#lifelongKDG Archive


Thursday March 1, 2018
7:00 PM EST

  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:00 PM EST
    Intro: Welcome to the #LifelongKDG twitter book club chat. Please introduce yourself with name, location, role, and what you hope to get out of participation in the book chat
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:01 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Melissa from Nebraska, 11-12 ELA. I love talking shop, creativity, getting kids excited about learning and making it meaningful. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:03 PM EST
    YAY! I've been waiting for months to chat with likeminded folks about the #lifelongKDG book by @mres - The book is so affirming to me as it speaks so loudly to my beliefs as an educator (and a human!). Welcome!!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Q1: According to Sir Ken Robinson, creativity is as important in education as literacy and that we should treat it with the same status. Do you agree? How are we doing in this area? How can we improve? #lifelongKDG
  • EarthSwanny Mar 1 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Hi gang - Chris Swanson from NJ - lucky to work w/ Isaacs. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Hello from Brooklyn! I work on partnerships for #CSforAllNYC. I'm excited to learn from this emerging community and discuss how we might make sense of #lifelongkdg for teachers and students in NYC.
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:00 PM EST
      Intro: Welcome to the #LifelongKDG twitter book club chat. Please introduce yourself with name, location, role, and what you hope to get out of participation in the book chat
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:04 PM EST
    My name is Steve Isaacs. I teach game design and development to middle school students in NJ. I am most interested in getting great ideas and perspectives from everyone in the chat. So much great stuff to talk about and so many great people to learn with and from! #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Hey buddy! Great to see you. Double Header tonight :) #games4ed #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:05 PM EST
    My partner in crime :) Thanks to you, so many educators in NYC have access to this great book! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:05 PM EST
    Hey Chris - I thought I was the lucky one :) #lifelongKDG Great to see you!
    In reply to @EarthSwanny
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:06 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Mandi from WV, administrator in PA. In the face of high-stakes testing, I'm trying to encourage my staff to trust in the value of the 4 P's. As always, trying to fill my toolbox with knowledge and experiences. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:06 PM EST
    A1: Honestly, this one is hard for me. I know pre-readers can learn computational thinking and the future jobs and society will depend on computational literacy, but I'm not quite sure "creativity" by itself is as important as literacy. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:04 PM EST
      Q1: According to Sir Ken Robinson, creativity is as important in education as literacy and that we should treat it with the same status. Do you agree? How are we doing in this area? How can we improve? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:06 PM EST
    Don't forget to use the hashtag #lifelongKDG to participate in the chat!
    In reply to @MrMalcontent
  • Dale_Chu Mar 1 @ 7:07 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @mr_isaacs and @KCintheNYC leading a talk on creative learning. Follow along at #lifelongKDG! @mres
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:07 PM EST
    A1: That's quite a statement for this ELA teacher. I'd have a hard time completely putting creativity and literacy on the same level. I see the need for both as hand in hand, though. Creativity needs the vehicle of literacy #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:08 PM EST
    Watching the Waterboy as I write this...We can do it!! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:08 PM EST
    So start with literacy and then encourage creativity? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:08 PM EST
    A1 love ken robinson- if you've ever read him, schools really do kill creativity, and we need to fight for it harder as teachers. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:08 PM EST
    Ah, I really like this framing! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
    👋 all! Erica from NJ here... Interested in (video)games, game design and pedagogy... especially hearing about how others incorporate it into their classrooms! Studied it for my dissertation (defending in 3 weeks!!!) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • MrMalcontent Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
    Sorry Steven, randomly stumbled across... #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
    wow, congrats and best of luck defending! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ericaeducator, @mr_isaacs
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
    I love to see both, especially at a young age. If creativity isn't nurtured at a young age, it's so hard to tap it in high school. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
    A1: I do believe creativity is as important as literacy. Obviously literacy is important but I feel strongly that we need to embrace and encourage creative thinking - in fact, I believe creativity encourages literacy #lifelongKDG
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:10 PM EST
    Tristan stem/coding teacher nj rocks! #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:10 PM EST
    glad you found us! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMalcontent
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:10 PM EST
    Good luck!! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ericaeducator, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:10 PM EST
    WOW! Congrats!!! #lifelongKDG
    • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
