#RuralEdChat Archive

#RuralEdChat is a chat that focuses on the needs of the rural educator. This chat has been revised by Tammy Neil (@MathNeil), John Martin (@edventures) and Natalee Stotz (@nataleestotz).

Tuesday January 22, 2019
8:30 PM EST

  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Also, my #RuralEdChat peeps... I'm finding the responses of some of my class parents to my 2nd grade MLK Jr curriculum content interesting. Couple were in the "I'm not touching that" vein when I suggested families continue the conversation at home. Your thoughts?
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Good evening #RuralEdChat! How is everyone doing tonight?
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Exhausted. We did diagnostic testing today and spent 2.5 hours locked in zero hour #ruraledchat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hey Sharon. I cringed when I read that people responded that way. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:34 PM EST
    That's a major letdown. And plain problematic. Parents talking to their kids should be the ultimate space for safe learning #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:34 PM EST
    O.o "liking" your tweet doesn't feel right, but sending you lots of sympathy for that."Exhausting" is the perfect word for those days #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:35 PM EST
    LOL You are too sweet by half. But don't stop! I love it. #RuralEdChat #DontEncourageHer I will add that @AnnKSchulte1 & @Rural_Schools & I participated in a great #RuralEdRecruitandRetain conference in S. Dakota that remains, to this day, one of my favorites.
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Good evening, #RuralEdChat Tuning into the chat while finishing up watching our new governor deliver his first State of the State Address. He's a former educator, principal, and state superintendent. My heart is full at having an educator in office.
  • TG_Neil - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Hey, all. I'm here, but not feeling up to par. I'll probably turn in early to be ready for tomorrow. #RuralEdChat
  • TG_Neil - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Those conversations are so desperately needed at home. So sad to hear parents shy away from it. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:38 PM EST
    In all honesty, I think if more (potential) educators experienced first-hand the warm supportive collaboration of this #RuralEdChat & that conference, we'd have a recruitment tool right there. I think a big rural selling point is our #ruraled community.
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:38 PM EST
    We get to do it again tomorrow. Hopefully the WiFi doesn’t crash. Infrastructure problems #ruraledchat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Rest up Tammy! We certainly don't keep great educators by working them ragged! #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @TG_Neil
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:39 PM EST
    I know, right?!?!?! Aaargh! Thank you. Thank you all for your validation & support on this. #RuralEdChat #GoodVent
    In reply to @TG_Neil
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:39 PM EST
    EVERS! EVERS! EVERS! EVERS! #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:39 PM EST
    We had to hire an emergency license for ELA. Y’all, ELA teachers are everywhere. And so now we may have *two* openings in ELA next year #RuralEdChat
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:40 PM EST
    He did a fantastic job. His heart and commitment shine through. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Feel better, Tammy. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @TG_Neil, @SHuggins67
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:41 PM EST
    To get started tonight, given our topic is recruiting rural educators, I'd love to hear about your path into rural edu. Did you grow up in a rural setting, and never planned it any other way? Are you a city slicker like me who stumbled your way in? What's your story? #RuralEdChat
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:42 PM EST
    The other component of my program that I am a HUGE proponent of is that we did a full-year apprenticeship residency in a rural school instead of the traditional move-around student-teacher model. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Crazy question, but was it a paid apprenticeship or did you have to cover that? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I’m from the Seattle area originally. City girl through and through. My 2nd year I was hired in a rural system in Alabama. And I the tech equity issue became my “thing” #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:45 PM EST
    My system now is even smaller. Extremely well run, IMO. With a great admin. I love expanding kids minds outside of their community #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:46 PM EST
    There R many benies 2 the res model, but I wld argue that sense of mastery & familiarity from res lends itself 2 recruiting & retaining. I mean, 1 issue is rural-recruitment, but the other is profession-wide retainment. What's the standard? Loss in 5 yrs or less? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:47 PM EST
    WA -> AL is quite the hop! How'd you decide to make that move? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:48 PM EST
    I was a hybrid kid, raised part time in Illinois outside Chicago and the other part in rural Wisco on the farm. First part of edu career in CPS; majority in rural. Left the profession a few years ago but connected through my kiddo and volunteering. #ruraledchat
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Oooh, diagnostic testing. Good stuff, Maynard. What is zero hour? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach, @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:49 PM EST
    This is a huge point: "about 90 percent of annual teacher demand is associated with teachers leaving the profession" #RuralEdChat https://t.co/cZFz3XI7oD
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:49 PM EST
    We were living in PDX. Dh couldn’t find a teaching job. He got an offer in AL, so we moved about 15 yrs ago. COL is crazy low here. With MA you can afford to live #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:50 PM EST
    It’s like home room. 35 min. We feed the kids breakfast, do study skills and remediation #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Yes, safe learning & sense of the family's values & don't even get me started on the whole 'Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.' thing. And definitely don't get me started on the whole "current political climate" thing. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Yay! I've seen @AnnKSchulte1 post similar things about her excitement over educators in government. Good times. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @AnnKSchulte1
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:52 PM EST
    #RuralEdChat - normally, we guide a conversation with planned questions, but we hardly seem to need them tonight! I'll throw out an occasional question, but certainly stay with whatever conversation is most meaningful to you tonight!
