#formativechat Archive

Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.

Monday August 6, 2018
7:30 PM EDT

  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    #formativechat starts NOW!
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Looking forward to a great chat tonight . #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Welcome, Tim! You are right on time! How's your summer going? #formativechat
    In reply to @timlriley
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Me too! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • saarbris Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Seth here, literacy interventionist from WA, grades 6-8. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Hey Tim, early is good :) #formativechat
    In reply to @timlriley
  • vendi55 Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Intro - Dean V from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada High School Math teacher and proud @goformative certified educator #formativechat
  • IdeaShopPD Aug 6 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Hi! Tracey from Ottawa Ontario šŸ‡ØšŸ‡¦ #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hey Seth! Welcome back! #formativechat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    THanks for joining Seth! #formativechat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • timlriley Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Itā€™s been fine #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hey Dean, thanks for being here! #formativechat
    In reply to @vendi55, @goformative
  • carasenger Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Cara Senger joining from Pittsburgh, PA. Middle school mathematics teacher #formativechat
    In reply to @goformative
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Welcome back, Dean! #formativechat
    In reply to @vendi55, @goformative
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Welcome Tracey! :) #formativechat
    In reply to @IdeaShopPD
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Looking forward to tonight's chat w @Rdene915 @davidwkwan I'm a K-6 instructional supervisor in Central NJ #formativechat
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Q1 is coming up in #formativechat !
  • Blended_Math Aug 6 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    #formativechat - Ray here from Rhode Island. 7th grade math teacher. I am a guest blogger for @edu_post and columnist for @eschoolnews. @TeachPlusRI Policy Fellow and @HighlanderInst Classroom Coach. Join me for #edChatRI every Sunday at 8pm EST.
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Hey Maureen, glad you could make it! #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611, @Rdene915, @davidwkwan
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Thanks Maureen! And I am looking forward to you being our guest moderator next week! #formativechat #4OCFPLN
    In reply to @mhayes611, @davidwkwan
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Welcome Ray! #formativechat
    In reply to @Blended_Math, @edu_post, @eschoolnews, @TeachPlusRI, @HighlanderInst
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Awesome, Pittsburgh is here tonight :) #formativechat
    In reply to @carasenger, @goformative
  • DrDeTuro Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Mike, Director of Curriculum and Instruction in NJ #formativechat
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Thanks, Rachelle! I'm excited about it! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @davidwkwan
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Q1! What are ways we can let students influence the direction of learning based on data? #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Enjoy reading @eschoolnews every day, great posts! Welcome Ray! #formativechat
    In reply to @Blended_Math, @edu_post, @eschoolnews, @TeachPlusRI, @HighlanderInst, @eschoolnews
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Hey, Mike! #formativechat
    In reply to @DrDeTuro
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us Mike! #formativechat
    In reply to @DrDeTuro
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Q1! What are ways we can let students influence the direction of learning based on data? #formativechat
  • sheldoneakins Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Sheldon here, in Idaho. Looking forward to the chat! #formativechat
  • loliveira55 Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Hello everyone. My name is Luis and Iā€™m an ELL HS teacher, tech coach, and director from RI. #formativechat
  • KRScienceLady Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Kathy is going to listen carefully and learn #formativechat
  • carasenger Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A1: data is only effective when the results are actually used to help make decisions. Teachers & students need to work together to decide what the next best step is. Donā€™t be afraid to ask students what they need! #teamwork #formativechat
  • smarterteacher Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Brian from SoCal I teach #LEARNING through the 6 C's in Science, Biology and Anatomy #formativechat
  • DavidJLockett Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Just making it to #formativechat.
