#FinlandChat Archive
Join us for an hour long chat about Timothy D Walker's book Teach Like Finland. We'll explore the ideas in the book and identify some take aways to bring to our schools this year!
Thursday August 17, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#FinlandChat
. Introduce yourself. What was the best part of your summer? Don't forget to use the hashtag:
#FInlandChat
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Here are some quick how-tos for the chat. I know that this is a first twitter chat for some of you! Yay!
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Gretchen -- MS librarian
@kilmerlibrary
! Best part of summer was lots of quality time w/ family & friends!
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Glad you are here Gretchen!
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In reply to @libraryms, @kilmerlibrary
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Join us for a fun chat tonight! Right now!
#vaslchat
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Here are some quick how-tos for the chat. I know that this is a first twitter chat for some of you! Yay!
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi all, Susanna here, MS librarian,
@kilmerlibrary
. Best part: seeing my bestie who lives too far away & lots of hiking!
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Kristen, science teacher--loved seeing my daughter grow at camp and having some social time with friends and family!
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mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Stormy evening here in FL. Best part of my summer was moving to my "forever home" on the Gulf of Mexico.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Susanna! The photos of all of your hikes -- amazing!
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In reply to @Susannaopal, @kilmerlibrary
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@kctichoc
@KMattix1
@jogordon66
@TechyMargaret
#TechCoachBC
Hope to see you all at
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RIGHT NOW! =)
ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Rich. Best part of my summer? Just doing things I want to do on no particular schedule.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
QI: What was your biggest take away from Teach Like Finland?
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Great to see you Meredith!
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Wow! Is that your view! Gorgeous!
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome Rich!
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1. Biggest take away was how "tweaks" to the system can result in staff being more content in their work.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi, Kara Tichoc, history 7. Best part of summer was visiting w/my best friend/retired librarian at the beach in NC w/my family!
kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi, Kara Tichoc, history 7. Best part of summer was visiting w/my best friend/retired librarian at the beach in NC w/my family!
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I liked the idea of small changes making a difference in bringing joy to the classroom. Do-able.
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: (1 of many) How important recharging is for both Ts & Ss. Fascinated by the model in Finland. 45 min on, 15 off for both.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hey! I know her! =)
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In reply to @kctichoc
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: I think that my biggest takeaway was that there were more similarities w/ US schools and Finland than differences
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mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Mike, MD, Lurking around a bit, finishing up my
@TuftsECT
early childhood tech and (hopefully) getting a new bathroom.
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @TuftsECT
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
#This
. I absolutely loved the concept of joy as discussed in the classroom via the book.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I liked the idea of small changes making a difference in bringing joy to the classroom. Do-able.
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Hey
#Finlandchat
! I'm Margaret, Tech Coach (SBTS) at Chantilly HS. So glad
@coreythornblad
shared her recommendation for this book!
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Welcome Mike!
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In reply to @mrterborg, @TuftsECT
mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
We would all agree that bathrooms are good things.
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In reply to @mrterborg, @coreythornblad, @TuftsECT
mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:09 PM EDT
And no, I've never been to
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In reply to @coreythornblad
ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1. There was more in common than I thought. But, we (the US) seem to approach good ideas in a roundabout way.
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I was honestly surprised by this, I expected it to be more of a night/day type of difference.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: I think that my biggest takeaway was that there were more similarities w/ US schools and Finland than differences
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Agree w/Corey, lots of similiarities. Ss need fun (hate joy - sorry Susanna), independence, ownership.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Agreed. It seems to somehow be less of a struggle to make changes in FInland
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Also love rolling out the
#BookCampPD
idea this summer w/
@teresagross625
and having so many authors join our chat
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 I think my biggest takeaway was joy. I thought the purposeful focus on joy was great. It kept coming up in other chapters
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Yes. 100 percent. I think that our schools are moving in that direction w/ genius hour, PBL, standards based grading
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In reply to @kctichoc
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, absolutely. I kept saying, "we do this!" and "we do that!"
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In reply to @coreythornblad
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q2: How can we promote the well being of students?
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: It's okay (and important) to spend a lot of time building relationships and a positive classroom culture.
