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ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:00 PM EST

@tj_custer You are very welcome. We look forward to your opinions experiences and views #ASEChat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:01 PM EST

First point tonight - 'How is the workload of science teachers different to other subjects?' #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:02 PM EST

Billions of mock-papers to mark. *runs off and cries* :) #asechat @ViciaScience

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:03 PM EST

@ViciaScience Sorry, millions :) #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:03 PM EST

@ViciaScience well at least 50 #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:04 PM EST

Does practical work add significantly to the workload of science teachers? #ASEChat

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:04 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat in primary, one of many subjects. Smart marking..ladders/l.obj headings can be ticked off/peer marking

wamatia Jan 25 @ 3:05 PM EST

#asechat in primary, one of many subjects. Smart marking..ladders/l.objheadings can b https://t.co/16rCBF83af https://t.co/otl3odjxBH

ObeyNova_ Jan 25 @ 3:04 PM EST

I liked a @YouTube video from @cobns https://t.co/OFqfdfHqSe Joined Bad

DehDehn Jan 25 @ 3:05 PM EST

Does practical work add significantly to the workload of science teachers? #ASEChat https://t.co/e0ku5E4ZCF https://t.co/1ikK3mXDAf

ARCBroward Jan 25 @ 3:04 PM EST

With Valentine's Day just around the corner, we had to share this happily ever after story. We've been following... https://t.co/ZGLz43TXS4

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:05 PM EST

#asechat good evening all. I would put the science teacher workload right up at the top. But I am biased

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:05 PM EST

@anhalf from a primary perspective how does science compare with other subjects regarding workload? Much the same as the rest? #ASEChat

FiFantasticfi Jan 25 @ 3:06 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat running many different courses at ks4 and 5 vocational and academic

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:06 PM EST

@ViciaScience Lot less than many english or primary teachers #ASEchat

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:06 PM EST

@ViciaScience getting requisitions in on time and trying out pracs means we need to plan in advance more than other subjects #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:06 PM EST

@gregtheseal Good evening. I am sure many of us feel the same as you, but hard to be objective if like me have only taught science #ASEChat

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:07 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat I do also think english teachers have it tough too.

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:07 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi Science does seem to offer a larger number of exam courses at secondary than other subjects #ASEChat

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:08 PM EST

@ViciaScience @gregtheseal at the moment it's the government's fault - too much change at once #asechat #workload

ljrn42 Jan 25 @ 3:08 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @ViciaScience Liz joins Alex in crying #asechat

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:08 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat depends on task. Graphs take ages! Always looking out for misconceptions

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:09 PM EST

@ViciaScience I work roughly the same number of hours as my year 1 teaching wife. #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:09 PM EST

Ch-ch-ch-changes. In curriculum etc - none stop since I became a teacher 5 years ago. #asechat KS3,4,5 etc etc meh! https://t.co/HLJ45M27Tl

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:08 PM EST

@ViciaScience @gregtheseal at the moment it's the government's fault - too much change at once #asechat #workload

dodiscimus Jan 25 @ 3:09 PM EST

@jk_graves @ViciaScience @gregtheseal So true #asechat And it affects quality of T & L as well as workload.

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:10 PM EST

@ViciaScience @FiFantasticfi more papers overall. I have this on good authority from our exams officer #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:10 PM EST

Question: does excessive teacher workload mean doing things we don't like or don't value more often than we like? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:11 PM EST

@jk_graves @gregtheseal agree there has been lots curriculum change at all levels. Science changed more than other subjects? #ASEChat

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:11 PM EST

@A_Weatherall it will feel like 1 million hours to mark. I have some year 13’s to do. #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:11 PM EST

Wouldn't many of us fill our time anyway with things we do like to do regarding teaching instead? #ASEchat #werethatsortofpeople

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:12 PM EST

@anhalf Do primary teachers think science load has increased since new NC, including more on graphs etc #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:12 PM EST

@agittner don't know what you mean *takes part in #asechat instead of marking*

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:13 PM EST

@ViciaScience @jk_graves #asechat I think the biggest issue is being Core till year 11. 30+ class sizes and tons of content= lots of marking

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:14 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat its about making links, maths&science, natural partners, only way to fit in.

