#espechat Archive
Tuesday September 6, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Kennedra from MD
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kmurph_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Kristen from Maryland. Teach Headstart - 6!
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PhysEdApps
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
Matt from CA. Might not be around much tonight
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
@superdanpe
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Good to have you here, Daniel representing KY!!!
MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
I teach Pre K-5
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coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Craig from PA. Teaching HS 9-12.
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
#pgcps
coming in packs tonight!
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@kmurph_PE
&
@MsTuckerRocksPE
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Stephanie from Southern California, MS
#physed
teacher
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Rich W, SP,MD Finishing up bedtime. Welcome Wendy!
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
@MsTuckerRocksPE
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Kennedra--I've been hearing about MD and SBG I hope you share with us your journey
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Glad to have your secondary knowledge tn
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@coachkemmlein
@smsandino
kmurph_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
You know it! 👍🏼
@MrCsajko
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@kmurph_PE
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Kristen...please share your journey with SBG in MD Welcome!
coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@MrCsajko
My school is in the process of starting to shift toward SBG
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SLATERMIDDLEPE
Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Brian From Pawtucket, RI
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@PhysEdApps
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Matt, thank you so much for spearheading! Take care
dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Good evening physical educators. Dede from VA, first day of classes. Fun filled day.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@smsandino
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Thanks for being here, Steph
PhysEdApps
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
thanks! Glad we could get you to moderate
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SchleiderJustin
Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Justin from jersey popping in and out.
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kmurph_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
my experience with SBG is ever evolving. Moving more and more towards it everyday
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
absolutely, love learning with all you fine
#physed
folks
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@dfeister
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Hi Dede. great to have you with us!
Hybrid_Fit
Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hi all! This is Ron Rose out of Antioch Unified School District , CA
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@SchleiderJustin
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Thanks for joining us, Justin! Jersey in the house!
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
California is running DEEP tonight!
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Welcome to
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on Standards-Based Grading. Please use
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to respond. Let's see who is here...
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Welcome to
#espechat
on Standards-Based Grading. Please use
#espechat
to respond. Let's see who is here...
Charmain4PE
Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi
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! Charmain is visiting tonight from Fort Lauderdale
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@Hybrid_Fit
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HI Ron!!! Ron is in his first year of teaching elementary!! Glad your hear!
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@Charmain4PE
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Florida in the house. Welcome, Charmain!
TheCoach_K
Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Connor Kem from oskaloosa iowa checking in for the
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Psyched to announce target donated $900 partially funded donors choose project, $98 need. I can do this.
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
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Checking in from the Sunshine state!
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@dfeister
congrats Dede!!!
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framed01
Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Hi everyone
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https://t.co/uYxzxnRvCe
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 7:53 PM EDT
@LynnHefele
HI Lynn....so glad you're with us tonight!
MrWasyliw
Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@NorthPolkWestPE
A supervisor of mine once said kindergarten
#physed
is the equivalent of trying to herd cats! I still loved it!
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
I was hoping you would share in the discussion of SBG tn. Glad to have your expertise
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
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Hi Mike!!! Thanks for sharing in this SBG chat!
bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@MrCsajko
Thank you sir, good to be here and learn
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PhysEdApps
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@dfeister
I'm still hoping to get one funded, was rejected five times.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
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Question #1 So what do you all think Standards-Based Grading is?
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@PhysEdApps
@dfeister
still waiting on mine :/
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Q1:
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What is STANDARDS-BASED GRADING? What do you think it is? Please respond with A1
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 SBG is grading based on standards not assessment methods, using 2-7 levels of proficiency not %, with behaviours separate.
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@PhysEdApps
happened to me twice.
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pgcpspe
Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Amy W. from MD. Multitasking while watching the Season Premiere of Ellen -Season 14
@TheEllenShow
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
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And we can keep track of your responses if you respond back with A1 to Q1
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Love this explanation
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https://t.co/p3V0TDSts5
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 SBG is grading based on standards not assessment methods, using 2-7 levels of proficiency not %, with behaviours separate.
