#ELLCHAT Archive
#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.
Monday May 23, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Time for
#ELLCHAT
! Q1) Please post your name, your school and what level you teach.
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A1: Shaeley, K12 ESL instructional coach from Central Iowa. Previously HS ESL.
#ELLChat
Molly_Stov
May 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
Molly Stovall, Nashville K-12
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Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A1 Kathy from Houston, TX. I teach 5th grade bilingual at Zwink
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A1) Judie Haynes, retired ESL teacher. currently author, & prof. dev. provider from NJ.
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ESOL_Odyssey
May 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A1: I'm Laurah, an Elementary ESOL Instructional Coach in Maryland!
#ELLchat
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A1) Emily, 1st time on the chat; Literacy professor and coach for schools w ELLs grades 1-8 in NYC.
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
May 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A1 Maggie from IL - EL/Bilingual Specialist/Consultant for
@IL_Resource_Ctr
&
@Paridad_US
#ellchat
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A1: Steffany Snell, West Lawn, PA, K-5 ESL
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eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
Monica Schnee, River Edge NJ K-1
#ellchat
Paridad_US
May 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A1 Paridad Education Consulting - a group of EL/Bilingual education consultants that work around the US
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ELLCHAT
!
https://t.co/Fy5aIDSbN9
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A1) Emily, 1st time on the chat; Literacy professor and coach for schools w ELLs grades 1-8 in NYC.
#ELLCHAT
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1) Sharon Glenn, former K-7 ESL teacher and Rdg. Recovery too (especially interested tonight,) in IA now in PA.
#ELLCHAT
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1: Carmen from Kentucky K-5 ESL teacher
#ellchat
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1 Kirsten, Woodville Wa, MS ELL
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1) Build you PLN and follow the participants on
#ELLCHAT
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@EmilyAmieWitty
Welcome! You will be a great addition to our conversation. Hang w/ us anytime!
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1 hi - I'm Karen , cohost of
#ellchat
author/presenter on ELLs and DLLs in early childhood
https://t.co/KPk1jEedyS
amgonza
May 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hello
#ellchat
. Anabel, ESL teacher from NC. Great topic tonight but can't stay long.
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Thank you!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/B52SsuBjmM
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@EmilyAmieWitty
Welcome! You will be a great addition to our conversation. Hang w/ us anytime!
#ellchat
lfortewilliams
May 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Larissa from Indiana. HS social studies w/ELL Inclusion.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q2) What are the challenges for teaching ELLs to comprehend what they read?
#ELLCHAT
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2 definitely the developing vocabulary is a challenge to teach ELL comprehension.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2) ELLs have problems with the density of unfamilar vocabulary in a text
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HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2: Vocabulary is big challenge. Often a gap in how many words ELLs know compared to grade level expectations.
#ELLChat
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2: Vocabulary, real world connection
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eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2 different schema or lack of it building background knowledge text density figurative language phonics vocab critical thinking
#ellchat
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2) Vocabulary, lack of prior knowledge, cultural references, allusions
#ELLCHAT
this is esp. true w my Ss
https://t.co/Ldhd9zINYJ
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q2) What are the challenges for teaching ELLs to comprehend what they read?
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2 big challenge in prek is convincing teachers to build knowledge foundations in L1 first
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: Differences in text structures, by text type and/or cultural patterns make comprehension more challenging.
#ELLChat
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2) Making sure comprehension measurement and questions match what they know, questions = writing or speaking, comp. =reading.
#ellchat
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2) In RR, you ask Does that look right? Does that sound right? Does that make sense? but those ?s don't always work w/ ELLs.
#ellchat
Paridad_US
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 1 of our associates wrote a great blog on building background and CCSS
https://t.co/yGmirRVkF4
#ellchat
https://t.co/KuYAsdTJwb
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2 big challenge in prek is convincing teachers to build knowledge foundations in L1 first
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 also, Ss have a limited background in their 1st language then it'll get in the way of comprehension. We must build 1st language
#ELLCHAT
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Such a good point!! And not just for PreK
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/XK6at47SxN
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2 big challenge in prek is convincing teachers to build knowledge foundations in L1 first
#ellchat
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
I see that as a big problem in MS too, prior knowledge plays a big role.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2) abundance idioms and figurative language in text.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 Many earlyed teachers think holding up a picture should be enough but really young ones don't even know what the picture is!
