#APChat Archive
Professional development expert Jared Wastler, hosts a Twitter conversation at 8:00 p.m. (ET) using #APChat.
Sunday February 21, 2016
8:00 PM EST
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Greeting Everyone! I’m Glenn Robbins and I very happy to be guest moderating tonight’s
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Good Evening I’m honored to be here tonight as we discuss: Innovative Leadership
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Thank you for organizing- AP in Northern NJ Middle School
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Good Evening, Steve, a Middle School Assistant Principal from Missouri
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Hi Brian! Glad to see you jumping in tonight! I’m from southern NJ
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I'm in the beginning stages of my Ed.S and excited to learn what Innovative Leadership looks like from Hampton Roads, VA
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Q1 is coming up in 1 minute1
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Q1:What does “Innovation” mean to you in an educational setting?
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Good Afternoon, I am Basil Marin and I too am excited about Innovative Leadership and how that changes our students and schools!
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Jodie from central Ohio. Currently finishing my admin licensure program! - you should jump in!
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Q1 thoughtful action beyond maintenance leadership
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Aloha Winston, here tonight in Florida for
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Hello, from Canandaigua NY
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A1: Working together with all t's & s's to come up with interesting and meaningful ed experiences
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A1: Bringing forth ideas that will benefit our 21st Century Learners
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A1 The flying expert has arrived in Florida! The man flies over 18 hours and still checks in for
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A1 Positive change to improve student learning and school culture.
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A1: Innovation is understanding the process of change and finding ways to meet the needs of our students in the 21st century.
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A1 beyond the norm, beyond admin maintenance
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A1: bringing methods & technologies in to our students that will help them grow as learners
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A1: understanding and guiding all stakeholders through process of collective growth
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A1) Providing new ideas/mindsets to others. Empowering others to embrace their inner genius.
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A1 Bringing about new ways to engage students and even engaging staff. Helps them perform at high levels
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Chuck, AP from Gahanna-Lincoln HS. happy to be here!
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A1: innovation to me is dong anything outside of the comfort zone of the Ss or Ts.
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Question 2 coming up next!
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A1 recognition of more, for students, staff. Must be start https://t.co/L1cIppxqj9
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A1 beyond the norm, beyond admin maintenance
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A1 reducing waste and clutter. Optimizing opps for success. Adding voices to decision making.
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And inspiring others to do the same. Transparency, trust, autonomy is crucial https://t.co/Yk3icV6qWB
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A1: innovation to me is dong anything outside of the comfort zone of the Ss or Ts.
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Q2: Its been said that schools continue to produce 2nd rate replicas. How have you gone against this?
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A1: creating a culture where it is ok and expected to take risks; action research
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A2: yes- using 21st century skills and modeling positive change to staff
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A2 ask why, just bc its been this way, why
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A2:By allowing Ts to take risks to create a powerful learning experiences, develop growth mindset in our Ss, change our culture
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A1: providing the nudge that systems need to meet all learners where they are...unconventional ideas stimulate growth
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A2. Great question. Has to be about student experience and student voice. They are the energy in a building. Have to be at center.
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A2: , Student led Edcamp Period thats UNGRADED, Personalized learning on LMS, Digital Shop focused on DesignThinking
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A2 allow and support risk,
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A2 Promoting student driven conversation. T's take role of moderator but students drive conversation
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I think you need to take risks and be willing to learn from failures. Need a growth mindset.
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A2: If you haven’t approached this area yet, ask yourself, “What is the experience you are trying to create?”
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For both s and t https://t.co/eyay49Rjf0
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A2: If you haven’t approached this area yet, ask yourself, “What is the experience you are trying to create?”
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A2: I would say as an educator it is imperative to give S's and T's an opportunity to speak and be valued.
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Student and Teacher Voice are key! Truly embrace it and not just say ok. Make it happen.
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Embrace, listen, act upon https://t.co/g1xQEKjVL0
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Student and Teacher Voice are key! Truly embrace it and not just say ok. Make it happen.
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Calling all asst principals. Jump over to now for a great convo on innovation w/ Digital Principal
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When teachers are empower to be leaders, amazing things happen for students. Empower TLs, watch the magic!
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A2 schools have 2b about students than traditions. What do they want to create? What problems do they want to solve?
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Aspiring administrator from central Ohio. Sorry I'm late.
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A2: S's and T's must understand that "Failure" is a huge component of Success. What defines us is how well we rise after falling!
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A2: create the opportunity for dialogue, embrace ideas that aren't our own and develop a plan to implement
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Question 3 in one minute!
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Matt from IL, elem lead learner looking forward to being pushed by
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A2: Step back and become unbiased as an educator. Remove the negative reasons and embrace the positives.
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Q3: How does one create a culture & climate for innovation to be successful? Does culture & climate even play a role?
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Glad to see you Matt! We need to catch up more consistently on Voxer!