      👋 all! Erica from NJ here... Interested in (video)games, game design and pedagogy... especially hearing about how others incorporate it into their classrooms! Studied it for my dissertation (defending in 3 weeks!!!) #lifelongKDG
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Q2: “Friedrich Froebel conceived of early education as a kindergarten because he understood, as gardeners do of plants, that children flourish best in certain conditions” - what conditions have you seen children flourish under in your classroom? #LifelongKDG
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Good morning from Israel! Happy to be here. @mr_isaacs I know it's gonna be great. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Welcome! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @Dale_Chu, @KCintheNYC, @mres
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Good morning, Noa!! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @supervxn, @mr_isaacs
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    A1) I think creativity often takes a back seat to compliance. It can integrate into all subjects when students are given voice and choice. There are so many ways to show what you know. If we can embrace that notion, we give creativity equal status. #LifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Hey buddy! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Good morning! Glad you could join us :) #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:13 PM EST
    A2: Allowing students choice, self-pacing, giving them parameters but not strict boundaries. Allowing for failure and encouraging them to give it another try #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • EarthSwanny Mar 1 @ 7:13 PM EST
    A1 or A2: But does anyone else find creative thinking gets a bad rap? If my students have fun in my class, parents don't think they are learning. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:13 PM EST
    A2: First off Froebel Rocks! In my classes I have found that a choice based learning environment helps students find their areas of interest and it's AMAZING to watch them flourish as a result. I feel like I get to see it every day! #personalizedlearning #lifelongKDG
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:14 PM EST
    Awesome! I teach Multimedia & Game Development 10-12. Using @unity3d @PlayCraftLearn @Roblox @Blender #lovemyjob:) #lifelongKDG #games4ed
    • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:09 PM EST
      👋 all! Erica from NJ here... Interested in (video)games, game design and pedagogy... especially hearing about how others incorporate it into their classrooms! Studied it for my dissertation (defending in 3 weeks!!!) #lifelongKDG
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:14 PM EST
    SO WELL STATED! I think @iwearthecrowns and @alicekeeler would agree. I have to admit that there was a time when I thought that kids who came from Montesori didn't know how to sit still and that was a problem. The problem was the rest of us! #lifelongKDG
    • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:11 PM EST
      A1) I think creativity often takes a back seat to compliance. It can integrate into all subjects when students are given voice and choice. There are so many ways to show what you know. If we can embrace that notion, we give creativity equal status. #LifelongKDG
  • MrMalcontent Mar 1 @ 7:15 PM EST
    Give teachers time anf make sure that the assessment criteria meets the needs of the curriculum... #LifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:15 PM EST
    Hey Debbi! Great to see you :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @DebbiSab, @unity3d, @PlayCraftLearn, @Roblox, @blender
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:15 PM EST
    A2: when they’re challenged, engaged, feel meaning in their efforts, feel socially connected to peers, when felt understood by the teacher-bottom line when you know your students and provide what they need #LifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:15 PM EST
    Sadly, I think this does happen in some school cultures :( #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @EarthSwanny
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:16 PM EST
    And quick tips for how you do this? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @seanmarnold, @mr_isaacs
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:16 PM EST
    A2 unfortunately I see my G&T kids flounder when i offer the chance to explore their passions. It's taken months to coach them back into it. We stifle them from k, and its hard to reverse. Empower them ALL THE TIME! #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:16 PM EST
    This makes me sad! And quite honestly I don't think ANYONE would question that in your class and I do believe the kids are having fun. Keep doing what you do and don't be afraid to take risks. (I know you're not!) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @EarthSwanny
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:16 PM EST
    A2) When students have access to a variety of media and materials, they can tinker and explore their interests and talents. Creativity soars when students take risks and embrace failures. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:17 PM EST
    Hey Sean! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @seanmarnold
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:17 PM EST
    Any specific media and materials you find especially engaging? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:17 PM EST
    Start the year (and continue) with activities (personal narrative, etc.) where students can express who they are. Also also choice in summative/formative assessments to give expression-movie, essay, presentation, PBL, etc. #LifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:17 PM EST
    And that the curriculum meets the needs of the students :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMalcontent
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM EST
    Q3: Mitch Resnick notes that it is not the time spent using tech that we should be concerned with but rather what kids are doing with technology. Can you provide examples of digital technologies or other learning tools designed to facilitate creative thinking? #LifelongKDG
  • EarthSwanny Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM EST
