#caedchat Archive
#caedchat is for California educators, by California educators. All are welcome as moderators and participants discuss issues that emerge in California education, which are generally applicable to other regions of the United States.
Sunday September 11, 2016
Q0: Please take a moment to introduce yourself. Where are you from? What grade(s) do you teach?
A0: Diane Main, Director of Learning, Innovation & Design at The Harker School in San Jose. I teach gr. 10-12 CompSci.
Karl joining from Langely, BC
Lee Howell, Salinas, CA. Program manager for math and ed tech grant. Hi all!
How are you and my edtech daughter-in-law doing? ;0)
A0:Hi all! Amanda, K5 math/tech TOSA in Campbell
you go sit in the corner... Then join after your 90 second time out.
Hey Cali friends! Rafranz here, who was often instructed to change my name but didn't!
Hey Amanda! Glad to see you here, Visalia is better having had you show them some knowledge
Leila here Deputy Sup Ed services Escondido Ca
A0 Dan Bennett, EdTech Tosa at Los Alamitos High School. Science Teacher of 10 years & ScienceGeek4Life
Glad you didn't. You're my only Rafranz, and it's a beautiful name.
Hiya, . My name's Brian. I'm in Colorado, & I teach MS students English.
Hi Dan! Wow it's been a minute How are you?
Shane Ferguson. 7th grade math. Cincinnati, OH
Christy media production high school teacher
A0 Melanie, 7th gr. history, San Jose
Our topic is respecting and appreciating the names of our students. We're all back in school now, so dust off those class rosters.
Hi everyone :) Sabba here Dir. Innovative Learning Taught at a school with 80% intl Ss and every Ss changed their name
Jeremiah!! Aw shucks-- too kind! We said the same about you--you should have gained some new Visalian followers :)
Awesome sauce! How's the new year treating you?
Jo-Ann here! Escondido Instructional Coach at an amazing grades 4-7 school.
Oooh, hot topic! Great choice! https://t.co/ZmsdBumVac
Our topic is respecting and appreciating the names of our students. We're all back in school now, so dust off those class rosters.
Aloha! Ret hs/ms ELA in Hawaii and CA
My son's teacher! <3 <3 <3
John, Director of EdTech from Capistrano Unified.
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Q1: What strategies do you employ to remember so many names so quickly?
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Doing some grading as we speak (: Tonight's chat is perfect
A0: Kirstin Barnard, second year 4th grade teacher from Ladera Ranch, CA
Uh oh. I see no Dustins or Dustys on my dusted off rosters. https://t.co/qalpDwKbF5
Our topic is respecting and appreciating the names of our students. We're all back in school now, so dust off those class rosters.
A1: nametags, and always using names when addressing students.
Welcome Kirstin! Glad you're here
A1: I say them over and over to myself. I look in the yearbook sometimes. I print a roster with pictures (our SIS lets us do that)
Adina Sullivan, Ed Tech Coordinator K12 and someone whose name has been mangled since elementary school
A1 That's the thing...I am terrible with learning names quickly. It honestly takes me having several f2f conversations 1st
A0: Rick Stevens from San Fran area. 25 years teaching/admin. Now consultant. Tutor county program teens in math
A1: Honestly, I went back & studied them like they were a test. Had every student's name (and pronunciation) by the end of Week 1.
A1: I walk around the room and name kids in each group as they are working.
I also love YOUR name, "My Adina" !!!
Emily Clare, HS Principal for Am I allowed to join you from across the USA? https://t.co/0tC3ZoP6PT
Q0: Please take a moment to introduce yourself. Where are you from? What grade(s) do you teach?
A1: Collect and pass out papers individually for the first few days.
I do that, too! Its nice to start the first day of school knowing who they are. Clarify any tricky pronunciations.
Yes. Always the goal for the end of week 1. https://t.co/AuRZkTwGD0
A1: Honestly, I went back & studied them like they were a test. Had every student's name (and pronunciation) by the end of Week 1.
A1:Use their names every time you address them
A1 I have make real connections w/ people to remember names. So I get to know kids, play at recess, talk to them.
A1 I take role every day and look directly at the students when they answer
A1 let tudents write their own name tags and place on desk
RT A1:Use their names every time you address them
Hi, everyone. Moss Pike, DirEdTech and CS teacher at , signing in.
A1:When I think about my MS/HS counterparts 30 didn't feel so bad! Used name tags for 1st cpl wks & made sure to say S names often
A1+: Every student deserves to have their name called on and respected, so it was the least I can do to build that relationship.