#ellchat
tofubeth
May 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 Vocab, background knowledge, colloquialisms, humor,
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
many times in prek -k it is not possible for tcrs to use L1, yes for SS so visuals or bilingual books if available
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@EmilyAmieWitty
I agree with the lack of cultural reference...good point
#ELLCHAT
lfortewilliams
May 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: vocabulary and text structure. Esp expository text
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Please answer Q2 with A2 and so forth so.
#ELLCHAT
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2) and multiple meanings so even if Ss knows one meaning, may still be lost bc context could be wrong
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/l89MdvTNwX
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2: Vocabulary is big challenge. Often a gap in how many words ELLs know compared to grade level expectations.
#ELLChat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
building L1 is imperative and often overlooked in order to speed up the L2 acquisition process.
#ELLCHAT
C_C_Mitchell
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
CHAT: Engaging the Families of English-Language Learners
https://t.co/V1VEBHsYEQ
#ellchat
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2) ELLs often read much slower than their peers because they're trying to manage everything you all are mentioning in your tweets.
#ellchat
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@EmilyAmieWitty
Good point!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 also earlyed teachers don't realize that props and visuals are still passive and young ELLs need to act AND produce!
#ellchat
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: different text types and the purpose of that type (poem, narrative, etc)
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
we must build experiences
#ELLCHAT
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Comprehension includes knowing vocabulary in context, they can know a word but need to understand more than that as well.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2) We are talking about the challenges in teaching reading comprehension strategies to ELLs.
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
A2 I like to begin modeling comp strats w/nonfiction tangible concrete easier to access then move on to literature
#ellchat
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@Kathy_Vergara2
@KarenNemethEdM
Agree! Even if we don't know their L1 we can still encourage their growth in it!
#ELLCHAT
amgonza
May 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
5 Websites and Tech Tools to Motivate Reading Practice -
https://t.co/M33ZPvLRFm
via
@Candace_Davies
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@eltcarmelita
great point about understanding the authors purpose for writing
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) unfamiliarity with drawing conclusions, analyzing characters and predicting outcomes
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Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@kikadams88
YES! Common misconception!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
So for prek and k ELLs getting them to tell YOU about the story is key to comprehension that may be overlooked
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@eslmonica
We aren't up to solutions yet. We're on challenges.
#ELLCHAT
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: The language demands of the strategies are challenging! What does it mean to draw conclusions or analyze?
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2) word order, sentence structure and syntax can impede the reading comprehension of ELLs.
#ELLCHAT
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: T challenge - finding skills Ss have in L1 to help transfer skills to L2; Ss challenge - knowing how to transfer L1 skills
#ellchat
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
building experiences to access some of plots bridging different cultural scenarios where SS have no frame of reference
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
3 ) What strategies do you use to explicitly teach reading comprehsion to ELLs
#ELLCHAT
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Two strategies I use a lot for teaching reading: Have students read the text 1st in native language or teach graphic novels/books.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 I think big challenge is time - ELLs need more time with info, more chances to work with It and time is hard to find
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@tofubeth
Please be sure to put
#ELLCHAT
on your tweets so everyone sees them.
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2) Also not being able to monitor for meaning so ELLs can't articulate what they're confused about. Find this w native speakers
#ELLCHAT
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Now I'm teaching Strange Fruit: Uncelebrated Narratives in Black History, graphic nonfiction by Joel Christian Gill. Accessible.
#ELLCHAT
Every1deServes
May 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
So many of my refugee students lack background knowledge needed to visualize
#ellchat
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@Steff_Snell
Agreed. So many times we need to define what they're being asked to do and then they are capable when understand task.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3) Resource Successful Strategies for teaching reading to middle grade ELLs
https://t.co/W54UnsAgKB
#ELLCHAT
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Can this be true for all Ss emerging in comprehension? How do we see this being more difficult for ells?
#ellchat
https://t.co/6hYJqMqzXB
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) unfamiliarity with drawing conclusions, analyzing characters and predicting outcomes
#ELLCHAT
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3: finding culturally responsive texts, engaging readers, building background knowledge in engaging ways, wordless books
#ellchat
A_Human_Crisis
May 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
.
