#ELLCHAT Archive

#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.
Monday October 23, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • participatechat Oct 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #ELLCHAT by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/TtihYHTCPA
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Question 1 Please share your name, and what and where you teach! Answer with A1 and include #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT This is Kate from @ps. A1
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A1 @MrC_A2 from @A2schools English Language Teacher K-5 at @A2_Logan #ellchat
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A1: Julia, K-5 Art, Maryland #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A1 My name is Karen. I’m an author and consultant specializing in early childhood ELLs/DLLs from eastern PA - and co-host of #ELLCHAT
  • sa_humphreys Oct 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A1) Hi ya'll. This is Stephanie from Durham, NC. I teach middle school ELLs. #ellchat
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A1. Hi everyone! I’m LeighAnn. I teach pre-k to 5th grade ELLs in NJ. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A1 Also - my co-host of #ELLCHAT is @judiehaynes but she won’t be able to join us tonight - so I’m counting on my Twitter friends!
  • gwdesolsm Oct 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    #ellchat Suzie, K5-5th ESOL inSC. A1
  • toripierson17 Oct 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A1) Tori Pierson, middle school ESL teacher in Richmond, VA #ellchat
  • thompsonav3 Oct 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A1) Andrea, ESOL #gwd50esol #ELLchat
  • cmedlockpaul Oct 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    #ellchat teachers, tell me ab ur classroom practices that promote critical literacy! Enter 2 win $250 Gift Card https://t.co/UfzHhzSZUi
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A1 Beth Skelton; consultant K-12, based in Colorado #ellchat
  • Mrs_B_EAL Oct 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A1) Michelle Middle School EAL teacher #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    We post a question about every 12 minutes. If you include the answer number, like A1 for Q1, people can always follow threads #ELLCHAT
  • ArtNadya Oct 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Twirled around the waist &then used as my interactive Venn diagram w/ my ss #ELL #ellchat @yycJamesFowler @MsAField
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Hollyanna Bates, Literacy Coordinator in rural district in Colorado. A little late but happy to be here. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Q2 In your experience, what challenging behaviors might ELLs exhibit? #ELLCHAT
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 Tara here 5th grade in CO it’s been a while but I’m back! #ELLCHAT
  • dmarigutierrez Oct 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Damaris, San Antonio TX, Elem ESL #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A2 My adult students will sometimes say things that we would consider inappropriate. It is hard to correct without shaming.
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A2 not speaking, pretending to understand, little participation #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A2 Transitioning can impact ss in many ways, there is definitely a “landing” period that can vary in length! #ELLCHAT
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A2: Frustration/aggression; reluctance to work #ELLCHAT
  • mrchokshi Oct 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    HS ELL Social Studies (US History & World Cultures) & instructional coach, suburb of Chicago. Excited for #ellchat !
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A2 With lack of comprehension and support--defiance, frustration, acting out, checking out #ellchat
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A2. distracting others, disengaged, lack of understanding routine & rules - due to limited English language & background knowledge #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A2 In preschool, we sometimes see children act withdrawn, unresponsive. Don’t get as much attention for behavior as acting out #ELLCHAT
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1) Hi. Niki from DC. Middle school EL manager at DCPS. #ellchat
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A2 ELL Ss are so good at masking weaknesses & appearing stronger. So important to not ask yes or no questions. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A2 That’s true, I see that even among the young ones. they often have learned to put on brave face #ELLCHAT
    • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      A2 ELL Ss are so good at masking weaknesses & appearing stronger. So important to not ask yes or no questions. #ellchat
  • educ8orSmith Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #Ellchat A1 ESL coach
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A2 Ss express frustration and feelings of isolation that impact engagement. Imagine being in a new place with a new language!? #ELLCHAT
  • sa_humphreys Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A2) Ss can get frustrated when they were successful in their home countries but struggle in new school. Don't want to "look stupid."#ellchat
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A2) problems when my Spanish speaking Ss speak Spanish - which is fine except 4 the few Ss who don’t speak Spanish & r left out #ellchat
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    I agree - I see similar behaviors in pre-k when I push in during center time/dramatic play. #ellchat
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Absolutely! I’ve spoken with several students about this very feeling! #ELLCHAT
    • sa_humphreys Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      A2) Ss can get frustrated when they were successful in their home countries but struggle in new school. Don't want to "look stupid."#ellchat
  • thompsonav3 Oct 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2) poor attitude, clearly struggling academically, but boastfully claims they already know what is being taught #gwd50esol #ELLchat
  • JenSings247 Oct 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A1 Jennifer McAllister at Sandburg MS, FCPS, Alexandria, VA, ESOL US History 7 and ESOL Civics 8. Hi all!