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Welcome, Sheldon! #formativechat
    In reply to @sheldoneakins
  • PegGrafwallner Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Peg, Instructional Coach/Reading Specialist, excited to join into #formativechat
  • carasenger Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: data is only effective when the results are actually used to help make decisions. Teachers & students need to work together to decide what the next best step is. Donā€™t be afraid to ask students what they need! #teamwork #formativechat
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Hey Luis, great to hear from you! #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    I have excellent timing: Jason, 9-12/MEd student #formativechat
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: Sharing data with students and having data conversations which lead to individual goal setting; students should be working w teachers to identify their both their strengths & goals #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Nice! Always a good strategy! #formativechat
    In reply to @KRScienceLady
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Welcome Brian! Great graphic! #formativechat
    In reply to @smarterteacher
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    just in time for question 1 too :) #formativechat
    In reply to @DavidJLockett
  • Blended_Math Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    #formativechat Awesome! I have an @eschoolnews piece coming out at the end of the week. I just had a @edu_post piece land late last week. Check out all of my writing here: https://t.co/XshqOcviSX
    In reply to @Rdene915, @edu_post, @eschoolnews, @TeachPlusRI, @HighlanderInst, @eschoolnews, @edu_post
  • loliveira55 Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1 Data provides a look at to what is going well and what areas need more attention. Having conversations with Ss allows them to see where they are and where they need to go and gives them the opportunity to decide how to get there. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Hey Peg, cannot wait to listen to the podcast that @ChouinardJahant did with you :) #formativechat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @ChouinardJahant
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    That's a great reminder! Sometimes it can be easy to forget that Ss might already know what they need. #formativechat
    In reply to @carasenger
  • smarterteacher Aug 6 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A.1 Give students Voice and Choice Choice = Ownership = Value = Engagement = #LEARNING #formativechat
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Q1 is now up in #formativechat !
    • carasenger Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
      A1: data is only effective when the results are actually used to help make decisions. Teachers & students need to work together to decide what the next best step is. Donā€™t be afraid to ask students what they need! #teamwork #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    so important to involve Ss in discussion! #formativechat
    In reply to @carasenger
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    agreed! welcome :) #formativechat
    In reply to @AstroJasonG
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1 Hello #formativechat, Melissa from NY jumping in late. As much as possible I like them to get immediate feedback so that they can know what they need to work on next in learning, then I give them some choices of what next (reading, video, simulation)
  • DrDeTuro Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1: The first step in allowing the students to influence instruction is to be open and honest with them about the data. Let them know their pride points and areas to grow. #formativechat @SteeleThoughts
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Oh thank you :) I feel the same way about you Peg, love when I see one of your posts on @edutopia too :) #formativechat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @ChouinardJahant, @edutopia
  • smarterteacher Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Thank You The 6 C's still evolving over last 10 years. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • vendi55 Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1 - Provide a variety of response medium. Include students in evaluation process. Provide mastery learning opportunities. Have students do self assessments. #formativechat
  • DavidJLockett Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1. Constructive and realistic goal setting for all SS. #formativechat
  • amynicolebettis Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Hey guys!! Amy from Texas glad to be joining in - sorry I'm joining a little late! #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    love this collaborative effort and goal setting! #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Great strategy! Yes, it's so important to help Ss understand the data for themselves! #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    love it, may need to borrow it, with permission of course! #formativechat
    In reply to @smarterteacher
  • Blended_Math Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    #formativechat - A1 - I use @goformative to turn every day assignments into formative assessments that produce instantaneous data. The students influence the direction of their learning by showing mastery or showing that they need extra help and explanation.
  • DavidJLockett Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1. Data provides a reality roadmap for student performance. #formativechat
  • chrisduane819 Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Chris here from the Jersey Shore: Developing personalized learning plans with mid-year reviews help Ss understand what their goals are, what they have to do to get there and if they need to adjust course. #formativechat #FutureReadySchools
  • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    One of my secret weapons is some instruction on what data *means* (because this is important in science). I like to share assessment data (anonymously) with Ss, explain averages and trends and ask Ss if this means we should revisit something. Gives Ss a huge voice. #formativechat
  • carrierenfro Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1: Teaching students to analyze their data and choose their intervention path. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Great to have you Melissa! #formativechat and timely, authentic feedback is key!
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Oops, this was A1: #formativechat
  • dbuckedu Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A2: Depends on what data is referred to in the question. If Ss have no personal connection to the data being used, then it will have no effect on learning. Too much focus on data = a sterilization of the learning process and its potential force. #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1: Have a class discussion about patterns in responses and common misconceptions. Ask the class what we should focus on. #formativechat
  • IdeaShopPD Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1 I do quick geedback groups with kids who need support in same area. Show them the evidence. There is ā€˜safetyā€™ in numbers. They are relieved they arenā€™t the only ones. They select a partner from this group to team up with to tackle the next step #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    No worries Amy, good to have you! #formativechat
    In reply to @amynicolebettis
  • DavidJLockett Aug 6 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A1. Data provides a realistic roadmap for student performance. #formativechat
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Q2 is coming up in 2 minutes via @Rdene915 ! #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    RT Question 1 is up #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Remember to include the #formativechat in your responses so everyone can share ideas!