    I LOVE "embrace failures" learning is about making mistakes and learning from them. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM EST
    Agreed. Especially older students who've been so trained to do what they can to earn good grades and the learning is only secondary #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM EST
    Good evening over there. All prepared for #games4ed? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow, @mr_isaacs
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM EST
    Hey I just you pop up on the feed and had to join in-didn’t know there was a chat, but #LifelongKDG suits my personal philosophy fairly well-Hope you and the family are good
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:19 PM EST
    I agree! I have made it my mission to provide a great variety of resources for my students to enrich the learning environment and help them find their passion. #VR #AR #gamedesign #coding #stuchoice #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:19 PM EST
    Obviously @scratch and we've been building curriculum around @p5xjs which seems to be really great for middle and high school kids #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:18 PM EST
      Q3: Mitch Resnick notes that it is not the time spent using tech that we should be concerned with but rather what kids are doing with technology. Can you provide examples of digital technologies or other learning tools designed to facilitate creative thinking? #LifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:19 PM EST
    Heck yeah! It's going to be a great chat! #lifelongKDG #games4ed
    In reply to @supervxn, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:20 PM EST
    Geez - and we have such an opportunity with G&T kids because the idea SHOULD be to provide great opportunities for enrichment, interest driven learning, out of the box thinking (not always the case clearly) #lifelongKDG #edreform
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:20 PM EST
    How do you fund all the great tools you use? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mrsfigmakes
  • wrenchey Mar 1 @ 7:20 PM EST
    Melissa here #lifelongKDG my goal is to connect with other learners and bring inspiration back to my class!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:20 PM EST
    Thanks to @participate, all resources and the chat will be curated via https://t.co/PA3LIF20ES - feel free to chat right there as it helps filter the chat :) #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:21 PM EST
    A3: My focus is on content creation with tech - game design, app design, writing reviews, coding, etc. so I believe with creativity and critical thinking at the core we demonstrate effective use #lifelongKDG
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:21 PM EST
    Hi Steve! Sorry such slow response. Half making dinner half chatting... #lifelongKDG
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:21 PM EST
    A1: Totally agree! I think that schools "talk the #21stcenturyskills talk" but "walk the standardized testing walk". Until we lose that, not a lot will change IMO. #lifelongKDG
  • MrMalcontent Mar 1 @ 7:22 PM EST
    I love the NI Curriculum and the freedom it gives to our teachers... Skills AND Knowledge! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:22 PM EST
    We are great! Do you have the book? We are running this as a 6 week book study twitter chat :) Were you at the #CSTANYC meeting with @mres where they gave everyone a copy of the book :) :) :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @seanmarnold, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:23 PM EST
    What is NI ? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMalcontent
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:23 PM EST
    A3: Love this sentiment. I try to offer creative choice whenever possible. I think some of the most creative apps are basic ones--Google Drawing, for example. So much can be done with it #lifelongKDG
  • wrenchey Mar 1 @ 7:23 PM EST
    A1 I always struggle with the importance of creativity not education because i feel i need to assess it.... instead of creativity i like inspiration .... what inspires me is different than others but really important to a class culture #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:23 PM EST
    Sad, but far too true :( Hopefully we can make strides to change that. I know our #games4ed Tribe are pushing the envelope. Let's bring the #lifelongKDG conversation to the masses!
  • MrMalcontent Mar 1 @ 7:23 PM EST
    Northern Ireland #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:24 PM EST
    What's for dinner :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @DebbiSab
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:24 PM EST
    A3: Students researching civic actions is not the same as liking a friend’s lunch photo-not all internet is equal. #DigitalCitizenship instruction, #GBL, digital storytelling, or digital art tools are great for creativity #lifelongKDG https://t.co/1R18c15t3N
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:24 PM EST
    A2: Great Q! I try to make a supportive atmosphere where they can express themselves and feel it's OK to be wrong. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
    Q4: Chen, president of Tsinghua speaks of A students (those who get high grades) & X students (those willing to take risks / try new things). How can we help young people develop as creative (X) thinkers so that they’re prepared for life in this ever-changing world? #LifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
    Truth! Tech with a purpose definitely encourages creative thinking! #lifelongKDG
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
    A3: it's on the teacher, not the tools. I think you could do it with anything. #lifelongKDG
  • MrMalcontent Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
    https://t.co/P8dyrwwcbP < that's where we work from.... Creativity, skills and knowledge... #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
    Ah - nice! Didn't they license #minecraftedu for the entire region? #lifelongKDG I was in Belfast for @minevention over the summer. It was lovely - Got around the country a bit!