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mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2. Great place to begin might be during PLC conversations to brainstorm ideas/everyone on same page/change culture
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mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
And mine has needed updating for quite awhile
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216, @coreythornblad, @TuftsECT
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Definitely agree!
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: It's okay (and important) to spend a lot of time building relationships and a positive classroom culture.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I so agree. I especially liked the idea of "play" in the classroom and lunch bunches with teachers.
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In reply to @KMattix1
mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2. If a grade level team is on the same page about creating situations that move toward promoting well-being would be easier
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Yes, and I think that he emphasizes the idea that in Finland teachers believe that collaboration isn't an option it's a must.
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Yes! Absolutely. I think rationally, we all know this, but maybe panic about getting to teaching content?
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In reply to @KMattix1
TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 I love the idea of fresh air. When I was a kid we had an outdoor classroom. The freedom (and space) is needed
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mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Yes, they are SO important. totally agree!
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In reply to @KMattix1
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: I loved the idea that classrooms can be simplified. I think we have a tendency to cover the walls with posters etc.
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 Get to know Ss; be open to listening to problems; help them learn to deal w/problems - Independence is fostered
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Relationships, more frequent breaks/pauses, get outside
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
I also think it's a challenge with pacing guides starting day 1. We MUST take time to build community & trust & relationships
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In reply to @libraryms, @KMattix1
KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Listen to Ss, respect their view points, value their ideas. Expect respect for all at all times in your room. Be flexible.
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sarahmomof3boys
Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Hello from Iowa first time seeing this chat as I'm new-ish to twitter
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
I have to say that I love taking the kids outside for fresh air and brain breaks (the joys of a windowless classroom)
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In reply to @TechyMargaret
TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 I liked the part about simplifying our space as well. I think too often that space is about us rather than kids
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Absolutely. I blame Pinterest.
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In reply to @coreythornblad
mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Before moving to FL, my husband and I lived in East Moline - across the river neighbors!
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In reply to @sarahmomof3boys
TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
We are nearly a windowless school. I LOVE seeing classes out on the sidewalks, out and about. And the team chalk drawings too!
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In reply to @coreythornblad
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@libraryms
and the idea that we are spending that time making bulletin boards when we could be finding ways to engage students.
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In reply to @TechyMargaret, @libraryms
kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Flexibility is what I foster in my room!
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In reply to @KMattix1
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Relationships built & bridged seemed core in the book regardless of age/grade level.
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Hey Sarah! Glad you are joining. We're doing a one-time book chat with this hashtag and glad to have you join us!
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In reply to @sarahmomof3boys
sarahmomof3boys
Aug 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I ❤️ chalk outside w/ kids. It is a good team building activity!
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In reply to @TechyMargaret, @coreythornblad
SparkyTeaching
Aug 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Sorting your classroom out for the new year? Sorted!
https://t.co/6CWheptN1V
#G2great
#sstlap
#tlap
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#digcit
#edtech
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
There's pressure to make the space look "cute" for 1st day or BTSN or something. Sometimes it's tough to leave walls blank.
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @TechyMargaret
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3: How can we foster a sense of belonging?
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
We are stuck trying to achieve progressive ideals while measured by a standardized test. trying to find middle ground.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2. There is no substitution for getting to know your students and letting the get go know you.
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mjjohnson1216
Aug 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Research has shown that all of the walls covered with stuff can be distracting to young Ss. Their work is better.
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In reply to @libraryms, @coreythornblad, @TechyMargaret
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Sometimes a clean space feels too empty at first, but I can breathe better in a clear space, guessing mb be true for some Ss!
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:19 PM EDT
There's pressure to make the space look "cute" for 1st day or BTSN or something. Sometimes it's tough to leave walls blank.
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @TechyMargaret
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: I liked
@timdwalk
's ideas of celebration (but doesn't have to be every kid every day) and ownership of task
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I agree "visible thinking" and anchor charts made in class should be on the walls. Things that add value
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216, @libraryms, @TechyMargaret
sarahmomof3boys
Aug 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: Give every S a voice from the beginning & let them know they matter
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 I liked the anti-bullying/conflict resolution w/Ss facilitating & focusing on moving forward/not forcing a sorry
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:21 PM EDT
This might be the most important thing of all!