@Every1deServes
So many of my human students lack background knowledge needed to visualize
#ellchat
#HumanCrisis
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3) Modified Guided Reading, previewing vocabulary
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/6fEtKhUhSe
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
3 ) What strategies do you use to explicitly teach reading comprehsion to ELLs
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 use L1 build background knowledge, experientially if possible, pull key vocab to access text, use videos to support language
#ellchat
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I appreciate how my students like to take turns reading aloud in pairs--even if they don't understand the words they sound out!
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3) Resource: What’s Different About Teaching Reading to ELLs
https://t.co/rSKKBQ1NlK
#ELLCHAT
Every1deServes
May 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 we use 5 finger retelling and frequent stops to check in. Thinking maps to fill in plot elements too
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@Every1deServes
Can you elaborate on the 5 finger retelling strategy?
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2 challenge I hear often: if it's better to teach reading in L1 first, how do you not just translate from Eng reading lesson?
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@kikadams88
Not all cultures teach the same strategies for reading. ELLs may have difficulty with language and concepts.
#ELLCHAT
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Try to use the language everyday and model, model, model with read aloud, etc!
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
May 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 I use nonprint texts to teach rdg strategies - I've started putting all my nonprint strategies in 1 doc
https://t.co/IKbZqkHQoR
#ellchat
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I can see this being a helpful article for my content teaching peers in gr. 6-8. Thanks for sharing!
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Hello
#ellchat
, I teach ELL Ss in grades1,3,4,5. A little late but interested in topic.
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2 that's a big gap in our profession specially for prek and k
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/LgokFVkrD1
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@kikadams88
Not all cultures teach the same strategies for reading. ELLs may have difficulty with language and concepts.
#ELLCHAT
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@Steff_Snell
By "the language" I mean using words like analyze, draw conclusions, etc.
#ELLCHAT
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Reciprocal reading - Ss become the teachers, each focus on one type of comprehension strategy, work together to understand
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 front load vocabulary & background knowledge. Pre scan the text to determine the genre & how our brains will engage w/ it.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3) My blog on EL Reading Comprehension Strategies
https://t.co/vFRzlyHtmK
#ELLCHAT
Steff_Snell
May 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Have to head out
#ELLCHAT
Thanks for some helpful info! See you next time!
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
a3 Selecting culturally appropriate children's books
https://t.co/npKatTy6Vh
#ELLCHAT
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 culturally reflective text is amazing for engagement & to tap into their background knowledge.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q3) Model visualization techniques. Have ELLS imagine what is happening in the story.
#ELLCHAT
cate_janice
May 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 read aloud picture books on a theme using scholastics knowledge quest think aloud vocab preview kwl & summary in journal
#ellchat
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 I use graphic organizers to guide their thinking. I model and we have many discussions before they practice with partner.
#ellchat
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
I opened a few classes with having students read a text along with an audio book for Esperanza Rising. Just to mix things up.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 Dialogic reading strategies for dual language learners
https://t.co/1Bxtbq9dJq
#ELLCHAT
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: There are many Kagan strategies that are very helpful, for example timed pair share for comprehension questions
#ellchat
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3) Find this hard stimes when cultures are diff in class or texts reflect culture that my Ss don't share
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/ZQOsYZUe4F
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 culturally reflective text is amazing for engagement & to tap into their background knowledge.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3) Have ELLs visualize what is happening in the story. Reading Comprehension Strategies
https://t.co/vFRzlyHtmK
#ELLCHAT
MrsYanong
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q3 i'm on same page as
@maggieessig
. Also Check out my close read flipbook for strategy and modeling ideas
https://t.co/mvPd4zOTAH
#ELLCHAT
JessRowan22
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A2 Teaching students how to know which words are essential for comp. & which are skippable when faced w/dauntingly complex passages
#ELLCHAT
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@maggieessig
Cool tool, thanks for sharing. I like how it covers many types of comprehension.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/YCnYR9USzO
maggieessig
May 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 I use nonprint texts to teach rdg strategies - I've started putting all my nonprint strategies in 1 doc
https://t.co/IKbZqkHQoR
#ellchat
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 My Ss like to sketch while reading. Gives me an idea of their misconceptions.
#ellchat
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I do focus on actual strategies, too, but I believe first in compelling text. For example, I give away free comic books.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3) Teaching ELs to read nonfiction texts -
https://t.co/Tn7IrY17Mc
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3 thanks for resource will look to see how to match texts to readers worksp strategies then will select &share w/clsrm tcrs
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3 graphic organizers to draw conclusions, context clues & summary.
