Ss into it. Provide guidance & support. Check in with them often. Have a purpose behind it #ksedchat
  • GeimanELA Feb 20 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A: Scaffolding checkpoints into your room/ lesson for Ss 2 ask ?s allowing them to take ownership in their learning #ksedchat
  • swehkamp1 Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A.1-Don't have a preconceived idea of the finished project-never know where a creative mind will travel.#ksedchat
  • RCslybacon Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Any feedback on this book? Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain https://t.co/1pYsEN0JJz #ksedchat
  • genamarie33 Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: With Wonder Workshop, they are motivated bc they are learning what about what's important to them. The self start is natural #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3 modeling is huge, trust with guidance - don't be afraid to step in and redirect, but don't take over either. Let them mess up! #ksedchat
  • JillWebs Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    They have to pitch the concept to a panel of guest judges who are part of the community. #ksedchat
    In reply to @bmcd25, @perezhasclass
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: start small, one thing at a time and repeated opportunities , then add more #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: in my experience...1st go round tends to be rough with some of Ss results. Better stuff shows as year goes on. Cont w/ support #ksedchat
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3 I think having Ss keep a journal and provide reflections along the way. AND ask them constantly what they think is working #ksedchat
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #ksedchat A3 the obvious answer is differentiation amd startingout in groups, pairs and then individual
  • GeimanELA Feb 20 @ 9:26 PM EST
    starting small is the key! #ksedchat
    In reply to @Woods1stgrade
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #ksedchat A3 I think when students have a choice, they take more ownership. Success is a great motivator!
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I always made it clear there would be an alternative assignment if they couldn't handle it that wasn't as fun. This allways worked #ksedchat
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Took the words out of my mouth! #ksedchat
    • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
      A3 I think having Ss keep a journal and provide reflections along the way. AND ask them constantly what they think is working #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Good point. Can't stop doing it just b/c the first one is difficult #ksedchat
    In reply to @Rantime
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Definitely start with small short-term projects. #ksedchat
    • PeytonWydickRU Feb 20 @ 9:24 PM EST
      A3 Don't just throw Ss into it. Provide guidance & support. Check in with them often. Have a purpose behind it #ksedchat
  • tmwill14 Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Point out to them the steps you have witnessed them take, use their success as evidence of growth and independence, praise them #ksedchat
  • MrReedsscience Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3. Start small first then work towards bigger projects. Monitor progress often. Ss learn self directed learning, not assume I. #ksedchat
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 We use a planning calendar to help us know how long we have to work on the project and set small goals throughout! #ksedchat
  • SandyRempel Feb 20 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Give me some suggestions for PBL's for Littles...(K). #ksedchat
  • Lindsay71978084 Feb 20 @ 9:28 PM EST
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Don't be discouraged by the results of your first #pbl! #ksedchat
    • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
      A3: in my experience...1st go round tends to be rough with some of Ss results. Better stuff shows as year goes on. Cont w/ support #ksedchat
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:28 PM EST
    yes!! I love using @KidblogDotOrg for student reflections #ksedchat
    In reply to @DDellere, @KidblogDotOrg
  • MrsSkyDavis Feb 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I ordered mine tonight! 😎 IEP paperwork has been significantly reducing my #ksedchat time😒
    In reply to @mrvesco
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    sound associations for letters. .. could have pictures pre chosen and Ss select from that pile. #ksedchat
    In reply to @SandyRempel
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    If everyone who is participating in #ksedchat tonight bought a t-shirt, we would have over $500 for #DonorsChoose! https://t.co/YSKftxU9Sn
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q4: Half-way point of the evening already!?!? #ksedchat
  • swehkamp1 Feb 20 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Set schedules, check on progress frequently, start small for your sake as well as students. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Never underestimate the power of praise and reflection on student learning and confidence! #ksedchat
    • tmwill14 Feb 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
      A3 Point out to them the steps you have witnessed them take, use their success as evidence of growth and independence, praise them #ksedchat
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: science/SS time comes to mind & we leave time on fridays for steam projects #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3 In 3rd/4th, I treated #PBL as one giant "center". I pulled small groups while my Ss worked on their pbl for the unit #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4: Launch projects in SS/Sci, let the research spill into literacy and math time. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Make it a center? also don't "pack up" at the end of the day. They do it at the bell. It's amazing what can get done in 30 min. #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4 PBL very possible in all core subjects. Think of demonstrating math - building, designing, area, perimeter, be an architect! #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4) Explicitly teach the skill, but have them apply it meaningful way. Seen kids gain more meaning because they saw purpose #ksedchat
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4: Social Studies and Science I find are so ideal for #PBL! I am playing around with a Newberry Award Book PBL! #ksedchat
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4. I find it hardest to go PBL during math time. I have so much to cover, I can't do them often. #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4 I also used backwards design and worded my driving questions in a way that they would hit the reading skills for that unit #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4 cont. ELA is where I do my second most PBL aside from science. Lots of PBL assessing vs. regular old tests. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:33 PM EST
    If it's a priority, a person finds time. Sometimes we just have to get creative! #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4: definitely valuable during science and social studies. We have band time at the end of the day too. #ksedchat
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #ksedchat A4 My answer is always art. Primary and art go together like #soybeans and #Rhizobia
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Ooh I would love some math ideas, my Ss love ❀️ math this year , 1st grade #ksedchat
    • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
      A4 PBL very possible in all core subjects. Think of demonstrating math - building, designing, area, perimeter, be an architect! #ksedchat
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    #ksedchat A4 My principal is looking at an integration block next year combining ELA and Science/Ss time to provide more time for PBL units!
