#ATchat Archive
#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday April 13, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
MrsMurat
Apr 13 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#atchat
Today we will discuss AT for students on the autism spectrum in honor of Autism Awareness Month.
#spedchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:01 PM EDT
This should be an exciting topic. My experience is this is a group of Ss who don't have access 2 the tech they need for independence
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hey now! AT Specialist from NJ & co-mod. Introduce yourself and tell us where you are from.
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:01 PM EDT
SR,
#actuallyautistic
severe sped T from MA
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@mmatp
Hi Mike - looking forward to this discussion tonight. So much to discuss!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
There is great variability in the learning profile of Ss on the spectrum so this is a very broad topic.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
We can divide it into categories but first speak more broadly about the topic.
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MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Maegan, SLP from CT
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darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Darla from Indiana, Evidence Based Practice fanatic.
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deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi guys. Playing semi hookie during a lecture. Will be in a tad. Mark autism specialist and Ed tech dir NY.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Welcome - great to have you join this conversation tonight - would love to hear your perspective and your insights.
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Hey Karen - looking forward to the group's insights about this topic
#Atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include the
#atchat
hashtag
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@MaegeK
@darlaashton
@deTechtive1
Hi! Hope all is well. Thanks for joining us!
#ATChat
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
#atchat
Sounds like a new gap-those expanding their thinking of literacy & those who think in a paper pencil world.
https://t.co/00On5GWFj2
mwilliamsAT
Apr 12 @ 8:32 PM EDT
So happy to hear that my daughter’s school introduced the kids to Voice Typing on their Chromebooks on day 1.
#atchat
#assistivetech
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@KarenJan
You might go say "from me to my students, and everyone in between." :)
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@deTechtive1
Your secret is safe with us! Glad to have you here
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@darlaashton
Hey Darla! Good to see you here tonight
#Atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
We have a lot of questions lined up - first one coming up.
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rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
#atchat
Ruth Ziolkowski from Don Johnston Inc Here for the first 15-20 min
KirschbaumB1
Apr 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Beth from CT 8th gr. SPED teacher
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@rziolkowski
Great to see you - loved what you just tweeted!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1:
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- What types of assistive technologies are you using with your students on the autism spectrum? What are your broad categories?
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@rziolkowski
Hi Ruth! Glad you can join us for part of
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@KirschbaumB1
Hi Beth - looks like you are new to Twitter - great you are here.
#ATchat
(you will want to change your profile pic!)
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@KarenJan
why not Autism Acceptance Month? - this community is very aware, but could use more acceptance!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1 - AT for video modeling, AT for learning and instruction - it is so overlooked with this population.
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darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: tech for writing, math and reading accessibility; visual schedules, prompting, reinforcement, video modeling
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MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: AAC, visual schedules, word prediction, writing, and video modeling.
#ATchat
MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@KirschbaumB1
Hi Beth! Excited to see you tonight!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@gallianstone
I thought they changed the name, so I was speaking broadly.
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
It is a pleasure to help lead this amazing group
#Atchat
https://t.co/5VJZYavgOH
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@mmatp
right back at ya! Thanks to you and Karen for being fearless leaders!
bcdtech
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hello from western MA... trying to multitask...be in and out.
#ATchat
KirschbaumB1
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: Unique Learning, MobyMax
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bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Looking forward to a rare opportunity to participate this evening...from Kearney, NE
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@bcdtech
You are always multitasking but we love that you can drop in every week!
#ATchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Judie from VA. Respecting Autism Awareness Month & observing OT Month.
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1. AAC, video, interactive lessons, picture supports, schedules, timers, more I'm not putting here. :)
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Woohoo! Love that you are here - Q3 has to do with research and would love your links!
#ATchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A$ says "Awareness" the Autistic Community says "Acceptance"
#atchat
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
#atchat
a1: Here is a great success story from IN
https://t.co/cZdH5jDgq5
from pictures to words to word prediction
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@JudithSchoonov1
And you're at the AOTA conference right now, right?
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Hey Brian! Glad you are here tonight
#ATchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
RT
@gallianstone
: A1. AAC, video, interactive lessons, picture supports, schedules, timers, more I'm not putting here. :) <
#atchat
KirschbaumB1
Apr 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@MaegeK
I'm usually just lurking.