    In reply to @MrMalcontent, @MineVention
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
    Haven't seen the book but it's an excellent philosophy. Here's one that's probably similar: https://t.co/moOSjHFFqW #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @seanmarnold, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:26 PM EST
    A to the MEN! I think you know that I agree :) #lifelongKDG - join the chat with the hashtag too :)
    • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:23 PM EST
      Let’s be honest...creativity will get you further than compliance! Innovation over conformity.
      In reply to @mr_isaacs, @iwearthecrowns, @alicekeeler
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:26 PM EST
    I work in Rockaway. Awesome school @MHActivities Would love to have you visit:) #games4ed #lifelongKDG
    • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
      I work at Rutgers New Brunswick and live in Hackettstown. My husband works in Ridgewood! I’ve visited Steve’s class many times 😀
      In reply to @DebbiSab
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:27 PM EST
    AWESOME! I have had GREAT success with our PTO wish list grants and @donorschoose / @PledgeCents #crowdfunding FTW! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes, @KCintheNYC, @DonorsChoose, @PledgeCents
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:27 PM EST
    Welcome! So glad you joined the #lifelongkdg chat!
    In reply to @DebbiSab, @MHActivities
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:27 PM EST
    I know that all too well! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @DebbiSab
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:27 PM EST
    A4: real pbl . Don't pretend to be the expert. Learn with them #lifelongKDG
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:28 PM EST
    A4: One of my favorite ways for this is #PBL since it challenges those A students to think in new ways and allows X students and those discouraged in class an accessible less-stress entry point #lifelongKDG https://t.co/iGcVOmULlH
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:28 PM EST
    Ben Spieldenner, a kindergartner at heart...joining a bit late. #lifelongKDG
  • BethWatersNeuro Mar 1 @ 7:28 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Elizabeth from STEM Outreach at Cooper Union. Joined late so I’m just going to listen. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:28 PM EST
    Definitely grab a copy of the book and join us for the next 5 weeks as we continue the #lifelongKDG book study. @mres shares the ideas in such a common sense manner.
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:28 PM EST
    A3: @MyStoryball! Can't wait till this gets out! It's an Israeli #edtech startup. A screenless console. "An immersive sound experience that bridges virtual games and the real world around us" https://t.co/q4nzZOOcyN #lifelongKDG
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:28 PM EST
    I flat out admit I am a noob and they are the experts. We are in it together! #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:29 PM EST
    A4: I think it starts with psychological safety and trust. Curious how others build this in their classroom. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
      Q4: Chen, president of Tsinghua speaks of A students (those who get high grades) & X students (those willing to take risks / try new things). How can we help young people develop as creative (X) thinkers so that they’re prepared for life in this ever-changing world? #LifelongKDG
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:29 PM EST
    A4) We have to let them "practice" like any other skill. If they feel they can try it, and not face consequences for failure, it may be less intimidating. The culture of the classroom and school has to support this mindset. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:29 PM EST
    Once I TRULY embraced the co-learning idea my job only got better and better. I love learning side by side with my students #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:30 PM EST
    Glad you can join us - and don't be shy :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BethWatersNeuro
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:30 PM EST
    All about the relationship between the facilitator and the learner. #lifelongKDG
    • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:29 PM EST
      A4: I think it starts with psychological safety and trust. Curious how others build this in their classroom. #lifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
        Q4: Chen, president of Tsinghua speaks of A students (those who get high grades) & X students (those willing to take risks / try new things). How can we help young people develop as creative (X) thinkers so that they’re prepared for life in this ever-changing world? #LifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:30 PM EST
    A4: We need to get away from grades. Plain and simple. I'm not gradeless, but I do grade less. More student reflection on learning, more conferencing. It's more time, but when using student-paced learning, it's totally doable. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
      Q4: Chen, president of Tsinghua speaks of A students (those who get high grades) & X students (those willing to take risks / try new things). How can we help young people develop as creative (X) thinkers so that they’re prepared for life in this ever-changing world? #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:30 PM EST
    welcome! Better late than never! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:31 PM EST
    A4: Allow kids to try and try again. They can always succeed in mediocrity, but it takes guts to fail gloriously! #LifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:25 PM EST
      Q4: Chen, president of Tsinghua speaks of A students (those who get high grades) & X students (those willing to take risks / try new things). How can we help young people develop as creative (X) thinkers so that they’re prepared for life in this ever-changing world? #LifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:31 PM EST
    Hiya Ben! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:31 PM EST
    We could, but that's hard to quantify. Hard to assess equally across the nation, it also takes work, thinking differently, and time. Time that our adult fears aren't necessarily willing to let us have. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:31 PM EST
    A4: I love the stories in the book about @mres and Chen meeting at LEGO - where better to meet? I believe putting resources and much of the learning in the hands of our students helps to nurture creativity through choice and passion driven learning #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