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TuckerBrownPE
Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Tucker Brown checking in from Winchester Va
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SchleiderJustin
Sep 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Numerous assessments directly tied to the standards that allow ps to see what their ss can and can't do.
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kmurph_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1 SBG relates to national standards, which included multiple domains and directly tied to instruction as well
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framed01
Sep 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1 grading students based on the standards being addressed.
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superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: Pointing out to a student where they fall on their journey to mastery of a standard/student outcome.
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@SchleiderJustin
So true. Most answers will involve the students, but nice to understand SBG from a parents point of view
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1. SBG is developing an assessment based on GLO to create a measurable tool addressing the standard. Rubrics are the most common.
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MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 SBG is assessment of progress toward GLOs. Usually with various levels of proficiency noted. Ex: "proficient", "emerging"
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 Assessing ss based on proficiency/mastery levels within a standard (state or national depending on what you're using)
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
SBG allows Ss to know exactly where they are when it comes to meeting the standard, there is no in between
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coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 Assessing students multiple times/ways on their level of proficiency for the standard.
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Q1 Looking @ PE standards...what Ss need/shoud know & why & grading them based on skill levels demonstrated
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Sorry meant to respond A1
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: SBG is grading students on skills/abilities based on a scale of where they should be at an age level aside from behaviour
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pgcpspe
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1 SBG=grading Ss on the SHAPE America Standards. Grade based on outcomes Ss should know & be able to do per gr lvl.
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massignmenthelp
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
How to study Mathematics
https://t.co/MyfYA03W0T
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#kidscancode
#mdedchat
#nced
#pblchat
#profchat
#sced
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@kenoc7
A1
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& seems like plenty of levels of proficiency. And, reporting out non-academic indicators separately is key
dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Use of rubrics, SBG no questions on assessment. "It is what it is"
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@superdanpe
I like that you mention it's a journey
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Ss are learning & growing in the standards
ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 Standards based grading is assessing specifically what the lesson is aiming to teach.
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SLATERMIDDLEPE
Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 not grading kids if they "dress" basing grades on students showing proficiency on the standards and skills taught in class
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@SchleiderJustin
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YES! Justin providing st's with multiple opportunities to demonstrate their learning
SchmidJudy
Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 Setting a measurable goal for Ss to practice and assess through continued improvement toward that goal Ss show growth own pace
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coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 SBG grading is a process, not a one & done assessment.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@kmurph_PE
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OR district, state content standards which should all represent multiple domains
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
I like the words multiple times Craig, great add
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
Yes it emphasizes learning over time so judgment is based on the more recent evidence.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@superdanpe
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Yes, Daniel It also allows the student to know where they need to go to increase their learning
bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
Agree w/that, they get there when they get there...who cares when as long as they get there
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superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
Perfect for PE right!!?? Teaching a process and "assessing" a product is backwards!
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
I like the idea of multiple times/ways for assessments/opportunities
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
process is perfect, not once and done.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
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A1 "measureable" is key and those rubrics have descriptors to help our student along the way
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
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Can you talk about "no in between"?
bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
As long as Ss are provided w/the opportunity to practice and demonstrate their knowledge of the skill, they will get it
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@MsTuckerRocksPE
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"WHY?" is not specifically written into the content standards, so why is "why?" valuable?
rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
It would be nice to have consistent measurable rubrics from governing organization to guide implementation too.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q2:
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How do SBG and Standards-Based Instruction work together?
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:22 PM EDT
AMEN!
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@SHAPE_America
https://t.co/9YNYkTeFOW
rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
It would be nice to have consistent measurable rubrics from governing organization to guide implementation too.
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terridr99
Sep 6 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
Agreed. And with feedback about progress towards the learning goal
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Students need to know where we want them to get to (standards) & give them the opportunity to let us get them there
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
@MsTuckerRocksPE
Ss need to know the reasons behind the skill. What and where will they use it in future.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
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Maybe someday!!
superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@MrCsajko
@SHAPE_America
Google doc time! Let's share!