  • toripierson17 Oct 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 Easily shutting down/disengaging at first sign of not understanding. Becoming dependent on 1-on-1 help. #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT We run into students who plagiarize rather than present imperfect work they created on their own...
    In reply to @MrC_A2
  • sa_humphreys Oct 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2) Yep, definitely. Saving face is big for my middle school kiddos. Some of them don't want to admit they don't know something. #ellchat
    In reply to @thompsonav3
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2 Article by me & @pambrillante describes different kinds of challenging behaviors we see in young ELLs https://t.co/hkUFfB3SWl #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Lots of great examples of different behaviors we should watch for! #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    So tricky - especially if ELLs were successful academically in their home country using their L1, it’s a way to mask the emotion #ellchat
    In reply to @thompsonav3
  • JenSings247 Oct 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A2 Quick to tease others' attempts to speak or share answers. No filter expecting one on one attention in a class of 15.
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Q3 Now, What kinds of ELL behavior issues are reported to you or complained about by other teachers and admins in your school? #ELLCHAT
  • educ8orSmith Oct 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    LTELS often exhibit these behaviors and some newcomers depending on background. #ellchat
    In reply to @PIESartBCPS
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A3 Our biggest issues are plagiarism, either from lack of understanding or from unwillingness to seek help, and not asking for help
  • mrchokshi Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A3 Many Ts & Admin complain ELs are disengaged or don't do HW but often the root cause is lack of scaffolding & differentiation. #ellchat
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2) I have a SPED-EL who knows 5 words in Eng and 5 words in Spa. ALL not words appropriate 4 school. Very funny/not funny problem #ellchat
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A3 laziness, lack of parental involvement #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A3. Usually similar, that the ELL isn’t following directions and is silly, or even bothering others. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Q3 Do you think your view of ELL challenging behavior is similar or different from how other teachers see it? #ELLCHAT
  • thompsonav3 Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3) not participating or trying in class. Failure to complete task #gwd50esol #ELLchat
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT We always tell our colleagues -- lack of result does not indicate lack of effort. People who struggle are not lazy.
    In reply to @MsTaraDye
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3: Excessive talking in native language (during instruction, not translation) #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3 One of my greatest challenges is to think of ways for Ss to authentically participate in ways that they feel comfortable #equity #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3. Also jumping to the conclusion that there’s “something else going on” with said students, instead of considering ELP levels #ellchat
  • toripierson17 Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3 Always “talking”. Usually I see it happen in classrooms with lots of teacher talk. Ss get frustrated with not understanding. #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3 I sometimes hear from ESL teachers that other tchrs complain to them as if to ask ESL tchr to “fix” the problem with ELL student #ELLCHAT
  • educ8orSmith Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    If ss are compliant or appear to be compliant Ts triage the ss as ok when in reality they are not. #ellchat
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3 its a hybrid. We see similar behaviors but have different reasons for the why of the behavior #ELLCHAT
  • AndreaHonigsfel Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3: A lot of teachers at the secondary level are concerned about ELLs not being annoyed, not caring, not doing work, giving up #ellchat
  • sa_humphreys Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3) No effort in class, playing around. 9 times out of 10, Ss don't understand & need more scaffolding,support w/something at home. #ellchat
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 I try not to 'label' behaviors as 'lazy' or other attributes, but rather describe behavior as objectively as possible. #ellchat
  • thompsonav3 Oct 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3) I'm not sure. I feel mostly challenging behavior is due to lack of understanding #gwd50esol #ELLchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3 Understanding the Impact of Language Differences on Classroom Behaviors article https://t.co/8HU72M0aOJ #ELLCHAT
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3) interesting question. When you don’t have words to express yourself, you might show disappointment in distructive ways. #ELLCHAT
  • gwdesolsm Oct 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3 Students not paying attention, looking around the room #ellchat #gwd50esol