    Q5: Misconception #4: You can’t teach creativity. How can we shift the paradigm to support, nurture, encourage, teach creativity? #LifelongKDG
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
    A4: Tough question....following my answer to Q3 - focus on skills and not on useless knowledge. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
    Make sure you share the answers if you find some :) Really it comes down to relationships--they'll take risks the more they know their grades don't rely on perfection #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:33 PM EST
    and it really is ok - but sometimes i don't think the sentiment is as widely accepted as we think / hope. We need to really drive that point home! IT IS OK to fail. We learn from it! Yet our system doesn't always honor that #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @supervxn
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:33 PM EST
    Choice! Let them tell you what they want to learn. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
      Q5: Misconception #4: You can’t teach creativity. How can we shift the paradigm to support, nurture, encourage, teach creativity? #LifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:33 PM EST
    Thanks. Definitely going to join. Will try and pick up the book soon. #lifelongKDG . It will be a pleasure joining as this builds on what I learned @TuftsECT
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mres, @TuftsECT
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:34 PM EST
    A5: When I think about creativity I also think about the creative process. I think that's something everyone can learn #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
      Q5: Misconception #4: You can’t teach creativity. How can we shift the paradigm to support, nurture, encourage, teach creativity? #LifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:35 PM EST
    Expert = one who may know more than others, one who can communicate it well, preferably with humility, one who mentors and yields the floor; creating other experts in the process. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:35 PM EST
    A5: Genius Hour / Passion Driven Learning allow us to honor and embrace creativity- It is important to go beyond the learning and into the application - let students demonstrate their understanding by modifying an existing product, create something new #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:35 PM EST
    Agreed. I've even had some parents get mad that I've allowed retakes for their own child. Just today a student of mine was working grammar on line and bombed it...but through that he figured it out and got a perfect score the next time! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:36 PM EST
    I also think the book did a great job of laying this out by calling it creative thinking and not creativity. I thought that was a small but significant shift that might help people think it's a skill rather than a trait #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:36 PM EST
    YES! The iterative design process provides opportunities to further develop our ideas and understand that things change along the way based on feedback, testing, etc. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:36 PM EST
    A5: You can teach the an iterative design process which gives a structure for creativity and then provide opportunities for creativity-open-ended questions where neither the answers or the tools needed to find them are obvious/singular #LifelongKDG https://t.co/X2FTvLhhIw
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:36 PM EST
    fantastic #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrterborg, @mres, @TuftsECT
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:37 PM EST
    Speaking my language - but I think we already realized there was a high level of like mindedness here! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @DebbiSab
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:37 PM EST
    A5: To some extent, you can't force Ss to be creative. But we can take away high-risk grades and recognize when risks are taken, even if they don't work out. #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:37 PM EST
    sure, what's useless knowledge? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @supervxn
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:38 PM EST
    A5: I do teach a variety of brainstorming and pre-writing activities. Students gradually find ones that work for their idea development and ones that don't. #lifelongKDG
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:38 PM EST
    Indeed:) #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:37 PM EST
      Speaking my language - but I think we already realized there was a high level of like mindedness here! #lifelongKDG
      In reply to @DebbiSab
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:38 PM EST
    We need to value learning and if it takes multiple attempts, then that is often what the student needs. If the final outcome is mastery, what's the difference? and if the argument of time has to keep coming up we have a problem #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
    Q6: @mres describes two perspectives; 1) techno-skeptic and 2) techno-enthusiast. Where do you fall on this spectrum? How can we create opportunities to leverage our shared values regardless of our stand on tech? #LifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
    A5: PBL, Project-Based learning-make learning fun...once again, celebrate innovation over conformity. Provide challenges, problems & experiences instead of worksheets, memorization & multiple choice. #LifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
      Q5: Misconception #4: You can’t teach creativity. How can we shift the paradigm to support, nurture, encourage, teach creativity? #LifelongKDG
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
    A5) If Ss are allowed to wonder & use their imaginations, they become curious. Curiosity leads to creativity. We can support them in these quests for knowledge and solving problems with a variety of strategies, tools and encouragement. #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
    Thanks. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mres, @TuftsECT
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:40 PM EST
    I’m all for mastery grading-the goal is the learning the skill and retaining not immediate ease-often if ti is just memorization and doesn’t require struggle, it won’t stick #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:40 PM EST
    This! #lifelongKDG Let's take conformity out with the weekly trash!
    • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
      A5: PBL, Project-Based learning-make learning fun...once again, celebrate innovation over conformity. Provide challenges, problems & experiences instead of worksheets, memorization & multiple choice. #LifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:32 PM EST
        Q5: Misconception #4: You can’t teach creativity. How can we shift the paradigm to support, nurture, encourage, teach creativity? #LifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:40 PM EST
    agreed #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @seanmarnold, @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:41 PM EST
    At the grad level I always allow my students to redo papers and projects (more than once if necessary) until they get the grade they want - meanwhile I watch the iterative process in writing/rewriting transform their learning and mastery of the material #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:41 PM EST
    Amen! #lifelongKDG
  • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:41 PM EST
    Yes! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @seanmarnold, @mr_isaacs, @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • RITIGM1 Mar 1 @ 7:41 PM EST
    Just catching up on #lifelongKDG tonight! So much good stuff from friends and colleagues. @theHEVGA @RITMAGIC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:41 PM EST
    Love this - I do the same in middle school :) #lifelongKDG
    • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:41 PM EST
      At the grad level I always allow my students to redo papers and projects (more than once if necessary) until they get the grade they want - meanwhile I watch the iterative process in writing/rewriting transform their learning and mastery of the material #lifelongKDG
      In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:42 PM EST
    A6: Techno-enthusiast. Tech is a tool...a way of getting beyond physical limitations. Tech is never something we “do” it’s a way of making the impossible, possible. #LifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
      Q6: @mres describes two perspectives; 1) techno-skeptic and 2) techno-enthusiast. Where do you fall on this spectrum? How can we create opportunities to leverage our shared values regardless of our stand on tech? #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:42 PM EST
    A6: Even though I work on computer science education I sometimes fall on the techno-skeptic sids if only because I think we can teach computational thinking without tech tools #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:39 PM EST
      Q6: @mres describes two perspectives; 1) techno-skeptic and 2) techno-enthusiast. Where do you fall on this spectrum? How can we create opportunities to leverage our shared values regardless of our stand on tech? #LifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:42 PM EST
    Did y'all know I am also hosting the #games4ed chat right after this one :) The chat is aligned with our #SXSWEdu session "What Kids Say About Games...and Can We Listen" - hoping to see good #stuvoice representation in the chat! #lifelongKDG
  • seanmarnold Mar 1 @ 7:43 PM EST
    A6: Definitely enthusiast, but I try to understand and help those who are skeptical and phobic. Usually keeping it to 1 easy way to save them time/effort & still improve their practice usually overcome reticence #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mres
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:44 PM EST
    This is especially resonant for classrooms where tech tools do not exist of where they don't have adequate bandwidth. It's important for them to feel empowered to teach computational thinking too! #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:44 PM EST
    A6: It may come as a suprise to many of you but I would say I sit on the far side of the Techno Enthusiast side of the scale. In fact I think I weigh the darn scale down. But that's just me :) Creativity embodies the entire scale so tech or not, doesn't matter #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:45 PM EST
    Hey, has anyone seen @iwearthecrowns? She should be involved in this discussion. She's probably watching cheerleading or something :) #lifelongKDG
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:45 PM EST
    A5: 1st step - make people realize that creativity is not a "gift". It's a SKILL! Everybody is creative in some way and if you allow yourself to practice, you'll get better at it. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:46 PM EST
    Q7: Resnick refers to Big-C Creativity (inventing something) and little-c creativity (finding new ways to use something in existence. How can we encourage both Big C and little-c creativity in our classes? #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:46 PM EST
    Meh, sometimes this pdf is more of how I feel about design thinking: https://t.co/9to69EK6Lz #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:46 PM EST