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rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
#atchat
A1 Another great story of word prediction
https://t.co/TyXIPfT7jJ
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Ugh - Thanks for pointing that out to me. My mistake.
#ATchat
PattyATP
Apr 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Joining from Katy TX
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Starting in April
#ATchat
book club! First book: The End of Average by
@ltoddrose
4/27 chat will be Book Club discussion
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@PattyATP
Hi Patty - thanks for stopping by. looking forward to learning from you.
#ATchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A1 See how an LCPS OT embeds academics in functional life skills using low tech supports
https://t.co/UIFddpnzZd
#ATchat
#AOTA16
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@JudithSchoonov1
Thanks, will definitely watch it when the
#ATchat
is over.
https://t.co/bbYcmIxGjb
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A1 See how an LCPS OT embeds academics in functional life skills using low tech supports
https://t.co/UIFddpnzZd
#ATchat
#AOTA16
PattyATP
Apr 13 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Hello
@KarenJan
I am excited to join in tonight
#ATchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 again for myself: reminders, SIRI, calendars, GPS, note-taking apps,
@evernote
@trello
iPhone, Apple Watch
#atchat
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
#atchat
A1:We are seeing great writing success with First Author Plus evidence of outcomes
https://t.co/OqFi3xGtl3
Plan, Write Share!
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@mmatp
@ltoddrose
I am LOVING this! Just finished reading this. Count me in!!
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Great list of supports
#Atchat
https://t.co/N4JABGc71n
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 again for myself: reminders, SIRI, calendars, GPS, note-taking apps,
@evernote
@trello
iPhone, Apple Watch
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1 - I see teams using the low tech visual supports very well. it's the mid to higher tech options that aren't used often
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@ltoddrose
Great! I can send you a GDoc to brainstorm some chat ?s if you are interested
#Atchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@KarenJan
No, last week. Did an AT precon with
@mpress77
& presentation with
#ATIA
about the AOTA ATIA partnership
#ATchat
#AOTA16
wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Sorry I am late, Elisa from Gainesville, FL -
#life
....
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@rziolkowski
Thanks for sharing. Teams need to presume competence and encourage writing development.
#ATchat
https://t.co/49GOQScK8k
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
#atchat
A1:We are seeing great writing success with First Author Plus evidence of outcomes
https://t.co/OqFi3xGtl3
Plan, Write Share!
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@KarenJan
What scares me is when the devices get programmed to become the academic programs. Way to kill interest in communication!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@wernedat
Great you made it!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Who is doing that programming? Are you seeing it often?
#ATchat
https://t.co/uI2kfxcjKY
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@KarenJan
What scares me is when the devices get programmed to become the academic programs. Way to kill interest in communication!
#atchat
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
#atchat
A1: had a great experience. Lots of behaviors, prompted T to have student write answer. Bam! Ss student wrote Orange. no one knew
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q2:
#atchat
- How are your teams addressing the unique technology needs of students with autism? What does implementation look like?
RhianonElan
Apr 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Love it! I hope to attend.
#atchat
https://t.co/YXel3NyG4C
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Starting in April
#ATchat
book club! First book: The End of Average by
@ltoddrose
4/27 chat will be Book Club discussion
ksuding
Apr 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Kelli from Indiana...trying to catch up so far!
#atchat
deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
AWESOME idea.
#atchat
https://t.co/pzFvdkhcFG
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Starting in April
#ATchat
book club! First book: The End of Average by
@ltoddrose
4/27 chat will be Book Club discussion
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Ts, I think. I have heard Ts describing implementation to me, and gave gotten Ss enter with devices so programmed.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@rziolkowski
Is that the link you shared? I'll go back after the chat to review everything.
#ATchat
wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2:
#ATChat
including Ss in selection, integrating into routines already established super impt for success we are seeing
deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Q2
#atchat
team ensures opportunities across settings and staff
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mmatp
@bwwojci
@ltoddrose
Count me in!
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@RhianonElan
@deTechtive1
So glad people are excited! Looking forward to starting a new
#ATchat
tradition
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 - as always, use the SETT Framework to guide decisions. Then collaboration and hopefully develop an AT implementation plan.
#ATchat
darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: through SETT framework and teachers using the tech side by side w/ Ss. You talk with AAC? So do I!
#atchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1 visuals, manipulatives, social stories, Time Timers, photos, Google calendar, Boardmaker, Pixwriter, Read&Write, LAMP WFL
#ATchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2/Q2 Are the technology needs of S w Autism unique? Propose that functional needs that drive tech supports are similar to others
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VickiBostonSLP
Apr 13 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@KarenJan
I've seen this, too- lots of "sight words" & calendar time phrases but not much in the way of communication
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@darlaashton
Yes, Aided language Stimulation! Great video from
@attipscast
https://t.co/zZ6SfHsimC
#ATchat
https://t.co/BZ8GwDdusL
darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: through SETT framework and teachers using the tech side by side w/ Ss. You talk with AAC? So do I!
#atchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2. Choices/flexibility are key. Sensory self-ref means Ss are not always available to use the same system as last hour/yesterday
#atchat
ksuding
Apr 13 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2: Implementation looks like new behaviors at first- then with impeccable patience, comes progress.
#atchat
rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
#atchat
A2: Not trying to be promotional-but we get lots of successes. First Author Curriculum is teaching teachers how to get Ss writing.
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
@KarenJan
or an "Edmark folder" in what is otherwise a robust language system.
#atchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Agree. Start with environment & modifications to address sensory & communication needs. Use whatcha got technology first
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Great point. not seeing the use of AT w S on the Spectrum in Out of district placements.unique.
#ATchat
https://t.co/EH5dwIVCDG
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2/Q2 Are the technology needs of S w Autism unique? Propose that functional needs that drive tech supports are similar to others
#atchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
@KarenJan
or Ss w/ robust systems that only know how to answer calendar q b/c it's the only time it's been taught.
#atchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@JudithSchoonov1
Think we need to underscore AT is based in human functions and not tied to specific disabilities
#important
#atchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bwwojci
Not following this comment... I work in an OOD placement...
#atchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@KarenJan
What does that look like? Why is AT not being used?
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@JudithSchoonov1
Agree. But this is a population that is denied access to AT in out-of-district schools for autistic Ss
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@JudithSchoonov1
I wish that was the case but it's pretty shocking.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q3:
#atchat
- What research articles and/or resources have guided your work with students on the spectrum? Please add the links here.
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@bwwojci
For some Ss (like AAC users) They have some unique needs, for someone like me, no probably not. It's a big spectrum!
#atchat
PattyATP
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2:allowing flexibility seat options. Ss who need to move r provided literacy tools on vert or floor
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@KarenJan
yes, and then lots of complaints that the device isn't working for communication! What was taught?
#atchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@JudithSchoonov1
I have seen where some districts/schools abdicate their responsibility for providing AT in OOD placements
#atchat
ksuding
Apr 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2: I just want to mention SETT framework again to "stick" for essential mind set purposes
#atchat
@darlaashton
@KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3 The OCALI Autism Internet Modules are an outstanding resource. Highly recommend this.
#ATchat
#Spedchat
https://t.co/QIlMpBzJpe
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3 Here's a link I use to support video modeling.
https://t.co/7PZwoniY6r
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Adults assigned 1:1 to a S and carrying a clipboard for data collection.
#ATchat
No AT
https://t.co/CKeyBmDOE6
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@KarenJan
What does that look like? Why is AT not being used?
#atchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Absolutely. Contrary to what some believe, I don't think there is "an app for autism" or whatever. Need to feature match
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 - Can't recommend EmmasHopeBook Blog enough. This post changed my thinking. Please read & follow her work
https://t.co/BUF99DkHZY
#ATchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
@KarenJan
always baffled by the folks who complain the S "just stims on it" but never teach using it any other way.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:26 PM EDT
So true! Just had this discussion today. As long as features match who cares that it isn't "made for autism"
#Atchat
https://t.co/kBFN8DQ0bL
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Absolutely. Contrary to what some believe, I don't think there is "an app for autism" or whatever. Need to feature match
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Yes - and they only offer the tech for reward and reinforcement!
#ATchat
https://t.co/x3QvRr7Vef
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
@KarenJan
always baffled by the folks who complain the S "just stims on it" but never teach using it any other way.
#atchat
ksuding
Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#atchat
That statement just made my day.
@JudithSchoonov1
@bwwojci
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 Like how AT is already built into some of the evidence base for Ss with Autism
https://t.co/7BKO9xw0UG
#atchat
MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@KarenJan
@JudithSchoonov1
I think it depends. I work in an OOD and most districts provide individual AT we provide UDL.