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 The strongest Ts report the least challenges & the most successes w/ ELLs. I get so much energy watching the Ts do their magic. #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Q4 So, how do you get your ELL students engaged in classroom work and learning to overcome those behaviors? #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 Living between the desire for Ss to participate & engage, when still adjusting, is so challenging. Can’t do too much too soon. #ellchat
  • sarahdavisESL Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Sarah Davis, ELL educator for elementary and middle school in North Carolina. Happy to join for a little while tonight! 😊 #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3. Tchrs who had ELLs w these behaviors in the past are more often positive than those who haven’t-they have seen the transition #ellchat
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3 right on @HollyannaBates ! Providing supports for engaging lessons usually leads to better behavior #ELLCHAT
    • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
      A3 The strongest Ts report the least challenges & the most successes w/ ELLs. I get so much energy watching the Ts do their magic. #ellchat
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A4 One thing I always ask myself is "What should the student be doing at this time?" Then I model or pair with another student...
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A4 @judiehaynes often recommends project based learning and advises tchrs to carefully set teams to support ELLs #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Agreed! #ellchat
    In reply to @easkelton
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A4 The most impt instructional tool: relationships. W/empathy for their situations. And discovering their Funds of Knowledge #ELLCHAT
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4: Personally meaningful art! Visuals help to break the language barrier. #ELLCHAT
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4 Start w/ what they CAN DO, create supports so they can do more (visuals, manipulative, partners, L1) #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3 I’ve had preK tchrs show surprise “I never realized that they might be acting that way because they didn’t understand!” :( #ELLCHAT
  • dmarigutierrez Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4 clear, observable, explicit behaviors that are taught, modeled, practiced, repeat. These help Ss engage in learning. #ELLCHAT
  • AndreaHonigsfel Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4: Mentoring and relationship building are among the most powerful ways of ensuring positive enangemnet and behavior #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A4 It is good to follow the learn one, do one, teach one model. Students can add value and feel valued by passing on knowledge.
  • sa_humphreys Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4) Sentence frames (that Ss can use in other classes) and role-play practice help build confidence for my LTELs. #ellchat
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4 relationships are key. Know your students limit the language need when possible #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4 First, learn what makes the person tick, then ask what makes the student tick. Connect to background and boost engagement! #ELLCHAT
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3) some ELs- particularly newcomers also have to understand USA school. We have parents who think it is a drop in/come when u want #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4. Learning to find balance-letting go when I can, not fighting all the battles. I also have been adding more movement to my class #ellchat
  • toripierson17 Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4 I push in all day, so getting all Ts to do small groups, PBL often is very difficult. I’m walking around helping 1-on-1. Advice? #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4 I worked w/ a prK tchr once who introduced a Spanish song in December - those poor kids waited months for that. Why? #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A4. Also find out what motivates your ELLs & use that to your advantage in the classroom #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A4 I think the most important thing is to make that student’s first day go well. Good start prevents so many problems! #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A4 Relationships Relationships Relationships Relationships Relationships Relationships Relationships Relationships Relationships #ellchat
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A4 smaller groups whenever possible #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A4 I also think setting up an intentional and supportive environment helps ELL feel comfortable/competent even when you’re busy #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Can be so frustrating for us educators! So hard when different cultures value different things such as education, family, etc #ellchat
    In reply to @DCPSMiddleELLs
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    A4 I agree, Tara. In fact I’m on a crusade to end whole group lessons and “circle time” in preschools. I might lose some friends! #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT Routines can be so comforting. If a student knows what's coming, s/he will feel secure to try new things.
