#FLEdChat Archive
#FLedchat is a virtual meeting place using Twitter. Educators across the state of Florida come together on Wednesdays at 8pm EST to discuss the topics of the week.
Wednesday April 27, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:00 PM EDT
#FLedChat
is happening now. Please join us.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Good evening,
#FLedChat
How is everyone tonight?
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:01 PM EDT
@Kent_Darr
@gaofei9
@bgsu
Not bad. I might participate after
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Howdy
#Fledchat
folks!
KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi
#FLedChat
. I'm Kristin from St. Augustine, FL.
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
Hey Lisa!
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Lisa from NE FL
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
Hey, Kristin!
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ossaf
Apr 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Ossa Fisher, CMO of
@IstationED
joining in. Excited to listen and learn!
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
Hi Lisa
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Howdy Tammy! Long time no see!
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@TG_Neil
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:03 PM EDT
I'm Tammy from N FL. I'm excited to be here tonight.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
Howdy neighbor! Good to see you, too!
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keiramhamilton
Apr 27 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi,
#FledChat
! Keira Hamilton here, grad student
@UCBerkeley
and student teacher in 9th grade English. Joining in for my
#MUSEDigPed
class.
vitasje
Apr 27 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Jenny Vitas, 3rd grade teacher from Tallahassee!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
I missed seeing you Saturday.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@keiramhamilton
@UCBerkeley
Welcome, Keira. So glad you are here.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
I missed being there. Y'all have a good turn out? Nasty, NASTY bug is running thru campus. Lots out sick
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@vitasje
Hey, Jenny! How are you.
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hey everybody! Kimberly, Media Specialist, Daytona Beach here!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
Just over 60. It was great. Tentatively set for April 22 next year.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@kmhmartin
Hey! I bearly recognized you...LOL
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Tonight we will begin with the Q1/A1 format until the conversation gets started.
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Ba-dum-dum!
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi
#fledchat
๐ Mary, 3rd grade T from N Central Fl
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Please remember to include
#FLedChat
in your responses so we can all share in your excellent knowledge.
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@mleonard03
Hey, Mary! How are you?
#FLedChat
KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@mleonard03
Hi Mary! So glad to have you on
#FLedChat
tonight :).
ERobbPrincipal
Apr 27 @ 8:07 PM EDT
#fledchat
Evan Robb from VA--
kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@mleonard03
Hey there, Mary!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@ERobbPrincipal
Welcome to
#FLedChat
Evan. So glad you are here.
MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Rachel, T and Tech Integrator from NY
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
I'm happy to be here! I've been trying to make it, we have
#3rdchat
and Wed nights are Girl Scouts!
#fledchat
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Here comes question 1
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Joey from Flagler! Sorry I'm late. Hey Kristin!
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
Hi, Rachel!
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
doing well! Still excited about
#edcampbranford
๐hope all is well with you!
#fledchat
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:09 PM EDT
** Q1 ** What is cheating? How do you define it?
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Good--hope to come next year. Far off, I know. but not forgotten!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@mleonard03
Yes, I've recovered (sort of).
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: representing something as your own, that is not. Test answers, quotes, papers,research, hw, etc.
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@josephdipuma
Hey Joey!! Glad to have Flagler Director of Innovation in
#FLedChat
tonight :).
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: Cheating: Using dishonesty to get ahead.
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1. Cheating to me can be either looking at someone else's paper for answers or passing off someone else's work as yours.
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: taking something that isn't your own and saying it is.
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keiramhamilton
Apr 27 @ 8:11 PM EDT
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A1: I think of cheating as any means a S might use on an assessment that prevents me from accurately understanding their skills.
MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
@josephdipuma
Director of Innovation? That sounds incredibly awesome!!
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vitasje
Apr 27 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1- cheating is taking someone else's ideas and using them as yours. Showing more what other Ss know than what you know.
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ERobbPrincipal
Apr 27 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
A1
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Cheating- not doing your own work and claiming it is yours- copying answers from others who know
KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: Choosing the easy way out, not learning
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@keiramhamilton
Ooh! That's a great way to look at it! Because isn't that what we are supposed to use assessment for?
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Twitter really needs 2make chats on phone faster. Loading is so slow& I miss so many tweets bc they don't load!
#firstworldproblem
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@mleonard03
Those are great reasons :).
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1: Laziness - avoiding responsibility and the opportunity to learn something
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:14 PM EDT
If you received help from someone on a graded assignment, is it cheating, even if you admit to getting help?
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Great question.