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Not about PBL, but this quote is just amazing! Had to share! #ksedchat
    • soulpancake Feb 20 @ 9:33 PM EST
      If you feel like miracles don't exist. You're forgetting that YOU are one.
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I agree with you! BUT I wonder if we did give time if Ss would synthesis the math concepts more? #ksedchat
    In reply to @jmill517
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I was never sure my math projects were "real PBL", they were always shorter term and narrowed focus #ksedchat
    In reply to @jmill517
  • EducateNate16 Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4: I've always thought social studies lends itself well to projects and PBL. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    This worked great for me too! Especially bc I had a good para in the room at the time. #ksedchat
    • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
      A3 In 3rd/4th, I treated #PBL as one giant "center". I pulled small groups while my Ss worked on their pbl for the unit #ksedchat
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 Center time comes to mind. You might drive a topic around Internet Safety and bring in so many standards for every subject. #ksedchat
  • CobbKimmi Feb 20 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Science would be a perfect time to integrate pbl #ksedchat
  • Woods1stgrade - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:36 PM EST
    place value, time, money #ksedchat
    In reply to @QuickSMSD
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:37 PM EST
    #ksedchat Of course, I have to say PE is a great time for #PBL!
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q5: Too many options can lead to frustration. #ksedchat
  • giveawayblump Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    #ksedchat Of course, I have to say PE is a great time for #PBL!
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: I love the idea of centers! Going to try that in Social Studies in the upcoming weeks! (Why haven't I thought of this before!) #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I think that is true. When I started having relevant projects with all math topics, math scores soared #KSedchat
    In reply to @misszeisler, @jmill517
  • tmwill14 Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    FACS has been cut out in many places but the content is perfect for cross-curr PBL; maybe pull trad FACS activities in #ksedchat
  • JaneCulver5 - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I think PBL becomes so difficult for 1st due to the fact that we have so much basic knowledge that has to be taught. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A5: Choice doesn't mean limitless options. Provide a menu of options for Ss. Add options as Ss learn the basics of another. #ksedchat
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4. For me, Science, Social Studies, Reading and Writing are my time to do PBL! It basically takes up our afternoons. #ksedchat
  • swehkamp1 Feb 20 @ 9:39 PM EST
    #ksedchat A4-Science, art, writing and SocSt are excellent times for PBL.