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • icivics Oct 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Cameron D. Torti @BaylorSOE '17 Fellow shares his thoughts on content acquisition for ELLs https://t.co/MHp8HMwb14 #ELLchat #ESLchat #sschat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4 I believe for young children, every time you do whole group activity you are planning to leave some children out of learning. #ELLCHAT
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4) correct partnering can be a real great tool for engaging which ultimately helps with behavior. But not easy. #ELLCHAT
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Might be tough, I do think there is some value in whole group times but not as much as we tend to think. #ellchat
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 In prek we want picture schedules showing routines in every class - maybe would be good for all ages! #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4 We’ve thought about starting a family mentor program to support new families and welcome them to school + routines. #ellchat
  • cathypetreebeck Oct 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Leading Learning for ELL Students: Strategies for Success Routledge https://t.co/prEjJz9v3R via @amazon #ellchat
  • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A1 Jenny Vo, Katy ISD, Texas, ESL ISST. Joining late! #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT Definitely. My students are adults, but they love to know what's next. That way they can prepare and feel ready.
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Very interesting point, I’ve never considered that! But it’s absolutely true. #ellchat
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • ValentinaESL Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4 make content comprehensible, engaging & compelling for #ELLs~ creating an environment where they feel connected & included #ellchat
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    I agree! Boardmaker images are helpful for different groups of students. #ELLCHAT
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    I definitely recommend. Full disclosure: I watched them write the book! #ELLCHAT
    In reply to @cathypetreebeck, @amazon
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    🙌🏽🙌🏽 it is helpful for everyone! #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4 Yes, @MrC_A2 We should include working with families to address challenging behaviors of ELLs. Ex. Stress and trauma at home! #ELLCHAT
  • Toppel_ELD Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4) I would add that content needs to be relevant. Figure out a way to connect with Ss and incorporate their likes/interests #EllChat
    • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      A4 Start w/ what they CAN DO, create supports so they can do more (visuals, manipulative, partners, L1) #ellchat
  • michelleshory Oct 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Michelle from KY, joining late! #ELLCHAT
  • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A2: We recently had a newcomer who would do silly things to get her classmates to laugh, even though she knew it was wrong. #ELLCHAT
  • ValentinaESL Oct 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I agree! Relevance matters #Ellchat @Toppel_ELD
    In reply to @Toppel_ELD, @Toppel_ELD
  • Toppel_ELD Oct 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    That is an awesome idea! We just talked about what systems we have in place for new families esp newcomers #ellchat
    In reply to @MrC_A2
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A4 Don’t forget - our cohost @Judiehaynes just published book about this https://t.co/viX74eXDUm Teaching to Strengths #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A4 I’ve also asked ss who have been in our EL Program for several years to share their experiences with new students, Ss love this. #ellchat
  • Toppel_ELD Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A1) Hi Everyone. I’m Katie and I’m an K-5 ELD Specialist in Oregon. #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    We’re also working on getting our school handbook/manual translated into the major languages for new families! #ELLCHAT
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A2 Anything to get out of doing the work that reveals you are struggling! #ELLCHAT
    • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
      A2: We recently had a newcomer who would do silly things to get her classmates to laugh, even though she knew it was wrong. #ELLCHAT
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    @cathypetreebeck where do you find the time! Look forward to reading your latest! #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Yes -I imagine sometimes this is how newcomers try to connect w/ other students in their own way since language isn’t always common #ellchat
    In reply to @JennyVo15
  • michelleshory Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A4 Dialogue journals are a powerful way to connect with Ss and improve engagement — which will lead to better behavior. #ELLCHAT
  • ValentinaESL Oct 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Right, it's a diversion #Ellchat
    • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      A2 Anything to get out of doing the work that reveals you are struggling! #ELLCHAT
      • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
        A2: We recently had a newcomer who would do silly things to get her classmates to laugh, even though she knew it was wrong. #ELLCHAT
  • Toppel_ELD Oct 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A2) challenging behaviors I see— disengagement/tuning out and fixed mindset (I’m not good at this... I cant do this) #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4 Free resource: Raising Young Children in a New Country - in several languages - great handbook https://t.co/CVFUhfkRkf #ELLCHAT
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    @Toppel_ELD indeed--relevance is essential--connecting to Ss lives and interests! #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Question 5 How do you determine if behavior is from language difference or other issues? #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I’ve never heard of this - what are dialogue journals!? Tell me more! Sounds great! #Ellchat
    In reply to @michelleshory
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A4 2nd most impt tool: check 4 und. Are they getting it? How do you know? Is the content comp? What lang are U teaching & is it eff?#ELLCHAT
  • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A3: In Math, not showing their work—they just know it or did it in their heads. Not doing HW; parents not monitoring #ELLCHAT
  • jaheldan Oct 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Differentiating instruction https://t.co/UIjhnztaus #WIDA #ESL #TeacherFriends #educhat #ellchat #TEACHers #teacherlife #k12 #Ellchat_BkClub
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 relationships are key in this and it helps to have ongoing formative assessments w/min Lang required #ELLCHAT
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A5 Sometimes the issue is culture rather than language. But by tackling surface comprehension we build trust to go deeper.