#ATchat
deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#atchat
q3
@wrenasmir
@depipads
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@MaegeK
Agreed...it depends. It depends on the OOD placement, how the state defines the LEA's responsibilities, etc.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Get your tix today. Inclusive Tech Institute. Early Bird: $99; ends 4/30. 6/25/16 @
#iste16
https://t.co/gZZ8kNk8NT
#ATchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bwwojci
know that classroom. :) "can't use tech" b/c S can't transition off/will trigger behavior/other S will be jealous
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@bwwojci
Great link, thanks for sharing.
#ATchat
https://t.co/1kBIZmiSYn
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 Like how AT is already built into some of the evidence base for Ss with Autism
https://t.co/7BKO9xw0UG
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Q4:
#atchat
- How does AT fit with ABA or Discrete Trial principles?How does your district resolve the philosophical differences?
darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
My favorite EBP apps:
https://t.co/IyxfYpNtIm
#atchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Much money and focus on Autism research in short amount of time...good evidence base...even with some AT
#atchat
wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A4:
#ATChat
- ABA/AT is a huge issue in our district...
https://t.co/mWJt9DuVnn
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3 Ten Things Every Child with Autism Wishes You Knew by Ellen Notbohm
#ATchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4. Personally, I'm not a fan of ABA or DTT. I'm going to leave that one there. I only have 140 characters.
#atchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@mmatp
Are there philosophical differences? ABA/DTT are methods of teaching/learning. They can be used to teach and use AT also
#atchat
cindyccm
Apr 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
anyone know an app for vocab developmt with VIDEO?
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Apr 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@KarenJan
@bwwojci
I was in a classroom once that "didn't allow screen time in kindergarten" & it was a big deal.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3 - Here's a link to research about teaching Ss with autism to read for meaning.
https://t.co/epJaEa30mY
#ATchat
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Curious why not in favor of ABA/DTT?
#atchat
darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4: ABA in a center and in a school can look very different. And can blend well. Depends on need of Ss.
#atchat
MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4: ABA fits right in. Behaviors often decrease once AT is provided. DTI driven ABA fits better with low tech, but it can work.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q5:
#atchat
- How well are we meeting the needs of students on the spectrum? What are your successes and frustrations?
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@bwwojci
B/c most people who graduate from it develop PTSD, b/c it does not presume competence, b/c it teaches kids to memorize ....
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Read some of the blog posts by autistic adults. They talk about PTSD as a result of the techniques
#ATchat
https://t.co/Yb2IeHFgpo
bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Curious why not in favor of ABA/DTT?
#atchat
darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: i think we have to be careful though...ABA isn't JUST DTT. and doesn't always include DTT.
#atchat
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@bwwojci
A correct answer instead of learning to problem-solve. B/c research says it can actually inhibit generalization
#atchat
JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@mmatp
A4 can't say how r district resolve conflicts, but increased focus on core vocab isn't always agreed with. Language vs label
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spaul6414
Apr 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@mmatp
@RhianonElan
@deTechtive1
Sounds like fun! I might join you on this.
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@bwwojci
B/c it tends to promote prompt dependency.... I told you I needed more characters. More than enough reasons.
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bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@darlaashton
Agree. DTT is a specific application...ABA is broader...ABA/DTT have also been 'curriculumized' which is weird
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darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: we need better dialogue btwn centers and schools. Better collaboration. Student centered plans.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
DTT/ABA seems more about compliance, than independence. Promotes prompt dependency. AT promote independence.
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MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
I truly believe my brother with Autism would not be where he is today without ABA. There's just a lot of bad ABA out there.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Blog Post: ABA & Autism. A Thorny Problem of Control and Consent.
https://t.co/Jc7HVaXe11
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bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@gallianstone
But only if other techniques are not used to fade prompts and generalize behaviors/learning
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@gallianstone
We are on the same wavelength.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Don't forget. We are looking for people to moderate
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Have a topic idea? Fill out the form:
https://t.co/wUQEjE6Lej
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I know we are
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darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
not if done right.goal is to reduce and fade. which is why choosing right prompt hierarchy important!
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https://t.co/kE7OHDFKsy
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@bwwojci
B/c it tends to promote prompt dependency.... I told you I needed more characters. More than enough reasons.