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:14 PM EST

@agittner are you suggesting the workload issue is a lever to change conditions of employment? #ASEChat

allchats Jan 25 @ 3:15 PM EST

#ASEChat, a discussion on science teacher workload, is live now! Join the conversation.

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:15 PM EST

imagine how you would work if you taught in a school that banned taking books home and closed at 5.30pm...... do that? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:15 PM EST

So far no one has argued that workload is not a serious issue for science teachers #ASEChat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

@agittner I think that's a very good point Alastair, along with your tweet that followed; we would fill the time w positive #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

But an emerging consensus that the workload for secondary science teachers is no greater than for English or primary teachers #ASEchat

Glazgow Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

@agittner agreed, I'm currently finishing an essay for my EdX Climate Change course...marking can wait! #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

@ViciaScience it's a serious issue for most, if not all teachers #asechat

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi @ViciaScience we did 20 different papers during the last set of mocks #asechat

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

@agittner I would be getting up very early and setting much more work on google docs #asechat

dodiscimus Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

A bit long for #asechat but my thoughts on workload haven't changed sincce I wrote this https://t.co/inkfhUVynH

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:17 PM EST

@ViciaScience think it's a serious issue for ALL teachers - scientists have their own problems but we know that others have theirs #asechat

aishflaherty Jan 25 @ 3:17 PM EST

#ASEchat.Simultaneously enhancing conceptual understanding, procedural skills while maintainig saftey #hard https://t.co/QftzAGgVXz

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:04 PM EST

Does practical work add significantly to the workload of science teachers? #ASEChat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:18 PM EST

There is always more you feel you could/should do as a teacher #asechat https://t.co/eitM7kFsES

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:11 PM EST

Wouldn't many of us fill our time anyway with things we do like to do regarding teaching instead? #ASEchat #werethatsortofpeople

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:18 PM EST

@ViciaScience Aren't we self selecting on #ASEchat. Being on here means we already work different hours to some?

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett Exactly my point. :-) #ASEchat

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @ViciaScience if you take Alex’s point how long will it take mark 50 mocks? 10min a paper……?#asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM EST

Thanks for clarification #ASEChat Suggests this has always been the case for teachers and always will be? https://t.co/6VwZAn7aBH

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM EST

@ViciaScience No I mean that we work long hours because we can, we don't mind if its things we value, we only object when its things we dont

ljrn42 Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM EST

@gregtheseal @ViciaScience @jk_graves definitely. If you only see a group once a fortnight it's totally different #asechat

Glazgow Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM EST

@ViciaScience @anhalf big issue in ps is set up & clean up time...I've not had a full break all year & often washing up at 5:30pm #asechat

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM EST

@gregtheseal @agittner I'd love to work until 5:30 then put it away but I do have to collect my own kids and feed them 😀#asechat

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM EST

My biggest problem is the ease with which other people can add to my workload - usually by email. #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM EST

@gregtheseal @A_Weatherall @ViciaScience I always think of English teachers when I think of my marking load... #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM EST

@agittner So has the workload of science teachers changed recently? #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM EST

@gregtheseal @ViciaScience that's about right. #asechat

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM EST

@Glazgow @ViciaScience some train their y6 as techies, is on my to-do list #asechat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM EST

Does marking take most of your time up? Altho it always feels like it, i dont spend more time marking than planning #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:21 PM EST

@ViciaScience How long is a piece of string? The average science teacher working in the average school classified as good?#ASechat

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:21 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett nor me - planning mostly #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience Or a poor teacher under capability having to review their practice for the first time in years under draconian SLT? #ASEchat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM EST

Everyone has too much to do (often consumed w work that is largely lacking impact, so isn't worth doing) Requires wholesale shift #asechat

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience Implementing new A level and new GCSE (for year9) has significantly increased planning time #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM EST

Watching Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur https://t.co/9XHu9vXxtU #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM EST

Good evening #asechat, quite a lot of this chat seems to focus on time for marking, is this more time consuming than for other subjects?