#ELLCHAT
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
finding out misunderstandings is crucial!
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3) I think making connections is key for reading comprehension.
https://t.co/I7w2g0YplI
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 yes! Great way to actively process the info!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/A9IljZQjC3
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 My Ss like to sketch while reading. Gives me an idea of their misconceptions.
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@EmilyAmieWitty
valid point. Great experience for cross-cultural awareness!
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
May 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3 I also had an academic conversation wall to help support students' discussions
#ellchat
https://t.co/J6oxLwTQ8n
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing this resource! I can see how it would be helpful to ELLs of many ages not just K-3.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/w8umoJpI1Z
MrsYanong
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q3 i'm on same page as
@maggieessig
. Also Check out my close read flipbook for strategy and modeling ideas
https://t.co/mvPd4zOTAH
#ELLCHAT
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
What I'm trying to say is conveying the EXPERIENCE of reading is as important as the strategies. How can I hook them in?
#ELLCHAT
tweets_angelina
May 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
a little late! a3: I think graphic organizers are really helpful, its a great tool to refer back to.
#ELLCHAT
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
I also allow my Ss to sketch to help with their visualization.
#ELLCHAT
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I find that trying to anticipate misunderstandings is also helpful
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/VfxBGi4lLg
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
finding out misunderstandings is crucial!
#ELLCHAT
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Thoughts on using audio books to increase comprehension?
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A3) Absolutely! We need to teach what is important in the text.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/4jZnQopN0d
JessRowan22
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A2 Teaching students how to know which words are essential for comp. & which are skippable when faced w/dauntingly complex passages
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Valentina from Tx. Jumping in late tonight
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A3 Storybook Reading for Young DLLs from
#naeyc
https://t.co/72paXePytb
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3 We spend a great deal of time on text structure. We use the text as mentor text for our own writing.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/Akagtd0FQR
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3) Teaching ELs to read nonfiction texts -
https://t.co/Tn7IrY17Mc
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3 yes - another reason why we have to get kids talking to support comprehension
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/vA0f6QeEWU
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
finding out misunderstandings is crucial!
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mazehr
I think ELLs need to be pre-taught the vocabulary and concepts before they read.
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
May 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Audiobooks are a great resource to teach reg andHOT skills to ELs. I still listen to audiobooks in the car!
#ellchat
https://t.co/SFMaRoUeaH
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Thoughts on using audio books to increase comprehension?
#ellchat
sarahklein_edx
May 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
This is one of my favorite things to do with my ELL Ss!
#ellchat
https://t.co/AbQGe01TFj
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 yes! Great way to actively process the info!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/A9IljZQjC3
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 My Ss like to sketch while reading. Gives me an idea of their misconceptions.
#ellchat
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@maggieessig
zwiers et al have routine clarify expand build on partner's talk my K Ss love asking for clarification then adding
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MrsYanong
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3- when using text dependent Qs, ELs need support w sentence frames to turn thoughts into responses.
https://t.co/Wysfsn1Ckt
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3) Teaching ELs the features of nonfiction text aids comprehension.
https://t.co/6QGV97loPA
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3 interactive read alouds R a great way to teach S how to comprehend text. Model your thinking for them
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/XWUryJA2Gz
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
3 ) What strategies do you use to explicitly teach reading comprehsion to ELLs
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
4) ) What do you think of the claim that materials used to teach ELLs are over-simplified
https://t.co/lEJ226uuK4
#ELLCHAT
sarahklein_edx
May 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
What are some strategies you use to help ELLs understand and engage in nonfiction?
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q4) What do you think of the claim that materials used to teach ELLs are over-simplified
https://t.co/ziRj1rAUwM
…
#ELLCHAT
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@mazehr
Agreed. I want them to feel like reading is to be enjoyed, a pleasurable activity not always something they have to do.
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Paridad_US
May 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
So important! Great resource,
@MrsYanong
!
#ellchat
https://t.co/G0GLwwKJge
MrsYanong
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3- when using text dependent Qs, ELs need support w sentence frames to turn thoughts into responses.
https://t.co/Wysfsn1Ckt
#ELLCHAT
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
yes! We use the text features to scan the text and gain understanding!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 sadly, article didn't address preschool- I was hoping for answers!
