#edchatie Archive
Monday October 2, 2017
3:30 PM EDT
Webwise_Ireland
Oct 2 @ 3:30 PM EDT
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fboss
Oct 2 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight’s
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discussion. As usual, before we start, please introduce yourself and use the hashtag in all your tweets
istone_irene
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
My first time to participate in online discussion. I'm a maths and coding teacher
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NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Hello, everyone. I am Nerisa, please let me jump in as soon as you're ready. Do you have anything about going global?
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NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Hello, I am Nerisa, please let me join you all.
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catherinem23
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Catherine from Killarney teaching SET
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rieaust
Oct 2 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Hi there . Anne-Marie Clarke joining the discussion. Art teacher in Secondary education and Research supervisor in 3rd level
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gavinobriain
Oct 2 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Gavin, múinteoir Gaeilge from dublin
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istone_irene
Oct 2 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Responsive teaching;students thinking is at core of lesson.Effective AFL cant happen without knowing what students think?
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Conor, Secondary
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Now we are just left to puzzle at subject inequality - Honours Irish VS pass maths.
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patjburke
Oct 2 @ 2:50 PM EDT
This section of the curriculum from 1934 is definitely of its time...different content in 6th class maths for male/female teachers
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:40 PM EDT
Rule 1: Don't go on twitter!
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Webwise_Ireland
Oct 2 @ 3:30 PM EDT
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EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 3:43 PM EDT
Kate, secondary teacher in Cork
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:43 PM EDT
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So 'Responsive Teaching' is our flavour of the month?
FoleyKev
Oct 2 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Evening all.Kevin here a Teaching Principal with Irelands first and only school STEAM Room
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:45 PM EDT
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John Middle and High School, Virginia
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Is there anyone who had tried digital compass at common sense media? I wonder if they have a global app on it.
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:48 PM EDT
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are we waiting for somebody to start?
ciaramcguane
Oct 2 @ 3:48 PM EDT
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Ciara McGuane, education consultant with Rathú Ireland here 😊
miriambergin
Oct 2 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Miriam PP teacher in Thurles.
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:49 PM EDT
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I think there should be an expectation that if your topic is picked that you should be there to lead the discussion.
#goodmanners
conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Its a hard topic to engage with this week I feel.
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:48 PM EDT
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are we waiting for somebody to start?
johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:51 PM EDT
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someone felt engaged enough to propose it and enough more to vote for it.
#twiddlingfingers
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 3:52 PM EDT
I don't think assessment for learning is a hard topic. As an art teacher I have been doing it for my whole teaching career
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rieaust
Oct 2 @ 3:53 PM EDT
I just never called it assessment for learning
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miriambergin
Oct 2 @ 3:53 PM EDT
ok so we need to state learning intentions,use kahoot, traffic lights, to check learning is taking place, any other suggestions
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:55 PM EDT
Don't we mostly just call this formative assessment these days.
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rieaust
Oct 2 @ 3:52 PM EDT
I don't think assessment for learning is a hard topic. As an art teacher I have been doing it for my whole teaching career
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:55 PM EDT
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So what is Responsive Teaching ?
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 3:55 PM EDT
It is a reflection process. Yes apps can play a part but students need to reflect. A process of challenging them. What can you do
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PoAtOe_MaN360
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
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#repealthe8th
#ChampionsCup
#Barcelona
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trendinaliaIE
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
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gavinobriain
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
But by responding to this feedback is that responsive teaching?
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In reply to @conpower
conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
https://t.co/eGluJtKU54
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 3:51 PM EDT
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someone felt engaged enough to propose it and enough more to vote for it.
#twiddlingfingers
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Thanks for the literacy in Ireland
@saorog
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I need more, anyone has some global resource?
conpower
Oct 2 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Only if you repsond to the response of the student responding to feedback.
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gavinobriain
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
But by responding to this feedback is that responsive teaching?
