#MASSPchat Archive
Chats will be moderated by MASSP staff, members of the MASSP Board of Directors and MASSP Members – we will also have special guest moderators on occasion.
Monday March 27, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
MicheleCorbat
Mar 27 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Only 1 hour until
#COLchat
! Please join us to discuss... Turning challenges into opportunities!
#takingaction
#masspchat
#tlap
#nyedchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Good Evening Everyone! I anxious to see how many people are left in Michigan this week. Please check in and introduce yourself!
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Kaarin Averill tweeting for Oakland University School of Ed. Retired Principal from Bloomfield
#masspchat
nsulla
Mar 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Dr. Nancy Sulla here at
#masspchat
; creator of the Learner-Active, Technology-Infused Classroom
#LATIC
; Pres
@IDECorp
; author of:
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:03 PM EDT
#masspchat
Bob Paris St. Charles High School
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Thank you for Joining
@OUSEHS
Kaarin.
#masspchat
In reply to @OUSEHS
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi Robert - I grew up not far from you in Saginaw!
#masspchat
In reply to @paris_Robert2
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Glad you joined in
@paris_Robert2
#masspchat
In reply to @paris_Robert2
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
I'm going to hang out for a few minutes to see if we have anyone else join. Don't go away!
#masspchat
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
#masspchat
Thanks first time on chat
BobedaRobert
Mar 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
#masspchat
Rob Bobeda, AP Jackson High School
#TeamJXN
Anxious to see what others are doing as we were just discussing this topic.
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Scott Pfeiffer, MS/HS Principal at Countryside Academy in Benton Harbor. One more week until Break for us!
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hi
@BobedaRobert
. Hang on, we will get started in a couple of minutes.
#masspchat
In reply to @BobedaRobert
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:09 PM EDT
I leave Friday too
@pfeiffersc
! Thanks for joining in.
#masspchat
In reply to @pfeiffersc
massignmenthelp
Mar 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edtechchat
#flipclass
#HolocaustEdChat
#LEARNLap
#masspchat
5 Daily Habits that will Boost your GPA
https://t.co/P32ItfDV0A
AssignmentHelpN
Mar 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edtechchat
#flipclass
#HolocaustEdChat
#LEARNLap
#masspchat
10 Things you Need to Spring Clean Right Now
https://t.co/7AJrA5H3xE
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Please include what question your answering by using A and then the question number. Question one coming in 60 seconds.
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Q1 Does your school have clearly defined expectations of students?
#masspchat
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: Yes, by classroom and common areas, and half of 2nd day of school is spent reviewing them.
#masspchat
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:12 PM EDT
#masspchat
A1 Yes...we created, implemented and are sustaining a positive school climate focused on Respect, Responsibility and Resilience.
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1. Yes. We had code of conduct and also PBIS. Admins visited classrooms each year to review
#masspchat
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:13 PM EDT
#masspchat
Q we do in the handbook, but we probably would be better served having them posted in all rooms everyday
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:14 PM EDT
We found that admin visits to explain them were more effective
#masspchat
In reply to @paris_Robert2
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q1 B It sound like many of you review expectations at the beginning of the year. To you revisit them?
#masspchat
nsulla
Mar 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1) Our
#LATIC
schools use Great Student Rubrics, like this one:
https://t.co/hExbyz5aBe
(click bottom for free access)
#masspchat
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
#masspchat
A1 we had stickers made with hallway expectations and placed them on the inside door of all lockers
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 I have also found that the message is better delivered by classroom teachers. They can play "good cop"
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Thanks - also important to include in handbooks!
#masspchat
In reply to @paris_Robert2
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1B: We have, but it seems like when we do, we see a spike in issues.
#masspchat
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
#masspchat
A1b I do review with students at start of year
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
#masspchat
A1B our electives teachers
@ThreeRiversHS
have really taken ownership of sustaining Positive School Climate
In reply to @ThreeRiversHS
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Great point. Also - if T's can deliver same message you know you have consistency.
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:18 PM EDT
#masspchat
A1B if you're doing it right, frequent revisits aren't necessary. It becomes part of who you are, what you do and how you behave
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A1 I've seen where schools put together a video of teachers acting out the rules. It helps students see ridiculous behaviors
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q2 Do your teachers have consistent classroom expectations? Do they enforce them consistently?
#masspchat
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#masspchat
we have overall school expectations but lack consistency in following the hard for ss
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: Depends on relationships. Ts that connect with their classes tend to be a bit more loose. As long as Ss are engaged, fine.
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2 I think this is very common. Yet we know the importance of consistency for children. T's sure expect Adm. to enforce rules!
#masspchat
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#masspchat
we have overall school expectations but lack consistency in following the hard for ss
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2. This is difficult but part of school culture. Depends on factors like no. new T's and agreement on discipline
#masspchat
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:24 PM EDT
#masspchat
A2 yes, we have common classroom rules. Consistency from teacher to teacher is something we constantly strive to maintain
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 It's all about relationships. Teachers who are connected rarely have discipline issues.
#masspchat
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: Depends on relationships. Ts that connect with their classes tend to be a bit more loose. As long as Ss are engaged, fine.