  • VioletaRGamez Oct 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    This is something we need to really be careful about. Once Ts think this abt a S that's the lens they will always see S #ellchat
    • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      A3. Also jumping to the conclusion that there’s “something else going on” with said students, instead of considering ELP levels #ellchat
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5. An age old question! Something I’m still trying to learn more about myself! I usually start with determining abilities in L1 #ellchat
  • cathypetreebeck Oct 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 Check for comprehension all of the time! Do Ss understand? How do you know? #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A4 and top tip to see if they are getting it? Never ask them “do you get it?” ;) We need lots of strategies to check understanding #ELLCHAT
    • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
      A4 2nd most impt tool: check 4 und. Are they getting it? How do you know? Is the content comp? What lang are U teaching & is it eff?#ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    I couldn’t agree with you more! #ellchat
    In reply to @VioletaRGamez
  • michelleshory Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    https://t.co/2yRESYxCxZ #ELLChat (I’ve used a simple notebook. Builds stamina and fluency, too! )
    In reply to @theESLlady
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5 you want this answered in a tweet?! Body of evidence, parent interview, observations, Tier 1 instruct., interventions #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5 Great point. Even harder with prek or K We need tchrs to commit to just sitting w/ child and playing w/ them in the moment #ELLCHAT
  • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A4: I try to develop a relationship with the students. Let them know I’m there to support them. Build up their confidence. #ELLCHAT
  • ChrisHomiak Oct 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A1: Chris, 6-8 Grade ELL Teacher in KC, MO #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Very cool. Thanks for sharing! #Ellchat
    In reply to @michelleshory
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5 Listen, Beth. You just start a series like this: "Tweet 1 of 60” and then you can go on as long as you like! :) #ELLCHAT
    • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
      A5 you want this answered in a tweet?! Body of evidence, parent interview, observations, Tier 1 instruct., interventions #ellchat
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Right! Or ones that lack visuals/modeling! #ellchat
    In reply to @Toppel_ELD
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5: It’s difficult to tell sometimes. Visual cues & student translators help; sometimes facial expressions imply more #ELLCHAT
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5 SO hard. Consistent monitoring systems will help track achievement + relationships give a whole picture of where students are at #ellchat
  • VioletaRGamez Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    My guess would be more from lack of deep understanding. Depending on PL Ss may not know how 2 ask for help.Scaffolding might help #ellchat
    In reply to @PSCCESOL, @AndreaHonigsfel
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5 in preK it is a MUST that you assess child in both of their languages AND ask family about language used at home #ELLCHAT
  • HollyannaBates Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5Wondering if we need 2 know why beh is happening. Let's focus on doing what it takes 2 engage & find success. Every min counts!#ELLCHAT
  • toripierson17 Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5 Make sure comprehension checks match can-dos for level. Allow Ss to approach/respond to content in many ways. L1 support!! #ellchat
  • Toppel_ELD Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Modeling is SO inportant! What does it look like? What will it sound like? #ellchat
    In reply to @PSCCESOL
  • AndreaHonigsfel Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5: Undesirable behavior is tends to be the result of complex issues, not just one reason! beware of quick/simple explanations #ellchat
  • michelleshory Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5 Conferencing is also powerful. Set goals. Ask students to self reflect on their performance , effort and behaviors. #ELLCHAT
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5 This book helps: Dual Language Development & Disorders 3rd ed. https://t.co/xME9sSfVNL #ELLCHAT
  • AndreaHonigsfel Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5: Undesirable behavior tends to be the result of complex issues, not just one reason! beware of quick/simple explanations #ellchat
  • Toppel_ELD Oct 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    And also find strengths! Those can be leveraged to build confidence! #ellchat
    In reply to @theESLlady
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A5 Agree! Nobody fits in just one basket! #ELLCHAT So easy to forget this!
