#BadgeChatK12 Archive
#BadgeChatK12 was founded in December, 2014 by a group of educators who are passionate about credentialing learning and achieving. While there are thousands of us around the globe issuing badges to learners, there was not yet a regular twitter chat for those of us in the K-12 space to gather for learning and sharing about badging. After reaching out to leaders in the field (like the good folks at Mozilla and The Badge Alliance) for their thoughts, #BadgeChatK12 was born.
Monday February 22, 2016
6:30 PM EST
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Welcome to ! Let’s get to know each other. What do you teach? Where are you? Do you use badges or just curious?
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I'm Noah in Denver and I'm passionate about credentialing skills and achievements PreK thru Life
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Ben here from CA. Helping teachers map knowledge spaces and recognize achievements with
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Angela here in Ann Arbor/ Chicago. Teacher Educator. Use badges and love to learn about how others use them!
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Katie in Atlanta, in middle school at Currently we are piloting badges w MS teachers. Looking to expand to Ss
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Hi! I'm Chrissy from ATL. I teach science and digital media for middle. We use badges with teachers
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ways to make badges valuable? Have robust badge criteria. Community buy-in.
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Great to have GA well represented tonight!
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:) thank you! tagged me in a post this a.m. That works, since I'm between time zones. Good to see you!
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Alright, let's get to it...question 1 coming up
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Q1: What is the point of Badges having value?
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How to make badges valuable? Depends... Do we mean valuable to the recipient of the badge? To the issuer?
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Important questions there...I'd also ask about the "audience"
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Looking forward to ISTE! Badge Summit looks amazing --great work!
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Sounds cool I'd love to hear more about the pilot you are doing is it for or something else?
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A1 I don't think there's much point with no value for digital badges. Value's a must!
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A1: "Bc you should be intrinsically motivated to learn" isn't good enough response to "why should I care?" Badges need value
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A1: Buy-in from your user. We have struggled with the "What is the point?" question with our teacher pilot
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Yes, we started with a suite of 12 badges (in both digital & physical form) primarily for teacher PD
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Agreed! Buy-in is huge. If users aren't bought in, we're a loud, hard-working tree falling in an empty forest
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A1: The value of a badge is that people can see how an achievement has been attained.
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Yes, and - we have toyed with the idea of "badges as currency." But we wonder about extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation
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OK, we're already flying! Question 2 coming up...
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Q2: How might Badges offer a value proposition/serve as currency?
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Hey all, Carla Casilli here, a founding member of Mozilla’s . I’ve been interested in value for a while. 1/2
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I love how you beat me to the punch on question 2:)
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YAH! So excited to have you join us Carla! [insert bowing down emoticon]
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A1 to engage Ss and aid their motivation
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I agree that value is important, still, it’s necessary to check the desire for prescriptiveness in the larger system. 2/2
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Badges = verifiable skills = job= currency.
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A1 Value is created by the issuer and shared with the recipient.
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A2: If it's aligned with a competency or a standard and if there's an consumer audience that values it. Sorry I'm late!
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For Ts, after ~4 months of badge pilot, we graphed grade level teams' badge #'s and made a competition for big ticket prizes
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Just joining from IN.
R1: Value is very important. I am in the process of creating a Teacher PD badge program.
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Great point...can you say more? Are value and open-endedness inherently at odds?
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How did that impact motivation?
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A2 could transfer value as a gateway to other activities
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Know that you're not alone! Hope you can find support in this community so you don't have to reinvent the wheel
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Awesome! What kind of do you do?
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R1: My Ts enjoyed badges because of individualized PD they could do on their own time..
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Love where you're going with this. What are some ideas you have for that?
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Motivation spiked with prizes offered. Also huge element of accountability to your grade level team, with scoreboard
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discuss with Ss beforehand what they have for ideas 1/2
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I take an ecosystem view of badges—that includes all sort of badges. Understanding value = understanding context
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WOOOOW. beautiful!! How do teachers who earn your badges display evidence?
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Nice! What does sustainability look like moving forward?
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Yes! Individualized is so important. We found we need to provide time. "Their own time" doesn't exist as much
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I want to give badges the meaning and value they deserve. But, I had to start somewhere.
