#Kinderchat Archive
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Monday April 25, 2016
Come out, come out, wherever you are, it's time! Say hello, where you are, and the first book you read ALL BY YOURSELF.
Amy here, moderating from MY VERY OWN FIRST HOUSE THAT I OWN.
Hi ! I am Michelle from BC, Canada and I believe my first ever read by myself book was The Cat In the Hat.
Also, the first real book I read all by myself was Charlotte's Web.
Kathleen from Edmonton! Can't remember the FIRST book, but I fiercely read Babysitters Little Sister books with .
Rebecca from Ontario. Great question but I can't remember what the first book I read all by myself was.
My name is Sarah Shamburger. I'm in Cedarville, Oh and the first book I ever read by myself was Jessica by Kevin Henkes
Excited for ! I'm a college student from . First book I read, no idea. But my favorite: Where the Wild Things Are :)
Helloooo friends!!! Kelsey here- from Tampa, FL! I can't remember 😳 but reading chicka chicka boom boom was a favorite!
Hi my name is Sam, I am in Cedarville, Ohio and the first book I ever read was Amelia Bedelia.
What?!? You skipped the easy books and went to chapter books???
I LOVE me some Kevin Henkes. Lily's Purple Plastic Purse gets me through MANY days!
how exciting!!!! Congrats!
I read Charlotte's Web the grade I was mega into Babysitters Little Sister, so that would be a close 2nd.
He was my absolute favorite when I was younger!!
Pretty much. Straight from Peter & Jane readers to Charlotte & Ramona.
Hey my name is Sarah & im a Early Childhood & Special Ed major!
I'm Katelyn Kime from CU & the first book I remember reading is " Butterfly Kisses" with my daddy!
Hi Subbed today at my school. Feels like I'm home! Off to hear at my school. Hope to join chats soon.
my mom and I would read all those books! Cracked me up!
Me too, still one of my all time favorites!!
also the first book that I remember reading was Bread and Jam for Francis
Hello I'm from Cedarville University! My first book I remember reading was Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss
Also, Paul et Suzanne was probably the FIRST FIRST book we ever "read" by ourselves. 😉
I was of the Luc et Martine generation, immediately preceding Paul et Suzanne. (WHO I STILL READ, BTW).
Hola Rachael! How are you?
definitely can’t remember the first book I read by myself but remember reading so many others “I Can Do It By Myself” is one.
Had all those hard cover, easy readers. Also "Are You My Mother?" I read to the Ks last week
Hi Michelle. I’m well. :)
First live chat from the best possible place, 😍😍😍😍😍
Hi Kinderkfoley checking in :)
you're making me hungry. 😑
Hey I was watching the game, but the Blues are giving me the blues…
Hello from patty in Virginia
Is there talk of a nasty hurricane season coming because of La Niña? We are on a cruise in August.
Hi ! Liane from Abbotsford BC Canada here. I didn't do the homework. Can I still hang out? I'll move my clip to green......
I pray not. We definitely cannot manage any. Which islands are you stopping in?
A1: I found it really interesting the correlation b/t the inconsistencies & the consonant portion of syllables.
So glad you're here! You always share so much! 😊
I see what you did there! Haha
A1: Auditory processing is a big deal when it comes to reading instruction.
Grand Caymen, Roatan, Costa Maya and Cozumel. Hoping for calm seas.
But I wish the Blackhawks would do something instead
I never knew how strong the correlation was either!
A1 Auditory processing is closely linked to reading achievement. Not surprising.
When kids with normal hearing experience rdg difficulty, aud processing plays a role; but it's more than that
A1: I'm sorry but I didn't read it. WIll skim it now...
I am cold Michelle! Cold! It is cold in the Maritimes, and that is wrong.
A1: Auditory process is a diagnosis, must be done systemically & scientifically, & can be missed by regular reading intervention
Sending you warmth from the West Coast!
Hello I didn't do my homework either and i am eating ice cream and drinking cherry Dr. Pepper - it was one of those days
A1: Reading is often considered a visual skill, but SOUND really matters!
If the Hawks lose, it’s baseball 24/7 for me!
I found it very cool that the the correlation is that strong! This is helpful as I go into special education
A1) listening and oral skills are linked to reading. Kids need to hear lots of stories and be given lots of time to talk.
A1: When thinking about reading, sight is what is usually focused on, but auditory is just as if not more important
I think speech issues are intertwined, too. If you can't hear or say it properly, how can you read it?
A1: I found this very interesting and helpful since I am majoring in Special Ed
congratulations on your house, imagine if all the crew showed up, that would be a HOUSEWARMING
A1: Favorite Part: the relationship btwn reading ability and auditory processing skills is “a highly significant relationship.”
They’re all related, aren’t they? https://t.co/psvzeIbNyl
I think speech issues are intertwined, too. If you can't hear or say it properly, how can you read it?
yes this is a very good point!