#FLedChat
https://t.co/xrMAzoWhMf
BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:14 PM EDT
If you received help from someone on a graded assignment, is it cheating, even if you admit to getting help?
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vitasje
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@keiramhamilton
agreed!
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
Wouldn't think so. If you denied getting help; that would be dishonest, but I don't think it'd be cheating
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
Having the same issue with my laptop!
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
should all graded assignments be done in isolation? much of the real world is done collaboratively.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
b) But then again, it would depend on the assignment
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
What if you got "help" with every question?
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1: Cheating is behavior that is disrespectful and infringes on others.
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
#FLedchat
could depend on the time the help was given? Good question though.
kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
I wouldn't think so, especially on a project. After all, we do want Ss to work together (collaborate).
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
@BrianAlaback
Help from--teacher? Peer? It'd really depend on the assignment
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
what if that help actually clicked and now you get it, but before the help you didn't?
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1: Usually it means doing something that gives you an unfair and/or unequal advantage.
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21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1. The result of bad instruction. Questions with No need for critical thinking
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https://t.co/sP4yvBKtGM
BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
@kmhmartin
Good point, just posing a question that I think has multiple answers based on specific scenarios
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
That's the point. Do we as educators truly define cheating well? Or do we assume we mean the same thing?
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
should all graded assignments be done in isolation? much of the real world is done collaboratively.
#fledchat
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
@TG_Neil
@BrianAlaback
That's a good thing. Did it click b4 or after the grade?
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@kmhmartin
@BrianAlaback
yes! S long as collaborate doesn't mean divide and conquer.
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ERobbPrincipal
Apr 27 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
A1
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Great point on behavior- should make it hard to look in a mirror
MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
@BrianAlaback
I'm 100% positive we don't define it the same in my hallway, let alone on grander scale.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Question 2 is on its way.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Being Out of the classroom has caused me to redefine how I teach. Bottom line 4 me: Did the Ss learn the objective?
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:19 PM EDT
As a 4th grade math teacher, I'd balk at students using calculators. Now? Sure. Go ahead. Ss get it!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:20 PM EDT
** Q2 ** What consequences are there for cheating?
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@21stCenPrinKW
#Fledchat
can we agree that pairing a student with a teacher that doesn't challenge them a "cheat"?
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2: Knowledge not gained
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
BINGO, it's not about the grade, it's about the learning and the application of the learning
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I remember Ts saying, "You won't always have a calculator with you". Now we do :).
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https://t.co/vPdmPtESaK
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:19 PM EDT
As a 4th grade math teacher, I'd balk at students using calculators. Now? Sure. Go ahead. Ss get it!
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@TG_Neil
@BrianAlaback
and does it need to be graded? Is the grade or the comprehension more important?
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
YES! I cringe when I remember how much emphasis I would put on grades B4
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ERobbPrincipal
Apr 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
A2
#fledchat
Rather than a blanket statement about consequence-with kids we need to understand why it is happening
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
Yes, indeed. They're everywhere!
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: First, try to reveal the reason for the "cheating"... Determine if it was laziness or a missed opportunity? Communication?
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keiramhamilton
Apr 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
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A2: Cheating results in students not acquiring the skills necessary to progress their learning.
KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: I think the biggest consequence is probably lack of learning, therefore lack of confidence in their ability.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
@TG_Neil
@BrianAlaback
I find Ss do better when they're not sweating the grade. Less temptation to cheat.
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: Guilt, sometimes. Reflection on behavior and then make amends.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@ERobbPrincipal
@TG_Neil
Agreed. A case by case scenario
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@josephdipuma
or scared of failing?
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21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2 how about the opportunity for the T to understand why cheating was possible. Talk to the S to engage he/she knows
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2. In elem., 0 for grade, phone call to parent or conference w/parent. I think there should be an alternative assignment given.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:24 PM EDT
What are your school/classroom policies on cheating?
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2: lack of mastery of content. I tell Ss it's a lack of belief in themselves, thinking others have right answers and they don't
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
@lisab_1964
plus we can be asking them questions that require more steps and complexity.
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@MrsMurat
@TG_Neil
If there were no grades, what would B the benefit of cheating? NONE mayB Ss would focus on learning
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:25 PM EDT
I tell Ss, if you are letting someone "cheat" then you're telling them they can't do it on their own.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@BrianAlaback
@MrsMurat
@TG_Neil
Agreed. What could we give parents in place of grades as proof of learned knowledge?
#Fledchat
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Interesting options. Thanks
@DobieKJ
for sharing.
#FLedChat
https://t.co/tAjLUVqFky
DobieKJ
Apr 27 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Depends on the type of cheating. Cheating off another kid, split the grade. Cheating online, divide grade by 1/3. Zero not option.
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
That's a good idea. Hadn't thought of it that way.
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
convo definitely opens the door for character building! ๐๐
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
and giving them an edge that you didn't have.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Here comes question 3
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:28 PM EDT
First part of A2 was schl pol. I don't have to do grades, so I'm lucky. I would hope that I would talk w/S & give alternate work.
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
how about a product/service that solves a real world problem?
#fledchat
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:28 PM EDT
** Q3 ** What causes a person to cheat? How do we address those issues?
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
how about a check mark next to the standards that the Ss have evidence of meeting?
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: Lack of confidence. Scared of failing; lack of preparation..
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
Would a checkmark be proof enough for parents?
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: Fear of failure, anxiety, lack of preparation, overwhelmed
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: lack of something..time, planning, confidence, knowledge, etc
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: I've had Ss tell me they have to have good grades no matter what. Feel acceptance is tied to grades. (makes me sad)
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@MrsMurat
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
Not a bad idea....
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: unpreparedness? Laziness? What about stress or home conflict? Fatigue? Your classroom environment? Air temp?
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
I'm not seeing the Qs posted. I missed Q2 and Q3
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
if the Ss could demonstrate that they have met it. Isn't that better than an arbitrary 71?
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Here's Q3 again.
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https://t.co/z15xJtZXv2
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:28 PM EDT
** Q3 ** What causes a person to cheat? How do we address those issues?
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21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3. Expectations of Our measurements for success.
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cybraryman1
Apr 27 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3 Kids under a lot of pressure but need to model proper social skills and honesty. My Social Skills page
https://t.co/URou7iLs8N
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
we all use different grading scales, so is a 71 in your room the same as a 71 down the hall?
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Lol! Who knew we could just change the temp. :).
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https://t.co/WiKSIgxu9A
josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: unpreparedness? Laziness? What about stress or home conflict? Fatigue? Your classroom environment? Air temp?
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Some people cheat even when they don't need it to score well. What about the person who provides an answer to another person
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A3: lack of confidence, pressure to succeed, not being prepared. Teach with purpose, reflect on Ss cheating and why, support Ss
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A3. Not prepared, lack of confidence, didn't understand material. Lots of check-ins, formative Qs can help spot misunderstandings.
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
@BrianAlaback
@TG_Neil
a standard is a standard. Allows for
#stuvoice
and
#stuchoice
in how to meet it.
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MrsMurat
Apr 27 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
or parental approval. ๐
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keiramhamilton
Apr 27 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: Lack of investment in the material. Ts need to make the purpose behind learning clear to Ss in order for them to engage.
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: A desire to something that you don't have or you believe you want.
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A3 Some cheat to: 1. Draw attention for help 2. 2 C if they can get away with it 3. Fear low grade 4. To help someone else
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:34 PM EDT
So true!
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https://t.co/Rr40p1vZSi
FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: A desire to something that you don't have or you believe you want.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Yes! I once had a "deal" with a student. Get "caught" cheating and you can sit with me to relearn.
#FLedChat
https://t.co/RtEmYbayCz
BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A3 Some cheat to: 1. Draw attention for help 2. 2 C if they can get away with it 3. Fear low grade 4. To help someone else
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:36 PM EDT
It allowed Student to maintain pride without looking like she wanted to be a "book worm".
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https://t.co/CrvjDU1N10
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Yes! I once had a "deal" with a student. Get "caught" cheating and you can sit with me to relearn.
#FLedChat
https://t.co/RtEmYbayCz
BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A3 Some cheat to: 1. Draw attention for help 2. 2 C if they can get away with it 3. Fear low grade 4. To help someone else
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:36 PM EDT
It is also to achieve something that something out there has made you feel a pressure
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Who knows? Maybe that's really what they wanted! Attention from you!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Yes, she did. She felt behind and lacked confidence. It allowed her to move forward on her terms.
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Who knows? Maybe that's really what they wanted! Attention from you!
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I can't help but think of Ts who have been caught cheating on high stakes testing.
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Pressure, fear
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Question four is on its way.
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21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A3 cheat because its a bad assessment tool.
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https://t.co/VoeJ8PEMZG
kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
Yep! How sad is that???
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:39 PM EDT
** Q4 ** How do we create an environment where cheating isn't an issue?
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@21stCenPrinKW
far too many browse formative assess=paper test, ugh!
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A4: De-emphasizing grades
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A4: Less T/F or MC type worksheets/tests
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
sad :( we teach to standards, not test
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A4: Promote a
#Floridamindset
of growth, remove pressure, replace with safety
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21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A4 teach dinosaur. Let Ss learn with passion
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https://t.co/8TQNRTSeYv
mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@21stCenPrinKW
far too many believe formative assess=paper test, ugh!
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A4: Create lessons that allow Ss to work at their own pace. Meaningful, authentic assessments that Ss are proud of
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4: I think we create an environment that is engaging, flexible and resilient... and we "test" when Ss don't realize it's a test.
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jeffherb
Apr 27 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4: Create authentic opportunities for students to demonstrate their learning in ways that cheating isnโt an option.
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A4. Do more collaborative projects. Quick formative assessments. Standards-based checklists to show mastery rather than grades.
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: cont... Would probably take the pressure off if they thought it was just another fun assignment.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: Saw somewhere that Ss could pick and choose their assignments from T list. Several ways to prove understanding of standards
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4 When we personalize the learning, there are no standard answers. Each S working on own work. Learn skills along the way
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FirstAtBat
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I also think daily affirmation of what they are doing is to be celebrated.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: (B) Several activities for Ss to just choose 1.
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cybraryman1
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4 Cut down on standardized testing and choose better ways to assess eg portfolios for each student.
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: by establishing relationships, trust, community, and authenticity with Ss. Teach
#growthmindset
, celebrate successes daily
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
If we judged T. Edison by how many tries it took him to successfully invent a lightbulb, he would probably be considered a failure
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Cool stuff from a kiddo's 20% Time project last year. Harmonized Learning: The Island by Rosalie Garzia
https://t.co/MC0Jn3MJqY
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Cool stuff from a kiddo's 20% Time project last year. Harmonized Learning: The Island by Rosalie Garzia
https://t.co/rg6MKCI75n
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@josephdipuma
yes!!
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A3 So many reasons kids cheat. Feeling bad about not measuring up is one of the biggest reasons. Must change the paradigm
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Environments like this one.... That will be finished next month ;D
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:45 PM EDT
True! This reminds me of the book "Drive" by Daniel Pink. We need to help Ss develop intrinsic motivation.
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: cont... Would probably take the pressure off if they thought it was just another fun assignment.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Hey
@dayankee
when'd u sneak in?
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2 Some of my kids plagiarize. Their punishment is a talk from me and they must redo the work for full credit. Teachable moment
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@josephdipuma
Love it!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Question five will be here shortly.
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Which school is this?
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Environments like this one.... That will be finished next month ;D
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https://t.co/Q3V4xWr2KC
josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
#fledchat
Read it and loved it. Daniel Pink is pretty amazing.
dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@lisab_1964
I just jumped in. I love
#fledchat
and have been bad about attending lately. One of my favs tho
danvkoch
Apr 27 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Dan here sneaking in for a Q
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@josephdipuma
@KristinCHarr
Drive is a game changer! Also, all of Ken Robinson's stuff is amazing too.
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DennisDill
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If kids are able to cheat on an assignment was the assignment worth doing? Is Googling cheating?
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@dayankee
ur in good company. I can't seem to stay consistent.
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is definitely one of my favs, also.
21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Been sneaking in my answers as well
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@danvkoch
Hey Dan!
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
#fledchat
The other middle school we never went to. Get ready for another visit!
KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
I'll have to check that out.
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@josephdipuma
@KristinCHarr
Drive is a game changer! Also, all of Ken Robinson's stuff is amazing too.
#fledchat
dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@DennisDill
I put a test on Google Forms a few years back & let kids Google info. If they could Google it, shouldn't be on test
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danvkoch
Apr 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
@MagicPantsJones
@TG_Neil
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
For sure!!
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
#fledchat
The other middle school we never went to. Get ready for another visit!
dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
Robinson's TED Talk, "Are Schools Killing Creativity" is awesome viewing
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:50 PM EDT
** Q5 ** How do we change the mindsets of those around us to include more creative learning opportunities?
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@NA_Dellsey
@DennisDill
No. I stopped giving tests after that experience. I have never given an ELA test and stopped giving SS
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@dayankee
@KristinCHarr
totally agree! Love that talk
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DennisDill
Apr 27 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@dayankee
kids cheat because they can ... yes, there is pressure, but lets be honest, ... they cheat bcuz they can
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A5 We need to realize that when we introduce a creative element to the work, the challenge level increases, Ts should embrace it
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A5: I think we provide more ProDev - in an active learning space with maker assignments and engaging lessons.. Like we do with Ss
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keiramhamilton
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A4: Emphasize the real world implications for the skills they are learning so that students see the value in learning!
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@DennisDill
True, so if we structure the work differently, they are working on their own work and can't cheat off of someone else
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A5: Honestly? I have had little success in changing anyone's mind around me
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cybraryman1
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A5 Give students time to pursue passions & provide more creative opportunities eg. Makerspaces, Genius Hour, PBL to solve problems
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A5: Share and model, Ss will advertise, open your door even if you aren't comfortable
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DennisDill
Apr 27 @ 8:52 PM EDT
I'm retweeting without proper citation ... I'm plagiarizing ... LOL
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@DennisDill
I put a test on Google Forms a few years back & let kids Google info. If they could Google it, shouldn't be on test
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A5: cont... Even off site ProDev .We've done them at outdoor restaurants and coffee shops. Teachers loved it. Just bring devices
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fullerenglish
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Tiffany from Daytona dropping in late.
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@DennisDill
Dang it! lol
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A5. Don't really have a specific answer, but I'm hoping to start the conversation now & implement a plan next year.
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daveschmittou
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Often teachers penalize kids for copying off of classmates but praise them when they copy every word the teacher says.
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A5: Modeling and sharing resources... more edCamps too :).
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keiramhamilton
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Q5: Creativity and rigor are not mutually exclusive! Let's ditch worksheets and assign projects that focus on 21st cent skills.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
#FLedChat
will be archived later tonight and can always be found on our website.
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jeffherb
Apr 27 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A5: Check out my latest article about this: โFor whom do your students create?โ relevant for the Q!
https://t.co/gbGHQHhNlq
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josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:54 PM EDT
I've seen too many ProDev days where Ts sit in an empty media center or cafeteria "working on lesson plans" - it's boring.
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DennisDill
Apr 27 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@dayankee
Each kid should be creating something of their own ... their own learning opp ...
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21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5 administrators who promote a growth mindset--for Ts and Ss
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KristinCHarr
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Wow! This chat has gone so fast.
@TG_Neil
&
@Celeste_Clemons
you are a great team for creating topics/questions.
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fullerenglish
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A5: sell them on positives of assessing Ss in mediums that harness their success. Assmnt isn't Gotcha or 1 sz fits all
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@kmhmartin
would love to hear how it goes 4 u. Hope you keep us posted, if possible
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
The Kindle edition of Cultivating Genius is on sale! Get your 20% Time groove on!
https://t.co/yf8HNYtDbm
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BrianAlaback
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@daveschmittou
So true! Seems like we promote copying as an acceptable behavior, hmm
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@DennisDill
Exactly!
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DennisDill
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Dear Teachers, If you give a kid a worksheet don't be mad when they cheat. You gave them a cheating opp NOT a learning opp.
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cybraryman1
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Here is an area we have to address: My Plagiarism page
https://t.co/q1oheB8zcH
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@keiramhamilton
here would be a good plug for
#Ditchbook
;)
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Boom!
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DennisDill
Apr 27 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Dear Teachers, If you give a kid a worksheet don't be mad when they cheat. You gave them a cheating opp NOT a learning opp.
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mleonard03
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
We've got
#3rdchat
coming up right after
#fledchat
come out and share your thoughts on Science in Elementsry CR
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Why 20% Time? Well, there is no cheating!
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@KristinCHarr
#fledchat
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
No way it's been an hour!! I'm not done talking with y'all! LOL
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dayankee
Apr 27 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@DennisDill
We do the same thing in faculty meetings when we're given forms to fill out. No different
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
is
@Celeste_Clemons
in here? I've not seen her post?
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:58 PM EDT
She and I worked together on topic/questions tonight. She stays late to work with students.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:57 PM EDT
is
@Celeste_Clemons
in here? I've not seen her post?
#fledchat
lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Very cool. Hey--will we have
#Fledchat
during summer? Or too soon to say?
josephdipuma
Apr 27 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Keep in mind, devices don't solve everything - if you're using them for substitution. An iPad can be the same as a sheet of paper
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kmhmartin
Apr 27 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@fullerenglish
Same should be true for T evaluation. Just sayin!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Apr 27 @ 8:59 PM EDT
We have stayed active for the past 2 summers. We shall see about this summer.
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lisab_1964
Apr 27 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@TG_Neil
Very cool. Hey--will we have
#Fledchat
during summer? Or too soon to say?
21stCenPrinKW
Apr 27 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Enjoyed the chat. Thanks for letting me participate.
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