FiFantasticfi Jan 25 @ 3:23 PM EST

@ViciaScience @agittner my stress levels have increased due to all the changes! #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:23 PM EST

Top tips for workload: engage with your SLT make them think about this with every one of their wonderful pronouncements #ASEchat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:24 PM EST

@ThomasCarlPion So workloads have increased due to curriculum change, but this is temporary? Is more collaboration the answer? #ASEChat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:25 PM EST

@jk_graves Teaching/intervention, planning lessons, department stuff and then marking. But getting more efficient every year #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:25 PM EST

Top tip 2: Mark - plan - teach. View marking as planning, it changes your perspective, we all like planning don't we? #ASEchat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:25 PM EST

@agittner it's the same for all ppl in schools - evaluate what you're doing and how much impact it has, question those ineffective #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:26 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi @ViciaScience @agittner agreed! Wish there was a way of feeling more supported than 'everyone has to deal with it' #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:26 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi @ViciaScience @agittner same question.. is workload for the changes to curriculum more for science? #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:26 PM EST

@agittner Some further tips for reducing workload via Guardian https://t.co/UAsHfkSp7Z Anyone care to share their tips? #ASEchat

FiFantasticfi Jan 25 @ 3:26 PM EST

@ViciaScience I think workload has increased due to change from modular to linear as now far more mocks/Ppe marking #ASEChat

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:26 PM EST

@sarahpurplee Hi Sarah, don't forget to add #asechat #PrimaryRocks if you want everyone else to see your tweets.

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:27 PM EST

I'd like to retweet the last two contributions from @mrthomson but they are too long for hootsuite all I can say is Hear hear!! #ASEchat

bailo_andy Jan 25 @ 3:27 PM EST

@agittner I think this would be the dream IF SoL were designed with that cycle in mind. But they never are. #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:27 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett I spend more time planning and feel guilty, but I would sink without planning properly. #asechat

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:27 PM EST

@ViciaScience Temporary? First years of teaching new GCSE last another two years by which time KS3 will be ripe for change again!! #asechat

jk_graves Jan 25 @ 3:27 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @FiFantasticfi @ViciaScience @agittner English have it worse #ASEChat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:28 PM EST

@hrogerson @FiFantasticfi @ViciaScience Stress is different to workload, change does bring stress #ASEchat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:28 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi Surely the intention of replacing modular with linear was to reduce the time on exam prep? #ASEChat

dodiscimus Jan 25 @ 3:28 PM EST

@ViciaScience @ThomasCarlPion A central question bank for hinge questions would be helpful #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:29 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi @ViciaScience That’s interesting…Have you replaced Modular exams with your own internal but high stakes tests? #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:29 PM EST

@ThomasCarlPion Many are now pushing for greater stability in the curriculum, even if it is not perfect #ASEChat

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:29 PM EST

Maybe they're too busy to reply! #asechat #PrimaryRocks https://t.co/AupyHqFlRT

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:15 PM EST

So far no one has argued that workload is not a serious issue for science teachers #ASEChat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:29 PM EST

@hrogerson @Mr_Gillett and planning and executing good lessons is far far far far more important than marking books #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:30 PM EST

@ViciaScience @FiFantasticfi certainly done the opposite. More internal testing and marking to check and measure progress. #asechat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:30 PM EST

@hrogerson Why feel guilty for planning??! Planning a lesson you are excited about is one of the best bits of the job! #asechat

dodiscimus Jan 25 @ 3:30 PM EST

Also, deep analysis of the recall knowledge required for GCSE and AL plus big supply of quick Qs #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:30 PM EST

@hrogerson @ViciaScience @FiFantasticfi yes, I think so, we're doing two mock sessions. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:30 PM EST

That is our job! its called teaching! well said #asechat https://t.co/lZ945bVvz9

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:30 PM EST

@hrogerson Why feel guilty for planning??! Planning a lesson you are excited about is one of the best bits of the job! #asechat

stevethedoc1 Jan 25 @ 3:31 PM EST

@JaneWinter115 @ViciaScience #asechat certainly an issue until teachers decide why and who they are marking for ?

