#425chat Archive

This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT

Thursday February 22, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome to #425chat, one of the only defensive chats on Twitter! Tonight we are talking all about tackling. Introduce yourselves and remember to follow all of your comrades!
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Brandon Villarreal, DC at McKinney North HS (McKinney, TX) #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • Skillutt28 Feb 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend HS, KS #425chat
  • coachrhenderson Feb 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Robert Henderson Defensive GA/LB Coach Southwest Baptist University #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Cody Case, D-line Coach at East Hall High School in Gainesville, GA. #425chat
  • MyGAOnline Feb 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Zach Herbst QB Coach Cypress, Tx Just and Offensive Guy that Loves to Learn #425chat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Jordan Echer | HC Bluestem Jr/Sr High | Leon, Ks #425chat
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
    We have a spy boys... 😂 #425chat
    In reply to @MyGAOnline
  • MyGAOnline Feb 22 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Only a Spy if I am trying to hide, it is more of an espionage. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachGinn
  • MyGAOnline Feb 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
    My GA Online is most proud to sponsor this subject! Proper Tackling is an extremely important topic. Safety is number 1 for all football coaches! #425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q1: How often do you work tackling per week? #425chat
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Joey Ginn Head Football Coach Bethel HS, OK #425chat
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #425chat Jerry Gordon Broad Run Hs Ashburn VA
  • MyGAOnline Feb 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1:Circuit Everyday by the Defensive Staff #425chat
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: We so a Tackling/Takeaway Circuit at least twice a week throughout season! Must be sure tacklers & force takeaways #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1) We work tackling as a defensive unit at the beginning of the week to start practice, then coaches incorporate tackling during individual on day 2 and/or 3 that is more position specific of time is permitting. #425chat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Everyday. We drill tackling everyday, drills will vary. We always do our tackling circuit. On days we do our turnover circuit we’ll shorten tackling. #425chat
  • DadofPicks Feb 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Joe Pick, Co/Dc, OLB/SS, Creighton Prep Omaha, NE #425chat
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: We do a Tackling/Takeaway Circuit at least twice a week throughout season! Must be sure tacklers & force takeaways #425chat
  • coachrhenderson Feb 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: During fall camp we work our tackling circuit every day. We went to 2-3 days a week with the circuit during the season, but we incorporated it into our Indy time daily #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: Practicing tackling has got to be an everyday activity. You’ve got to keep kids safe. #425chat
  • 425DC1 Feb 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    In camp we work it in stations everyday. During season we will do it once a week as a group. The. We do one tackling drill in each individual group session. About halfway through the season we will start over agai; with some form tackling. #425chat #playwithanEdge
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • USAFootballMT Feb 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Q1. 5= tracking, game corrections, anticipated individual skills, anticipated group, specialty. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: We only have a few one way guys, so we send them through the tackling circuit also. Those guys have to tackle on special teams also. #425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: We run tackling circuit with the varsity Monday - Wednesday at the beginning of practice. #425chat
  • Skillutt28 Feb 22 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1. During camp, we work it each day. Once season hits, we do a tackling circuit on Tues or Weds. Also tackle during Indy on Tues & Weds. #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Absolutely coach! Get them fired up with a circuit to set the tone for the week, then utilize practice time wisely to reinforce good habits. #425chat
    In reply to @JerryGordonFB
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat here is a video of our basic drills..we do a shimmy in warm ups https://t.co/QvT03nnCR0
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Cody Gardner DC Park City, UT Even front, 2 High Dude #425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Great start tonight! Q2 up in 2 minutes! #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A1)Everyday of camp, once a week in season. #425chat
  • Bderb7 Feb 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Blake Derby-DC & LB coach Douglas Freeman High School....little late to the party #425chat
  • DadofPicks Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1) need to rep more. Focused a lot in preseason then Left to Indy during regular season. Plus pursuit drill once a week for conditioning and open field tracking #425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q2: How do you work tackling in the Summer or when you're not allowed pads? #425chat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Do any of you track missed tackles? #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Love that idea coach. May need to incorporate that. #425chat
    In reply to @USAFootballMT, @CoachCCase, @JerryGordonFB
  • MyGAOnline Feb 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: I don't have an answer so I am just going to read and go back and make some chili for my wive's chili cookoff #goodhusbandinoffseason #425chat
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: In OK we get 10 days of Spring Ball (6 Full Contact Days) so we will begin teaching tackling then, we will drill positioning/leverage throughout summer in drill work. #425chat
