#ATchat Archive

#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday May 10, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
  • participatechat May 10 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #ATchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/LbdD5CgZib
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Please introduce yourself and tell us which math subject was your favorite. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hey Now #ATchat Looking forward to learning all about math supports tonight! AT Specialist from NJ & co-mod w/ @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Great to moderate this discussion with you tonight @mmatp #ATchat
  • wernedat May 10 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    So very excited to here tonight...and on time :) #ATChat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @jmacattak
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hello from western MA. Curious to hear more about equatio..read about it online, but have not tried it.#ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi, I am John McGowan and I fell in love with Graph Theory...super fun problems with low entry points, Algebra 2 is close 2nd. #ATChat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    so happy to be here w/ you and the group! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Welcome - looking forward to the math discussion tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @jmacattak
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    We will use the Q1, A1 format today, after a few questions directed to John. Don’t forget to include #atchat hashtag
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    John O'Sullivan Assistive Technology Specialist/Librarian - Chelmsford. Math apps are my favorite area of math #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Great you can join us! Here's the first question for you. John, what led you to develop g(Math) originally? #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    #atchat I develop g(Math) so my students could create their math digitally. I had a student who did not talk but loved to type responses.
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Uh Oh... math phobe here. I struggle with pemdas. A baker- give me the recipe and I will blindly follow it. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    #atchat it was a revelation that I needed to provide a tool so students could create math in whatever manner they prefer. The heart of UDL!
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    g(Math) was a revelation for Ss. Opportunities to participate independently #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Great response - so what got you interested in UDL as a math teacher? #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:07 PM EDT
      #atchat it was a revelation that I needed to provide a tool so students could create math in whatever manner they prefer. The heart of UDL!
  • wernedat May 10 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Elisa, OT/AT Specialist from Florida, loved Algebra and Calculus, Geometry and proofs, so/so... #ATChat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    #atchat part of the reason Ss don't like math is the restriction on how they need to create it. UDL allows them to choose and empowers them
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Have you had a chance to explore Equati0? Feel free to ask John any questions you would like. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Listen: The latest research on teaching math to students with disabilities from @TASHtweet Amplified podcast https://t.co/lwZMcNAqJG #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Love your response - I don't run into many math teachers who even know about UDL. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    How do you share your perspective with other math teachers? They have role in reaching all learners. #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:10 PM EDT
      Also my Ss will be much more engaged with choice and will communicate more and be more creative in their thought if they are comfortable
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    This is a great question. I see math teachers who check out when we discuss UDL / AT. Missed opportunities #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    #ATChat I try to reach the heart of what we try to as math teachers...allow SS to explain what they think. UDL will give us better responses
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    How can we connect w/ math teachers and get them to think UDL? #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    #ATChat also a lot of teachers just haven't been exposed to UDL and agree with it as 'just good teaching'... strategies to reach all SS!
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Have you written any articles or posts I could share with other math teachers? Your thoughts are rare in the HS math arena. #ATchat
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:13 PM EDT
      #ATChat I try to reach the heart of what we try to as math teachers...allow SS to explain what they think. UDL will give us better responses
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Did you know #ATchat has a @voxer group too? Check out https://t.co/4NWoxLzrWg to sign up
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    #ATChat math teachers want to have their students communicate more, they just can't phrase it outside of critical thinking...UDL is that!
    In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Leslie from LI, NY jumping in late. Just walked in from my son's STEAM night at his school! So fun! #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Don't miss @InclusiveLN online mini conf on 5/18. Check out details: https://t.co/RbY4rnDc1D #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    that does sound like fun! Glad you made it tonight #ATchat
    In reply to @lrdichiara
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    #ATChat we are in the process of creating more & I truly think that teachers want to use UDL & just don't realize it...yet. My goal for 2017
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    What do you mean by that? Can you please explain? #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:20 PM EDT
      #ATChat we are in the process of creating more & I truly think that teachers want to use UDL & just don't realize it...yet. My goal for 2017
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    #ATChat I also want to continue to talk about multiple modes of communicating math like this one with prediction: https://t.co/voVwIVrfEB
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    I want to clone you. When I offer UDL or AT professional development, many MS/HS teachers feel it's not something for them #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    #ATChat sure! So math teachers always say 'show me your work' but really mean 'show it exactly like I've shown you'...UDL lets Ss explain
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    What do you do when Ss say, "I get it at school, I don't get it when I'm home?"how do you reach all learners?(that was my daughter). #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    We need to develop strats & show examples to reach these reluctant MS/HS teachers & demonstrate that #UDL is for everyone #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @jmacattak
  • wernedat May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Can student trials be done in individual 30 day trials for GoogleEdu districts if all students have access to add the extension? #ATChat
    In reply to @jmacattak, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    And many students hate showing their work, especially when the answer is obvious to them. #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
    • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:25 PM EDT
      What do you do when Ss say, "I get it at school, I don't get it when I'm home?"how do you reach all learners?(that was my daughter). #ATchat
      In reply to @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    #ATChat this is the beauty of accessibility! If the math is accessible then SS can have it read aloud or use AT tools to augment class notes
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    And many students hate showing their work, especially when the answer is obvious to them. #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:24 PM EDT
      #ATChat sure! So math teachers always say 'show me your work' but really mean 'show it exactly like I've shown you'...UDL lets Ss explain
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Want to catch up on a previous #ATchat Check out https://t.co/UHrLF6OH4R for links to every Storify from 2016/17. Enjoy!