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Q2. I add value to T's badges by making them challenging to earn, providing feedback to ensure success
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It’s difficult to know where value will lie in an evolving system. What an issuer wants is ≠ what an earner or consumer wants
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Love your start! And grateful that you're sharing it with us!
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We pay $500 for them to do 12 hours of PD.. EAch badge I offered was worth 2 hrs.
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2/2 relate these to study area - maybe a visit to a theme park
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Ts display with hanging up their completion certificates & in their email signature.
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I don't know yet. Playing with the idea of continuing experiment w our teacher pilot before moving to student pilot
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good work! getting a program off the ground is challenging --
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Great points! Any models we should look to for finding a better nexus btwn issuer/earner desires?
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That's really smart. I can see it helping with public awareness of internal capacity
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I like this Wittgenstein said the meaning of words exists in relation to other words - like chess pieces
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That's a lotta cash! Do you get the sense that some T's 'go thru motions' w/o really learning just to get the $$?
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A2. For T pd, perhaps adding external "value" by aligning with Learning Forward standards & local value
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Sweet! Definitely good way to display badges, but how do they display what they did to EARN the badges?
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open dialogue with Ss to establish fit with all parties
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Question 3 coming up, though I think some already touching on it...
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Q3: What are important considerations for Badge currency?
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Honestly I can't do anything about that. They will eventually fall to far behind.
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I agree Chris. In APS, we started by asking ss who they wanted to endorse Badges
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I challenge the idea of lightweight/ meaningless badges. Am I who you say I am or am I who I say I am? https://t.co/yUSqT0ibiy
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one issue here is that there is a need to ensure prizes are of value to all engaged
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Each badge has a set of parameters that anyone can look up and complete.
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. Agreed. There are many stakeholders to a badge.
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So glad you said that! "lightweight" is really going to vary by the person and can be dangerous in this space
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No doubt. Not sure about how sustainable offering monetary 'prizes' is in the long term, either
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I like the idea of formative value morphing into summative. Be recognized for achievements, track progress, align to goals
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So evidence isn't public but the criteria is and your validation that it's met is trusted, yes?
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badges come in many forms & include certificates from external stakeholders e.g involvement in …. 1/2
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I think I get you here. Formative can be more granular, modular. They add up/level up to summative?
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Yes, My admin trust I know enough to check off on saying the Ts have completed the badge.
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A quick question 4 before we bid farewell...
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2/2 …. raising funds for charity / taking part in work placements etc…
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Q4: What are your takeaways from this week's chat?
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Also, a quick plug for the Badge Summit 6/24 in Colorado (right before ). Hope you'll join us! https://t.co/oXzOJgsZxm
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Can you say more about your thinking... formative morphing into summative?
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Excellent currency question. Connecting Credentials is working toward a common—not universal—language for credentials
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Possible, but I think it's more about internal significance vs. external "cash out" value
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Agree regarding sustainability issues - who funds “prizes” and how long will they be offered?
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Do you have any materials on how to build such beautiful badge images?
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FYI, next week, we'll be back here on twitter w guest mod !
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1/2 formative= assessment FOR learning: "here's how you're doing..". Those badges often mean little to outsiders
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Thank you! I am excited to guest mod along w colleague We love learning & chatting about badges
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Thanks to all the regular BadgeChatters, new folks who dropped by and to the lurkers, we value you and are glad you came!
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Looking forward to next week
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2/2 Summative=did you achieve the overall goal. I apply this to transferability of the badge to a new audience
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Currency comes from exchange value, and we’re still early on in explaining how/where beneficial. 1/2
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I’d say that we’re in the unknown-unknowns stage of where possibilities of badge value and value appreciation might arise.
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Agree does the badge have a lasting value or does it have just a fleeting existence?
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To Carla's earlier point, I hope there's room for both lasting and fleeting. Who are we to say...
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And here were are back to the perceived value of the badge to the Ss & ultimately they decide
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Thanks for hosting tonight’s BTW now 12.15am here so off to bed - good night all.
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here is a good resource of standards I might relate my badges to. To make them more powerful. https://t.co/p3TkgQSZYX
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3/2 (!) I think u can morph from formative>summative, but it's not just a linear - can be semi-permeable membranes
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Good night everyone! Thanks for joining!