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wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A5: Trying to partner in convo with parents about what ed goals are and how we can work together. Ss are getting afterschool ABA
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bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@mmatp
Thanks for the link...will follow up on this....
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@bwwojci
I've seen adults who have had ABA their whole lives go right up the prompt hierarchy (to staff) to get what they want
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JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@mmatp
This is a thought provoking blog & well worth the read.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@JudithSchoonov1
agreed. some very interesting pieces in this post
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@mmatp
There are several blog written by autistic adults who share their perspectives. Eye-opening.
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@bwwojci
seen any of the studies that show that autistic Ss have more trouble generalizing if they master a specific stimulus first?
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bwwojci
Apr 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Sure...but I would contend the theory of ABA/DTT is sound...however, like any teaching it can be done well or poorly
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Q6: Let’s brainstorm topic ideas for upcoming
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What do you want to talk about? Suggesting doesn’t mean you have to lead the chat!
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@JudithSchoonov1
@gallianstone
@mmatp
@bwwojci
Check out this post.
https://t.co/BUF99DkHZY
and check out her recent posts.
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wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A6: top 5 tools that help you do your AT Specialist job better
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@bwwojci
You won't convince me (but I will agree to disagree.) I do suggest you look at Lovas's protocol/beliefs - They're scary!
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deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A6
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LOVE book study. Also maybe post school AT for living and employment? Not my wheelhouse but need more learning.
wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
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always need more tools.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q7 Any final thoughts or questions about our topic tonight? Here's a chance to ask our esteemed group!
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@gallianstone
Check out this response to ABA
https://t.co/Sbb6gbAzik
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@bwwojci
@gallianstone
Have to admit, social media has expanded my thinking about autism.
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VickiBostonSLP
Apr 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A6: tips and tricks for good professional development- beyond Twitter chats, of course
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q6 follow up: any suggestions for other
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book club books?
darlaashton
Apr 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A6: always love a chat on AAC. And would love something more specific on autism, maybe just focusing on video modeling?
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deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A7
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TY for doing this and well done.
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A6. Thinking about multiple tech level strategies - how can we access at multiple levels, and go between them.
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deTechtive1
Apr 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@mmatp
#atchat
maybe a online vote?
KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Video modeling has a great deal of research behind it. How are people using that strategy?
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bcdtech
Apr 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
I still have ? re reading/writing issues w/Ss with autism- a visual learner, only sight words- no decoding and hates to write.
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krista_bolen
Apr 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Dropping in at the tail end of
#atchat
. Look forward to reading the articles about
#autism
and
#ABA
. Sorry I missed tonight
#targetrun
gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@bcdtech
See that a lot. Wish I had some great insights for you. It's hard.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@deTechtive1
sure I am all for that. once I get a few suggestions I will put up a poll
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bcdtech
Apr 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Shucks- thought for sure there was a magic pill for it.
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MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bwwojci
@gallianstone
I think we have to focus on using AT to increase our SS skills no matter how they are taught.
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wernedat
Apr 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@bcdtech
something like Inspiration/Kidspiration for brainstorming part of writing since it is visual?
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gallianstone
Apr 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@MaegeK
@KarenJan
@bwwojci
that we can all agree on!
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JudithSchoonov1
Apr 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@mmatp
Out of My Mind-the book, not my state of mind this lovely Wednesday evening
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cindyccm
Apr 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@mmatp
I loved Carly's Voice
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s
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tomorrow morning
bcdtech
Apr 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@wernedat
I've tried various graphic organizers- hi/lo tech. Tried voice typing. 3rd gr who has learned to hate written expr.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Make sure to follow everyone from today’s
#atchat
Let’s continue to learn and share!
bcdtech
Apr 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Got to say- using
https://t.co/oqgy8uhVlU
for chats helps me focus- not looking at 20 other columns and great resource collection.
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MaegeK
Apr 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@bcdtech
Could you try something that would scaffold the expression? Thinking Clicker type supports?
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bcdtech
Apr 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@MaegeK
Ordered for next year
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Apr 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@MaegeK
@bcdtech
Yes, I've used Clicker Connect for this type of situation. Great scaffolded support.
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rziolkowski
Apr 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#atchat
Jumped back on at the end. Looks like a lot of great reading to do tonight. Thanks everyone!