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Yes it plays a large role. Lead by example and make it clear it is ok to take risks and fail, then try again
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A3 Being open to new possibilities. Allowing/trusting t's to do what they are good at. Promote innovation and celebrate success
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A3 yes, it plays a role, culture takes time, energy, perseverance
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Q3: becoming an active role in the community and creating a sense of family. As educators, including all populations is essential
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A3:Culture is the driver of each school. If culture is innovative, new ideas can flourish, if toxic, ideas can't flourish
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How does one do that when Ts may be fearful of observation scores?
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A3. My own innovation has been sparked by having leaders that believe in me. The culture is trust and it's imperative.
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A3: leadership must demonstrate the change needed-open dialogue and collaborative goal setting to address biases
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A3 have to remove fear and replace with culture of failure=growth. Have to communicate many times to all involved.
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A3-innovation exists in a culture of risk-taking, leaders must empower T to get outside the lines for S growth and development
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Does having a negative culture push others to try harder to transform and become more innovative?
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A3B: Leaders must allow risk taking, and praise Ts and Ss when risks pay off. Provide encouragement when it doesn't work
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It's important to evaluate the current school culture to know where to begin and collaborate to move forward!
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A3: Creating a positive and student centered culture starts with establishing trust & treating all students with dignity & respect.
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Takes time, knowledge of rubric, consistent conversation https://t.co/DgCCurua7n
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How does one do that when Ts may be fearful of observation scores?
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ALL Populations are a must!
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Would be noted in observation that risk was taken and how t adjusted on spot.
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A3: by modeling. I think climate and culture do play a part, & you need to be willing to get others involved by showing enthusiasm
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A3: encouraging risk by Ts, promoting their successes breads more buy in from others. It keeps going & going.
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who cares about eval scores, it's about student growth!
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BOOM! Drops the mic! Student growth, resilience, self confidence in learning https://t.co/TcF93OoEd5
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who cares about eval scores, it's about student growth!
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I wish everyone thought that way. That is the type of culture that needs change the most
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without admin support, I feel like T would just float on islands. Schools need a culture and direction
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we damage the culture & stifle student growth by forcing assessments beyond their ability instead of looking for growth
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Love this topic! Checking in for a bit. Passion should drive teaching; not evaluations
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It goes both ways. Transparency is key to encouraging others to get off their islands. https://t.co/19syi2i1dx
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without admin support, I feel like T would just float on islands. Schools need a culture and direction
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A3: You have to model the culture and make learning visible.
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Persistance, dedication and drive- It can happen! Just needs people to take the lead.
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Transparency is key, but so is willingness to be open, in a real sense, not trivial
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When you teach best practices, test scores are higher. If you're an innovative risk taker, evaluations are likely to benefit too!
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And student growth comes in so many forms. I love seeing teachers that can inspire challenging students to show up to school.
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Has to be about a shared vision from students 2 board 2 parents and through teachers.
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, I totally agree!! Educators who take risks are opening the door for greater gains!!
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Teamwork makes the dream work!
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Q4: If you could change one thing in your school, what would it be? Why haven’t you done it yet?
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It all comes down to relationships.
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agreed, we as leaders need to engage all stakeholders in the process
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Ts must feel safe enough to take risks & think holistically-not my class...my school, my community
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A4:Having a fabrication lab, our High School has one and it would give our Ss more practical STEAM opportunities
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A4: If I could change anything about my school, I would change the idea that alternative students cannot be successful.
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A4: Parent engagement and involvement. We are in the process of beginning new events/committees to bring more parents in.Need buy-in
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A4 the notion/action that a hs kid belongs to 'me' instead of all of us. Needs to be more holistic in classes and extracurriculars.
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A4: I would like to increase my teachers' access to high quality PD. I'm only 5 weeks in but it's already happening!
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A4: I'd look into alternative ways for students 2 progress through courses/programs -- something besides their age.
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A4: I would like to see all staff embrace the fact that learning happens everywhere in the school...not just during a lesson
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A4- Building teacher relationships with each other. Creating a sharing environment and team work with create powerful teachers
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Whats holding u back?I started a makerspace in the hallway last year, that exploded into Digital Shop and
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A4: Fortunate to work with a great staff! We need to ensure the success of EVERY student-Raise Expectations
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Take charge of the “Attitude Gap” in your school. Be the spark that changes it!
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A4: Alternative students need to have teachers who believe in them , which increases student efficacy! Every Kid needs a Champion!
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Something personalized that inspires them to take charge.
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A4- S sense of ability and potential....I need to make connections that are stronger with S and parents and community
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Every teacher needs a mentor to teach him/her the value of his/her influence https://t.co/MotwDoWqF4
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A4: Alternative students need to have teachers who believe in them , which increases student efficacy! Every Kid needs a Champion!
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And ts that understand what alternative means, learning, pedagogy, structure, style https://t.co/bo31aZ5S8B
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A4: Alternative students need to have teachers who believe in them , which increases student efficacy! Every Kid needs a Champion!
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, Yes!!! Structure and Routine is Key when working with alternative students!!
