#IOLchat Archive
#IOLchat meets Wednesdays at 12PM ET to discuss trends and issues in online education.
Wednesday January 27, 2016
12:00 PM EST
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:00 PM EST
Welcome to this week's
#IOLchat
. :) Who's joining in today? ...
eInternDavid
Jan 27 @ 12:01 PM EST
David Gaines, Director of Recruitment at
#eIntern
(rookie so just may be lurking today)
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allchats
Jan 27 @ 12:01 PM EST
twitter chats happening NOW, 12pm EST: -
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start talkin'!
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:01 PM EST
#authenticity
I think I know what you mean
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:01 PM EST
#iolchat
hello! Jennifer from ATL grad student and IOLchat regular ☕️
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:02 PM EST
@eInternDavid
Hello David! Glad to know you are following along today. :)
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:02 PM EST
@jshamsy
Hi Jennifer! Thanks for bringing the coffee. ;)
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:02 PM EST
@clowningar
Hi Michael! Great to see you again. :)
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:03 PM EST
Welcome to
#IOLchat
@LoriDuke
! Great to have you here. :)
https://t.co/zc7lZV6hlH
LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:01 PM EST
@IOLblog
Hi! Lori here, an IDer from Newfoundland. First timer :)
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:05 PM EST
when working w/ young Ss, they know when you are there 4 them, or because of $ or job?
#authenticity
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:05 PM EST
I'm
@Melissa_Venable
, IOL blogger and an online instructor. Nice to see you all today! Our questions will begin shortly ...
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:06 PM EST
@clowningar
Interesting and relevant question ... let's begin with some definitions ...
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:07 PM EST
Q1) What does authenticity mean to you in the context of online teaching and learning?
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ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:07 PM EST
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Hello, Andrew Walsh from JWU College of Online Education, Instructional Technologist.
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:08 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
Hi Andrew! Great to have you back. :)
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:08 PM EST
@IOLblog
#IOLchat
A1) Instructors being 'present', caring for students, and letting their personality shine thru!
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:09 PM EST
A1
#authenticity
4 me is about giving a vibrant learning experience as if your are there, walked the same path?
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ShiftParadigm
Jan 27 @ 12:10 PM EST
READ why your use of time matters -> And The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth
https://t.co/b2f6pg15je
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:10 PM EST
@clowningar
I think your description of Ss "knowing you are there for them" is definitely part of authenticity
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ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:10 PM EST
@IOLblog
A1) Authenticity means that assignments align with real-world applications. Why am I learning this?
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eInternDavid
Jan 27 @ 12:10 PM EST
A1)
#authenticity
from Ss viewpoint could be that their ultimate goals and Ts goals are aligned and in sync.
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:12 PM EST
Welcome to
#IOLchat
Holly! "Being true to yourself" :)
https://t.co/qIhsvxzELY
hysmor
Jan 27 @ 12:09 PM EST
@IOLblog
To me it means being true to yourself so students can see the real you
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:12 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
@IOLblog
LIke that! relevant study to life/career. focusing on Creative spaces 4 engagement
https://t.co/uBCCOMULKt
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:13 PM EST
@hysmor
Hi Holly! Put
#IOLchat
in every message so it shows in the feed. I just made that mistake myself :)
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:13 PM EST
+1 RT
@eInternDavid
A1)
#authenticity
from Ss viewpoint could be that their ultimate goals and Ts goals are aligned and in sync.
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ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:13 PM EST
@IOLblog
@clowningar
I agree. Students want to know that you are invested in their education, just not there cause they have to
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:14 PM EST
@clowningar
@ajwalshiv
Thanks for addressing authentic learning here. It all ties in I think - authentic teaching and learning
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:15 PM EST
Ts, working in cubicles w/massive Ss workload, may make
#authenticity
difficult
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any practical solutions?
hysmor
Jan 27 @ 12:15 PM EST
I like the idea of assessment tied to real life as authenticity
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:16 PM EST
@clowningar
I like this as a great Q2!