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Probably a silly question, but do most kids get breakfast from school? I know ours do, and I wish we had a little more time planned for it #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach, @SHuggins67
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Ha! Tony Evers. He seems cool. My first thought was Medgar Evers. My head is totally in my Civil Rights unit (a favorite of mine). #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @robinhosemann
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:54 PM EST
    People are really looking for ways out of hard conversations. That they can get out of them and control when to have them is pwer and privilege. #ruraledchat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting
  • blambson Jan 22 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Born and raised rural, and I've been lucky enough to have a rewarding career in Education Technology. #ruraledchat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:55 PM EST
    We have free breakfast and lunch for all students. Most of my class doesn’t take it, but I have to bring them to the caf anyway. Eat in classroom #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @SHuggins67
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Good call. Sometimes we just have to go with the casual chat model. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:56 PM EST
    We share the caf with the elementary school so mealtime... has to be well planned and can take while. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @SHuggins67
  • blambson Jan 22 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Our district actually has district wide breakfast and lunch programs under Community Eligibility. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @ADDEnglishTeach, @SHuggins67
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:57 PM EST
    So NOT a crazy Q. It was an unpaid apprenticeship. We were considered student residents, similar 2 med residents. But, the program was supported by a fed grant, kinda like Northern Exposure. If U agreed to do 3 yrs post-grad in a rural school, you got to keep $11k. #ruraledchat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 8:58 PM EST
    That sounds cool. Do you like zero hour? It sounds so promising. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach, @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Q1: What role do you play in recruiting educators for your school*? #RuralEdChat *Or other rural institution!
  • ADDEnglishTeach Jan 22 @ 8:59 PM EST
    No. #ruraledchat it’s only useful if the kids buy in and they don’t.
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting
  • blambson Jan 22 @ 9:00 PM EST
    A1: I need to get in on the recruitment trips. They go to Oregon a lot. Any Oregonians want to come to rural Arizona? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:00 PM EST
    We have breakfast, second-chance breakfast/morning snack, lunch, & then there is supper in the after-school prog. Some families pay on account, others R on free & reduced programs. It is possible for a student to eat every meal at school. We also have summer meals #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @ADDEnglishTeach
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Sounds like an important investment that program was making. And pretty low-cost on the program end. PS Northern Exposure!! #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
    You make a good point. Some families don't have that 'luxury.' #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Sounds a bit burdensome in the practical-and-effective time-management area, which is a holy grail-or-hell spot for teachers. I'm moving from cool to dubious now. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach, @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I haven't heard this before - why is Oregon so good at recruiting rural teachers? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @blambson
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
    I've moved from cool to dubious to disappointed & disapproving. ;-) #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach, @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1: Directly, I talk up volunteering through the program I'm a part of and try to recruit others to specifically for the remote part of the program, which is growing it's rural and distance learning presence a ton #RuralEdChat
    • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 8:59 PM EST
      Q1: What role do you play in recruiting educators for your school*? #RuralEdChat *Or other rural institution!