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In reply to @conpower
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 3:58 PM EDT
I have advantage being able to hold up student work at a distance from them and ask 'what do you see? Does it work, what changes
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gavinobriain
Oct 2 @ 3:58 PM EDT
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In reply to @conpower
trendinaliaIE
Oct 2 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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miriambergin
Oct 2 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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We have online student eportfolios, students are given time to do reflections but they find it a difficult process
In reply to @rieaust
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:00 PM EDT
Sorry so late- Aine science teacher with Jct
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rieaust
Oct 2 @ 4:00 PM EDT
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In reply to @NPampilo, @saorog
istone_irene
Oct 2 @ 4:01 PM EDT
I sometimes have a problem with learning intentions. Can sometimes stifle student thinking? Can they not take ownership
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johnmayo
Oct 2 @ 4:01 PM EDT
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So really we are looking at reflection on assessment or have I become to Americanised with all their education buzz words? :-p
michealcannon
Oct 2 @ 4:02 PM EDT
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michealcannon
Oct 2 @ 4:01 PM EDT
I think when AfL guru, Dylan William, saw the monster he created eg ‘levels’ in UK, he wished he had called it “responsive teaching” instead
In reply to @johnmayo
msegriffin
Oct 2 @ 4:03 PM EDT
Eavan Primary Teacher Dublin
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_conorgalvin
Oct 2 @ 4:03 PM EDT
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Probably with an implicit element of actually working with the new understanding too?
In reply to @johnmayo
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Think purpose of AFL is often lost in talk of tools- should be more focussed on principles - what tools you use shouldn't matter
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miriambergin
Oct 2 @ 4:04 PM EDT
learning intentions are KEY via
@JCforTeachers
, and are checked via success criteria, all new buzz words with a purpose, I guess.
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In reply to @istone_irene, @JCforTeachers
istone_irene
Oct 2 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Responsive teaching is AFL - it's responding to students thinking but is all AFL responsive teaching?
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Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:05 PM EDT
Only if you feel they have to be shared at start which is not always appropriate
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In reply to @istone_irene
EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:05 PM EDT
Yep. AFL never intended to replace summative Assessment. Trying to make a hybrid of the two particularly problematic
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In reply to @michealcannon
_conorgalvin
Oct 2 @ 4:06 PM EDT
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As well as the rather challenging idea that it's at its best when the students are also involved deeply in their own assessment.
In reply to @johnmayo
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Right, app may not be sufficient in itself-evaluate, assess and let ss create projects and reflection- kahoot, linoit, slide video
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_conorgalvin
Oct 2 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Principles or process? Most of what I vome across in this area is process directed.
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In reply to @Woodsiem
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 4:08 PM EDT
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look at Australia's model.
In reply to @NPampilo, @saorog
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Not if you believe that assessment and learning are interlinked- no good finding at end that students got lost along the way
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In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon
EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Giving them at start of every problematic. Nuts to think they'll have much stored securely in long-term memory 40 minutes later
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In reply to @istone_irene
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 4:09 PM EDT
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we are getting students to learn from assessing their work along with the teacher
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_conorgalvin
Oct 2 @ 4:10 PM EDT
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Boat-rocking.... :)
In reply to @gavinobriain, @conpower
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:10 PM EDT
Principles - e.g.activating students as learning resources for each other
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In reply to @_conorgalvin
msegriffin
Oct 2 @ 4:11 PM EDT
trying to find the balance is key, teaching for learning but assessment is vital to be able to pitch lessons
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In reply to @Woodsiem, @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon
istone_irene
Oct 2 @ 4:11 PM EDT
Responsive teaching facilitated through lesson study, student solutions are used to extend learning.
#lessonstudy
#projectmaths_ie
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Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:12 PM EDT
And often runs the risk of box ticking compliance if not driven by an understanding of the principles
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In reply to @michealcannon, @EllenKMetcalf, @daisychristo
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 4:13 PM EDT
Looking 4 ways & strategies to empower my kids to do their learning and personal assessment 2: ss in charge of their learning.