A1 I greet each Ss by name at the door everyday, I make note of where Ss sit, and I play the name game https://t.co/YbMNACSNQ7
A1 Got mixed feelings about online grade book, but it's served me well as study tool by offering up photos to go w/litany of names
A1 Our attendance includes pics for most on day 1, Apologize day 1 for mispronunciations & note the phonetics
A1: Make myself call names every time I speak to a student, call by name to line up, hand me things, etc. https://t.co/9oBv7b0rSy
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Q1: What strategies do you employ to remember so many names so quickly?
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Totally agree! https://t.co/7b3T7po991
A1+: Every student deserves to have their name called on and respected, so it was the least I can do to build that relationship.
A1: When I was in the classroom it was lots of quick get to know you assignments. Multiple passes when out papers mae it stick.
Wow! That's impressive, it usually takes a couple of weeks, no matter what for me...
A1 Make a point of using them as often as I can—verbalizing helps me. Nicknames can also help.
This is why I'm here! Looking to learn from others some strategies https://t.co/6rC7iBNCjp
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Q1: What strategies do you employ to remember so many names so quickly?
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A1. I stand on the tables and go around the room shouting their names. They laugh. I remember and hope not to hurt myself
I knew the teachers who had a connection with my son if they knew him by his nickname or legal name.
A1 For tricky names I ask them how to pronounce it. I repeat it until it sounds correct to the student.
So, who gives the nicknames? You or the kids?
A1: turn my back, count to 10, students scramble, try to call name. 2 or 3 times in a pd. They love scrambling&seeing me struggle
A1 also give a questionnaire on day 1 (gform) to find out prefs/interesting facts - helps to remember & distinguish
A1: Check attendance portal to see student photos and names. Try to memorize all names in the first few days of school
Me too! I need an experience to connect w/ them! https://t.co/qgqoA1TUEq
A1 I have make real connections w/ people to remember names. So I get to know kids, play at recess, talk to them.
Yes, I also have them fill out a card 1st day, and use it to call on, my version of popsicle sticks
+1 for validating the culture in which the students' name carries with it.
https://t.co/B8yEKFS2YK
A1 For tricky names I ask them how to pronounce it. I repeat it until it sounds correct to the student.
Me, mostly. Sometimes the kids, but we let them happen organically, based on our behavior.
Q2 Name game w/juggling balls. Say name, toss, repeat. Time it & try to beat our time in same order. Add 2nd, 3rd ball option
A1: say their name when speaking to them and by getting to know them you'll connect them each to something unique
A1.2 This year, I'm effectively looping w/bunch of 8th graders I taught in 6th grade. Feels little like I'm cheating, name-wise :)
A1 Once on the first day of middle school my PE teacher called me "Joan." That then became what everyone called me.
A1: One of the Qs in my first-day survey asks what they'd like me to call them. Also ask for pron. & explain how important to me.
I never had trouble with unique names. It was the common names
I love Q1 from since I have around 770 names to try to learn this year.
If you haven't listened to this podcast, you should. While you're there, check out the one on whiteness https://t.co/nvuv5S7RbI
Agreed! It sticks better for me when using names personally and looking them in the eye. https://t.co/c7u5B6ijlz
A1: say their name when speaking to them and by getting to know them you'll connect them each to something unique
I also like to ask, how would you like me to address you?
A1 hardest is when is when I frequently had multiple of same name (F+L) I let them decide what to be called
A1 Also helps me to talk to them about their name and ask them what they prefer to be called. Not always apparent.
totally, if I can associate the student with a story they've shared or something they like it really helps!
Great start! Prepping Q2 now!
A1 Part 2. A first assignment is for Ss to record correct pronunciation of first & last on using discussion & audio/vid
I once had a student whose name was Maira. 2 years later I heard her 4th grade T calling her Maria. Not ok.
Classes w/repeated common names. That or twins as perhaps double-black diamond of naming challenges?
Is that to learn every student in the school?
Nice! I like that! https://t.co/GndUnNrMnQ
A1 Part 2. A first assignment is for Ss to record correct pronunciation of first & last on using discussion & audio/vid
Good evening
EduConsulltant➕Teacher
And Artist!
A1: iJust ask the kids if I forget.
The Artist in me permanently memorizes faces.
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Q2: How do you handle the names which are difficult to pronounce? (we have all made mistakes)
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Hi Scott Petri, HS History teacher from LA signing in late. Had to walk the dog.
That is all of the Ss I see as a specialist for grades 1-5.
A1: I'm not afraid to ask for help and let Ss know I'm learning, too!
would be a great tool to use too
A1: I also used Name Tags on their desks. And wrote their names in my GradeBook.
A2: I explain to ALL that it's important to me to say names correctly and then I ask each student to respond to first attendance.
OK, so in a case like this (which is similar to Q2), how do you handle the conversation with the teacher?
https://t.co/LqsZ9PwCNg
I once had a student whose name was Maira. 2 years later I heard her 4th grade T calling her Maria. Not ok.