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:16 PM EST
Howdy, I am
@KristyPBL
. Associate Extension Professor with the 4-H Youth Development program at the University of Maine.
#iolchat
#umfedu568
ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:17 PM EST
@clowningar
Great question! Not sure if I have an answer, but I think it's a Q that's worth exploring a bit deeper.
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:17 PM EST
Q2) Teaching online may make
#authenticity
difficult
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any practical solutions? ht
@clowningar
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:17 PM EST
@KristyPBL
Hello and welcome to
#iolchat
, Kristy!
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
Q2 cont.) What can instructors do to be more authentic with their students in an online course?
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
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a1) being yourself ... Not trying to be a celebrity or super hard teacher - mimicking real world expectations
jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
#iolchat
a1) agree with
@lorilduke
... Being present is really important....
jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
@IOLblog
great point.. Taking an ID class right now and this is emphasized multiple times!
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eInternDavid
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
A2) Always ask Ss what their expectations are instead of telling them what to expect. Helps align goals & improv when needed.
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
A2 today have 25k Ss, so am working on getting Ss into meetups and G+ HOA 4 Ss to Ss socratic learning
https://t.co/I0N4hWTlE7
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ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:19 PM EST
@IOLblog
@clowningar
A2) I think developing course content and applications that are relevant to Ss will help.
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:20 PM EST
A2)
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try to connect w individual Ss in discussion forums. Just a few words let them know Ts are listening and care.
ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:20 PM EST
@IOLblog
Instructors can make webcam videos on lectures, announcements, etc. Widely reaches students this way
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM EST
@jshamsy
I like this a lot - we can as teachers let Ss know when they've shared something new to us, for example. We all learn!
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM EST
@clowningar
baby steps - personalize where you can and try to do one new thing each semester
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:21 PM EST
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a2) Intro video, audio feedback, webinars, virtual office hours - est. real connection
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM EST
@eInternDavid
Really like this approach, David! Nice idea to tie this into early class discussions - there's usually some flex.
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM EST
@eInternDavid
love this!!!! That could be great first activity in course
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hysmor
Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM EST
#IOLchat
Being available and showing that you care are tops in my book. & finding relevant assessments
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM EST
+1 RT
@LoriLDuke
A2)
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try to connect w individual Ss in discussion forums. Just a few words let them know Ts are listening and care.
KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:23 PM EST
A2) I have been using zoom as a way to video chat with students, it allows for a unique "group" feel.
#IOLchat
#umfedu568
jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:23 PM EST
@hysmor
yes.. Not sure that we Can really limit to bankers hours - Ss are on at all times more availability from Ts
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM EST
@IOLblog
Q2cont) Being yourself and being present in the discussion. Limit those desires to multitask :)
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#umfedu568
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
@jshamsy
Perfect - concrete activities and actions we can all take. Video has an impact.
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ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM EST
@KristyPBL
We use that here as well and encourage instructors to do the same. Many find this helps alot!
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM EST
@KristyPBL
A course I'm taking online is using Zoom this semester. Really like it from a student perspective!
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:24 PM EST
RT
@KristyPBL
A2) I have been using zoom as a way to video chat with students, it allows for a unique "group" feel.
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#umfedu568
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:25 PM EST
I started a Vlog to help Ss understand connection to community creative spaces
https://t.co/3AxJ7SJu0c
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hysmor
Jan 27 @ 12:25 PM EST
@jshamsy
#IOLchat
I usually check on evenings and weekends. I want them to know I'm there. Not everyone does though!!
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:25 PM EST
@KristyPBL
@ajwalshiv
@LoriLDuke
Just found out about Zoom recently, in career counseling context. Looks like a useful tool.
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM EST
@IOLblog
@KristyPBL
@ajwalshiv
And free!
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM EST
@KristyPBL
@ajwalshiv
@LoriLDuke
Why do you like Zoom over other similar tools? Curious ... so many to choose from now.