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In reply to @sarahmomof3boys
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
This really resonated with me too. I think that reflection piece is key. We sometimes focus too much on the consequences.
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In reply to @kctichoc
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Yes. and we need to explain why it looks like that to students, admin, parents and teachers.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @libraryms, @TechyMargaret
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Yes. Absolutely. I think we need an article about this in some PTA publications...
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @coreythornblad, @TechyMargaret
sarahmomof3boys
Aug 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
When the Ss facilitate it is so powerful! And I agree-sorry should be authentic and not forced.
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In reply to @kctichoc
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: I like the idea of teaching kids to practice mindfulness. I think it would be difficult but rewarding - a skill for life
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3-Get students involved in decisions--hear their reasons and move toward solutions. stop forcing apologies + making excuses.
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: 1/2 Ss being given "responsibility" vs "accountability" was interesting to me, don't always differentiate the 2
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I feel like I would need training to do this. I don't have the skill set currently. PD opportunity.
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In reply to @sarahmomof3boys, @kctichoc
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I think it would be interesting to try a short daily meditation practice with one class to see if it makes a difference.
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In reply to @coreythornblad
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: 2/2 Bringing Ss into the building of the fabric, letting them know a safe space, have a voice, ownership of belonging
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@christiepday
was telling us about a PBL unit to start the year where Ss design & arrange & setup the classroom
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#startstrong
In reply to @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @libraryms, @coreythornblad, @christiepday
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:26 PM EDT
The loudest class. 5 minutes of serenity. :)
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In reply to @libraryms
ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3. Choice is powerful. In assessment and in how to receive instruction. Cliche, but true.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I love this idea and have heard of teachers doing it but I struggle with five classes. It sounds suited to elem.
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In reply to @TechyMargaret, @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @libraryms, @christiepday
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A great idea. Potentially more challenging in secondary (w/ 5 classes) vs elem (give each class a specific space in the room?)
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In reply to @TechyMargaret, @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @coreythornblad, @christiepday
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Reading this book made me want to purposefully start practicing mindfulness more myself. A good reminder nudge!
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: I like the idea of teaching kids to practice mindfulness. I think it would be difficult but rewarding - a skill for life
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Total aside - the Leave Margin lesson is so powerful. How often do we schedule every moment with no room for the time Ss need?
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Agreed & much of the book is what we do in part in our classes. Give Ss choice in research, product, classroom set up.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM EDT
What does choice look like for assessment? Just curious for math content.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@ChouinardJahant
shared this:
https://t.co/DEf1Iu4Ql6
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In reply to @TechyMargaret, @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @libraryms, @coreythornblad, @christiepday, @ChouinardJahant
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Check out the Headspace app. I kind of dig it.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I agree. I feel like we do so much of this already in terms of choice-- are we ahead of the curve? Or is choice the norm?
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In reply to @kctichoc, @ErlerDoesMath
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q4: How can we encourage student autonomy in classrooms?
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Does anyone use
@Headspace
? I've heard great reviews and have it on my list to try
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#Mindfulness
In reply to @Susannaopal, @Headspace
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Thanks for the recommendation (love a good rec!), will be looking at it after this chat:)
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Check out the Headspace app. I kind of dig it.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I feel like one of the biggest lessons of this book is give more time...time to play, breathe, go outside, process. Go slower.
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In reply to @TechyMargaret
mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Stab: Choose how to solve, also worksheet, product, (movie, scenario, flipgrid, or teach a classmate w/ documented evidence?)
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @ErlerDoesMath
sarahmomof3boys
Aug 17 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I really wish we allowed more play in schools in the US! It teaches so much!
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In reply to @libraryms, @TechyMargaret
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: The thing that struck me most was the idea of school beginning with a soft start. I do the exact opposite. Loosen later
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Honestly it seems like good advice across the board for everyone involved with a school day!
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I feel like one of the biggest lessons of this book is give more time...time to play, breathe, go outside, process. Go slower.