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A5 I think you have to remember choice comes in different parts of the project, it doesn't have to be choice/voice at every step #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:40 PM EST
    We do music and PE every day for an hour. How awesome would it be to do a #PBL proj across specials! Integration=deeper knowledge! #ksedchat
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #ksedchat A5 Once again, start small and build as students become more comfortable
  • KSTeacherMrE Feb 20 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: social studies and science seem like natural choices. Need to have explicit @ high school. no1 wants to be on Jay Walking #ksedchat
  • tmwill14 Feb 20 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I would propose blending at least two of these subjects together, all 4 at once would be really awesome! #ksedchat
    In reply to @swehkamp1
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A5) Always found Ss enjoyed being asked their opinion. By 2nd half of yr, students helped create many units. They loved leading #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A5: I do "must do's" and "may do's," discuss ideas as a class, and let students choose topics related to things we are learning #ksedchat
  • coachmragsdale Feb 20 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A5: Minimized Options, with guided opportunities. Keep everything guided is my key. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:41 PM EST
    We do "chopped" at the end of the year! Kids are so surprised the math they have to use. We take over the FACS classroom at the HS #ksedchat
    • tmwill14 Feb 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
      FACS has been cut out in many places but the content is perfect for cross-curr PBL; maybe pull trad FACS activities in #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5 model early, have defined ways to settle disagreements, push for student voice to always be louder than yours! #ksedchat
  • tmwill14 Feb 20 @ 9:42 PM EST
    The more we blend "subject areas" the greater the connections our students make, opportunity to build crossover #ksedchat
  • jmill517 Feb 20 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5.I like to brainstorm ideas so we can think through it together. Leaving their choices a little more limited but still from them #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Great ideas for elementary PBL #ksedchat
    • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:41 PM EST
      A5: I do "must do's" and "may do's," discuss ideas as a class, and let students choose topics related to things we are learning #ksedchat
  • JaneCulver5 - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Would love a couple of good ideas for firsties! #ksedchat
    In reply to @perezhasclass
  • swehkamp1 Feb 20 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Q5 #ksedchat limit the theme but not the end product.
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:43 PM EST
    #ksedchat A5 model for students how to make choices. Go through your own thinking process with them first.
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Ss turned room into an amusement park for force/motion. Entire school came. My superintendent played for hours. It was incredible #ksedchat
  • MrReedsscience Feb 20 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A5. Choice isn't free reign for anything goes. Clear outcomes are key. Ss able to stay focused. #ksedchat
  • MrsStarkweather Feb 20 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I'm thinking our K-1 grades can contribute by giving Ss more independence and choice so they are more successful when they do PBL #ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:45 PM EST
    That's how you know it's valuable-when adults don't want to leave the room #ksedchat
    In reply to @teachbleggett
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #ksedchat A5 Tell Ss to do their best. Currently doing a biome diorama project now! 100% Ss with guidelines and due dates along way 2 help
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Q6: Time to be honest... #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A6: My struggles usually circle back to the driving ? not being strong enough. There is no shame in pausing to reframe the Q! #ksedchat
  • CobbKimmi Feb 20 @ 9:47 PM EST
    We need to slowly introduce voice and choice options then scaffold at pace appropriate for specific class and kids #ksedchat
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A6: My question not being strong enough! #ksedchat
  • 8to3withMrsV Feb 20 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Super late but hopping in anyways! Ashleigh, 3rd grade! #ksedchat
  • KSTeacherMrE Feb 20 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Still hope to have a true PLB someday. #ksedchat
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:48 PM EST
    #ksedchat A4 first project didn't have a lot of instruction or guidance. Now my 1st one is in a small group with #InquiryBased skills
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #ksedchat I got stuck with the thought, "That's not how I would do it!" Then realized the students were far more creative than I was!
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A6 I often stuggle with the time management piece, I have to remember the process is more important than the final product #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Last PBL project made me realize the importance of a guiding Q! Doing the work needed upfront to help make my next one better! #ksedchat
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A6: Not allowing enough time for projects. #ksedchat
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A6: I think what is hard for teachers is knowing what success is. It is so new and different. We need to talk to each other. #ksedchat
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A6 sometimes getting so deep into a project that it is easy to lose sight of the objectives, which should constantly be reinforced #ksedchat
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #ksedchat A6 Focusing more on the end product instead of the learning along the way. Writing meaningful PBL units can be hard!
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    10 Days until #MACEKS17 Registration is full!! Check out the Presentation Matrix here: https://t.co/wuOol3JjhX #ksedchat
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    10 Days until #MACEKS17 Registration is full!! Check out the Presentation Matrix here: https://t.co/VON4Sryxny #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Process over product! #ksedchat
    • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
      #ksedchat A6 Focusing more on the end product instead of the learning along the way. Writing meaningful PBL units can be hard!
