#formativechat Archive

Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.

Monday June 18, 2018
7:30 PM EDT

  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us, Josh! #formativechat
    In reply to @josh_giudicelli
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    This is a wonderfully welcoming chat to join! #formativechat Welcome!
    In reply to @josh_giudicelli
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    So ready for #formativechat tonight! I’ve been away from edchats for a few weeks but the last week of school has me inspired to get back in
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Seth here from WA. Recently minted ELA Interventionist. #formativechat
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Ready for the #formativechat tonight! #edu5213SBU
  • MarisaEThompson Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hey #formativechat! Marisa Thompson, HS ELA, Carlsbad, Ca :) Self-advocacy turned out to be my year & I'm proud of the totally unintended result: biggest growth gained from student-reflection/survey? Students' confidence! KEY to self-advocacy! Excited to read people's thoughts!
  • DMooreSpanish Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hi #formativechat Danielle from Chicago
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Welcome! You picked a great chatbyo start with! #formativechat
    In reply to @MariaHagen105, @melissa_mulieri
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hello #formativechat! Noel, ELA teacher from NC ready to chat tonight.
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    #formativechat starts NOW!
  • timlriley Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hello everyone. Tim in Nebraska #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Michael from Edinburgh here #formativechat
  • ksuss9 Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! I’m Kara from St. Louis, MO. I teach High School FACS. #edu5213sbu #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Hey everyone! David here! I am excited to be co-hosting #formativechat tonight alongside, @Rdene915 ! Let's get started !
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Brian from IL...did not forget tonights #formativechat
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Meredith jumping in to #formativechat to learn from all of you about student self-advocacy!
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Welcome Michael! #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    HI Tim :) #formativechat
    In reply to @timlriley
  • KalchbrennerELA Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Hi #formativechat! Andrea from Chicago! : )
  • ebrewington1s Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    hi everyone! I'm Betsy from St.Louis MO; Special Education Teacher 5th and 6th grade #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    We are ready tochat with you! #formativechat
    In reply to @noel_hoffmann
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Hey peeps ! Whose headed to #ISTE18 this year? We'd love to have a #formativechat meet up! @davidwkwan & @Rdene915 will be there!
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Yessssss! #formativechat
    In reply to @goformative
  • RealAdamLevine7 Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Hey everyone, Adam from Sacramento here! #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Hey Danielle, am I meeting you next week? :) #formativechat
    In reply to @DMooreSpanish
  • schnekser Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Becky from VA! #formativechat
  • MaizKelly1 Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    This is my first time joining! I am excited to be here! #READ5305 #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Hello, again, #formativechat! I’ve been away for a few weeks, but ready to go tonight! I’m a HS ELA teacher
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Thanks for saying so, Nicholas! #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @josh_giudicelli
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Welcome, Seth! #formativechat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Congratulations! What an amazing position! #formativechat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Nathan — Vice President, treasurer and head cheerleader #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    That is awesome, glad to have you join us tonight #formativechat
    In reply to @MarisaEThompson
  • amber_barwell Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    #formativechat is happening right now
    In reply to @MsMapleBaxter
  • LaurenPorosoff Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Hello #formativechat! Lauren from NY - I teach 6th grade English and write about empowering students and teachers to make school meaningful.
  • vendi55 Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Dean V Math/Science Education Leader and proud @goformative certified education from Regina, SK, Canada. #formativechat
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Q1 is now up in our weekly #formativechat ! What are the main barriers that Ss face in advocating for their own needs?
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
      Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A1 A lack of adults and peers willing to listen and interesting in listening. #formativechat
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A1 Confidence that there voice will be heard, relevant, and meaningful So many Ss are reluctant to take that first step #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Woo-hoo! Awesome, we need a meetup and a photo :) #formativechat
    In reply to @KalchbrennerELA, @goformative, @davidwkwan, @DMooreSpanish, @mdeegan122
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Me too! How do I do this? Can we talk about new learning techniques? #formativechat #sbpdchat
    In reply to @josh_giudicelli
  • schnekser Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A1: they don’t know what they need #formativechat
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Leading the "cheers!" #formativechat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Glad to have you join in #formativechat
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Welcome Mr. Segall! Glad to hear that you are feeling inspired! #formativechat