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:26 PM EST
@hysmor
that's why I like being a student & instructor - see what others are doing and how I react/feel about it
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ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM EST
@IOLblog
@KristyPBL
@LoriLDuke
It gives the ability to record a session as well to be posted later on for sharing, references, etc.
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:27 PM EST
@IOLblog
@ajwalshiv
@LoriLDuke
Zoom is more intuitive to use. and the video quality is more dependable that ghangouts or skype
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:28 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
@IOLblog
@LoriLDuke
I love the recording options
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#umfedu568
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:28 PM EST
public speaking course have Ss go to toastmasters and then fill out ?'s form aft speaking
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#creativespaces
jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:28 PM EST
@eInternDavid
@hysmor
yes... Agreed! Lots of learning could occur there!
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:29 PM EST
Fantastic Zoom recommendations! I need to try this one out.
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:32 PM EST
Agreed
@jshamsy
@hysmor
@eInternDavid
First-hand experience w/online learning gives online instructors an advantage.
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:32 PM EST
Q3) Has your approach being your authentic self online changed over time?
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:33 PM EST
@IOLblog
@jshamsy
@hysmor
@eInternDavid
#IOLchat
I think all online Ts should experience being an online student. Def an eye-opener!
jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:34 PM EST
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a3) yes always in a state of flux and each group is different - need to understand Ss- learner analysis-what they need
ajwalshiv
Jan 27 @ 12:35 PM EST
@IOLblog
I think teachers adapt and change their teaching personalities over time naturally. Much like people change over time
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:35 PM EST
I'm trying to make experiential learning by getting Ss out into community engagement
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even better than in a classroom
LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:36 PM EST
@IOLblog
A3)
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It's much easier now to connect w Ss with online tools. Synchronous comm seems to be more common in online courses
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:36 PM EST
@jshamsy
I have experienced that class-to-class, semester-to-semester. Some groups like more social interaction that others, true.
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hysmor
Jan 27 @ 12:36 PM EST
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I've learned to be more present, look for better relevant assessments, listen to Ss about what they would like to see in course
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:37 PM EST
@jshamsy
Also gets back to
@eInternDavid
's note about expectations. ;)
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:38 PM EST
@IOLblog
yes like others mention natural progression and matching tools/approaches to needs
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:38 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
You're right - the tools, features, functions, etc. allow us to do more within a course site, communication-wise :)
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eInternDavid
Jan 27 @ 12:39 PM EST
As long as we remember that these are tools, features, functions, etc. The real learning comes from the Ts.
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:39 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
@IOLblog
yes... So many more tools than even 10 years ago
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:39 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
@IOLblog
surprisingly I find Ss aren't that eager to actually use them very often :-(
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:40 PM EST
@IOLblog
a3) I think this is the key to staying current and relevant.
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#umfedu568
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:40 PM EST
A3 authentic Ss curriculum around
#makerspace
projects
#IOLchat
they have
#PBL
&
#socratic
#learning
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:40 PM EST
Q3) follow-up: Do you worry about personal privacy when developing presence in online courses? Have you gotten more/less private?
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eInternDavid
Jan 27 @ 12:40 PM EST
Ts can't *rely on* these new tools. We have to learn how to maximize and integrate them to help teach better.
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:41 PM EST
@jshamsy
@IOLblog
#IOLchat
Same as in-class! :)
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:41 PM EST
@jshamsy
Interesting! We have touched on this re:social media - sometimes introducing a new thing is a struggle. :/
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:42 PM EST
Authentic strategies! RT
@clowningar
A3 authentic Ss curriculum around
#makerspace
projects
#IOLchat
they have
#PBL
#socratic
#learning
KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:42 PM EST
@IOLblog
Q3) I have a seperate account for educational purposes. I am careful of what is shared with ss.
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#umfedu568
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:43 PM EST
A3 each Ss should have a online privacy course so they know when they are exposed ie FB, Instagram I think most R clueless
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:43 PM EST
@IOLblog
good question.. I tend to implement polices/new procedures after I get bitten.. try to be conscious of my online info
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:43 PM EST
@KristyPBL
@IOLblog
Agreed. Keeping personal separate is a good idea imo.