  • USAFootballMT Feb 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Tracking, tag, Grapple Drills and @tacklesystem is a must, weighted bags mimic contact like no other bag. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase, @tacklesystem
  • coachrhenderson Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: USA Football's Heads Up Tackling system has a ton of drills that you can do without pads or helmets. One of the cheapest investments you can make with some extremely high quality technique and drills. I think it costs $15 to take the course #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • USAFootballMT Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Made for rugby so easily done with no pads #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase, @tacklesystem
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2)We start our progression from the knees and progress to standing and so on. We take our sweet time, takes most the summer, we are looking for mastery of skills, not just adaptation. #425chat
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    we don't track them but we talk about them.usually a leverage, feet or eyes problem #425chat
    In reply to @CoachEch_
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3) I have a non-contact drill I learned while with the @Saints that works hands and hip explosion without any contact. Explode through hips, extend arms, lift up partner, and set back down 5 yds behind. Works well for us. #425chat
    • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q2: How do you work tackling in the Summer or when you're not allowed pads? #425chat
  • Tsuff65 Feb 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Trevor Suffal OC/O-line Adamson High School Dallas, Tx #425chat
  • Skillutt28 Feb 22 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2. We use bags to tackle. Also we will do the Hawk Tackle/Hawk Roll from knees or one step away. #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2) I have a non-contact drill I learned while with the @Saints that works hands and hip explosion without any contact. Explode through hips, extend arms, lift up partner, and set back down 5 yds behind. Works well for us. #425chat
    • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q2: How do you work tackling in the Summer or when you're not allowed pads? #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    S/O to @usafootball !!!!! #425chat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: We can go through our tackling circuit with or without pads. We just slow it down when we don’t have pads. Becomes more about angles and body position. Learned a ton from @CoachKempfBC #425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: We have a daily morning tackling circuit in the gym we can work just with dummies & wrestling mats. We put the emphasis during this time on hip explosion. We also have a floor drills that work breaking down and coming to form. #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    We feel like starting from the knees take some of the fear away from both sides, we want the tackler safe and his partner. Learn to tackle, learn to fall..... #425chat
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2 lots of good drills here https://t.co/DIoBEL7fp2 #425chat
  • coachrhenderson Feb 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    To the best of our ability. I think it is important to know which athletes are constantly having feet or eye issues in a tackle situation. The best way to know that is by tracking missed tackles #425chat
    In reply to @CoachEch_
  • Bderb7 Feb 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2: Use all of Pete Carroll’s tackling videos and incorporate a few of our own teaching cues and verbiage. #425chat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
    We added a “missed tackle” data column on Hudl. We mark it Y or N. Right now it’s the simplest and quickest way for us. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachGinn
  • 425DC1 Feb 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    We do a lot of the stuff being mentioned, form tackling, footwork with closing ground, tracking correct hip, gator roll with bags, teaching angles, the fit, and introducing the buzz words we want kids to know. #425chat #playwithanEdge
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • Bderb7 Feb 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A2: tackling rings and agility bags are great for days with no pads or when you need to have a lighter contact day.. #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Big shoutout to PC's HC @Josh27565815 He does a great job teaching tackling, plus it makes him feel like he is still a D guy. Ha! #425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Q3: What is your point of emphasis when working tackling? Head placement, pad level, arm placement, all of the above? #425chat
  • CoachJoeJones34 Feb 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    We do a lot of approach. Run, come to balance, and follow throw on the doughnuts. Straight up and at an angle. Working the open field "come to balance" drill has been really beneficial. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachPMA Feb 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Today was my first official day as a teacher so I’m slightly exhausted and a little unorganized but thanks so much to the coaches that participated in the #WildBunchChat !!! Next up tonight are both the #8ManFBChat and #425chat support em both!!! #StayWild
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
    How many guys go nuts for a perfect form tackle? Hardest thing to do is correct a kid for a big hit with bad form, everyone gets hyped and I have to walk over and get in his face. So stinking hard,,,,, #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3) So many factors to choose from, but we stress eyes and head up to see what you’re tackling. By keeping eyes up, it reduces the risk of injury, and allows players to be surer tacklers. #425chat
    • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
      Q3: What is your point of emphasis when working tackling? Head placement, pad level, arm placement, all of the above? #425chat
  • MyGAOnline Feb 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 Hips and Hat When I scout kids with bad hips are usually the ones that miss tackles. #425chat