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:51 PM EST
    My big struggle is too many project where focus is building and design skills rather than math and rdg skills they need. #ksedchat
  • AmandaBuethe - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Crappy end products means I needed to scaffold more! #ksedchat
  • EducateNate16 Feb 20 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Struggle doesn't have to mean failure, but just putting your brain to a task. A mental test! #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6) Mine is getting more ideas along the way. Have to decide when to go with those or keep original for those who need structure #ksedchat
  • swehkamp1 Feb 20 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6 As with everything at school the time constraints are huge! #ksedchat
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6: biggest struggle was trying to get lower students to buy in. We are currently doing a project and ALL kids are impressing me! #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:52 PM EST
    This is a mistake many make in the beginning. Not every #pbl requires cardboard or an engineering design aspect! #ksedchat
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:53 PM EST
    #ksedchat That a great phrase, "Process over project!" (Just stole that!)
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:53 PM EST
    New #KsEdCamp workshop? #ksedchat
    • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
      A6: I think what is hard for teachers is knowing what success is. It is so new and different. We need to talk to each other. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Last question in 1 minute #ksedchat
  • SandyRempel Feb 20 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Sounds like it is trial and error but so worth the effort for your S's! #ksedchat
  • MrReedsscience Feb 20 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6. My worst was trying to control what Ss did. Better when Ss saw difficulty, discussed and worked thru. #ksedchat
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A7: Open #pbl Q & A time! Ask your question, then look for others to answer! #ksedchat
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Q7: What is one PBL project your students are proud of? #ksedchat
  • CobbKimmi Feb 20 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A7: Where/what would you suggest for a first time PBL user to start? #ksedchat
  • DDellere Feb 20 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A7: Where are you finding PBL ideas for littles? #ksedchat
  • SandyRempel Feb 20 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A7: Always open to new ideas shared by this awesome tribe! #ksedchat
  • debh_stones Feb 20 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #ksedchat Where to look for PBL for PE? Resources?
  • SenorRunyan Feb 20 @ 9:56 PM EST
    #ksedchat no questions. My advice is like anything. Take the risk and fail. Learn. Repeat.
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:56 PM EST
    My Ss partnered with @jackiepickett07 and her Ss to run a school supply drive. They sent the supplies to Ss in Swaziland #ksedchat
    In reply to @mrvesco, @jackiepickett07
  • QuickSMSD Feb 20 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Any ideas for a hashtag or email chain by grade level to share and improve each other's PBL ideas and rubrics? #ksedchat
  • Lindsay71978084 Feb 20 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Could someone suggest a good way to slowly introduce to kinder during reading centers?#ksedchat
  • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Find a real-world word problem in math and take away all the info. Teaches kids to start asking their own questions. #ksedchat
    In reply to @CobbKimmi
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:57 PM EST
    @BIEpbl has a nice database of #pbl projects to inspire you! https://t.co/Cx7xMzN8pI #ksedchat
    In reply to @BIEpbl
  • Rantime Feb 20 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A7: what are ways you go about giving grades on PBL? I've done rubric and grading per standards. #ksedchat
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:57 PM EST
    One was Ss creating Pay it Forward all year as part of civics. Third graders impacted so many people throughout world #KSedchat
    In reply to @mrvesco
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A7: I had some Ts visit @EpicElementary in Liberty, MO. They left inspired by all of the PBL taking place in their classrooms. #ksedchat
    In reply to @EpicElementary
  • perezhasclass Feb 20 @ 9:58 PM EST
    @hightechhigh has 4 elementary schools with project examples that also might spark an idea for you! https://t.co/YBzP4FWKK8 #ksedchat
    In reply to @hightechhigh
  • mrscooper_2 Feb 20 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Start trying to integrate reading w/science or ss.Using trade books fiction or non fiction to cover science/ss topics. #ksedchat
    In reply to @CobbKimmi
  • teachbleggett Feb 20 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Could you collaborate with grade level teachers? Our PE teacher played a part by seeing how could tie into content #KSedchat
    In reply to @debh_stones
  • misszeisler Feb 20 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you @perezhasclass for a great chat #ksedchat
    In reply to @perezhasclass
  • LauraGilchrist4 - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Awesome. Thanks for empowering kids to doing this project and for sharing it here, Brian! #ksedchat
    • bmcd25 Feb 20 @ 9:56 PM EST
      My Ss partnered with @jackiepickett07 and her Ss to run a school supply drive. They sent the supplies to Ss in Swaziland #ksedchat
      In reply to @mrvesco, @jackiepickett07
  • mrvesco - Moderator Feb 20 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you @perezhasclass for leading an awesome chat tonight! You are amazing! #ksedchat
    In reply to @perezhasclass