A2 I have an arabic Ss this year, w/very long name, still working on it, it rolls off the tongue, but I've asked him to give grace
A2: Their response is their preferred name and I repeat it. I make them teach me because it's important to me to get it right.
Reason 982138 that I love having around. https://t.co/xBVeVx1sBQ
A2: I explain to ALL that it's important to me to say names correctly and then I ask each student to respond to first attendance.
A1 I also have them write three unique facts about themselves. Then I can start to put names with faces and unique facts
A2 As someone who was ALWAYS called everything but my name, this one was so important. I listened & learned from my students
This is a great question to start a discussion of student agency!
A2 Lather/rinse/repeat w/owner of name, hopefully in least embarrassing way possible. Have sought written down phonetic help too.
Wow! Are you directing the online class? Is it sci content?
A2 I let them know that my name is often mispronounced & need their help in getting theirs right because names are important
A2:laugh at myself, ask them to pronounce it for me, try again. Usually miss again later, repeat the process
A2: I ask Ss for their help and that I'm still learning. I also don't always hear well but I want to get it right.
Hi, ! Signing in after putting kids to bed! Shannon from Oakland HS humanities!
A2 Ask them! I’ve always preferred that people ask me about my own name, rather than make assumptions. Look for a story.
A2 +I had a teacher that refused to say my name correctly so I stopped communicating with her entirely until she said it correct
I have had many of these conversations. I talk to the kid first and ask if they want help. 1/2
A2: I ask the S to repeat it. Then I sing it in my head. I make up little songs to remember how to say it.
A2: i like to ask them so i can hear the correct pronunciation, i also like to learn what the name means, always so interesting
2/2 Then I just say to the teacher, "Did you know her/his name is pronounced...?" Direct is best way here.
I also relate that most people, including Ss and other Ts, mispronounce my name, so I understand, model behavior
A2: What is we reverse roll call. Day 1, have Ss tell *you* what their name is & you mark them present.
Anyone do this?
I hated when people asked me where my name came from. Like, where did "Julie" come from? My name came from my mom/culture
A2 I speak Spanish so that helps when pronouncing my ELL Ss names, mostly of Mexican descend
A2: I alway shared how people butchered my name and then they understood I knew what is was like and would treat them w/ respect.
A2 I am totally open day 1 that I will likely wreck a few and work hard to fix it from there. One year I 3 variations of Andrea
I've always wondered because it's so beautiful. But you shared its origin recently. Uncle?
I need a way to learn to pronounce student names when they are online students. I hate mispronouncing.
That's an interesting adaptation, I'll try it
yes, I think there's a lot of value in directness here. For the sake of the student /and/ teacher, it's important
A2 I always ask Ss to help me w/ their names and be patient as I butcher it. Eventually I get the hang of it.
A2: What if we reverse roll call. Day 1, have Ss tell *you* what their name is & you mark them present.
Anyone do this?
A1 Can't show in class, but took a few snippets from this to create a "Names" vid. to showcase importance:
https://t.co/oikzt0jN1M
A1: When I substitute taught I SPELLED the name + had Ss pronounce it for me to avoid heckling.
My students have a wide range of "non-English" names. I try to emphasize how important our names are to us.
and how did it go? Did it take a *long* time to get through roll? Was it valuable?
I actually did that this year for the first time with my student teacher
I've actually found that that conversation opens the door to learning about cultures, people ask me all the time
it's all incorporating respect and understanding even when making mistakes
You can also use a number of online tools to facilitate this. Get kids to record names in vocaroo & submit in a Google form
A2: I ask the Ss to make sure I say their names correctly & to correct me, then I practice tons! Like using rhymes to help myself
This was also my way to fight the don't smile until Christmas mentality amongst other Ts.
For me, I learned it was code for a different question"where did you come from/what ethnicity are you?"
Hello . Cherise jumping in. Literacy Researcher and Teacher Educator at Berkeley. Great topic tonight
RT You can also use a # of online tools to facilitate this. Get Ss 2 record names in vocaroo & submit in Google form
and how did it go? Was there added value in building the culture?
Very true but I've also found that people treat different-ness as other & I refuse to play into that role.
Not surprising, given folks can't always tell and seem to NEED to know. What's up w/that?
Maybe have them record if somewhere? Maybe turn it into a welcome / meet & greet little clip? hmmm...
Great video! I know a supe who was tricked into thinking it was a sub in his district on April Fools. https://t.co/E62xfGK5eE
A1 Can't show in class, but took a few snippets from this to create a "Names" vid. to showcase importance:
https://t.co/oikzt0jN1M
Agreed, it often is. Do you think it comes from something other than a good place? https://t.co/vJ2p7gOyC2
For me, I learned it was code for a different question"where did you come from/what ethnicity are you?"