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:31 PM EST

@ViciaScience That time has been filled with a fatter curriculum (GCSE physics at least) #asechat

FiFantasticfi Jan 25 @ 3:31 PM EST

@jk_graves @NeedhamL56 @ViciaScience @agittner English do have a high load however don't have the new practical requirements #ASEChat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:31 PM EST

@mrthomson @hrogerson In our school, students really respond to marking well, which makes it a more rewarding task #asechat

dodiscimus Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

@agittner @ViciaScience @ThomasCarlPion @MaryUYSEG Do you mean the York diagnostic Qs? #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett I agree! But marking, evidencing, not getting hammered by inspectors etc etc! 😭 #asechat

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

@dodiscimus You could suggest this to ASE Education Group (the group formerly known as Assembly) #asechat

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

@agittner @ViciaScience #asechat I have missed the last few #asechat due to marking and creating my new BTEC units. Still managed to tweet!

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

@agittner @ViciaScience #asechat I have missed the last few #asechat due to marking and creating my new BTEC units. Still managed to tweet!

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

Absolutely; however, there is almost an urban myth that that is what the powers that be want I think. #asechat https://t.co/UUgtaMJcJ8

stevethedoc1 Jan 25 @ 3:31 PM EST

@JaneWinter115 @ViciaScience #asechat certainly an issue until teachers decide why and who they are marking for ?

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:33 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett @hrogerson ours do too, but I'm not convinced the value of book marking. Happy with impact of proper assessments #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:33 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett @mrthomson we haven't got that. Only Y6 pick up their book and respond immediately to comments. #asechat

agittner Jan 25 @ 3:33 PM EST

Top tip 3: bring your marking policy upto date,ensure it is manageable and then mark to that https://t.co/RVbrIIAbzN @HThompson1982 #asechat

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:33 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett @mrthomson @hrogerson #asechat Indeed, this makes it worth it. It is great when students respond well and develop from marking

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:33 PM EST

@hrogerson @FiFantasticfi That sounds like a self imposed workload - does it improve student learning to have more internal exams? #ASEChat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:34 PM EST

@ViciaScience @FiFantasticfi evidence for ofsted and reporting. What's learning got to do with anything? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:34 PM EST

Any priorities and /or issues to communicate to the @theASE Education Group tell me or @ThomasCarlPion #asechat https://t.co/pIksTbSWbJ

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:32 PM EST

@dodiscimus You could suggest this to ASE Education Group (the group formerly known as Assembly) #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:35 PM EST

How do you measure progress at KS3 please? #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:35 PM EST

@Newmanphysics @Mr_Gillett @hrogerson David, do you think that the benefits reaped from their development are worth the input time? #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:35 PM EST

#asechat I am worried about the workload next year. Physically sick thinking about it to be honest.

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

I think that children should be involved in writing their own reports and evaluating their own progress #asechat https://t.co/hHFIfoLldG

PrimaryRocks1 Jan 25 @ 3:35 PM EST

#PrimaryRocks Q3 from @headhighwood https://t.co/EQ4NvelIX0

26Tim Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

@hrogerson @Mr_Gillett @mrthomson We mark every book every lesson, and do now is differentiated DIRT. Works pretty well. #asechat #rag123

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

@hrogerson @ViciaScience @FiFantasticfi *tongue in cheek* Helen? #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

#ASEChat https://t.co/Os5vqvSPm7

GunpowderteaJ Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

@ThomasCarlPion @ViciaScience there's so little shared online for sixth form especially

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

@A_Weatherall end of topic assessments for each and every unit, and an end of year exam. We use old NC levels. #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:36 PM EST

@DoccoMac @Mr_Gillett not when in the reports they say something different. #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:37 PM EST

@hrogerson we are looking at just buying in whatever we can, in terms of schemes of work in a bit of an effort to reduce workload #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:37 PM EST

@A_Weatherall notice what they can and can’t do work on the cants, then when they can they’ve made progress, measure qualitatively #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:37 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @ViciaScience @FiFantasticfi sort of exasperated one! #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:37 PM EST