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    I have read that actionable feedback needs to be given within 48 hours to have any chance of making an impact. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • smarterteacher Aug 6 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A.1 Data does not always reside in my classroom. Teach the students in front of you. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A1 we need to make time to have conversations with our Ss, ask for their input and work together to choose next learning path and goals #formativechat
  • carrierenfro Aug 6 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A1: Communicating with students and including them in their learning experience and design. #formativechat
    • loliveira55 Aug 6 @ 7:35 PM EDT
      A1 Data provides a look at to what is going well and what areas need more attention. Having conversations with Ss allows them to see where they are and where they need to go and gives them the opportunity to decide how to get there. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Welcome Chris! great answer, definitely setting up those mid-year reviews and working w/Ss to plan and adjust, us modeling it helps as well #formativechat
    In reply to @chrisduane819
  • mrshowell24 Aug 6 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A1- ss can use data to reflect on their learning. Ss can track their data so they know how they are doing and to begin to take ownership of their learning! #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    Question 2 is coming up in 1 minute! #formativechat
  • smarterteacher Aug 6 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    Steal whatever you need. Teachers are the best thieves. Take it and make it your own. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • dbuckedu Aug 6 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    If data is feedback, then Ss must have agency over how it should be used to inform their learning. They must also know how to best apply the info to their future learning or mastery. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    I think that is one of the best ways to build student confidence, is sharing out anonymously the results, or if Ss post questions, that they are not alone, lots of "I wonders" out there #formativechat
    In reply to @IdeaShopPD
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    True! I could see choice being a great way to scaffold the decision making process of next learning steps. "Based on this data, which of the following learning topics are important to focus on next?" based on student interest, progress, natural conn. other factors #formativechat
    In reply to @smarterteacher
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Question 2 is here How can we partner with students in creating success criteria and determining how they'll be evaluated? #formativechat
  • KRScienceLady Aug 6 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Data can be gathered while building relationships with students. Then use that data to develop culturally responsive meaningful instruction. #formativechat
  • Kuglmee Aug 6 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Good evening! Mostly lurking from the car on a road trip north to Mareeba #formativechat
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Q2 is now up in #formativechat
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A1: In the nuclear field, we (students and instructors) would use plant human performance data and individual quantitative data to create improvement plans for the students that improve on weak areas. #formativechat
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    Welcome, Peg! It's great to have you back! #formativechat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • carasenger Aug 6 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A2: work together with the students to set the criteria/expectations for their work. If students are involved in the evaluation process, they have taken ownership of their own results #formativechat
  • DrDeTuro Aug 6 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    This is a great question! I am interested in hear what the group has to say especially at the lower grades. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A2: Students are great at designing rubrics and determining expectations for learning; give them voice & choice in determining these and guide them through the process #formativechat
  • amynicolebettis Aug 6 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A1: My kinder Ss look at their data (letters/sounds/sight words/report card) and help determine next steps (with support). By starting process of involving them in those decisions in K we pave the way for Ss to see relationship between data/goal setting/learning. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Hi Kathy, lurk away :) #formativechat
    In reply to @Kuglmee
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Hey Melissa! Great to see you! Thanks for doing that epic thing for our top, secret project! Excited for the 27th! haha #formativechat #mystery
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • Kuglmee Aug 6 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A2: include them in creating the rubric and offer choice in showing mastery (project, skit, talk, report, test) #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    and student ownership is so important, helps to connect with the WHY behind learning it #formativechat
    In reply to @carasenger
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    We think alike! After I post each answer I return to the chat to see your answer and we are in sync :-) #formativechat
    In reply to @carasenger
  • vendi55 Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2 - Use backwards design and make learning objectives clear from start. Create goals and plans on how objective will be met. Provide exemplars and create rubrics if possible. Be open minded / flexible. #formativechat
  • Blended_Math Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    #formativechat - I think there is an expectation from Ss that you set the success criteria. I think that there can be a gradual release here and you allow them to determine the success criteria, but you gently guide them to what you've already decided.