Yes, names are everything. Carry them everywhere.
Extremely valuable and put the power in their hands. Time is worth it https://t.co/zaAEB3JtzI
and how did it go? Did it take a *long* time to get through roll? Was it valuable?
A2 even when applying the Spanish phonemes to name pronunciation it's always embarrassing when a Ss name isn't what it appears
Q3 is on the way! Keep the conversation going!
A lot of tough, quality conversations happening right now in . Thank you all for engaging.
They won't feel like they can fail if we don't do it loud and proud! It also helps them see learning never stops.
Hi Shannon! Happy new (school) year!
A2: My first & last name are always pronounced wrong! I write S names phonetically on roll sheet to help me in the first few weeks
I have that problem with B de bota y V de vaca! ;-) https://t.co/zRfKjBJ3HF
A2 even when applying the Spanish phonemes to name pronunciation it's always embarrassing when a Ss name isn't what it appears
So. So. Soooooo true.
https://t.co/fOtgU7f2ec
A2 even when applying the Spanish phonemes to name pronunciation it's always embarrassing when a Ss name isn't what it appears
Padlet and Seesaw are great tools for virtual introductions and for integrating some app fluency if you have devices
sometimes a good place, sometimes not based on the reaction to the answer
A2 We need to be aware that sometimes students won't correct their teacher so it is imp to let them know it is imp to you
Q3: When it comes to names, we often use/hear the phrase “Americanized” in terms of common names. What are your thoughts on this?
Used to dislike my name when I was younger, but now I like to tell the story behind it (most of the time).
I have so many Kirstens in my life. They all pronounce it differently.
absolutely.They introduced themselves to us and painted a picture of themselves to the class and teachers
I have two Alexis (don't know what plural of this name would be), it can be confusing
Right. I can see how that could be.
"What's in a Name?"ongoing theme in class. Regions as well. Middle East or Southwest Asia?:
https://t.co/12l1EYtmNv
A3: I encourage students to proudly use their given names, but always use what they prefer. I compliment how nice their names are.
That's a cool strategy definitely interactive and personalized https://t.co/v7OCJnUsmY
You can also use a number of online tools to facilitate this. Get kids to record names in vocaroo & submit in a Google form
yes. super helpful strategy. also their preferred name
It's also great brain break (; Like GoNoodle
I have had students preferred the Spanish pronunciation and others who didn't, also https://t.co/HPA6FFEzw5
A2 even when applying the Spanish phonemes to name pronunciation it's always embarrassing when a Ss name isn't what it appears
A3: "Americanized" or "anglo-cized". Definitely happens.
A3: I will learn to pronounce a Ss name how ever they want me too, or at least I try as Airy, Ary, Arey, and Aire could tell you.
Yes! this one is imp to recognize. power differential at work. imp to open the door for them
It was this experience that prompted me to ask how they wanted me to address them
A3:It is 2016 that practice which never should have existed must be extinguished
happens to so many, this is a cool video did on this topic. excellent for discussion with Ss
A2 spend prep time before classes begin studying languages and names; ex: in HI, Samoan, Hawaiian, etc for pronunciation
My experience too, especially in ESL. Would often say it was really important to me to get their name right.
A3 We need to ask what Ss prefer. So many times I have seen Ss who won't correct their teacher.
A3: I taught in a predominantly Spanish-speaking community and tried *hard* to pronounce names. Respecting their culture is >>>
A3 There is a spectrum here: An *Americanized* name might be a micro-aggression, or a pet name. Ask the S.
Sometimes, it is because students are used to this happening and give up trying https://t.co/O1irKDSCuQ
A3 We need to ask what Ss prefer. So many times I have seen Ss who won't correct their teacher.
A3 From a purely linguistic perspective, it makes sense to me. But the cultural perspective can tell a different story.
A3: My Ss don't like to correct Ts. I insist they tell me how their name is intended to be pronounced so I can be respectful.
I have seen this with Ts, too. That's why relationship is key. With trust people will disclose true identity.
A3: personal choice but your school culture & tone should always reflect that "americanizing" your name is not an expectation
A3: I kindly insist, I should stress.
A3 I'm going to defer to the name's owner. Might be bold enough to say, "Noticed you said X, but your name on paper looks like Y?"
So true, this is a large pop of Ss we serve. We have to be model of respect and show how diversity is benefit 4all
A2 used to have Ss write names phonetically as well how to correctly use diacritical marks. Ss learned how to pronounce anything.
Yes, I ask, and then I check again, I change spellings, shorten names on request etc. over and over.