    • AndreaHonigsfel Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
      A5: Undesirable behavior tends to be the result of complex issues, not just one reason! beware of quick/simple explanations #ellchat
  • DCPSMiddleELLs Oct 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A5 we have 2 pay attention 2 high interest/low reading materials. I’d B insulted 2 if I was taught w/ pics of teddy bears/Balloons #ellchat
  • MrC_A2 Oct 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A5 Starting the year can be challenging b/c Ts are establishing class behaviors + routines, but lang. frustrations can hinder this. #ellchat
  • ChrisHomiak Oct 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A2: Mostly LTELs - Pretending to understand; Mocking other ELLs for their accent or reading skills; challenges code-switching appropriately between adults and students #ELLCHAT
  • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A5: Be a detective. Talk to the student, talk to the parents, talk to the teacher. It will probably be a lot of reasons, not one.#ellchat
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    YES! @AndreaHonigsfeld and many undesirable ELL behaviors are similar to behaviors from learning issues #ellchat
    • AndreaHonigsfel Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
      A5: Undesirable behavior tends to be the result of complex issues, not just one reason! beware of quick/simple explanations #ellchat
  • VioletaRGamez Oct 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A4) build background knowledge, visuals, modeling & cooperative learning whn possible #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A5 Bilingual Language Development and Disorders book by @Goldstein25 https://t.co/OMOLmjGuzL #ELLCHAT
  • Rachael_Givens Oct 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    @The_Mrs_Parker @tallmanENL --Im printing and sharing this with Ts. Especially for the beginning of the hear. #ellchat
  • profnoury Oct 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    I’m not an ELL teacher but a FL teacher. However, I love following #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A5 My article w/ @pambrillante Teaching Emerging Bilingual Learners w/ Disabilities & Challenging Behaviors https://t.co/XOHhrRWrta #ELLCHAT
  • michelleshory Oct 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A4) Has anyone mentioned a social contract? @MsSalvac provides an amazing framework in her book Boosting Achievement. And it works! #ELLCHAT
  • cathypetreebeck Oct 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    #ellchat
  • PIESartBCPS Oct 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Good point. School counselors may also have some insight to offer. #ELLCHAT
    • JennyVo15 Oct 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
      A5: Be a detective. Talk to the student, talk to the parents, talk to the teacher. It will probably be a lot of reasons, not one.#ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Question 6 Any surprises to share about coping with challenging behaviors? Innovative solution? Valuable tool or resource? #ELLCHAT
  • ChrisHomiak Oct 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A3: Different: I consider how acculturation, internalized oppression, cross-cultural mis-understandings may impact dynamics #ELLCHAT
  • ChrisHomiak Oct 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A3: Other teachers report LTEL defiance/disrespect, non-stop talking, organization skills, missing homework or signature pages #ELLCHAT
  • theESLlady Oct 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6. Stay positive, put yourself in the ELLs shoes #ellchat
  • KarenNemethEdM - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6 How about asking challenging student to help another - to be the valued partner in class? #ELLCHAT
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A6 just don’t give up. It might not be easy hit will so be worth it! #ellchat
  • PSCCESOL Oct 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    #ELLCHAT A6 I read and reread Anne Fadiman's The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down -- full of important questions...
    In reply to @KarenNemethEdM
  • easkelton Oct 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A6 Home visits, honest talk w/Ss, advice from colleagues who seem to have made a connection #ELLCHAT
  • MsTaraDye Oct 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for the great chat everyone I’m heading to bed! Loved the convo tonight! #ellchat