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    I have had success w/ Livescribe Pen. That way, they have finished math problems + can go back to listen to how they got answer #ATchat
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:27 PM EDT
      #ATChat this is the beauty of accessibility! If the math is accessible then SS can have it read aloud or use AT tools to augment class notes
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Absolutely! I have been showing your tool to teachers and students. They all love it! #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak
  • wernedat May 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    meaning-can they have all free features & then go to full trial or only the other way around? #ATChat - thinking abt UDL deploymt? #ATChat
    In reply to @jmacattak, @KarenJan
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    #ATChat yes, especially if a teacher devalues their response if it is not in the manner they expect, like a verbal response.
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Q1: What do you find are the biggest obstacles to success and Independence with math subjects? #Atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Amazing conversation w/ @jmacattak in #ATchat tonight. Refreshing to hear a gen ed math teacher talking about accessibility and UDL! #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    There can be obstacles to understanding math content and problems demonstrating understanding. They require different solutions #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    For the 30 minutes, we are going back to the Q1/A1 format for all. We are so grateful to @jmacattak for sharing his wisdom with us #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Repeating Q1: What do you find are the biggest obstacles to success and Independence with math subjects? #Atchat
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    #ATChat YES! UDL is what math teachers want and having more rich SS response will show them the light :) my goal is to enlighten them ;)
    In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Thx @jmacattak for sharing your insights w/ #ATchat tonight. We really appreciate it!
    In reply to @KarenJan, @jmacattak, @jmacattak
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    #ATChat thank you so much for including me!! It was awesome :)
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    This was a very rich discussion tonight. Thank you so much for adding a great deal to the math UDL discussion. you are a disrupter! #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A1: Ss struggling w/ the process. Sometimes concepts are too abstract. Need reinforcement #ATchat
  • wernedat May 10 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A1: the "language" of math for a Ss already struggle with language; and the fine motor work showing parts #ATChat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Keep the convo going. Join our #ATchat Facebook group. https://t.co/Ab65dJGMNY
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Great point about the "language" of math. Difficult for some Ss #Atchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A1 Students struggling with math comprehension, fine motor control and visual spatial issues. There are many factors that interfere. #ATchat
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A1: Biggest obstacle working w/ primary Ss was always the retention of content as the topics are cyclical&if Ss had a weak # sense. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • VickiBostonSLP May 10 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    When I was a MS SLP, my students had a hard time w/all the language in word problems- we spent a lot of time looking at key words #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Here's a website that helps. https://t.co/jAgLdcBDC3 #ATchat
    • wernedat May 10 @ 8:33 PM EDT
      A1: the "language" of math for a Ss already struggle with language; and the fine motor work showing parts #ATChat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 (con't): understand concepts in isolation, but when put into complex word problem for Ss w/ lang disabilities they are then lost #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q2: What tools are you using to bypass the input math challenges, difficulties with understanding Math concepts? #ATchat
  • VickiBostonSLP May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    & I spent a lot of time talking to their teachers about complex sentences & clauses that were more problematic than math operations #ATChat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    The Thinking Blocks website really helps with understanding word problems, free apps and online. #ATchat https://t.co/ZkjX1ZaE3A
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
    • VickiBostonSLP May 10 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      When I was a MS SLP, my students had a hard time w/all the language in word problems- we spent a lot of time looking at key words #ATchat
  • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    #ATChat thanks so much for having me! I really want to push UDL further into the forefront for math!
    In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A2: Using @khanacademy to reinforce concepts #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    We're here to help. Let us know how we can support your efforts. As we always say, "UDL is the answer!" #ATchat
    In reply to @jmacattak, @mmatp
    • jmacattak May 10 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      #ATChat thanks so much for having me! I really want to push UDL further into the forefront for math!
      In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A2 The Math Path of the UDL Tech Toolkit Wiki has several solutions. https://t.co/Z0U8bkRh9B #ATchat
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A2: @ClaroScanPen-Ss use TTS 2 listen 2 word problems (app needs 2improve reading numbers) Allows Ss to truly show what they know! #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Should be Math Page #ATchat
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I mappped the MAP scores to Khan and the kids have more directed practice https://t.co/zFD5ioMdhN #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @khanacademy
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A2: Algebra Touch https://t.co/gTU7zVgzGZ #atchat
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A2 ModMath Pro https://t.co/SP7iiaHZU9 #atchat
  • madison_oriente May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Just jumping on board! I am a pre-service student studying secondary LA English education at the University of Oklahoma. #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    There is now a free Android version of ScanPen. https://t.co/td4rUfvUqy #ATchat
    • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:39 PM EDT
      A2: @ClaroScanPen-Ss use TTS 2 listen 2 word problems (app needs 2improve reading numbers) Allows Ss to truly show what they know! #ATchat
  • VickiBostonSLP May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A2: I found screen casting apps could be useful. Teachers record simple explanation w/video that students could rewatch as needed #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Hi Madison. Glad to have you with us tonight #ATchat
    In reply to @madison_oriente
  • SLP_NMS May 10 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    #Atchat A1 Executive Fx & pitfalls of multistep word problems. A common challenge for some Ss.