  • blambson Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Programs that pay for college loans. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Ahh, was wondering if it came down to $$$$$ #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @blambson
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Yeah, it was great 4 the rural schools who received us 2. I did my residency at a K-2 in Butte County with a bunch of people from my cohort. Almost every teacher had a resident, which meant the staff doubled for only the cost of the mentorship of the staff teachers. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • blambson Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    It's definitely an incentive. The rare few actually stay long term. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
    OMG! I love #NorthernExposure. I felt very Fleischman+Maggie when I started working in my #ruralschool. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Q2: It's come up a few times tonight already, but retention (and lack of it) is a big part of why staff shortages happen. Why do people leave? What could your district due to increase retention? #RuralEdChat
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
    That's pretty beautiful to consider when everything else speaks of cuts and reductions in staff. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #CityGirl w/ major #CultureShock recruited by #CSUChico #RTR program for the good of rural comms. My master's program was hardcore rural-focused. Lots of reading & writing & researching & living & working rural in one relatively short period of time. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    What were some of the biggest lessons the program taught you about rural edu? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I was drawn to what I perceived to be the challenge + the community service. I knew it would be both engaging & rewarding & that it would push me, make me grow, & expand my horizons & understanding while also allowing me to contribute to an important part of America #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Also, as you know, I'm super into tech and I saw tech as a big solution resource for ruraled & I wanted to be a part of that. I love #EdTech+innovation for #RuralEd #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • blambson Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: It's really hard to be away from your core group, i.e., family and friends from your home town. It's hard to be in the middle of nowhere far from normal amenities. Our closest Walmart is 30 miles away with nothing in between. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • Rural_Schools Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    We're just scratching the surface on these issues, but there is stuff in here: https://t.co/glihF1bBAS #RuralEdChat https://t.co/KbNuIkSZsI
    • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:09 PM EST
      Q2: It's come up a few times tonight already, but retention (and lack of it) is a big part of why staff shortages happen. Why do people leave? What could your district due to increase retention? #RuralEdChat
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Yessssss! These look like a couple of awesome resources. Always love when you can chime in and share some knowledge! #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @Rural_Schools
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:19 PM EST
    I asked this question before I knew you were going to go on a roll. Keep it coming! TYPE FASTER! :) #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Examples: 1. One Teach, One Observe. 2. One Teach, One Assist. 3. Parallel Teaching. 4. Station Teaching. 5. Alternative Teaching 6. Team Teaching #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    OMG! Is that me panting or my fingers? Crack that virtual whip! #RuralEdChat p,s. Me, on a roll? Naaaaah. JK. LOL Dude.
    In reply to @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I gotta tell ya, when it works, when you have the resources & the right team, co-teaching is a beautiful thing (for all stakeholders). #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @robinhosemann, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • mrterborg Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I kind of miss that drive. #ruraledchat
    In reply to @blambson, @try_rebooting
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    The program I'm a part of (@tealsk12org) is focused on teaching teachers CS via co-teaching. Two teachers feels like way more than 2x one teacher #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @robinhosemann, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools, @tealsk12org
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I lived in the Seattle area for a while. I LOVE that area. Love. Seattle to Alabama is a big move. Culture shock much?!? I think it is ubercool the tech equity issue became your thing. Sounds like the topic for another #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @ADDEnglishTeach, @try_rebooting
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I know, right?!?!?!? #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @ADDEnglishTeach
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A couple years really feels like it would line up with the breaking point of rural being "what you do" vs "who you are". I wonder how much can be done about that mental shift #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @blambson
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Thank you for another great #RuralEdChat! I have a whole list of questions I didn't even get to, so we might come back to this topic again soon.
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
    & Matt, I would add that in a Title I low socioeconomic elem school like mine, not only do some kids have the opp to eat all meals here, but they get dental & hearing screenings, psych counseling services, & Healthy Start will clothe them & take them to dental appts. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @ADDEnglishTeach
  • robinhosemann - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
    a thousand times "yes" to this. I'm still working with my best co-teacher in grad school. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @SHuggins67, @try_rebooting, @AnnKSchulte1, @Rural_Schools
  • try_rebooting Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    In the mean time, always feel free to tag #RuralEdChat any of your rural conversations, and shout out any topics on your mind that you'd like to discuss! The chat really and truly belong to all of us, tonight being a prime example.
  • SHuggins67 Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I am a HUGE...HUUUUUUUUGE... fan of #HealthyStart & SNAP-Ed too. #RuralEdChat
    In reply to @try_rebooting, @ADDEnglishTeach