    Do you see a lot of teachers in your area teaching computational thinking even with the unplugged activities? Do teachers see the value of teaching without tech or are the unplugged activities usually used in cohort? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:46 PM EST
    A6) I'm a tech-enthusiast as long as it's meaningful, resulting in creation, and not just consumption. We can have our own perspectives, but our Ss are digital natives and we can't hold that against them. They "speak" differently and we need to embrace that. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:47 PM EST
    and as educators we need to provide opportunities to nurture the practice #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @supervxn
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:47 PM EST
    We try to encourage unplugged activities at all grade bands, esp as I mentioned, when the tech fails. It's a great back-up but it's also a great place to start #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:47 PM EST
    #geniushour #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:48 PM EST
    To me, this is where I think the most overlap is with Froebel. You can see a lot of that in CS unplugged. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:48 PM EST
    Healthy skepticism is a good thing :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:48 PM EST
    A6: Definitely a techno-enthusiast. However, not all things need to be tech. Many options and choices can be created whether tech or analog. Provide the time and materials for both and let students make the choice #lifelongKDG
  • supervxn Mar 1 @ 7:48 PM EST
    Agree! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:48 PM EST
    #lifelongKDG A1. Creativity is as important as literacy. Aimless curiosity is as appropriate as aimless literacy. Both need purpose. Both inspire. Leading to mutual improvements.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:49 PM EST
    A7: I LOVE the notion of "little c creativity" - Many activities have my students learn something and then modify it to put an original spin on it. I believe that embodies the idea of exercising the little c muscle. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:50 PM EST
    A6: Sometimes tech can stifle creativity. Pencil/pen/markers seem to give Ss to be messy and less than perfect #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:50 PM EST
    I have to say that my over enthusiasm has often led me away from the unplugged activities, but it is important for me to consider the value and not dismiss it #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:50 PM EST
    For me, it's not about jobs, it's about understanding an ever increasingly technological world. Esp in relation to citizenship & #ethicalCS questions. If students don't understand algorithms they won't be able to question, vote, build policies that are not oppressive #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:51 PM EST
    A6. I'm an enthusiast, with limitations / reservations. I want the right tech, for the right reasons. Not tech b/c tech companies think we need to have. We need to lead as we know our students best. #lifelongKDG
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:51 PM EST
    A6 enthusiast - we put down consumption too much. We learn by copying. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:51 PM EST
    For me, I've never enjoyed the computer as a primary modality for learning. I like to feel things, build physical models, touch the inputs and see the outputs between my fingers #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:51 PM EST
    Definitely in terms of the Big C Creativity! #geniushour #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:52 PM EST
    Q8: Kindergarten is now becoming like the rest of school. Resnick argues the opposite should be the case. The rest of school (the rest of life) should become more like kindergarten. What are your thoughts? #LifelongKDG
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:52 PM EST
    Being observed next week with my #gamers making Game Release Posters with paper and color pencils in my computer lab. Going to squeeze some tables in for the day so they have room to draw. #lifelongKDG
    • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:48 PM EST
      A6: Definitely a techno-enthusiast. However, not all things need to be tech. Many options and choices can be created whether tech or analog. Provide the time and materials for both and let students make the choice #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:53 PM EST
    Mastery is mastery. Hopefully everything is mastered before college / occupation. Otherwise there are remedial courses .... Take out the fear, help them learn #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mpilakow, @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:53 PM EST
    Makes sense. And I on the other hand have grown up so enamored by computers and hacking away. #lifelongKDG I do love the incredible overlap regardless of the tech vs. no tech argument.