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:44 PM EST
@KristyPBL
@IOLblog
I don't give phone # or use personal email account
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:45 PM EST
@KristyPBL
I think this is fairly common. Helps to keep things organized if there's any concern.
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:45 PM EST
@eInternDavid
@KristyPBL
@IOLblog
I try not to mix business and personal :-)
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:46 PM EST
@eInternDavid
Great reminder - they are just tools. It's how we use them (or don't use them) that makes the difference.
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:46 PM EST
A3 in our LMS we have no chat or community room feature, only exposure in Skype, G+ HOA etc
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:46 PM EST
@clowningar
the lines are becoming more blurred everyday - you have to manage your social presence - a new skill
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:48 PM EST
@jshamsy
@eInternDavid
@KristyPBL
@IOLblog
MIT prof got into trouble w/ sexting.
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Ts in classroom envir doing wrong behavior
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:48 PM EST
@clowningar
Was this a decision related to function? cost or privacy? Sounds like you are making the most of all that's available.
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:49 PM EST
@clowningar
@jshamsy
@eInternDavid
@KristyPBL
@IOLblog
#IOLchat
Online Ts def have to model good online presence for the Ss.
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:49 PM EST
@IOLblogallows
more capacity, we like to tie Ss with mobile edu. ie biology @ the tidepool, French while on vacation in France or ?
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:50 PM EST
@clowningar
That makes sense. :)
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:51 PM EST
Q4) Are there expectations/guidelines from your school or program related to authentic online presence in your classes?
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:52 PM EST
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a4) rarely.. Other than presence guidelines - respond within x time - don't help formulate skills for good mgmt/presence
LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:53 PM EST
@jshamsy
Same at my institution
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:53 PM EST
I'm the Dev'r so I like to have courses reflect the real world, and be honest about it
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:53 PM EST
@IOLblog
There are certainly best practice guidelines with the 4-H program. Nothing specific to authenticity
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#umfedu568
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:54 PM EST
@jshamsy
@LoriLDuke
Me, too .. mostly guidance related to responding to email, discussions, and posting an introduction.
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:55 PM EST
@KristyPBL
Our orgs seem to be covering the basics. :) Which is good, but there's more!
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:55 PM EST
@IOLblog
@LoriLDuke
usually some about the what but little about the how
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clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:56 PM EST
C. Christensen HBS prof believes
#MOOC
is the future of Ed. today online is early model of what the future will be
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IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:56 PM EST
Time for our last Q! 5) Do you have any role models for authentic online presence? Who is doing it well?
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:57 PM EST
#iolchat
lots of Twitter people including you
@Melissa_Venable
:-) you strike a good balance!
clowningar
Jan 27 @ 12:57 PM EST
A5 I think we will have some role models in the future, but online 2 new to say?
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KristyPBL
Jan 27 @ 12:58 PM EST
@IOLblog
Q5) I am interested in hearing the answers to this
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#umfedu568
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:58 PM EST
@jshamsy
You are tooooo kind, Jennifer! 8-)
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LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:59 PM EST
@IOLblog
#IOLchat
https://t.co/I9Lob0Pon1
LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:57 PM EST
@IOLblog
One of our online Ts has an online 'party' at semester end, mails Ss tea and snacks in advance!
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:59 PM EST
@clowningar
I think you are right! Time will tell. :)
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jshamsy
Jan 27 @ 12:59 PM EST
#iolchat
I think you have to pick you "message" and then align communications w/that - keeps it focused
IOLblog
Jan 27 @ 12:59 PM EST
#IOLchat
This is great idea! Online teaching presence outreach. :)
https://t.co/jhqG3OPsbV
LoriLDuke
Jan 27 @ 12:57 PM EST
@IOLblog
One of our online Ts has an online 'party' at semester end, mails Ss tea and snacks in advance!