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2: Learned about this one today while on the phone w/ @KarenJan Numboard Premium. Algebra keyboard app https://t.co/A6HNMUGcNU #Atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 Seems like such a simple solution - can video your lessons, record with screen casting tools, use SmartPen or document camera. #ATchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
    • VickiBostonSLP May 10 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      A2: I found screen casting apps could be useful. Teachers record simple explanation w/video that students could rewatch as needed #ATchat
  • burnickel May 10 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A1- visual perceptual and fine motor difficulties seem to be a big challenge #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q3:What tools are you using to bypass the output challenges which interfere with answering math problems? #ATchat
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I am a librarian. I purchased videos and books to explain the math. I like the idea of being creative with math. #atchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I was reading that the other day! So awesome! They said at ATIA they were doing some necessary updates...hoping they come soon too! #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A3 - Numboard (@mmatp just mentioned it), Panther Math App, Mod Math Pro, Equati0, and screencasting apps. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A3: MyScript Mathpad https://t.co/aeo4dkG935 #ATchat
  • SLP_NMS May 10 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    #Atchat Q3 low tech =graph paper for fine motor, visual spatial or org challenges.
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Don't forget. We are looking for people to moderate #ATchat Have a topic idea? Fill out the form: https://t.co/wUQEjE6Lej
  • burnickel May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A3 I like panther math paper, but wish there was a way to import wkshts to app... any other suggestions? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Do you turn off the automatic calculation when you have students use it? #ATchat
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Make sure you tell everyone about your chat on Thursday. #atchat
    In reply to @SLP_NMS
  • SLP_NMS May 10 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    #Atchat Q3 Also @ModMath
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    yes, most times - you? #Atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    I like myscript, but sometimes it goes wacky #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Does anyone get asked about math remediation tools? Sometimes we walk a fine line and are expected to offer recommendations. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Yes, but it's so tempting and fun to see the script turn into the problem and solution automatically! #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Just had convo about remedial tools last week. Worked together w/ curriculum person to identify tools. Good opp for partnership #Atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • VickiBostonSLP May 10 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A3: anyone used @CueThink? I discovered it shortly before I left Boston & haven't had an opportunity to look more but liked the UDL #ATchat
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I generally recommend physical manipulatives and Math Playground #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • wernedat May 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A2/A3: Also LOVE https://t.co/ys8ftsEElN which has videos of explaining in dif ways by diff people #ATchat
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Looks $$$ #atchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @CueThink
  • SLP_NMS May 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    I defer 2 learning specialists & certified math teachers. We R lucky 2 have cert math teachers 4 our sm group math 4 LBC programs #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: @NotabilityApp-built-in graph paper&zoom features (declutter pgs, zoom in& org equat.), Math Paper Panther. Find ModMath frust #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    DIY AT math solution from my #edsp640 class. Number grid w moveable window that helps Ss quickly find 10 more or 10 less #atchat
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    My students became frustrated by it a little so we moved over to Panther and have had more success/less frustration. #ATchat
    In reply to @SLP_NMS, @ModMath
  • CueThink May 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    We have a number of different pricing models. Ts say it fosters mathematical practices. Do check it out. #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @VickiBostonSLP
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3: Interactive Sites for Education (math) https://t.co/aSysnVwRki #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    STAGES Math is an awesome accessible app for Number Sense. Just updated and released. https://t.co/SGdUZB71iE #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s #ATchat tomorrow morning
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Yes..has a lot of nice features once you get used to using it. Panther Math paper by Panther Technology https://t.co/0tRplreJ3C #ATchat
    In reply to @SLP_NMS, @NotabilityApp
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    One more DIY AT math solution. Number line w/ beads sliding on pipe cleaner to mark numbers #atchat
  • bcdtech May 10 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I know we ordered it, but haven't been working for the last month or so... so don't know if they are using it yet. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator May 10 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Make sure to follow everyone from today’s #atchat Let’s continue to learn and share!
  • The_app_guide May 10 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: YourTeacher is a good app for math tutoring https://t.co/dNDqmd4MAS #atchat
  • lrdichiara May 10 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    There was a lot of chatter about this at ATIA. I would love to get my hands on it at some point! #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator May 10 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thank you all for the excellent conversation tonight. Math is a topic we haven't covered before. Great ideas & huge TY to @jmacattak #ATchat