A1: I never thought abt the relationship between hearing pronunciation & a childs reading skills.
I wondered about that, too - the self-reinforcement of incorrect sounds... hearing them wrong, saying them wrong...
Now that would be a PARTY!
Hey is underway now :) FYI :)
A1) Parents of babies and toddlers - the more you talk to your kids, the more ready they'll be for school.
Yes, and all needs a strong oral lang foundation! Read, talk, sing to your baby/toddler/child!
will visualize calm seas with you
I think we had the same day!
the kids won't be able to read it if they can't sound it out
A1: I find this interesting, especially with my many ELL students. Many are not fluent speakers in their first language (1/2)
I have two cases of such an issue in my class this year. Speech issues make things so hard for little ones.
Q2: Were you already familiar with this research? Did anything surprise you?
A1: and they need a LOT of oral language and experiences with English to get the sounds and flow of the written word.
When parents ask what to do to prepare them for school I say: Read to them. Talk to them. Sing to them.
so sweet! thanks for filling my bucket!
SO true! You can see their frustration with it too!
A1) great reminder of the importance and power of books on tape. Listen and read along!
A1: It’s why phonological awareness, and assessing that is so important in kindergarten. It sets the stage
A1: read article and said, Yes, Yes, YES! I see it so often
A2 Interesting to know the children had trouble with consonants more often than vowels!
Good, succinct article- reading/auditory connection: see it daily when 'doing' reading intervention. Donald- teacher/principal
A2: Not familiar with the research but it makes senseI see many more Ss coming into K with speech difficulties than 10 years ago
It also precipitates out in their writing. Sound is a big part of language (hearing &speaking)
A2: Can’t say I was “familiar” with the research. I can say it didn’t surprise me at all!
I wonder though if phonological assessment is needed or oral language assessment......
A2: It didn't surprise me as much as it made me think that reading out loud to students is as important as silent reading
A2 I was not familiar with this research, but it comes as no surprise. Just validates what I see in class.
Found interesting that they have more trouble with constants than vowel. I often see more confusion with vowels i/e o/u
THIS!!! https://t.co/IwbSxnXhI4
When parents ask what to do to prepare them for school I say: Read to them. Talk to them. Sing to them.
1st book- one w 2 calves who get into a house. Yes, a farm kid. Wish I could identify it. Also Dan Frontier books. Yes, I'm old.
A2: not familiar with the research but looking back it makes sense that listening & reading go hand and hand
Important not to overstate - the article did not prescribe specific interventions.
Hi Michelle! Sounds like you had a "day"?
I thought the same thing. Vowels always seem harder, so it surprised me that they had more trouble with consonants
I had quite a day...spring fever is in full force in my room. Listening skills are non-existent.
We have a phonological assessment we do up to 3X per year. Tells us a lot about their reading and writing.
That's fantastic that you had books you were interested in!
I had the exact same thought. Shouldn't they both be assessed?
Or phonological assessment under the oral language umbrella, I guess is what I meant.
It's always tricky helping kids find books that "hook" them.
But, how many kids get spoken with, rather than to? Even @ school- most of our talking is at kids not with.
Auditory processing more complex than either/both of these, though, I think...
Ah. That’s what ours is, under the oral language umbrella. Anything “deeper” is handled by the SLP.
And in a 100% immersion language program where they don't understand fully, I struggle with this!
Great point, I was thinking the same thing myself. Engaging the kids in conversations is important!!
True. I don't know as much as I probably should about Auditory Processing.
Agreed! Then keeping these aud/phono pieces in a meaningful, literate context!
I know our FI teachers struggle with it as well
Q3: How can we support auditory processing skills in our classrooms? What activities can we/should we do more/less of?
Yes, I can imagine that would be tricky!
A3: One thing is to provide lots of visuals along with instructions. Daily visual schedule too
When kids in May of Gr 1 can't process the difference btwn d , t, and s...you are going to have problems.
A3 Nursery rhymes, repetitive, patterned interesting texts from real books, singing, playing with sounds
A3: I like to make purposeful mistakes when speaking, like changing the first letter of everyone's name to the same letter.
A3: I don't "correct" but model.
I think providing more visuals with the auditory cues as well will help students. Being able to see helps!
A3: I think that poems and nursery rhymes are always good. There are also fun songs out there that are very helpful and good
Yes. Model everything. RT : A3: I don't "correct" but model.
We do a tonne of listen and visualize on a whiteboard. It might be to music, a poem, a chapter book or a record player story
A3: visuals, modeling, and consistency!
Repetition always helps too!
whoops! That was A3. I think repetition is another important aspect!
Sorry . I'm in a scrappy mood tonight. Should probably not play with others right now. Talk to you another week.
A3: It may seem impossible in a Kinder classroom but reducing background noise is important
love the whiteboard idea. Getting students engaged will help too!