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Agree!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/Y6qdVPt2nU
MrsYanong
May 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3- when using text dependent Qs, ELs need support w sentence frames to turn thoughts into responses.
https://t.co/Wysfsn1Ckt
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@mazehr
agree picture walks reading to retell give opinion make connections favorite part good way to engage ss then do strats
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ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Lots of NF mentor texts. Nonfiction read alouds. Show kids what processes you go through as a reader of NF
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/gfzD3Mdwkr
sarahklein_edx
May 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
What are some strategies you use to help ELLs understand and engage in nonfiction?
#ellchat
TeachESLNow
May 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@kikadams88
One thing: I have students sequence pictures w/ a partner the first time they hear a new text as I read it to them.
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4: I agree ELLs need exposure to more complex text structures. However, comprehensibility is central. Matched scaffolds essential
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kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I find this to be a problem with MS Ss, beginning ELs. Need simplified language without over-simple content
#ellchat
https://t.co/LcDw8CcD12
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q4) What do you think of the claim that materials used to teach ELLs are over-simplified
https://t.co/ziRj1rAUwM
…
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A3 oh boy, I say this ALLLLL the time! We really need parents and admins to get over this too!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/q8H1SvOcL2
mcguire_ali
May 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
Too much time spent learning letters, names and sounds. :(
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eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4: we need to scaffold, but not dumb down the text. Exposure allows for Ss to learn in context
#ellchat
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
ELLs need plenty of opportunities to talk @ text. Sentence stems, visual supports and books that R just right fit
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4 anyone use
https://t.co/wEjkhH1NE3
or
@LanguageLizard
catalogs?
#ELLCHAT
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Pre-teaching vocab & concepts is good. I also try to avoid overkill. I like to make a visual dictionary.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/59A5fRbg4v
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@mazehr
I think ELLs need to be pre-taught the vocabulary and concepts before they read.
#ELLCHAT
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
A4) I tried to open this link and it was not found. Is there another way to get to it?
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4 I agree, ELL Ss need to be exposed to multiple and authentic text. Not a textbook.
#ellchat
sarahklein_edx
May 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
A3 my colleagues and i focus on strategies for unknown words like picture clues, chunking words, etc.
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emilyfranESL
May 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I should go to bed but I'm loving all the fascinating resources I'm getting
@judiehaynes
#ellchat
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4) ELL texts have support not simplified & w
#reading
online Ss toggle for vocab & click for addl info
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/z2Po4whVEM
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q4) What do you think of the claim that materials used to teach ELLs are over-simplified
https://t.co/ziRj1rAUwM
…
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4) People who are not in the classroom don't understand the ELLs we have sitting in front of us.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/9oSi0GZGYj
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4: I agree ELLs need exposure to more complex text structures. However, comprehensibility is central. Matched scaffolds essential
#ELLChat
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4 for literature I use great authors not specific to ELs modify as I go good lit is essential way to learn about language culture
#ellchat
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
absolutely! Authentic literature is key!
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4) The demand for grade level complex texts is not reasonable for beginning & low intermediate ELLs.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A4 ELLs shld receive text that matches their Lang &literacy level.That doesn't mean dumbed down-rather accommodated 2 mt Lang nds
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Not familiar with the program. Do Ss like it?
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/2nvOTihi7d
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4 anyone use
https://t.co/wEjkhH1NE3
or
@LanguageLizard
catalogs?
#ELLCHAT
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
If we know our students well, it's easier to get the right fit. "Book Whisperer" is the phrase, right?
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/ahetYGuZBx
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
ELLs need plenty of opportunities to talk @ text. Sentence stems, visual supports and books that R just right fit
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
yes! multiple & authentic
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4 I agree
@judiehaynes
- many times super simple IS needed to give ELL the beginning content knowledge
#ELLCHAT
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4 We need to differentiate for the various levels to fit our ELLs needs. It's not a one size fits all!
#ELLCHAT
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4 (pt 2) materials do not need to be overly simplified we as educators must scaffold to meet Ss needs.
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4: Long-term ELLs need a supported challenge. Sometimes slow to adjust to levels if we aren't assessing frequently.
#ELLchat
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
We must meet our S where they are. The reading level must match the S needs. But the goal/obj should be grade level appropriate
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4) I love National Geographic. nonfiction books. I find the mixture of text and pictures, graphs, etc. aid comprehension.