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
@JonesWendjones
Nice to have some exemplars but huge benefits to T’s & S’s developing success criteria together.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Q2
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So how do standards-based grading and standards-based instruction work together?
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2: Goal in mind, grading helps figure out where they are along the journey, and allows them to see how far they've grown
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2 You can’t do SBG without standards-based instruction. Learning goals must be front and centre all the time.
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@superdanpe
@MrCsajko
@SHAPE_America
would love to have SBG Google do !
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2 Specifically in skill work, the critical elements create a rubric for SBG.
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superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2- Standard 1st, Meaningful instruction + practice time, assess, repeat.
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 SBI guides the what, why, how, while SBG takes them on the journey through the levels, helps them keep track of where they are
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WillWestphal
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2: Can streamline the process of assessment, unit planning, lesson planning
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SchleiderJustin
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 would imagine you couldn't assess the standards unless you understand how to teach them.
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2: (cont) allows T's to plan lessons toward the big picture
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@dfeister
@MsTuckerRocksPE
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Exactly! We need to have our students thristy for the content
kmurph_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 I believe they support one another- I take the standard and look at how my instruction will support that - then examine assess
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2. SBID is the implementation to the lesson and understanding of concept. SBG focus on attainment of knowledge and application.
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A2: If students know why they need to learn skills, instruction needs to be consistent & malleable for every student
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@smsandino
love this explanation.
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MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A2 SBG is about varying levels of success..therefore instruction should follow that model. Diff skill levels within lessons
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elanabloomPE
Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
@PEbyMrE
Just had a whole PD on this! Students have to be aware of their goals for PE in order to get ours for them
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TheCoach_K
Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Sb gd is done w/ meaningful asmnt tied to a glo. Would be evident to student, educator, and parent where they stand via rubric
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
@dfeister
Exactly! Ss understand the here, now & future of content & its impact on them.
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A2. Can't have one w/out the other, they work together and feed of each other..SBG is the result of SBI
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@elanabloomPE
Kids come into class thinking all we do is play; there is so much more; like saying I teach PE, this isn't Gym class
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A2 SBI chunks the standard into obtainable learning goals that can be monitored via SBG
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@JonesWendjones
It would also be nice to have daily instruction to meet all standards in a year.
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Time is
#physed
issue
bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@smsandino
Well said!!
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coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A2 SBI builds the framework for Ss in SBG
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
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A2 they work together and Standards-Based Learning is the BIG picture. Grading is a tiny piece of the picture
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
@JonesWendjones
I agree but that is why we have to prioritize the standards.
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framed01
Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Stephanie so nicely put.
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https://t.co/mTEBMfKPY0
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 SBI guides the what, why, how, while SBG takes them on the journey through the levels, helps them keep track of where they are
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pgcpspe
Sep 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A2 SBG go together if use SB instruction & have criteria for competence for each outcome- or cues/rubrics the rubric score =grade.
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terridr99
Sep 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@rich_wiles
@JonesWendjones
“Need to know” vs “Nice to know”
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elanabloomPE
Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
I totally get it! I've had teachers who have said that to me too.They don't get
#pe
is so much more than just playing!
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TheCoach_K
Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
You need to be a master as the educator so you can assess each glo effectively and more importantly efficiently
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
Then is it really age-appropriate and valid, because my thoughts arent heavily researched.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@rich_wiles
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WE can't possibly do justice to every standard/outcome so we must prioritize the NEED to KNOW content
SchmidJudy
Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
@elanabloomPE
educate the other educators, Ps ans Ss we are Physical Educator teaching Phys Literacy thru Phys Activity
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JimClarkson1609
Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Does anyone have a good activity that involves science integration?
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@terridr99
@kenoc7
@JonesWendjones
Agree. Having a good teaching and learning cycle with SBID helps in this process.