I have gr 3 student reading mid gr1, has hearing & speech difficulties, struggles with trying to write using sounds
visual cues is the biggest helper for the kiddos who struggle with speech. It is beneficial to see and hear.
A3: have time for both u & students to read aloud to the class. focus on words & sounds that give trouble!
took my kids a lot of practice to be able to visualize
It's important for kids to see the connections between what we read and what we say
i agree that you have to stay consistent with the troublesome words & sounds
I'm just thinking about keeping sounds/letters/words in context and not isolated from meaning
Also like to add that "sounding out" is often over rated
yes that is so important!!
what do you suggest instead of sounding out?
Also impt to remember that auditory processing starts LONG BEFORE formal reading.
Q4: What implications do these findings carry for the classroom environment? Noise level?
right! I love the idea of using whiteboards. They can be helpful to students in so many ways!
A3) listen / read music with lyrics, read and re-read poems, nursery rhymes and familiar text.
Rdg/comprehension uses meaning/semantic, syntax, and visual cues. English is not always predictable
Someone suggested we use "say it slower" rather than sound it out. Works with some kids, it appears. https://t.co/9HaPPl0S02
what do you suggest instead of sounding out?
I think choral speech & recitation (considered old-fashioned) have a role in pre-lit skills.
i like the idea of using music! helps all different types of learners stay focused and involved
A4 Some noise is necessary. It's finding the "sweet spot" for learning that's the thing. Tricky when kids YELL ALL THE TIME!
those are great ideas! I will definitely implement them in my future classroom
A4: I have 3 EAL learners and 1 S w/auditory processing issues. All need quieter atmosphere. It’s hard but it does help
anyone else say, "am I doing enough?" or just me? I followed the link to behavioral intervention to see what was recommended
I have a “YELLY” class this year. It’s even hard on my head!
I know those kids...in my math 5 class.
Sorry to use all the jargon, but strong, capable readers rarely use sounding out as first strategy
My class is becoming more YELLY as the year goes on. It's exhausting. Everything is LOUD!
Some classes are just like that. *sigh*
Noise level is tricky with the little ones. Some noise is necesary. Eliminating background noise helps.
Having kids learn songs/poems"by heart" before they can read - seems like would support auditory development?
You know it’s loud when your doing a small group and have to yell yourself.
That is what ‘they’ say. It’s that repetition, and the putting speech to print
A4: Ss need it quiet enough to hear. When I cant hear them at the reading table, they cant hear me.
This made me wonder about ambient noise - hallways, heat/AC, electronics, lights... how that "muffles" sounds for kids.
Agreed! And it really helps with fluency and expression. These are often tricky for beginning readers
I've come to terms with the fact that it's just as important for my 26 students to be loud, happy, and playing. Childhood.
I think that parents reading to kids and singing songs to them really helps their auditory development
. You're not gonna learn twinkle twinkle little star by colouring a star you made out of Popsicle sticks!
But give the teacher a ukulele and they all sing along ;-)
It is a very tricky balance trying to provide an environment for all children to feel successful.
Have music playing on iPod all day.Sometimes we can't hear the music and they adjust. But not all the time
this is a big part of it. Kids are always getting distracted & by stuff like this How do we get around it?
Definitely, and makes them feel successful too https://t.co/Ki0Fe4YdB5
Having kids learn songs/poems"by heart" before they can read - seems like would support auditory development?
Agreed. I run a half day program, so it's kind of like a prioritize and pick your battles type situation.
A4 active learning noise is good while the meaningless chatter is usually what gets too loud & hard to control
I think there is a place for quiet... we need to help kids find their way to it.
Absolutely. And that is REALLY HARD for some little ones.
Last 10 min! Share one way you support auditory development in your classroom.
true. Kids need to have quiet sometimes too, they can't always be chatty. Some do better in quiet places.
Lots of singing and poetry and reading of books that play with language and sound
In my class we have lots of visuals, lots of repetition, lots of singing, lots of stories.
nailed it, there's a difference between NOISE and engagement in learning
. Although I sound horrid...I try and make a song out of everything, & use GLAD strategies that help
Good night I heard I have 8 more Monday’s left of school today!
I love books that play with language and sound
Still in college, but I would use lots of visuals & put things to a tune. Students respond well to songs!
My prev. school did poem every month for kids to learn & recite. Seemed old-fashioned, but more & more I see the value.
Bill Martin Jr! Eric Carle! Kevin Henkes!
Time to wrap up, friends. Tks for great chat & reflective convo!
Thanks for moderating, Amy! Enjoy your new HOME!!
Have a great week and play with sounds
Aaaaah, thank you! And it is always rolled out for you, friend!
thank you for being so welcoming to a college student! learned lots from being able to participate!
Bummed to have missed tonight but tweeting and driving is not smart. Until next week!
Thanks, lady! Hope the chat helped improve your day!
It sure did! I am always grateful for my people.