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    My pleasure. I can't wait to share it with my PLN when it is time! #formativechat
    In reply to @goformative
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    awesome starting the students in this grade, such an important skill to develop and to help them understand that value in feedback for growth #formativechat
    In reply to @amynicolebettis
  • IdeaShopPD Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: you need to have a clear idea before involving students. Success criteria canā€™t be anything goes. Providing high quality exemplars for kids to analyze will help them identify and pull out the look fors. Non-examples work well too. #formativechat
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    I love it! Teachers need to know that this starts in K...they CAN do it too! #formativechat
    In reply to @amynicolebettis
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Boom! #formativechat
    • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
      One of my secret weapons is some instruction on what data *means* (because this is important in science). I like to share assessment data (anonymously) with Ss, explain averages and trends and ask Ss if this means we should revisit something. Gives Ss a huge voice. #formativechat
  • chrisduane819 Aug 6 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: As Iā€™m writing, Iā€™m reflecting on how I can help my tutoring students set goals that are meaningful to them, help them track their progress, and make adjustments. I canā€™t wait for our meeting next week! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • mrshowell24 Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2- Creating a checklist for students to check their work before turning in their work. Also providing immediate feedback to ss as they are working. #formativechat
  • PegGrafwallner Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2 Give Ss chance to analyze Learning Intention & Success Criteria. Let them break it apart, reword/rewrite it in their own words, modify it for their ability (I am so excited to share that I am working on a chapter dedicated to this topic in my next book!!) #formativechat
  • DavidJLockett Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2. Listen and evaluate. Ownership is essential. #formativechat
  • dbuckedu Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2: Build an ā€œassessment conversationā€ = Ss assess themselves and their mastery by engaging in a discussion with the instructor over their chosen evidence. Ss should lead the assessment convo. #formativechat
  • amynicolebettis Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    I agree 100% - open and honest truly is always the best policy!! #formativechat
    In reply to @DrDeTuro, @SteeleThoughts
  • ffarry1 Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A1. I have pupils aged between 8 to 12. Mixed classes in a tiny primary school in Ireland. Padlet, https://t.co/s3T71xmTRh and https://t.co/JHBa3I0Hyg are great #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2 I know most people say rubric, but I think there is also value in having a conversation with Ss. What do you think you should do next? Can you teach this to someone else? How can I help you master the concept? #formativechat
  • KRScienceLady Aug 6 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    #formativechat
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Absolutely! Students need to be guided through the process and need support in order for this to be meaningful #formativechat
    In reply to @IdeaShopPD
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Boom! Teach Ss how to interpret data! #formativechat
    • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:38 PM EDT
      One of my secret weapons is some instruction on what data *means* (because this is important in science). I like to share assessment data (anonymously) with Ss, explain averages and trends and ask Ss if this means we should revisit something. Gives Ss a huge voice. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    true, or even having a rubric, not filled in, but for reference for the discussion, possibly? #formativechat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2: Expanding on what's already been said - I enjoy asking students what THEY want to lean about a topic. I don't really run into issues hitting standards that way. Ss are already invested, so the segue into creating their own rubrics is smooth(er). #formativechat
  • Kuglmee Aug 6 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    a1: I only shared their reading data last year in private chats w/Ss. Weā€™d talked about where they wanted to be and worked to read to that level. #formativechat
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2: When we would do scenario based evaluation, students validated our exam activities. Some things were quantitative, but there is a lot of teamwork involved in power plant ops and their input was used to establish what that teamwork should look like. #formativechat
  • holliewood24 Aug 6 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2) I started this year with choosing your own assessment. Because I've been teaching for a long time, I had a ton of assessments...traditional tests, essay prompts, creative assignments...I decided to let them choose, & it was awesome! #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Be sure to build PLN tonight in #formativechat and continue to learn and grow together
  • DrDeTuro Aug 6 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    #Assessment comes in so many different forms. Varying your approach gives you a broad perspective. #formativechat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • loliveira55 Aug 6 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2 By getting input from the students on what they believe the success criteria to be, then discussing the criteria and when possible showing examples of finished products to calibrate. Not always possible but awesome when available. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    I did that earlier this year as well, and then again towards the end. Ss really liked it, I did as well! #formativechat
    In reply to @holliewood24
  • IdeaShopPD Aug 6 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2 I always use criteria but the number of times I need to make a formal rubric are quite limited. I think we have a tendency to rubric things to death. Kids zone out after awhile. Many rubrics I see would have been better suited as a checklist. #formativechat