#ELLCHAT
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
💜💜🎉 exactly!
#ellchat
https://t.co/QcCXtwkcU1
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4 We need to differentiate for the various levels to fit our ELLs needs. It's not a one size fits all!
#ELLCHAT
TeachESLNow
May 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
Absolutely! And I would add they *must* have repeated comprehensible experiences of those complex texts.
#familiar
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
ELLs deserve equal access to grade level curriculum. That can happen in ADAPTED text to meet their literacy needs
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q5) What changes has Common Core reading made in the way you teach ELLs to read.
#ELLCHAT
emilyfranESL
May 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A4) I use
https://t.co/J3mcHNkGI1
and provide my students with complex text but scaffolds vocabulary!
#ellchat
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A4 I agree, scaffold with the help of visuals and videos to help Ss understand.
#ellchat
https://t.co/xoqXgC6DpZ
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A4: we need to scaffold, but not dumb down the text. Exposure allows for Ss to learn in context
#ellchat
eltcarmelita
May 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A4: In Early Elem it is common to stick to fiction picture books- gotta vary the texts!
#ELLCHAT
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
You're on to something that student misconceptions can really guide where we go next in our teaching.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/UInnGwWTUo
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 My Ss like to sketch while reading. Gives me an idea of their misconceptions.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A4 I also worry why teachers said it's so hard to find books & materials - could be they don't know where to look??
#ELLCHAT
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A4 nat geo benchmark & newbridge are great for nonfiction
@HSeslteacher
even have modified texts per ELP
#ellchat
MrsYanong
May 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A4- yes-and not a one shot deal... Integrated content units allow time for texts at variety of complexities
#ellchat
https://t.co/55CdWbmLPA
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4 I agree
@judiehaynes
- many times super simple IS needed to give ELL the beginning content knowledge
#ELLCHAT
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
#ELLCHAT
Loving this group of professionals! Learning a great deal! So glad I found y'all!
kikadams88
May 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Repeated experiences are key! Pretty sure research supports 3x is the charm to retaining info.
#ellchat
https://t.co/FdTFYGYV8F
TeachESLNow
May 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
Absolutely! And I would add they *must* have repeated comprehensible experiences of those complex texts.
#familiar
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A5 TX has not adopted CC
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/oNL99yIEtQ
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q5) What changes has Common Core reading made in the way you teach ELLs to read.
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@emilyfranESL
My blog post on how to use Rewordify
https://t.co/fV6wRWwyIs
#ELLChat
eslmonica
May 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A4@KarenNemethEdM part of problem some great material shld be modified by us for ELs they shld not miss out on great authors
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A4) I agree. Beginning ELLs in 6th grade social studies class need a differentiated experience.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/Roi9Yf3I4C
Kathy_Vergara2
May 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4 We need to differentiate for the various levels to fit our ELLs needs. It's not a one size fits all!
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
May 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Many great links & resources shared on
#ELLChat
tonight. Available via our
@Diigo
group
https://t.co/a7b4mC6upa
EmilyAmieWitty
May 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A5) good Q. I work in private schools so we have more flexibility w
#CommonCore
. What are others doing?
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/d6GFNbuSIm
judiehaynes
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q5) What changes has Common Core reading made in the way you teach ELLs to read.
#ELLCHAT
ValentinaESL
May 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A4 put yourself in their shoes. If U moved 2 a new country, do u think u could handle grade level text right away?
#ELLCHAT
SharonJKGlenn
May 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Love these ideas- Makes sense to have them illustrate to learn their confusions and then use as a guide.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/wRhJZ0Riou
mazehr
May 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
You're on to something that student misconceptions can really guide where we go next in our teaching.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/UInnGwWTUo
DdelaneyDiana
May 23 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 My Ss like to sketch while reading. Gives me an idea of their misconceptions.
#ellchat
Paridad_US
May 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A5 1 change is that all Ts are seeing listening and speaking as a priority now. Great opportunity for EL/biling Ts to collaborate
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
May 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Goodnight
#ELLCHAT
time to drive home from airport! Loved this topic so much I've been in the parking garage all this time. Thanks all!
eslmonica
May 23 @ 10:00 PM EDT
A4 Good night everyone - thanks for another great chat!
#ellchat