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 Eyes, feet, leverage, body on body #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachJoeJones34 Feb 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
    See what you hit for protection and to prevent miss tackles. Lower your load. Active feet. Violent arms on the club. Grab cloth. Run your feet. Really all the above. Lol. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3:we are a huge leverage tackle team, I firmly believe if you are in proper leverage you can get the job done, we emphasize eyes through the thighs & leverage. Gotta get better at the wrap & squeeze & drive for 5 now. #425chat
  • DBsCoachWhit Feb 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 Head to toe check list: eyes, pad level, hand engagement, knee drive #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • Skillutt28 Feb 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3. We stress eyes up, head to side, trying use same foot same shoulder. Wrapping up their thighs and driving them backwards. Def have two get 2 hands full of cloth no matter how they tackle. Hang on til help arrives. #425chat
  • 425DC1 Feb 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
    We think the biggest emphasis is the approach. You need To maintain proper leverage to be able to execute all the other aspects of tackling. We still talk club up, head placement, grab cloth, drive for five, but that approach is the key. #425chat #playwithanEdge
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • michwags19 Feb 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #425chat we stopped worrying about head placement besides sliding it to a side for safety. Now worried more about pad level, running feet, and leverage.
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • teshda Feb 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    In today’s time you have to put an emphasis on keeping the head out the tackle and running the feet. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • Bderb7 Feb 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    All of the above, pretty much in that order.#425chat
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3: We emphasize eyes up, arms wrapped, and create hip explosion to create power. #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3) I think it is all important, angle, lev, eye, balance. Any one deficiency and the whole thing breaks down. Doing a lot of things right, usually isn't enough, being a good tackling team, is 100% the best thing a defense can be. #425chat
  • BSimmons25 Feb 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
    IMO, Pete has the best technical tackling videos !! #425chat
    In reply to @Bderb7, @CoachCCase
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Ok I am going to put this out there..most missed tackles are a result of the other guy being a better athlete..did you ever notice how many tackles you miss against a superior team #425chat
  • coachrhenderson Feb 22 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Progresses, we focus more on the big picture and look for everything. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #425chat
    • USAFootballMT Feb 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
      Q3. Teach in 5 phases of tackle. Track, Prepare, Connect, Accelerate, Finish. Sub details in each = all the above. #425char
      In reply to @CoachCCase
  • cdragge1 Feb 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A1: I like to work it in depth everyday in camp and at the beginning of the season. Eventually workin it into a short EDD #425chat.
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q4: Do you have different drills or techniques you teach for different positions? Why or why not? #425chat
  • michwags19 Feb 22 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Sometimes kids just have to get to the BC and hang on until the calvary arrives. #425chat
    In reply to @JerryGordonFB
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4 We do a sideline tackle drill w the db's and olb's but not for the "core guys" they will almost never in that position #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • DBsCoachWhit Feb 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Amen to that #425chat
    In reply to @michwags19, @JerryGordonFB
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4: same drills different approach/finish based on position. For instance we’ll teach DBs lower approach than DL, plus distances change based on position. #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4) In our circuit, the concepts are all similar so we get the same technique. Once they get to individual, that is where they reinforce position specific techniques. (DBs: Open Field, LBs: Profile & Inside Out, DL: Roll Tackle, etc.) #425chat
    • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Q4: Do you have different drills or techniques you teach for different positions? Why or why not? #425chat
  • Skillutt28 Feb 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4. Yes. More close quarters, smaller area tackle drills for DL. Open field/sideline/angle shimmy & tackle for DBs. Mixture of both for LBs. #425chat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: We do have some variation in drills by position. Each position coach is responsible for their specific drills. They teach the staff in our first staff meeting so we’re all on the same page. #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4) We don't teach different techniques for specific positions. Now as the LB coach, we work compression tackles more because they will use that skill. #425chat
  • michwags19 Feb 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #425chat A4: absolutely. Everyone gets on tackle wheels but we change their leverage. ILBs are inside out. Safeties/corners who can be force get some o/s in work. ILBs get over blocks then tackle. DL spills then tackle. Lev change = shoulder/foot change
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • 425DC1 Feb 22 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I think you have to have different tackling drills for the positions.Our secondary work more open field, sideline and gator roll tackles.Our front six work more profile tackles and goal line tackles.We will work basic fundys the same but drill game like situations. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • michwags19 Feb 22 @ 9:47 PM EST
    #425chat A4 cont...we change leverage points and angles in approach drills all the time too.