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Hi everyone, I'm Chris from NY. I spent 10+ yrs in adult education in the nuclear field and I'm looking forward to the chat tonight! #formativechat
  • amynicolebettis Aug 6 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    I love this answer - "voice and choice" is key for motivating Ss to lean into their learning! #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Definitely, guide, support and then have Ss drive their learning and we can help as needed #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611, @IdeaShopPD
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    very true. It also depends on the kids in front of you. I should have said AND, because it is never all one way or another. I love a good rubric as well. #formativechat
    In reply to @DrDeTuro
  • ffarry1 Aug 6 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    Absolutely Melissa. What students can teach others improves their knowledge and mastery of a topic/concept. Sometimes teachers are slow to empower them to do this. #formativechat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • holliewood24 Aug 6 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    My favorite part was that it encouraged them to take risks in their learning. I've never had that happen before! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    that is awesome, and then for them to see that it is good to take risks, and to keep pushing through, failures and all! #formativechat
    In reply to @holliewood24
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    I picked that up from someone, just can't remember who!?! I know, it puts the effort back on the Ss to be a part of the community as well. #formativechat
    In reply to @AstroJasonG
  • dbuckedu Aug 6 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    Grades tied to feedback destroy the feedbackā€™s effectiveness. The challenge is how to employ the power of formative assessment apart from the ā€œfinalityā€ of grades. Get rid of grades? Absolutely. #formativechat
  • carasenger Aug 6 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A3: create a classroom culture where mistakes are viewed as opportunities to grow and peer feedback is appreciated #growthmindset #formativechat
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I know right. I am really excited to use the one point rubric with Ss this year that I learned from @cultofpedagogy #formativechat
    In reply to @AstroJasonG, @DrDeTuro, @cultofpedagogy
  • carrierenfro Aug 6 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A2: Today I taught the Ss about parliamentary procedure for students organizations. Then led into Ss creating rules and consequences for class. Tomorrow mock court for student behavior. Same ole rules - new introduction -Ss are jazzed about their court. #formativechat
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3: Collaboration and inquiry-based learning with students; let them guide their learning and work together and this will lead to accountability #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3 Create opps for Ss to work together, those collaborations and be there to help as needed, but foster ways for Ss to work together, give peer feedback #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    Great idea! Give them success criteria and let them individualize it! #formativechat
    • PegGrafwallner Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
      A2 Give Ss chance to analyze Learning Intention & Success Criteria. Let them break it apart, reword/rewrite it in their own words, modify it for their ability (I am so excited to share that I am working on a chapter dedicated to this topic in my next book!!) #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    that is awesome! such an authentic learning experience #formativechat
    In reply to @carrierenfro
  • vendi55 Aug 6 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3 - Create a classroom environment that encourages collaboration, communication, critical thinking, and creativity. #21stcenturyskills Celebrate attempts at learning in an open and trusting environment. Model and promote peer assessment. #formativechat
  • AstroJasonG Aug 6 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3: This is going to get said a lot: Jigsaw/pair&share. I love the idea of all my Ss doing an inquiry, then sharing their (in)correct findings with the class & using argumentation. Ss generally try to be more prepared when they have to teach their classmates! #formativechat
  • holliewood24 Aug 6 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3) I gamified my research paper this year by having the entire class compete against the other class on completing the paper. I didn't give them any due dates, they helped each other stay motivated and complete the work...I just sat back and watched it happen! #formativechat
  • chrisduane819 Aug 6 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    LOVE it! Thanks! #formativechat
    • mrshowell24 Aug 6 @ 7:46 PM EDT
      A2- Creating a checklist for students to check their work before turning in their work. Also providing immediate feedback to ss as they are working. #formativechat
  • MrsAsztalos Aug 6 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3 If they are sure that they have mastered the content, have them teach it to someone else. Positive peer support can be very powerful if done with purpose. "A rising tide lifts all boats!" #formativechat
  • IdeaShopPD Aug 6 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3 Social dynamics can be tricky with older students. Nobody wants to be seen as less than. Itā€™s why peer assessment has to be so carefully orchestrated. Accountability for me can be thought of as motivation. Engaged kids create energy that spur others on. #formativechat
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Learning to understand and learning to teach are too separate levels of mastery. I LOVE the idea of working towards this idea. You could make it a long term goal where you have students lined up ahead of time for their topics. #formativechat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    I love this! What a great way to engage students in their learning! i love #gamification but have so much to learn about it #formativechat
    In reply to @holliewood24
  • LScumpieru Aug 6 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Lisa Scumpieru, Digital Integration Specialist in Hagerstown, Md. #formativechat - Sorry Iā€™m late, but my husband volunteered to help me paint the living room! I cannot pass that up!