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EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:13 PM EDT
Sharing LOs at start of class won't prevent that. Each class only one step towards learning. Better to share at start of unit
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In reply to @Woodsiem, @michealcannon
michealcannon
Oct 2 @ 4:13 PM EDT
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michealcannon
Oct 2 @ 4:10 PM EDT
@daisychristo
argues in series of blogposts that AfL was implemented badly and bound to fail in UK
https://t.co/7jMXbuUTp0
In reply to @Woodsiem, @EllenKMetcalf, @daisychristo
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 4:14 PM EDT
AfL is about getting the student onboard as to how they can improve their response. Challenging for spoon-fed student
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 4:15 PM EDT
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seems a whole school approach is needed. It's a hearts and minds type change.
In reply to @NPampilo
EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:16 PM EDT
And LOs used in class need to look very different to those in subject specifications. If the same they're either so simplistic
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In reply to @Woodsiem, @michealcannon, @daisychristo
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:16 PM EDT
Learning intentions for units of lessons are appropriate - no rules - teacher decides what works for them and their students
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In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon
EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:17 PM EDT
so as to be useless for professional planning, or too complex to be co@prehensible to kids
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In reply to @Woodsiem, @michealcannon, @daisychristo
_conorgalvin
Oct 2 @ 4:19 PM EDT
Here's a related infographic via
@msegriffin
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msegriffin
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
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In reply to @Alex_Corbitt, @finleyt
trendinaliaIE
Oct 2 @ 4:19 PM EDT
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NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Yes, I certainly believe in harmony and consistency in our practice.
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In reply to @msegriffin, @Woodsiem, @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon
EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:20 PM EDT
I think so. Thankfully less of Assessment OF v FOR Learning jargon
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In reply to @conpower
rieaust
Oct 2 @ 4:20 PM EDT
AfL is no big deal. It develops student critical-thinking skills. Instead of teacher giving feedback they ask student a question
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conpower
Oct 2 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Nicely done infograph.
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_conorgalvin
Oct 2 @ 4:19 PM EDT
Here's a related infographic via
@msegriffin
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msegriffin
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
#dld_ucd
In reply to @Alex_Corbitt, @finleyt
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:21 PM EDT
learning intentions for what is shared in classrooms but do not suggest they are simplistic though should be student friendly
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In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon, @daisychristo
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Can you give me the link please for Australia
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In reply to @rieaust, @saorog
EllenKMetcalf
Oct 2 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Remember being completely confused by "formative Assessment" during ITT. So little seemed "assessment", just teaching
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In reply to @conpower
miriambergin
Oct 2 @ 4:22 PM EDT
Just wondering where is
@fboss
tonight..
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michealcannon
Oct 2 @ 4:22 PM EDT
@daisychristo
argues that formative assessment should look nothing like summative assessment
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Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:23 PM EDT
The purpose of sharing learning intentions as a principle of AFL is to ensure that students know where their learning is focussed
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In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon, @daisychristo
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 4:23 PM EDT
That's right, not to put too much pressure and stress but something that ss enjoy doing and take ownership
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In reply to @_conorgalvin, @johnmayo
conpower
Oct 2 @ 4:24 PM EDT
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Hard work sometimes convincing students that failure in class tests etc can be a positive if used to inform study & revision. You see this in the around of students cheating in class exams or homework. Don't paper over the cracks!
Woodsiem
Oct 2 @ 4:24 PM EDT
Professional planning is different to using learning intentions as an AFL principle
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In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @michealcannon, @daisychristo
NPampilo
Oct 2 @ 4:25 PM EDT
I like the idea of e-portfolio but not possible for us now, kids no account yet too bad.
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In reply to @miriambergin, @rieaust
gavinobriain
Oct 2 @ 4:27 PM EDT
OneNote can be a good way of doing this with the possibility of the teacher to check in
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In reply to @miriambergin, @rieaust
miriambergin
Oct 2 @ 4:29 PM EDT
we use GAFE, find google user friendly, increasing degree of usage with time,1st drive, sites(eportfolio), googleclassroom
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In reply to @gavinobriain, @rieaust