I'm not a fan of the 'whichever' answer I sometimes get when asking how to say a name. I ask what their moms say.
A3. Makes me aware in the moment of imperial/colonial power, and of the power differential with American culture and most others...
And for many ELL Ss being singled out because the name sounds a little different is tough https://t.co/TQ3LifZGr7
For me, I learned it was code for a different question"where did you come from/what ethnicity are you?"
A3 Again, it’s about the story one wants a name to reflect on their identity.
We now also have Ss who are trans and would prefer a different gendered name and pronouns. IMPORTANT to respect.
I also ask them to learn subs names, not Mr. Z or Ms. G
Exactly. Or culturally they are told by Ps to respect and not question teachers. Important we are aware of this.
Very true! https://t.co/wn4soMktOg
We now also have Ss who are trans and would prefer a different gendered name and pronouns. IMPORTANT to respect.
Wow-- the honesty in some of these is amazing. Impressive work!
A3 America is such a melting pot. Why should some names be more "American" than others" The term "Americanized name" is played
Just a bit late Elaine fro Mariposa
A3: When we ask the S what they prefer- and we work to get it right... The S knows they are important and we care!
A3: When I have my students "call in" and read their work I also get a chance to hear how they really say their own name.
A3 Many of us immigrants had our names "changed" @ Ellis Island ; shd be indiv choice for pride or "ease" of ID
Me either. I want my Ss to be proud of their name. I want them to be called what they want to be called.
The "name change at Ellis Island" is a myth. If anything, the ancestor changed it, not an immigration worker.
A3.2 1 challenge I encounter asking Ss for guidance among competing pronunciations is S saying, "I don't care." I insist on help.
Articulate and well stated point, why and how we model this https://t.co/oRxrsnilWW
A3: When we ask the S what they prefer- and we work to get it right... The S knows they are important and we care!
A3: People pronounce in terms of their linguistic background. Apologize for mangled names. Simply ask S to help
A3. Interrogating how names have Americanized/where names have come from can be a great entry point into history/ss curriculum
Giving up on correcting adults can happen pretty early. Balance between respect 4 self & authority
But it's important to understand why ancestors felt pressured to Americanize their names.
A3 Yes, and def at the classroom level. Teacher to Student. Embracing indie student ID & preference https://t.co/yxPYq2ZRAQ
A3: personal choice but your school culture & tone should always reflect that "americanizing" your name is not an expectation
can you say more on this? I had no idea that the immigration worker didn't force/coerce immigrants to change.
Or why some names were changed because slave owners made that choice
Jamie Joyce So Cal joining late
with older Ss prior experiences can influence what they say, talking about the value of culture and diversity can help
There were workers who spoke the languages of immigrants entering. They could record the accurate names.
A3 I'm especially sensitive to students who ask me to change their name to another gender. Always ask about pronouns, quietly.
It is sad bc my maiden name was changed so it could be pronounced. With that change we lost a bit of our heritage.
In that case, it's not immigration or Ellis Island. It's human trafficking and inhumane.
exactly, not to mention, immigrant populations are pressured to pick an american name
When I was in middle school, most of our entire community went thru shortening last names to 3 syllables or less.
At Ellis Island the spelling of my maiden name changed. Sometimes it was lack of literacy skills.
For sure! Because we all aren't immigrants. People forget that
However, as in the case of my family, it was changed bc they were tired of everyone messing it up.
A3: Allow students to go by the name they prefer. Celebrate our cultural differences and backgrounds
RT For sure! Because we all aren't immigrants. People forget that
you can say that again. therein lies the history lesson for everyone. cultural awareness
I remember a conversation with about that one.
I like that. Let's them feel wanted and included
Yes... we want our Ss to speak up when they need to.
This isn't about fitting in. This is also about survival!
you know that joke about the Polish Jew who arrived in Ellis Island
I think it's great to share (when we know) about our own family experiences with names. We don't HAVE TO be that COUNTRY anymore.
Ah interesting, may I ask if you'll speak more to this point
I meant to capitalize THAT and not country. (trying to watch tv and chat...)
I'm trying to grade and chat...so far chat is winning (:
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Q4: How do you confront your biases and preconceived notions when looking at student names?
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Shoot. My name was a Polish name. Now it is just Blinkey. And yes... I got teased a lot.
Did this slip by me in the stream? (If so, it's back. If not, it seems relevant in a willy way.) https://t.co/vipj4V6hDS
My name was to honor an Icelandic Tale, our heritage. Either is a great story. Ss should know
I'm happy that you were able to track that down and see the error!