@hrogerson but it's going to be brutal nonetheless - I think schools need to really be conscious of increased planning times #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:37 PM EST

@JaneWinter115 Is that to improve learning, reduce workload, or both? #ASEChat

FiFantasticfi Jan 25 @ 3:38 PM EST

@mrthomson @hrogerson I priced it up today to reduce workload it is sooooo expensive #asechat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:38 PM EST

@mrthomson @hrogerson Marking last week and found misconceptions I didnt from mocks. Is it value for time? Im quite efficient now #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:38 PM EST

Let me ask this again slightly differently - how do you record attainment (and so measure progress) at KS3 #asechat https://t.co/ICyuzXWQN9

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:35 PM EST

How do you measure progress at KS3 please? #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

@mrthomson activate has been OK to reduce planning, but the key stage 5 scheme is very 'thin'. Worried about GCSE. #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

@Mr_Gillett @hrogerson reading some books to identify misconceptions and addressing the class can (largely) tackle this #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

@mrthomson and increased assessment time? It sounds as though you have a lot of testing. Worthwhile? #ASEChat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

@26Tim @hrogerson @mrthomson That sounds like an unmanageable amount to me. I focus on a few key tasks (6 markers w/yr 11) per week #asechat

ASEpublications Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

Useful advice for secondary science teachers managing all aspects of their job https://t.co/YF1jXerPt5 #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

@A_Weatherall so do you mean, how do you track progress? Thats different to assessing progress #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

@FiFantasticfi @hrogerson would be keen to know what you're looking at! #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

If you had an NQT starting their careers now, what advice would you give them for managing their workload? #ASEChat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

@mrthomson the stuff we bought in 2006 was poor and 2011 was the same stuff as 2006!!! 😡😡#asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 yes, hence the reword. :) #asechat

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

@zbukhari197 @ThomasCarlPion #asechat had A level AQA practical visit recently. It went well will write up points on https://t.co/VoDgGaAriS

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

@hrogerson we've enjoyed Kerboodle - very well resourced. That and exampro for A Level does help for AQA #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

Yes, this is what I meant I'll ask again at end of chat :) #asechat https://t.co/z3CMpX0zqb

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:39 PM EST

@A_Weatherall so do you mean, how do you track progress? Thats different to assessing progress #asechat

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:41 PM EST

Did this with YR & it didn't reduce workload! But supported metagconition/inolvement #asechat #PrimaryRocks https://t.co/62shkcj9ny

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:37 PM EST

@JaneWinter115 Is that to improve learning, reduce workload, or both? #ASEChat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:41 PM EST

@ViciaScience a lot of in-class marking as a whole class, or getting them to mark and understand mark scheme. Can review after #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:41 PM EST

@mrthomson the exam pro stuff is far too expensive for only 70 kids. :-( #asechat

FiFantasticfi Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@mrthomson @hrogerson #asechat pearsons ks3 and 4

Kevinberry03 Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@A_Weatherall You don't. Just make sure they learn stuff. #ASEChat

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat #primaryrocks 1) be organised 2) see 1 3) pace yourself ... you cant tick all the boxes every single lesson

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@ViciaScience expectations in schools are incredibly high; pick and choose the areas to develop. Some have lost concept of trainee! #asechat

SciKathryn Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

#ASEChat Issue in primary is workload from Lit&Num results in many teachers not having time or energy to devote to quality science lessons

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@Kevinberry03 we have to track it - as part of our data schedule. #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:43 PM EST

This could really help allay fears that may exist over 'A level visits' #ASEChat https://t.co/EHs08EHtKi

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:40 PM EST

@zbukhari197 @ThomasCarlPion #asechat had A level AQA practical visit recently. It went well will write up points on https://t.co/VoDgGaAriS

damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:43 PM EST

#asechat Switch off social media when working :-) and give yourself deadlines and stick to them e.g. 9.00pm @ViciaScience

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:43 PM EST

@Kevinberry03 @A_Weatherall ha! I like that response Kevin. Go in to lesson, engage and learn stuff, come out. Repeat. #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

@ViciaScience get a hookey copy of the 2001 exploring science worksheets. (Not the new ones, they are not as nice). #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