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In reply to @TechyMargaret
kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
History choice in PBLS & current events. Ss choose article & historical tie in, Ss choose presentation, poster, video, online,
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @ErlerDoesMath
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
But so difficult to practice when we have deadlines, meetings, copies to make, students to care for. Easy to say hard to do.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Yes -- I think letting them choose what they make to show what they know is so empowering.
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In reply to @mrterborg, @ErlerDoesMath
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:33 PM EDT
So true.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:32 PM EDT
But so difficult to practice when we have deadlines, meetings, copies to make, students to care for. Easy to say hard to do.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: 1/2 - I LOVE the idea of more autonomy. As a parent (12 & 8) I try to free-range a bit, but school is such a...
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: 2/2 - a safe space for independence. I wish we emphasized this more in US schools. Helicopter teaching.
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I go slow the whole time until the end, and that isn't good.
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In reply to @coreythornblad
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
(Ugh. Not A3.) A4: 1/2
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: 1/2 - I LOVE the idea of more autonomy. As a parent (12 & 8) I try to free-range a bit, but school is such a...
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mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Create a model business? Start an entrepreneur type program?
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @ErlerDoesMath
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I can relate. You know I can relate. We are going to get the pacing right this time!
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In reply to @kctichoc
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 (more): Love simple idea of letting the Ss take notes & organize their own stuff. Not to so explicitly organize for them.
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mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
This is critical. Absolutely critical. Also tell stories using multiple senses.
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In reply to @libraryms, @TechyMargaret
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I always organize for them. I might need to let that go. Helicopter teaching?
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In reply to @libraryms
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A bit eye-opening for me. i guess the land of graphic organizers had taken over my brain space when it came to note taking.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 (more): Love simple idea of letting the Ss take notes & organize their own stuff. Not to so explicitly organize for them.
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ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. Many of our Ss want autonomy. In many instances, it's the T reluctant to give some power to the learners.
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 (1/2): I think that the class must be a safe place to make mistakes both socially and academically, with many choices
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I can see that and I want someone else to organize my 7th grader. But book made me think: at what point does he own it?
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In reply to @coreythornblad
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q5: What role should textbooks, technology, and grades play in student mastery of content?
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
And that safety comes from strong relationships! It's so important to get to know our students as people
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In reply to @KMattix1
KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 (2/2): If students are worried about being embarrassed or getting a bad grade, they won't take risks.
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A safe place to learn failure isn't the end of all ends.
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 (1/2): I think that the class must be a safe place to make mistakes both socially and academically, with many choices
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
you do love organization - alphabetical document note sheets! Seriously thought some of my Ss needed that & did what you said.
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In reply to @coreythornblad, @libraryms
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:39 PM EDT
And honestly he may not need the level of organization that I do. The teacher's way may not be the student's way.
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In reply to @libraryms
KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5 (1/2): I hate science textbooks! Grades should be a snapshot of where Ss are, not a punishment.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: It seems like Finland prefers a more uniform approach. I like that we use a lot of tech, other texts, visuals etc.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: I was surprised to hear about lack of tech emphasis. I picture Finish classrooms full of new crisp clean Mac books.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I did like the idea of conferencing w/ students about grades. Where is the time?
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In reply to @KMattix1
KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5 (2/2): Personally focus on students doing and making things, give multiple opportunities and ways to show mastery
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: Also liked discussion of being able to justify work.
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: 1/2 C/n speak to grades but it seems textbooks shouldn't be only resource available with so many other options out there.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Agreed. That was the biggest surprise to me in the book.
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In reply to @libraryms
ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5. 1/2 The love of textbooks was a major point of departure for me and the book.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
100 percent. Canned curriculum is the path to disengagement. I also think it depends on the book.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: 2/3 & tech usually a supporting component to learning objective as opposed to tech being the primary part of lesson..,
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I 100% agree -- too often we value the tool more than the content. It's frustrating!
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In reply to @KMattix1
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Most teachers I can think of use tech for the right reasons not as an add-on.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: 3/3 (unless tech specific lesson), thought au's comparison of tech use in lessons US v Fin was eye-opening/fascinating.