A4: I like to tell students there is a lot I DON'T know. Also had Ss teach me convention of pronouncing Indian names.
the poor guy was so confused that he said in Yiddish "shoin fergessen" (I forget)
Speaking english is an expectation for employment and support, almost everywhere. It's a sad reality
A4 Build quality relationships with kids so that they’re more than just a name on a roster. Get to know people as people.
+1 for humanizing the names on your roster.
https://t.co/OyOf2w4K0p
A4 Build quality relationships with kids so that they’re more than just a name on a roster. Get to know people as people.
A4 Roll sheet once said Guadalupe, when boy Ss arrived, I realized my mistake, since then, it's like w/PPL don't tk until u knw
Absolutely, it's how I refill myself with other amzng Ts
It always shocks me that we actually have to remind educators that this is important.
A4: I like to ask my students their names first before I go to the roll sheet
A4: Honestly, I have to check myself sometimes.
A4 Every time I teach a sibling of a S with whom I've worked before, it's time to confront biases & preconceived notions.
A4 good for students to introduce themselves, rather than calling roll on day one. clears all expectations
Ahh, so these homes may do it for that reason, but don't the Ss loose something too?
A4: Don't have any biases!
A4 I try not to look at names before students arrive. I want to meet them when I meet them.
Likewise! That this is still a goal in education continues to amaze me.
Joining late. One great strategy is 1st assignment of the year: 1-min video intro uploaded to our LMS. https://t.co/I0z5vlDzoh
A3 Communicate utmost respect to Ss. They appreciate it. Student once jokingly asked if I was Samoan bc I got his name right. :)
Proud and Polish here. Some think my Gma's family denied their Jewish ancestry.
Another good point, though I wonder if having more than 1 lang is advantage today?
A4: realized a few yrs ago i need a lesson in Chinese English, a few simple lessons can go far in helping with pronunciation
It was a Polish name that got changed. Not on Ellis. It is now Blinkey and yes... I got teased a lot.
good point. this is a hard one. erase the schema
A4 So, I met a white woman named Lucretia. That's how I learned to expand my expectations of names
A4: There's always going to be biases, implicit or otherwise. It's about how we manage those to create and maintain safe spaces.
Let's ask students what they need us to know about them beyond their name some interesting insights may appear
Joining in late,but just came across the conversation and thought I would stop a while.
I ask a lot of things in my first-day survey, so I get to know their interested and expertise they bring to class. +names
I don't know how I would be able to teach without building relationships. It would be impossible to me.
A4: I had so many Jorge's through the years that the name started coming with preconceived notions about "his" behavior. Unfair.
A4: I try to learn about them and their interests/ goals- and how I can best serve them in the school library.
A4 even as a minority's I'd like 2 say I never experience this but it's hard 2 overlook personal experiences sometimes
A4: When a S comes with a name I might have a bias with, like an alcoholic drink, I have to remember S didn't choose it.
true that https://t.co/ZnU7m3xIIf
A4: There's always going to be biases, implicit or otherwise. It's about how we manage those to create and maintain safe spaces.
A4: I think any T bias really shows through their expectations of students. Low expectations are destructive and insulting.
And it just wouldn’t be fun (and it isn’t, based on those I see who’ve fallen into this trap)!
Shaking my fist at you !!!! You suck me in when I should be in bed sleeping! I curse you!!!! ;)
My name is Diane. I hate when people call me Diana. It's not much, but it is my pet peeve around my name.
A4 Names are stories. Rich in history. I honor the fact that parents/students chose a name for a reason.
A4: We all have linguistic bias. I typically seek out bilingual aides or others whom I can ask re pronunciation. Also just ask Ss
Remind myself that they may or may not speak any Spanish, or even have a Spanish-influenced dialect https://t.co/Bi9Z0L82wA
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Q4: How do you confront your biases and preconceived notions when looking at student names?
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This right here. If you learn their they aren't a group they are a student you care about!
A4 There is bias, even judging a kid's performance based on a name or familiarity of name & there shouldn't be
I think we have that too. I have done research that our name has Jewish history to it.
If I had a dollar for every time I was called “Mike”….
Me too--> Most commonly Cherie. I used to "let it slide" but now I call it out. My name is my name.
During my grandparents time there was a lot of hatred toward Polish.
A4. I usually read Sandra Cisneros "My Name" w/new Ss, & have kids interview their parents about their names at the beg of the yr.
Something I've been wondering about is pronunciation of accents -- like rolling rs with Latin names. Good or bad?
I went to school with a Cherisse. I always thought her name was so pretty. Also a Chantal.
Observed a teacher who started every year with "Story of My Name" assignment. Still want to do that.
That’s actually kind of cool. Not as cool as the Roman goddess Diana, but still awesome.
I with you there, I hate it when I am called Danny. Dan or Daniel are fine. Then there is Daniel-san...