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
SBI drives SBG
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
@elanabloomPE
It is so hard to break their mindset but once they get started in the lesson they seem to forget about play
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@TheCoach_K
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So it truly helps if the teacher REALLY knows the content!!!
SLATERMIDDLEPE
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
SBI helps provide validity to what we teach..gets us away from OldPE & allows us to use SBG which puts us level w/ "core" classes
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elanabloomPE
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@SchmidJudy
@PEbyMrE
that's been my mission! I've had 3 other schools contact me to help their PE teachers do what I do in my gym!
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WillWestphal
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@SchmidJudy
@PEbyMrE
@elanabloomPE
every Ss should learn through play
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
SBG to be in sync & effective w/ SBI, Ts need to teach SBI to students in the way they learn best - visual aid, kinaesthetic, etc.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Q3:
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What does your SB report card look like?
terridr99
Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
@kenoc7
@JonesWendjones
Yes, “need to know” based on what will serve students best on
#physicalliteracy
journey
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pe4everykid
Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
A3
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We don't have one, but I would love to move in that direction. Tells Ps and Ss so much more than what we have.
PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@elanabloomPE
@WillWestphal
@SchmidJudy
Play is vital, but to combine that with lifelong skills and skills takes it higher
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
@PEbyMrE
@elanabloomPE
Do you have to sacrifice "play" for learning?
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elanabloomPE
Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
@PEbyMrE
so so true!! You've got to ring them in with motive which leads to motivation
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TheCoach_K
Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A3:
https://t.co/4J6Xf8VP4e
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@SLATERMIDDLEPE
Validity....getting us away from Old PE-well put
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elanabloomPE
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
@WillWestphal
@SchmidJudy
there are ways to do jt where sometimes they don't even realize it's high level learning
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WillWestphal
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3: Hoping to get our report card to reflect THE SBI that happens in
#physed
this year
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coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3 We aren't there yet but plan is to start w a dual report card. Current grading system report + SBG report.
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MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3 work in progress! Hoping to use the template from
@SHAPE_America
.
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3 Ideal has 3-8 standards with 2-7 proficiency levels and 3-5 learning skills/success behaviours for each subject.
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
a4 ....1,2,3,4 on report card. Would love specific outcomes listed on separate card.
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CoachFoe
Sep 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
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just joining in, sorry I m late
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@TheCoach_K
Please don’t use “exceeds” for the top level, student should get this by excelling at grade level.
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@SLATERMIDDLEPE
Yes, it sure does separate us from the "old" PE
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superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3-All subjects on same form. Standard ID + short descriptor. 4 point scale, level identifiers on form.
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SusMcCand
Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Susan from MD, late as usual. A3: Not there yet with a SB report card, but starting to plan.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3. We use CD=Constantly Demonstrating PR=Progress in Dev EM=Emerging and ND Needs Development
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@kenoc7
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with national standards we have 5 overarching standards and we encourage a 4 point scale unless the district is differet
MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A3 cont. 4 levels of proficiency. "Excelling", "proficient/meeting glo", "emerging" and "not observed/needs improvement"
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WillWestphal
Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
a3: All subjects at my school follow a below, working, meets, exceeds
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A3: Mark 1-4 for movement and fitness management; still trying to make the provincial RC & my assessments meld together better
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
@PEbyMrE
@elanabloomPE
Nope play is embedded in how we want Ss to learn, moving with meaning is better than play
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
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It takes time, Matt and everyone!
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
Your scale mixes quantity and quality and achievement and progress. Scales need consistency.
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A3 Exceeds, meets, approaching, and needs improvement. We no longer have a letter grade, just 4 standards.
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MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
I like that "needs development"!