Sounds like a good investment in time management and learning insights #ASEChat https://t.co/HzinsVNxRA

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:41 PM EST

@ViciaScience a lot of in-class marking as a whole class, or getting them to mark and understand mark scheme. Can review after #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

@A_Weatherall we track it in the sense that we use our assessments to get an idea of what level they are on #asechat

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

Shame they don't all recognise huge contribution made by high quality science to Eng & Maths #asechat #PrimaryRocks https://t.co/vdYyAxlMxY

SciKathryn Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

#ASEChat Issue in primary is workload from Lit&Num results in many teachers not having time or energy to devote to quality science lessons

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

@ViciaScience Plan your time as carefully as you plan lessons but stick to the time plan!! #asechat

damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

#asechat Invest time in long term planning and medium term plans-develop a detailed scheme of learning to avoid constant prep @ViciaScience

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

#asechat misspelled https://t.co/SvBPsSrg9s

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

@SciKathryn can science be used to support lit and num development? win win? X-curricular links often ignored at sec and prim #aschat

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

@ThomasCarlPion #asechat coolio, got some great new optical rocks for you. Selenite cubes optical fibre lessons https://t.co/rOtaFQeoAZ

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

@mrthomson why you still using levels in post levels world? #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:45 PM EST

Really important to help new teachers recognise they cannot do everything #ASEChat https://t.co/UvrtPJW6tN

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat #primaryrocks 1) be organised 2) see 1 3) pace yourself ... you cant tick all the boxes every single lesson

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:45 PM EST

@A_Weatherall levels, grade descriptors, whatever you want to call them it's all much of a muchness. #asechat

ThomasCarlPion Jan 25 @ 3:45 PM EST

@ViciaScience Indeed. Our A level practical monitoring visit was a very positive experience. #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:45 PM EST

@A_Weatherall provided students understand what they need to do to get better, I don't really care what is used #asechat

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:45 PM EST

But they're not personal, they don't say as much as a well written report IMO. #asechat #PrimaryRocks https://t.co/RvblaDe32D

PrimaryRocks1 Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

A3: Do you think with use of things like Tapestry and @ClassDojo report writing may become a thing of the past? #primaryrocks

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:46 PM EST

We need to protect and nurture our NQTs if they are to replace us in future. #ASEChat https://t.co/xvQ3O6L3Uk

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:42 PM EST

@ViciaScience expectations in schools are incredibly high; pick and choose the areas to develop. Some have lost concept of trainee! #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:46 PM EST

@mrthomson me neither, so long as it makes sense and is easily understood. #asechat

hrogerson Jan 25 @ 3:46 PM EST

@ViciaScience @anhalf feels like we're being asked to. #asechat

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:47 PM EST

Probably the best way for a dept to improve workload-decent plans and collaboration for teachers #asechat https://t.co/ilP5R2qCyL

damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST

#asechat Invest time in long term planning and medium term plans-develop a detailed scheme of learning to avoid constant prep @ViciaScience

SciKathryn Jan 25 @ 3:48 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat Many good teachers are doing this, but I personally think it needs to be approached carefully...

ASEpublications Jan 25 @ 3:49 PM EST

Useful advice for primary science teachers managing all aspects of their job https://t.co/5E2L3Hy0xr #asechat

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:49 PM EST

Very important in current climate of changing curricula - difficult to prioritise in current workload woes #asechat https://t.co/mm5W6hlDoJ

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:47 PM EST
Probably the best way for a dept to improve workload-decent plans and collaboration for teachers #asechat https://t.co/ilP5R2qCyL
- damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST
  
  #asechat Invest time in long term planning and medium term plans-develop a detailed scheme of learning to avoid constant prep @ViciaScience

anhalf Jan 25 @ 3:49 PM EST

@SciKathryn @priscigeeks thank goodness for @PSTT_whyhow and @thease flying flag for science. #asechat with # this time

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:50 PM EST

And actually do it, instead of saying going to do it, but get distracted by work scrutinies or other admin. #asechat https://t.co/sAGctKneFK