A4. IMO relationship building is number 1. It starts with a name and making sure you learn it quickly and properly
maybe those guys in Ellis Island intentionally changed names
Uh-oh! say that! Seeing a name and thinking you "know" them already. For better or for worse.
ooh, you'll need to get the details of that assignment and share it... please :)
A4: I also share my name with my students and they often pronounce it incorrectly or may think my middle name is strange
Learn to say their names. I always asked what they are called at home. Kids loved that I wanted to learn https://t.co/k8WBZzUYLl
Something I've been wondering about is pronunciation of accents -- like rolling rs with Latin names. Good or bad?
Both yr name Moss & Dollar Mike would make sweet names for characters in Westerns. (Might just be my bias...)
Great book to launch that activity is The Name Jar.
there were a lot of Jewish Polish immigrants in the turn of the 20th century
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Q5: How do we empower students to leave our classrooms and schools with more pride/confidence about their culture/name?
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A4 when you think you know it all Ss remind us that we have that we have much learning and growing to do
And I'm not Joanna or Joan. But I love going by Jojo or Jo. But most people call me Jo-Ann or Mrs. Fox ;)
Some of my Latino Ss got their classes changed and def. questioned when transitioning from MS to HS--despite recommendation:(
good way for us to model and also share the thinking/reflections behind it
A5: Respect the student, respect the culture. Always.
lol We must uplift each other tmwr when we 😚😴🎷🎸
A5 Don't give kids shortened nicknames that they didn't ask for just because it's easier for you. This is so important!
A5: I like to find out what they like about their names. Special significance in their family? (I'm a family historian.)
A5 As was mentioned, we respect their names, and provide a safe space for them to own it and celebrate it all year
will call name with rolled r, bc grew up spking, but I always ask if that's right. Usually answer is smile & yes
A4 Book talk: Read "My Name is Maria Isabel" and "The Name Jar" to spark conv with Ss.
Well, I am a space cowboy, after all.
A5: Help them find the import to their name. Almost every parent had something special in mind when they named their child.
People can never figure out how I got JR from my full legal name
I didn't know that you were a family historian!
If we value their name/culture, they will begin to value it (if they don't already).
A5 given our power as Ts & ability 2 create affirming space, granting Ss chance 2 share stories of culture & names goes long way!
and yet you go by something other than your legal name. Why is that? Genuinely curios.
I don't know your full name. I'd love to learn it!
A5 Help them learn the history of their names. It can be fascinating to trace them as far back as possible.
See there is a story there. Names are stories.
Absolutely, my daughter hates her name mispronounced but loves to tell people the significance. Makes her proud of it
A5: merging culture & diversity into the daily fabric of your classroom can empower Ss to be confidant in their heritage
Yes, ma'am. I love doing family trees for friends.
Q5 create assignments that reach others in the community, not exclusive to the T. Give air time to Ss voice from your class
That's been the response this year when I asked "April" what she was called at home..."Abril"...so Abril it is.
Loved starting school yr by reading The Name Jar. Inspired Ss 2want 2share their stories w/class! https://t.co/WS22h5JDAQ
Yeah, for some of us...that's actually impossible...sadly https://t.co/rWWw22nvO5
A5 Help them learn the history of their names. It can be fascinating to trace them as far back as possible.
A5 Read the books I just tweeted about in Q4. Also, have students learn about the story of their name.
I'm with you. Also makes me wonder, Should I always respect the Ss' take on his/her culture? Murkier, sometimes.
A5: Help them understand they matter and the world needs them! If they know we care about their they will build real pride.
had student do research on local veteran who shared his name. He was very excited, but by the time 1/2 https://t.co/ZAEwWsRYTw
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Q5: How do we empower students to leave our classrooms and schools with more pride/confidence about their culture/name?
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A5b I've had so many comm'ty college Ss say "wow I never shared that w/anyone." Walk away w/pride, esteem after assignments
also when Ss don't know their name stories, they get to research
A5: Pride &self-confidence are linked. They take time to develop. Acknowledge the value and difference each S brings
Sometimes even parents regret decision & don't use legal name /it's connected to what is now a negative https://t.co/DyXA5itBGo
A5: Help them find the import to their name. Almost every parent had something special in mind when they named their child.
that response in itself can be a very powerful discussion with Ss
Made me think of a reading recommendation apropos of tonight's - _The Other Wes Moore_
A5: In every name, there's a story. Find it; and be genuinely interested
A5 2/2 time he got home, he INSISTED to his mom this guy was her uncle, and couldn't be dissuaded, which . . . oops.
When we chose names for my kids, we wanted something original. Something NOT on the top 100 list. Something connected to us.