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A2 It helps when you can at least all agree on a short list of common expectations.
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A2. Also T's who have engaging lessons rarely have discipline issues
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Q3 Would you describe your discipline style as more Authoritarian or Paternal (Nurturing)?
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Good point. So true!
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A2. Also T's who have engaging lessons rarely have discipline issues
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
#masspchat
A3 really depends in the situation. I don't tend to use the same approach for all issues
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: I try to be as Paternal as possible (discipline situations are a way to teach). It has been a rough year though :(
#masspchat
giveawayvodo
Mar 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
#masspchat
A3 really depends in the situation. I don't tend to use the same approach for all issues
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:31 PM EDT
#masspchat
A3 I'm both. When you're working with teens, being predictable and unpredictable at the same time keeps 'em on their toes lol
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A3. I would say paternal to a point. If paternal doesn't get attention then authoritarian is choice #2
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3 I always believed my best chance with S's was to find a way to make their life better. They were likely already miserable
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Q4 What is expected of a teacher who sends a student to the office?
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:34 PM EDT
So true!
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:36 PM EDT
#masspchat
A4 snap suspension...teacher is required to contact parent re:situation before student returns to class
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:37 PM EDT
#masspchat
A4 that they ate consistent with behavior expectations and they have taken previous steps to curb behavior
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4 I always required teachers to contact parents and tell them why they were sent out before I called parent with consequence.
#masspchat
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: Notify Admin of details. If write-up (not just cooling off), T calls home (1st person details), admin calls home if suspended
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4. What we said was that when u send a Ss to the office, u give up control over consequences unless u work w us ahead of time
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4 It is difficult to talk to parent about why S was sent out if you weren't there to witness the behavior.
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A4 That was exactly my belief. They came to me mad. My job was to resolve peacefully. Keep them if you have a better plan!
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4. What we said was that when u send a Ss to the office, u give up control over consequences unless u work w us ahead of time
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A4. We also worked with T's re what they should send to office and what was their responsibility
#masspchat
PWtoddo
Mar 27 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4: I ask them to text me a detailed explanation of what occurred
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
PWtoddo
Mar 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A3: combo - attempt to treat them like my own
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Nice to have you join us! Congratulations on the BB run!
#masspchat
PWtoddo
Mar 27 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4: I ask them to text me a detailed explanation of what occurred
#masspchat
In reply to @TammyJMASSP
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Always better to have T's input prior to talking with Ss and vice versa!
#masspchat
In reply to @PWtoddo, @TammyJMASSP
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#masspchat
@ThreeRiversHS
we use Powerschool log entries. Teacher log entries go to everyone in the office immediately
In reply to @ThreeRiversHS
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Q5 How do you communicate with staff once you have disciplined a student?
#masspchat
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:46 PM EDT
#masspchat
A5 if it is a suspension I will send email to the ss ts telling them the length. If it is classroom issue I see ts personally
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#masspchat
A5 I "reply all" to the log entry so the teacher and office staff know it's been dealt with
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5: Email usually. Small staff makes communication easy.
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5. I always did it personally but my school was 600 ss and 50 t's. what do others do?
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5 Is this a function of PS?
#masspchat
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#masspchat
A5 I "reply all" to the log entry so the teacher and office staff know it's been dealt with
EduGladiators
Mar 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
🔍Saturday
#EduGladiators
gets HACKED by
@jamessturtevant
w/LIVE
#afterchat
⏭
https://t.co/VEBV4R5nYl
#cdnedchat
#MASSPchat
#musedchat
#ASCD17
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Last Question is on the way!
#masspchat
Edulastic
Mar 27 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Chit chat about
#assessment
tomorrow at
#EdAssessChat
https://t.co/EzqxYr7Yd8
#flipclass
#massPchat
#nyedchat
#socedchat
#vachat
#4thchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q6 When it comes to S discipline, what is the most difficult aspect for you?
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6 I found it very difficult when T's looked at all behaviors as black and white. When dealing with S it's often grey!
#masspchat
pfeiffersc
Mar 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A6: Time it takes from observing Ts and improving learning in the building.
#masspchat
Cbalk17
Mar 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
#masspchat
A6 knowing that what a kid really needs is a stable loving home, caring parents, stability, and oftentimes mental health help
paris_Robert2
Mar 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
#masspchat
A6 When parents make excuses for students when they have clearly had an issue.
stonebackm
Mar 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6 ...getting past S's initial indignation and hostility and getting to where rational discussion and acceptance can occur
#masspchat
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6. Considering individual student differences and trying to apply school and district conduct mandates
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Thank you for joining
#masspchat
tonight! Enjoy your well deserved break!
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Difficult yet rewarding
@stonebackm
.
#masspchat
In reply to @stonebackm
stonebackm
Mar 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6 ...getting past S's initial indignation and hostility and getting to where rational discussion and acceptance can occur
#masspchat
TammyJMASSP
Mar 27 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@OUSEHS
A perfect wrap up of the challenge with student behavior. Thank you for the contributions.
#masspchat
In reply to @OUSEHS
OUSEHS
Mar 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6. Considering individual student differences and trying to apply school and district conduct mandates
#masspchat