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • USAFootballMT Feb 22 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Q4. Everyone learns everything, never know when it will pop up, difference is how much and how often it is trained. 4 leverages Inside/out, outside/in, sideline, vice. 4 tackle types. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:49 PM EST
    We are trying to keep the head out of not just tackling. At LB we work compression tackle or at least that approach for taking on blocks. I still teaching shoulder fits on lead blocks, so its a two for one. #425chat
  • JerryGordonFB Feb 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Yes, we still tech an old fashioned forearm flipper w the inside leg up #425chat
    In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
  • michwags19 Feb 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
    #425chat also change block avoidance techniques at the start of the tackle to make kids work on their eyes. Have to get eyes off the block into backfield as quickly as possible. I make them redirect in different directions to tackle.
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q5: Any funny stories or moments your personally remember about a great, touchdown saving tackle or missed tackle for a long score? #425chat
  • CODY_GARDNER Feb 22 @ 9:51 PM EST
    @JerryGordonFB The Cottonwood Clinic is getting close, I am looking forward to hearing your presentations. #425chat
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: embarrassing story, my SR. Year I made Front Page of our local paper getting drug into the Endzone by the State Champions’ D1 TB...I had a great hold of his Back Plate after he juked me out of my jock... #425chat
  • brandonvilla55 Feb 22 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5) Not a funny moment, but we had a safety run down a running back from across the field and sprinted 45 yds down the field to strip tackle him at the 3 yd line. Saved a touchdown and got us the ball with a touchback. Great example of effort to the rest of our team. #425chat
    • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q5: Any funny stories or moments your personally remember about a great, touchdown saving tackle or missed tackle for a long score? #425chat
  • EduGladiators Feb 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
    🌹#EduGladiators wraps up this month’s series: We Shall Overcome w/@RosaIsiah helping us examine “Women in Leadership”! Don’t miss it & invite a friend! #425chat #atplc #ElemMathChat #IneLearn #ISEDchat #meded #sstlap #EduAR #K12ArtChat #teachmindful #ditchbook #teachnvchat
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
    We had a 5’5” 130lb freshman make a HUGE tackle on a kick off. Sideline was electric. Kid is running off the field fired up and we went to jump and chest bump...I sent him flying! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • michwags19 Feb 22 @ 9:56 PM EST
    #425chat this year State title game. We r up 22-20 late in 4th. 4th and 3. Their STUD QB scrambles and our soph ILB comes out of his drop and tackles low just like tackle wheel. QB helicopters and is short. High tackle there and he gets the 1st.
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachGinn Feb 22 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5: had a DE in 2016 that made several tackles 15, 20, 30 yards down field on opposite side of field, was the definition of relentless pursuit! #425chat
  • USAFootballMT Feb 22 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Q5. Got ‘corrected’ by JoePA at PSU when Larry Johnson ran me over in 3rd down scrimmage, made tackle but let’s just say he got the first. let’s be honest, he was just better than me! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachCCase Feb 22 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Q5: This year, 3rd and 15, I had a nose guard read tunnel screen and make a tackle at the LOS for the stop. I must have watched that clip 50 times the next morning. #425chat
  • CoachDiG Feb 22 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A1: first off teach tackling in every drill possible. Emphasize approach and point of contact. Drill wise do 5 minutes a day in season. Each position has one area to focus on each day #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • cdragge1 Feb 22 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A3: head placement, pad level, and running the feet. Keeping the kids safe has to be the top priority. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachEch_ Feb 22 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Here’s the tackle. Wish I had the full video of the chest bumped. Ended up losing 49-55 in 2OT. This tackle was huge at the time. Most of our KO team was made up of fresh/Soph. #425chat