Yep, we can't actually trace our family history beyond 3-4 generations. Those records don't exist
A5 teach them and empower them with knowledge this is how they will find pride in who they are, a name is only a small piece
This has been a quick discussion. Gearing up for Q6
A5 Remember names are great reinforcers. Use the name to praise and avoid using the name to address behavior issues. Not easy.
A5: When I taught ESL in HS, we did publishing project culminating in cookbooks with cultural stories, real tasting. Ss loved it.
A4. Acknowledging my biases is step 1. I know it's easier for me to remember names of sts who look like me. I quiz myself on names
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Q6: Beyond names alone, in what other ways can we create a space that celebrates culture in our classrooms and schools?
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A5:Celebrate Ss name/culture! Ea yr we did cultural reports, had parents come in at holidays & teach, etc https://t.co/MkPPWvgRJ3
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Q5: How do we empower students to leave our classrooms and schools with more pride/confidence about their culture/name?
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i.e. if they possess a deficit frame? def. imp. to engage transformative teaching/historical literacy
But be sensitive. Ex: friend's son is named after father who ended up being a really bad guy. https://t.co/ZoSxgTt0li
A5: In every name, there's a story. Find it; and be genuinely interested
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A5 Remember names are great reinforcers. Use the name to praise and avoid using the name to address behavior issues. Not easy.
A6: Learn about other cultures and honor them.
A6 One way is to have a balanced classroom library with books rich in culture.
A6 Allow kids the room to be who they are. Respect that. Learn with them and admit when you need to learn more. Do that work
It also forces me to get closer to a student who needs intervention anyway.
Yes, those are lines I was thinking along. Or Ss trying so hard to fit in they give up bits of identity.
Yes. I found a lot of Ss had names honoring elder or passed family members. Those stories were worth telling.
A5: Develop a class culture that celebrates differences. Connect your classroom to the world via https://t.co/SXLtTrgVfj
A5. Take time to learn about it. Give class time to the outcomes we care about.
knowing our personal story is only in my culture so I model that value by sharing family stories
A6 Make connections with the families in your school community.
A5: Create opportunities for Ss to share their culture- celebrate these differences. Explore rich heritage together
A6: To me, it all comes down to respecting students and their culture. If they feel respected, celebrations come naturally.
A6 by learning the history and origin of a name from one student that can often help me connect with another in the future.
A6: Know your audience. Learn the language, the culture. Don't be satisfied to be disconnected.
Agreed. Use tact, and learn the backstory. I try to get the scouting report first ;)
A6: Let parents be involved and run things even if it might be different than we may have envisioned
A6 humanizing pedagogy- valuing students' stories, positions in society, common struggles & visions. Not just scores & rules
A6 Cultural fluency needs to be placed on par with linguistic fluency. Learn how people reflect their cultures.
A6: Ask students to share what they like most about what their family celebrates together.
Recently in class doing Respect Agreemnt, Ss said they didn't want T to throw shoe @ them. T had never heard of "la chancla".
Thank you for having me & Now to go catch up on mindless TV :)
A6 cultural festivals 2 celebrate all, staff, Ss & Ts. will be celebrating its third one this year we learn from all
This response is on point. Thank you, Cherise.
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A6 humanizing pedagogy- valuing students' stories, positions in society, common struggles & visions. Not just scores & rules
A6 Champion choice in reading & writing to encourage Ss to be themselves & also explore alternate selves.
Thanks for the great chat tonight and . You all made the hour fly by!
A6 just hang out with your students at recess/break and lunch and get to know them. It comes naturally.
the fitting in is tough, esp as they get older. Studying issues rather than individuals can be helpful
It's been an hour already???
You should totally moderate a & need to make that happen!
that is a new thing I learned tonight!
A6 In my science class we used to discuss old wive's tales and how so many cultures have common superstitions.
We love using my maps to travel to a Ss place of origin, it brings us closer together https://t.co/PyvvKmvEt1
A6 One way is to have a balanced classroom library with books rich in culture.
Thank you & for an fantastic and challenging chat! Learned a lot
Gotta run . Thought I'd drop by to say hi, even if just for a bit. HI! (Have a great week!)
those cultural nuances are so important!
A6:This is a great way to get parents engaged have them share culture. We had a parent group that would perform Ballet Folklorico
What you propose, Cherise, sounds a little like situating oneself without losing oneself. I like it.
A6. I teach English. For me, this means taking a big step away from white male-centric Canon & celebrating lit that reps my sts.
Thank you all so much for joining . It wouldn't be possible without your high-caliber engagement.
, you are the best.
So glad I caught for a few mins tonight! You all made me think about S focus as I begin a work week. Thank you, friends👍
Great tone with this group❤️
A6 Example: Day of the Dead. Ss write bio piece on relative (or pet), learn about each other's hist
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