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@ChrisGrove_PE
Exactly what ours is.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@WillWestphal
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Excels might be a better descriptor. If you use exceeds you need to describe what it means to exceed the standard
elanabloomPE
Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
@JonesWendjones
@PEbyMrE
I agree moving is obviously better. I also think students need a mix of quality PE & play
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pe4everykid
Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A3 our is 3pt scale - 3=demo consistency, 2=demo progress, 1=needs improvement
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superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@ChrisGrove_PE
We give the 4,3,2,1 on report card for each standard. (Letter grade in parents eyes)
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
@JonesWendjones
@elanabloomPE
Exactly! Making learning skills easy & motivating w/o them knowing their doing "work"
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rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@kenoc7
It is the scale that the system has chosen to use at the moment. We have had a few.
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@superdanpe
Yes, we do to, I meant to include that exceeds is a 4, meets is 3, and so on...
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
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Do you and your parents know what emerging means?
WillWestphal
Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
In my
#physed
rubrics that is indicated, but as for other content areas I'm not so sure that's the case
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
See Guskey’s articles on why not to use “exceeds.”
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
Hopefully then it will evolve to greater consistency.
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terridr99
Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@elanabloomPE
@bobcatsPE
@JonesWendjones
@PEbyMrE
Play can be a part of QPE. Make it purposeful
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@pe4everykid
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I actually like that Mike. Fewer levels make collecting evidence more manageable
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A3 No SB report cards- on percentages. Participation, mile runs/fitness, PE Handbook/mile run graphs
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rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
The language is common in primary grades from PK-1 then mixed with letter grades in core subjects overtime.
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pgcpspe
Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A3 Not using a SB report card yet. Would be nice to see examples out there.
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rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
We only use the four points in Arts, Music and Physical Education at the elementary level.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@ChrisGrove_PE
@superdanpe
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Can you describe to parents what "exceeds" means? Can you describe what St's are doing?
MrCsajko
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Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Can any
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friends help?
https://t.co/tnwJKAoZRn
pgcpspe
Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A3 Not using a SB report card yet. Would be nice to see examples out there.
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@smsandino
That sounds like pays ed when I went to school - and I’m old!!!
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rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Consistency would be nice in education too. Evolution takes time.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@WillWestphal
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For parents, it helps to have only one set of proficiency scales to understand
coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A3 We are implementing Advanced, Proficient, Basic, Below Basic.
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
@JonesWendjones
There is no need for subject letter grades till grade 9 and preferably grade 11.
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@kenoc7
haha yea new school new district for me! Trying to light a fire
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terridr99
Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@smsandino
No worries! You’ll turn them around!
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#LotsOfRoomForImprovement
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@kenoc7
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. I was holding onto "exceeds" emotionally. I want our students to push their learning. Then I met Guskey!
superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Each year begins with teaching parents SBI,SBG at open house and through newsletters.
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@pgcpspe
Would like to see SB report card adopted for all PE Ts in
#pgcps
. Project for PE leadership team.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
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...Yeah, crazy for parents to get their heads wrapped around
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q4:
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What does your proficiency scale look like? Generic rubric, levels, descriptors
terridr99
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
@kenoc7
Yes, putting theory into practice isn’t easy
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A3. Ps see a 1 as a failure. Hard to get them to understand the grading, assessment process.
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Exceeds is competency of the same standard but in the next grade level. I rarely use it in PE.
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rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@pgcpspe
Check out the SHAPE Report Card and we have them in
@PEDL_K5
too. Lots of good examples from CA.
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MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@superdanpe
I like the idea of teaching it to Ps!
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Reminds me a little of distinguished in the danielson framework for teachers, which I personally like.
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framed01
Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A3 we do not have a sb report card. For elementary PE is not even on the report card.
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@smsandino
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Yes, we're trying to get rid of those indicators. Lots of paradigm shifting needed
kmurph_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I'm sorry I have to bow out early. Thank you
@JonesWendjones
for moderating! Have a goodnight everyone! Thanks y'all!
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@ChrisGrove_PE
IMHO we should always grade on what is expected at grade level, so “excels” not “exceeds."
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@coachkemmlein
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How do you describe "advanced"?
PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A4: Need to Improve, Improving to Proficient, Consistently Proficient, Proficient/Can Teach Others - for Ss self-assess too
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MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
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MrPicha_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@framed01
doesn't that bother you?? Would drive me bonkers!
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@rich_wiles
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And I think we can do away with letters eventually. Not now...we need a hybrid until everyone understands
ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@kenoc7
In stands 2-5 I agree, I could see where a student is more competent than the standard 1 states and would be exceeding it.
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A4. No scales but when I do introduce leveling in my lessons I try to make it simple not there yet, almost, got it, wow
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@MsTuckerRocksPE
@pgcpspe
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Collaboration is key..YOu need buy-in from all stakeholders
coachkemmlein
Sep 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
Currently we have all tied to percentage grade w just starting this. Descriptors are def something to implement.
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pe4everykid
Sep 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A4
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My
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descriptors look like this for my 3 pt levels:
https://t.co/sMxVG0hzWG
pgcpspe
Sep 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@rich_wiles
@PEDL_K5
Can you direct me where exactly? Email me if you need to please. Thanks.
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@dfeister
It is easy for Ps to overlook that their child can improve; need to change the mindset from failure to improving
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@ChrisGrove_PE
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. In a standards-based system, should we be going there? Can sts exceed by demonstrating more complex understanding
smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A4 cont'd its my way of trying to lead the way at my new school and introducing proficiency levels
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dfeister
Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@smsandino
As soon as I get my magnetic board I will start having students assess leveling. Magnets purchased. ❤️
#amazon
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A4: Keep it simple for younger grades - I'm Still Working, Almost There, I Can Do It Well, I Can Teach Others
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A4 My favourite informal words for 4 levels. Can easily develop more formal language from them.
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A4. No scales but when I do introduce leveling in my lessons I try to make it simple not there yet, almost, got it, wow
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@framed01
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Frances don't ask for SBG until all teachers are doing SBI
MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
@pgcpspe
True. Have SB Rubrics in our county available to all Ts. Wondering how we get buy in
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@kmurph_PE
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Thanks for joining in tonight, Kristen
superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A4- 4- perform it 100% Always 3- perform it 100% Most of the time 2- perform it 100% rarely 1- Can't perform it 100% yet
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@ChrisGrove_PE
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Yes, Ken this is a BIG conversation
MsTuckerRocksPE
Sep 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@pe4everykid
How do you break this down for Ss?
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Q5:
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How do you decide which content standards to use to determine your grades?
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
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The difficulty in this might be the clear line between "needs to im" and "improving to pro"
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@superdanpe
Why %? SBG & % are incompatible. Miss once out of ten times they don’t get a 4 is wrong, should say “almost always.”
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bobcatsPE
Sep 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@PEbyMrE
Awesome..simple and easy to understand
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TuckerBrownPE
Sep 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Great reading all the responses tonight. Great info
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rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
I like having student self assess with same rubric I am using attainment of GLO.
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They pizza grade their level at end of class.
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@MsTuckerRocksPE
@pgcpspe
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Give teachers a chance to express their thoughts
JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@superdanpe
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Does anyone perform anything at 100%?
rich_wiles
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Sep 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Pizza Self Assessment Tool from
@physedreview
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https://t.co/nvNzFcRrhB
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A5: On my own 4 now. Study the standards inside and out, reflect, assess, and reflect again. Ongoing process until its correct.
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superdanpe
Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
paraphrasing. I don't use % on scale (tweet language)
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smsandino
Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A5 I don't have any of these but I would start a discussion w/ my team about what we want our program goals to be & go from there
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PEbyMrE
Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@bobcatsPE
Make sure you always have those self-assessments; ask each student how they can get to the next level; make it personal
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JonesWendjones
Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@superdanpe
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We don't need 100 point scale. It only distorts the measurement of learning
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@superdanpe
What do you use?
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ChrisGrove_PE
Sep 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@JonesWendjones
Since we dont see them everyday, our goal should be for all to meet the standard.
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