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ErlerDoesMath
Aug 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 (2/2) it would take just the slightest nudge for me to allow students to decide on their grade w/me.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Unfortunately, I think other pressing things get in the way. Maybe offering an optional paws conference.
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In reply to @KMattix1
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q6: How can educators adopt a mindset that allows us to thrive as individuals and professionals?
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Agreed, which makes it a great supplementary part of a lesson (I think!).
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Most teachers I can think of use tech for the right reasons not as an add-on.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Gah! I hate that! Tech is a tool in our toolbox (usually an awesome one) but has to be the best for the job!
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In reply to @libraryms, @KMattix1
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@KMattix1
How cool would it be to conference with the kid and even potentially also facetime w/ parents after the conference
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Mine is okay for certain things. It provides scaffolding for us to work from...
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Yes!
@coreythornblad
I think that offers flexibility & unique resource opportunity!
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: It seems like Finland prefers a more uniform approach. I like that we use a lot of tech, other texts, visuals etc.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:48 PM EDT
We could plan to do it on the same days and hold each other accountable. We've got this. Just remind me in Oct!
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In reply to @KMattix1
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Right back at ya.
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In reply to @KMattix1
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A7: We all do a lot of what is in this book already.But, fresh air, lunch bunch, talk to kids about grades, simplify room.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6: For me the key is collaboration! We teach and learn best TOGETHER!
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Oops! Gotta a little ahead. Question 7 up in a minute.
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q7: Final Question: What (if any) "Finland" strategies will you use in your classroom?
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Take more breaks, spend time with people who inspire us, focus on the good both in students and peers and ourselves.
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kctichoc
Aug 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
a7 Collaboration, moving out of the classroom more (library is way cool), student ownership & independence
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: Sunlight & open windows, pausing more often / time, focus on collaborating with colleagues
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Finding that space between outside life and work life/recharging is important to support Ss & Ts.
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mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Give it to them. That means we can get more done.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7 Collaborate over coffee. At the busiest times I lose the chance to visit & talk with my colleagues. Be purposeful about that
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
#lovethis
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KMattix1
Aug 17 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Take more breaks, spend time with people who inspire us, focus on the good both in students and peers and ourselves.
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
I much prefer the "collaboration over coffee" method -- much like your idea of more organic CTs focused on a common interest...
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Come on by anytime!
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In reply to @kctichoc
mrterborg
Aug 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Besides, they can handle it. Really.
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In reply to @ErlerDoesMath
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I wish this would become the norm. Forced collaboration rarely works.
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In reply to @libraryms, @ErlerDoesMath
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I was thinking while reading how something so simple can be both lifeblood and a bridge builder!
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7 Collaborate over coffee. At the busiest times I lose the chance to visit & talk with my colleagues. Be purposeful about that
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:56 PM EDT
#truth
.
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In reply to @Susannaopal
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
That's all for tonight! Don't forget to build your PLN and FOLLOW fellow chat participants. I've enjoyed learning with you!
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Absolutely! We'd love to have you! Let's make a plan to get more of you this year!
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In reply to @KMattix1, @kctichoc, @Susannaopal
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I know. I heard one teacher say they rearrange between classes but that sounds like lost time for middle school Ss.
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In reply to @christiepday, @TechyMargaret, @ErlerDoesMath, @Susannaopal, @libraryms
Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks for hosting this chat
@coreythornblad
, thoroughly enjoyed it!
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
That's all for tonight! Don't forget to build your PLN and FOLLOW fellow chat participants. I've enjoyed learning with you!
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TechyMargaret
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for this chat
@coreythornblad
! I hope you all can join us Wednesdays for
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! Each week at 9pm E
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for a fantastic
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@coreythornblad
& everyone who participated! Fun & energizing!!
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Susannaopal
Aug 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Going to have to second
@libraryms
here, but of course you can:)
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libraryms
Aug 17 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Absolutely! We'd love to have you! Let's make a plan to get more of you this year!
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In reply to @KMattix1, @kctichoc, @Susannaopal
coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:58 PM EDT
First time moderating. Thanks for helping me along everyone! I appreciate more than you can know!
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coreythornblad
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 9:59 PM EDT
And now I am ready to get this school year started! See so many of you on Monday!
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