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • DebbiSab Mar 1 @ 7:53 PM EST
    Love that! #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:52 PM EST
      Q8: Kindergarten is now becoming like the rest of school. Resnick argues the opposite should be the case. The rest of school (the rest of life) should become more like kindergarten. What are your thoughts? #LifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:53 PM EST
    That's not skeptic. That's accurate. We don't need tech to teach comp -thinking. It's logic. Give them logic puzzles, etc. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:54 PM EST
    Q8: Kindergarten is now becoming like the rest of school. Resnick argues the opposite should be the case. The rest of school (the rest of life) should become more like kindergarten. What are your thoughts? #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:54 PM EST
    This reminds me so much of this Austin Kleon blog post: https://t.co/2wCXHfbR5d #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:54 PM EST
    A8: You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.-Plato We all need to play more. #LifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:52 PM EST
      Q8: Kindergarten is now becoming like the rest of school. Resnick argues the opposite should be the case. The rest of school (the rest of life) should become more like kindergarten. What are your thoughts? #LifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:54 PM EST
    Math should be fun. Playful. Storytelling. Check out Pi of Life by @Mathgarden for more info. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @seanmarnold, @mr_isaacs, @Mathgarden
  • EduGladiators Mar 1 @ 7:55 PM EST
    💥SATURDAY💥#EduGladiators starts a {NEW} Series for March: Momentum! Join leading the convo on leveraging momentum to move forward! #CCSEDCHAT #lifelongKDG #NYCSCHOOLSTECHCHAT #SeesawChat @RandallSampson @josuefalaise @dkreiness @DanVForbes @c_frangos @FablePaul @Fishthedoctor
  • KCintheNYC Mar 1 @ 7:55 PM EST
    Maybe I define computational thinking differently and see a nuance to what classes you can learn it in. Not sure you need a separate "coding" class. But in stats or science or ELA you can learn CT #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:55 PM EST
    A8 - such an important theme in the book - I hope we can really see this and make appropriate changes. We really have lost much of what Kindergarten is and it is such a noble goal to focus on not losing that spirit #lifelongKDG
  • ericaeducator Mar 1 @ 7:55 PM EST
    A8: Our students (AND we as educators) need MORE time to PLAY! #lifelongKDG
    • alicekeeler Feb 25 @ 12:06 PM EST
      A school "doubled the amount of lunch and recess time its students get from 40 to 80 minutes a day, with felicitous results: lower absenteeism and fewer disciplinary problems. "
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:55 PM EST
    Thank you. Consume to Create. Just look at Weird Al ... :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • MrMillerReads Mar 1 @ 7:56 PM EST
    A8 Ugh, kindergarten. I just remember reading, napping and playing outside I think I learned more from board games than elementary school. It drives ok the creativity. #lifelongKDG
  • MrMalcontent Mar 1 @ 7:56 PM EST
    Only for post-primary schools, which I feel was a mistake. Primary schools can do so much more #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @MineVention
  • mpilakow Mar 1 @ 7:56 PM EST
    A8: Sad but true. Kindergarten is now full of standards, and preschool is the new kindergarten. You have to go there to be ready. We need to embrace the play K-12. That's how we learn best! #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:54 PM EST
      Q8: Kindergarten is now becoming like the rest of school. Resnick argues the opposite should be the case. The rest of school (the rest of life) should become more like kindergarten. What are your thoughts? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:56 PM EST
    What have you learned about me from our Starcraft matches? :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:56 PM EST
    Agreed. We need more. Otherwise, It's boring, soul sucking, etc. We need play, inspiration, and more. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @MrMillerReads
  • mrterborg Mar 1 @ 7:57 PM EST
    We need to use all of our senses as often as we can. Why do we prioritize one or two? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:57 PM EST
    I open my computer lab during lunch for a #lunchbunch - mostly about play - it's great to see kids play multiplayer games and feel like they have a cool space to hang out #lifelongKDG
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 1 @ 7:57 PM EST
    A8) We're doing our Ss a major disservice if we only let them explore their passions & talents in Kindergarten. If we want to keep the spark lit & create lifelong learners, then we need to invite them into driving their future & value the 4P's all the way through #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:58 PM EST
    Play allows us to find our affinity groups - that's worth a lot! #lifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 1 @ 7:59 PM EST
    You are ruthless!!! I have much to learn from you master. #LifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 1 @ 7:59 PM EST
    @stevenisaacs Are you archiving these discussions? I was in the car amd missed tonight.#lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 1 @ 7:59 PM EST
    for sure! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes