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Thursday May 26, 2016
9:00 PM EDT

  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight’s #atplc chat. Remember to utilize the hastag #atplc throughout the chat. #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight’s #atplc chat. Remember to utilize the hastag #atplc throughout the chat. #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight’s #atplc chat. Remember to utilize the hastag #atplc throughout the chat. #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Tonight’s topic: Developing mathematical thinkers (teachers and students!) in a PLC #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Please take a second to introduce yourself and your position #atplc
  • ChrisTuckerEdu May 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Chris Tucker, assistant principal in Indiana. #atplc
  • MsKimball1 May 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Shannon from Washington, 1st grade teacher. #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Q:1 How do we change the self-image of those sts that say “I’m not good at math” #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    I'll bite belatedly - or arithmetically? I'm Brian. I teach MS Ss English is CO. #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 Three starting points: Unpack "math." Seek easier wins to (re)build confidence. Append "yet" to the end of the statement. #atplc
  • MsKimball1 May 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: Recognize that there is more than 1 way to 'get' math;let them know that not understanding it right away isn't being 'bad.' #atplc
  • mrsmcreading May 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Hi #atplc! Amber, 7th English in OK. A1: Go back, trace the attitude to where that thinking started. Repair the foundation. Insecurity=root.
  • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    #atplc A1: use rich tasks w/ low floor: they can enter, will be interested Todd Hinnenkamp, @NKCSchools Dist. Instr. Coordinator
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Q:2 How do we change the self-image of tchrs who say “math is not my thing” #atplc
  • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A2: as @brianrozinsky noted: it isn't their thing "yet" - develop skills, change mindset through PD, support, & risk-taking #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 I want to combine the answers to Q1 from @kampTHree1six, @mrsmcreading, & @MsKimball1 #atplc
  • MsKimball1 May 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: Ts are like Ss--try & find the root cause 1st. Make math approachable instead of intimidating. #atplc
  • mrsmcreading May 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: Again,I'd go back to where that mindset started. If it was a T who imposed that,remind them how powerful their own attitudes are! #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Q:3 When we plan st learning exper, should the target be what sts lrn or how they will go about lrning it? Which is mst impor? #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2 What's a more tactful way to ask, "If you're saying, 'X isn't your thing,' then do you also mean you're a T opposed to learning?" #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    @brianrozinsky Great point Brian! #atplc
  • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    @brianrozinsky I wonder about asking the T: "what would you do if a student says math isn't their thing?" Might stimulate reflection? #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3 My progression typically starts with the what, ideally yoked to a strong why, accompanied by a menu of how's. #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    @kampTHree1six I like that POV shift. Feels useful on multiple levels. #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Q:4 How do we chg the priority of a math clasrm from a focus on getting the right answer twrd making sense of the math? #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Analogous literacy moment to tonight's #atplc math focus: "I don't like to read. I'm not a good reader."
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4The biggest way to help shift the focus is to show Ts where the math is leading #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4 Presuming we grade what we value, 1 step might be diminishing assessment focus on right answer. Before that, though, task design. #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4 part 2 If they know where the math is going Ts will understand that simply following a procedure to a right answer isn't enough. #atplc
  • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    #atplc A4: culture where depth is > imp. than speed; pace dictates whether reasoning develops & whether sts learn to communicate effectively
  • mrsmcreading May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4:In some states,change grad requirements!Some can only make sense of real world math through certain levels.Goals guide instruction #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    @brianrozinsky We would never accept that statement from T's about reading but why does it seem to be ok when said about math? #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    I remember 1 of my HS math Ts who labeled procedural toiling as the plug-in-slug-in-Joe method. #atplc https://t.co/Ya9hoFgC1G
    • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      A4 part 2 If they know where the math is going Ts will understand that simply following a procedure to a right answer isn't enough. #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Q:5 How do we transform mathematics instruc from a focus on memorizing to a focus on understndg? What is the balance?#atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Ts also need to see the importance of fluency vs. speed. They aren't the same thing. #atplc https://t.co/xWAW5zwC5q
    • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      #atplc A4: culture where depth is > imp. than speed; pace dictates whether reasoning develops & whether sts learn to communicate effectively
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5: The balance is what is logically driven vs. culturally driven. A square is a square bcs we say it is kids need to memorize that #atplc
  • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    @lallen1982 I agree. Fluency, flexibility, and accuracy are each important and must be part of learning over time. #atplc
  • ChrisTuckerEdu May 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A5: Don't give 30 of the same question types. Give 10 questions and have students provide a rule that could solve all the problems. #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A5 However 5+3=8 isn't a culturally developed norm. It's a logic driven norm where understanding takes the primary role for kid #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    @ChadSutton3 I'd counter statements like these are often accepted in service of picking battles. These seem like fights worth having #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    @lallen1982 This is where I quickly get out of my pedagogical depth: math facts vs. application. I glean insights from @ddmeyer #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Q:6 How can we use mathematical tasks to increase the IQ of our students? Or do you believe IQ's are fixed? #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    It may not need to be a fight Ts may just need the statement brought to their attention to shift thinking #atplc https://t.co/LxtuwtOE2M
    • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      @ChadSutton3 I'd counter statements like these are often accepted in service of picking battles. These seem like fights worth having #atplc
  • kampTHree1six May 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    @brianrozinsky @ChadSutton3 Yes, it's approp. for gloves to come off here; student interests (partic., long-term) are signif. to us #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    @kampTHree1six @ChadSutton3 Could be boxing gloves, or better yet the light-fingered variety of the cat burglar seeking side doors :) #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A6 If increasing IQ scores is my most compelling why, I've fallen down a strange, uncomfortable rabbit hole. #atplc https://t.co/Muad8nOtPM
    • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
      Q:6 How can we use mathematical tasks to increase the IQ of our students? Or do you believe IQ's are fixed? #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A6Math tasks that require deep thinking will increase a child's problem solving skills IQ is irrelevant beyond SPED orSAGE placement #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    @lallen1982 Cards on the table is great starting point, I agree. #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    And even then it's not something I notice or am even aware of in the classroom #atplc https://t.co/WBulkkRRA3
    • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
      A6Math tasks that require deep thinking will increase a child's problem solving skills IQ is irrelevant beyond SPED orSAGE placement #atplc
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Q:7 What are your go to professional books that support your vision of quality mathematics? #atplc
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    @lallen1982 Here's ~47 minutes of food for thought re: task design to amp up math problem solving https://t.co/ZyTdlx8jdJ #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Absolutely! #atplc https://t.co/82SpxjYX0M
  • ChadSutton3 May 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    @brianrozinsky The question is do we believe that the educational experiences we provide students can alter intelligence? #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    We absolutely can. That's the entire goal of education. #atplc https://t.co/zQiGCB6Sbf
  • brianrozinsky May 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A7 Heard good things about _The Classroom Chef_ Caveat: Haven't read yet myself. #atplc
  • lallen1982 May 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A7 Mathematical Mindsets by Jo Boaler is amazing! #atplc