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:47 PM EST
Probably the best way for a dept to improve workload-decent plans and collaboration for teachers #asechat https://t.co/ilP5R2qCyL
- damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST
  
  #asechat Invest time in long term planning and medium term plans-develop a detailed scheme of learning to avoid constant prep @ViciaScience

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:50 PM EST

Some workload tips for NQTs #ASEChat https://t.co/ZzjW9tCgGc

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:50 PM EST

@ThomasCarlPion #asechat I will have a look later thanks. https://t.co/JoBTjcshyk Got a guy building me a bismuth levitator at moment

SciKathryn Jan 25 @ 3:51 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat ...so the actual Science content isn't lost in extended writing or used as a flimsy excuse for more lit/num practice

Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:51 PM EST

Important to put time aside for planning and collaboration. Tough with new ks3, ks4, ks5...... #asechat https://t.co/JvnpXlbSNi

mrthomson Jan 25 @ 3:49 PM EST
Very important in current climate of changing curricula - difficult to prioritise in current workload woes #asechat https://t.co/mm5W6hlDoJ
- Mr_Gillett Jan 25 @ 3:47 PM EST
  
  Probably the best way for a dept to improve workload-decent plans and collaboration for teachers #asechat https://t.co/ilP5R2qCyL
  
  damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:44 PM EST
  
  #asechat Invest time in long term planning and medium term plans-develop a detailed scheme of learning to avoid constant prep @ViciaScience

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:51 PM EST

Govt carried out workload survey last year. Here is their analysis of the feedback #ASEChat https://t.co/9O16fhDDma

damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:52 PM EST

#asechat Become a magpie. Collect (once you've sorted a good filing system - that's important although 'search' often does the trick).

missaudsley Jan 25 @ 3:53 PM EST

Tching yr11 chemistry for 1st time tomorrow, so no time for #asechat Learning something about bonding, then marking some tests #workload :-(

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:53 PM EST

Govt response to the workload survey was to set up working groups on marking, planning and data #ASEChat see report https://t.co/NuOMqJfSuL

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:54 PM EST

Try this time management matrix, Urgent and important (or not) to prioritise tasks https://t.co/Fp4xmi7Vpn #asechat (Steven Covey)

damianainscough Jan 25 @ 3:55 PM EST

#asechat ...... @ViciaScience https://t.co/qO292TM5bK

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:55 PM EST

@SciKathryn Mmm , get what you are saying… #pretending to do science! :( #asechat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:56 PM EST

Need to respond to working groups set up by Govt with sci teacher views - any objections to me using tonights discussion? #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Jan 25 @ 3:56 PM EST

@ViciaScience Go for it. #asechat

SciKathryn Jan 25 @ 3:56 PM EST

#asechat all this talk of cross-curric sci reminded me of the fab sci/hist ideas webs u can find here: https://t.co/yUyduk7wYT. @MarcNeesam

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:57 PM EST

@ThomasCarlPion #asechat This guy will cut to any size https://t.co/4GTUSgiO6Y He made this https://t.co/vz6BKSkmAI

CSC_Q4LScience Jan 25 @ 3:57 PM EST

Albert Primary @immersionsci researching the properties of chewing gum > @cscjes #asechat #addcym https://t.co/fUlFJL3zcm

JaneWinter115 Jan 25 @ 3:58 PM EST

started having a look at this. Esp. agree with p9. clarify OFSTED requirements. #asechat #PrimaryRocks https://t.co/m606dG59U7

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:56 PM EST

Need to respond to working groups set up by Govt with sci teacher views - any objections to me using tonights discussion? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Jan 25 @ 3:58 PM EST

@SciKathryn and science - art ideas (no link, sorry) on pigments in paints over the centuries #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Jan 25 @ 3:58 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @SciKathryn #asechat very definitely pretending so often

gregtheseal Jan 25 @ 3:58 PM EST

@ViciaScience top idea. #asechat

Newmanphysics Jan 25 @ 3:59 PM EST

@damianainscough #asechat My vast hordes of resources acquired over the years, do sometimes save me time. Difficult to store them all though