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A4: As I leave my current school I regret not doing more to remove politics from the equation - it is about kids, not winning.
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A4: Being able to look at traditional school reasons&ask why.Is it working? Why not something else?Be a leader instead of following
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- differentiated learning creates avenue for successful learning and increases confidence to try new things
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Sounds like my last blog post- Ego, Jealousy, and Fear.
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A4: Empower Ts & Ss. Revamp PBIS implementation. Become systematic w/ structures/processes. Working on these things. Cultural shifts
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Question 5 in one minute!!!
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Nice! Did you have the students do it for the staff too in regards to them?
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Q5: Share positive strategies to assist others when you heard the word “NO” when you presented an idea to a superior.
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Weird...great minds think alike
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Working with students with special needs I always try to support an idea with data
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A4:would love to get more student input/discussion about "hot topics" facing our school/our Ss/teens in general.Time is only reason
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A5 make it so no isn't any option b4 pitching idea. Get key players on board and lay the vision of success
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A5:You need to show how this will benefit the Ts and Ss. If you have enough data to show the benefit it hard to keep saying no
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A5: I was persistent in showing why - it wasn't about me, it was for my students. My job is to advocate for them!
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A5: "Let's take a step back and look at what's best for the student(s)?"
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A5 Persistence. Don't give up. Took a long time sometimes to get my admin to allow me to be creative.
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A5: Always ask why. Go back, retool around the "why no," and represent. Hard to reject when you have a clear reason and no barriers.
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A2: "No" could deal with timing of the idea. When you hear No, it does not mean it is a dead end just simply a yield sign!
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A5 my mom asked me if I want my PB&J w crusts or wo. No wasn't any option. I had choice.
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A5: Stay determined. Keep your head up. Revamp idea based on feedback. Do not take offense.
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Don't give up. Use another angle and include the superior.
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A5: ask if there are other options? If not, ask if it can be considered at a later time.. NO= Next Opportunity
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, I totally Agree!! Determination is the Key to success! Stay the Course!!
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A5: When you have a passion combined with research and reason, "no" is rarely a road block!
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A5 also no is an acceptable if infuriating answer. Lots of ways to help school improve. Take no in stride, learn from it & do more.
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A5: Be willing to accept critics and be willing to find angles to move your ideas forward. If you believe in it, show your passion.
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A5-keep the focus on kids, be persistent and find a way to do what's needed to help kids
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... absolutely... stay the course..(GRIT) Give it your all-Redo if necessary-Ignore giving up & Take time to do it right
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A5: It's a perfect time to show some grit. When I've got a great idea I won't let it die. You shouldn't either.
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.. anyone interested in the personal and professional growth of the mentee could mentor...doesn't have to be a teacher
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As a leader, I never say no without discussing the idea. Simply saying no does not respect the professional on the other side.
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Persist with patience, passion, and poise https://t.co/rSWGJ8od3K
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A5: Stay determined. Keep your head up. Revamp idea based on feedback. Do not take offense.
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--absolutely do not take offense..it is a dream killer
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Last question of the night Q6, coming up in one minute!
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A5: Having Grit is paramount to success!! Guts, Resilience, Initiative and Tenacity!!
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Q6: Share your favorite innovative quotes, apps, books, resources, and/or educators that push you to strive for something different
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"Innovation is the intersection of fear and bravery." said this at ISTE several years ago and it still rings true.
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A6: mostly I like dropping in on various when I have time. Great ideas to motivate me to be better ex)
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A6: The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step!
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HIGHLY recommend book - The Innovator's Mindset & book - "Pure Genius"
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A6-follow Glenn, he is doing amazing things for kids
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Denise Pope "creating positive change with students in mind" Mindfulness learning too
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Wishing everyone an amazing !
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A6: if it's important to you, you will find a way. If not, you'll find an excuse.
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A6: See and be seen, by everyone, everyday.
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A6: Connecting with a great PLN on Twitter
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Two roads diverged in the woods, and I-I took the 1 less traveled by, and that has made all the difference. Robert Frost
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A6: "If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door."-Milton Berle ( Dr. Rita Pierson- "Every Child Deserves a Champion" Youtube)
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I have a H2o game in my office,kids fiddle w/it as we talk.Calms most down quickly.They like trying to win! https://t.co/QzUd4AKmBq
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A6: Gonzo journalism brought me perspective when approaching teaching; a little unorthodox, sorta weird but impactful.
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A6: joining chat groups inspires me! book Innovators Mindset is wonderful! Most of all growing my PLN!! I learn from them!
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A6: A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for.
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Thank you , and everyone else for a chat! I hope to see you at in a few days!
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A6: Mindset by Carol Dweck, the Derek Sivers how to start a movement youtube video
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First group chat. Loved the great advice from fellow educators. Thanks!
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Want to learn more on innovative leadership & learning cultures? Join my session at Ignite on Friday right after lunch.
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Shoutout to for moderating tonight. You are a rockstar!
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Looking forward to the next ! Great dialogue!
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Thanks-How's the weather?