  • Blended_Math Aug 6 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    #formativechat - A3 - This comes from creating a class culture where we are all in this together and we all strive to overcome our mistakes. If someone doesn't understand, you can assign a high performing student the role of Explainer and put other Ss in charge of others learning
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Q3 is now up in #formativechat !
  • smarterteacher Aug 6 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A.3 we learn most when we teach each other. We can only give what we truly own. By taking ownership of the knowledge we can then give it to others. Peer to Peer teaching is essential. #formativechat
  • timlriley Aug 6 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Love that idea #formativechat
    In reply to @holliewood24
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    definitely celebrating all attempts in learning, celebrate the effort and enjoy the process #formativechat
    In reply to @vendi55
  • LScumpieru Aug 6 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A1: Ss can influence the direction of learning based on their data by allowing the T to access oneā€™s teaching style. I will give the assessment in another way and will find that Ss knew the information, the way they were assessed was flawed. #learnwhileyouteach #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Aug 6 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A1: Ss and Ts can reflect on the assessment and the data evaluating the fairness of the questions, the number of questions they took risks on, and the ones that made them apply knowledge in unique ways. #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Aug 6 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A2: Allowing Ss to help create the rubrics or targets to look for will let them be more aware of what the end result will look like. Often as a T, I had to remind myself that not all Ss do the assignment like I would learn. #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Aug 6 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A3: Ts can create opportunities for Ss to hold each other accountable by having them not only assess one another, but evaluate the process along the way. #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    Yes! Holding other Ss accountable doesn't have to be a "gotcha" game. Love this idea of helping Ss develop positive relationships with mistakes and helping their peers. #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Aug 6 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A3: PBL lends itself to Ss evaluating one another and making each other accountable to know the material for the sake of the group. #formativechat
  • dbuckedu Aug 6 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A3: Great Q. Have been interested in students creating ā€œopenā€ products that can be used for future courses. Ex: A student who composes a wonderful rhetorical analysis of a genre and places the work under a Creative Commons license so I can use it in future course. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Hey Lisa! Absolutely love doing #pbl #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • PegGrafwallner Aug 6 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    A3 1) Ss do not work alone in desks, they work at tables or pods. 2) Always have a list of Thinking Questions so Ss have opportunities to share/talk 3) Give Ss opportunities to share their responses in their pod, then share out loud to the whole class #formativechat
  • FoleyKev Aug 6 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Hi all I m a recently retired Teaching Principal with Irelands first and only Primary School STEAM Room #formativechat
  • ffarry1 Aug 6 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Don't like this question. I realise my situation may be different but with peer pressure etc and wellbeing of students in Ireland being a major issue, I would steer clear of this. #myopinion #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • mrshowell24 Aug 6 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Individuals with disabilities are always on my heart! I have a huge passion for this area in education! #formativechat
    In reply to @holliewood24
  • holliewood24 Aug 6 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    ...AND they finished the entire paper in SIX days. I had planned on giving them two to three weeks...lol! Turns out they were better at getting them to do the work than I am! #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    #formativechat If you have a few minutes, would love your responses to a survey I made https://t.co/SMgNvik2GU ā€¦ ā€¦ doing research on education,12 questions, but answer those you want & please share, appreciate all feedback! thank you! #edtech #education
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    That's awesome! #formativechat
    In reply to @holliewood24
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Private conversations are especially important when you're learning how students handle adversity. #formativechat
    In reply to @Kuglmee
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    We can't believe #formativechat is already over! Thanks for joining in this week, everyone!
  • Kuglmee Aug 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    A3: emphasis on the 4Cs, peer tutoring, group work. There are few things I have them do by themselves beyond independent reading #formativechat
  • mhayes611 Aug 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Thanks for a great chat @goformative @Rdene915 @davidwkwan Looking forward to moderating next week! #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    True! I love how you are thinking about accountability! #formativechat
    In reply to @IdeaShopPD
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    I understand that, good point. How about ways for students to maybe just offer encouragement to one another, example when Ss say "I can't do this", "I give up" how can we promote peer encouragement maybe? :) #formativechat
    In reply to @ffarry1, @davidwkwan
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us tonight, everyone! Shout-out to my co-host @Rdene915 ! #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Cannot wait! We definitely need to get our #4OCFPLN here for that too! #formativechat
    In reply to @mhayes611, @goformative, @davidwkwan
  • ffarry1 Aug 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Yes Cara. FAIL = First Attempt at Learning. That's what I tell my pupils @CloughfinNS So important #formativechat
    In reply to @carasenger, @CloughfinNS
  • loliveira55 Aug 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    A3 One of the best ways that I have found for Ss to hold each other accountable for their learning is by having them record that learning using @Flipgrid . The students go and look at each others responses and then provide feedback. #formativechat
  • chrisduane819 Aug 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Iā€™m working on teaching my students the ā€˜methodā€™ of reading for comprehension. It can be cumbersome for them to learn, but the structure, like yours, helps them stay on track and turn in great work. #formativechat
    In reply to @mrshowell24
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I tried to keep up :) #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • Blended_Math Aug 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    #formativechat - Awesome chat! Don't forget to join me on Sunday at 8pm EST for #edChatRI
  • carrierenfro Aug 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    A3: I am having students grade themselves and choose a path to mastery #formativechat
  • Kuglmee Aug 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Have a good night everyone! Thanks for a great chat. 2.5 hrs to go on our trip #familytravel #formativechat
  • chrisduane819 Aug 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    This builds their confidence in their work and then, in themselves. It is an amazing transformation to behold! #formativechat
    In reply to @mrshowell24
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    You did great! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining in, Kathy! We are glad you enjoyed it! #formativechat
    In reply to @Kuglmee
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Aug 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Thanks for saying so! It was great to have you back in #formativechat !
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @Rdene915
  • goformative Aug 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Get ready for another awesome chat, same time...same place next week! #formativechat
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A3: Team based projects. Have them define roles and responsibilities and deadlines for work. Have them help each other achieve goals. #formativechat
  • cgphyland Aug 6 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A3 working in teams with clearly defined roles keeps Sā€™s accountable to each other within a supportive structure . T needs to be mindful that the peer accountability doesnā€™t further isolate some Sā€™s already at risk. #formativechat
  • amynicolebettis Aug 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    I just heard the FAIL breakdown here recently and I LOVE it - what an encouragement for our Ss... not very many of us GET something on the first try, so we have to keep working and try again! #formativechat
    In reply to @ffarry1, @carasenger, @CloughfinNS
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Recording learning events can be extremely valuable if students are guided with what to look for and how to give feedback. Feedback is something most adults can't even do. #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55, @Flipgrid
  • mcbride_edutech Aug 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A3: Teamwork and creating the classroom culture from day 1. #formativechat
  • mcbride_edutech Aug 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Late to chat but I really enjoyed strolling through the Qs &As #formativechat
    In reply to @goformative
  • chris_kittredge Aug 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Peer feedback is a crucial skill to learn. It's not natural for most people to do and requires repetition to learn it. Building in opportunities to "fail" without significant consequence allows for practicing a lot of necessary skills #formativechat
    In reply to @ffarry1, @carasenger, @CloughfinNS
  • ffarry1 Aug 6 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Absolutely David. #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan, @Rdene915
  • ffarry1 Aug 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    But we as educators have to make sure our students know that we are trying to keep ourselves updated by chats like #formativechat and strive to be #lifelonglearners
    In reply to @amynicolebettis, @carasenger, @CloughfinNS