    In reply to @mrsegall
  • Blended_Math Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Ray from Rhode Island here. A1-I think that learned helplessness is a big barrier. Students are used to adults not listening to them, so they learn not to advocate for themselves. #formativechat
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A1: Lack of understanding of how learning works. Ss often don't know what their needs are. #formativechat
  • loliveira55 Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Hello everyone. My name is Luis and I’m an ELL HS teacher, tech coach, and director from RI. #formativechat
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A1 being able to verbally state their needs #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Can I get in on this as well? LOL! New to educational chatting! #formativechat #sbpdchat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @josh_giudicelli
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    Hey Roxanne! Glad you could join us tonight! #formativechat
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @Rdene915 and @davidwkwan hosting a chat on student self-advocacy. Follow along at #formativechat! @goformative
  • MarisaEThompson Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1 Tradition, over-scaffolding, detailed rubrics --> This is how I get an A. Well-meaning teachers answer Qs instead of supporting skills: finding, attempting, applying, learning. When Ss train to complete & receive, there's no need to reflect or self-advocate. #formativechat
  • timlriley Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1. Lack of confidence that anyone will listen #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    that seems a very narrow view, perhaps they haven't heard the right question. #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    ...or, when they do, how to get there #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser
  • RealAdamLevine7 Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: In my experience, students are afraid to advocate for themselves because they are coming from homes in which they are talked down to if they stand up for themselves. #formativechat
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: Often, they feel that they will not be listened to, or will be judged. Also, sometimes, they are unsure of how to approach the teacher or the subject. #formativechat
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1. Students not feeling trust with their teacher-- that they won't be listened to/heard and will be embarrassed. They will shut down completely. #formativechat #ALPLEARN
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Welcome back! #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • KalchbrennerELA Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: A lot of them don't know how b/c they've never had to do it before or they truly don't know what they need b/c they haven't been taught how to self-assess yet. #formativechat
  • chad_kinslow Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: One of the biggest barriers that students face is understanding that their voice is important! They are allowed to have different opinions than parents/teachers and should let them know when they do #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Of which organization? #formativechat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • ebrewington1s Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: feeling like they are not supported.. or how to ask for what they need.#formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    That's so awesome Marisa! We are excited to learn from you tonight! #formativechat
    In reply to @MarisaEThompson
  • KristenSevinsky Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: that they’ve learned how to do “school” so long- answering the questions the teachers have deemed important in the way the t want, when they want, and sitting in the seat the t put them. They don’t know what they need let alone how to begin to ask for it. #formativechat
  • ksuss9 Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: They don't always know what they need! #edu5213sbu #formativechat
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Hey #formativechat! Louie from Lancaster, PA. Moving to Philly this summer to teach 5th Grade in the fall. Excited to learn and grow with you.
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Hi #formativechat It's been a while since my last join. Glad to be able to make it today.
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A1: Some Ss don’t self-advocate bc they don’t have a rapport with a T. I’m interested in Ss who don’t identify with a “struggling” label (ex. IEP) and self-advocating, for them, may feel like saying “I’m stupid; I need help” rather than “Here’s what I need.” #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
      Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Apologies ahead of time for lack of spacing between words and typos, #formativechat
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A1. Speaking what's on their minds is scary and their voices shake. #Formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    so true, and we definitely need to encourage and support Ss in taking those steps #formativechat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Hey Kara! Welcome! #formativechat
    In reply to @ksuss9
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    The #Rachellefanclub #formativechat or soon the be known as the #RachelleRangers
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • TelfordAmy Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A1 #formativechat Ss are not well-informed about possibilities such as new careers, necessary skills, and how to prepare for adult life.
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • DMooreSpanish Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A1 I think a lot of Ss are used to the way things are "supposed to be" so they tend to not speak up #formativechat
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A1 if a S is dyslexic it is very hard to advocate an unfunded federal mandate if the school or district does not have the money to provide help. Or if providing help, it is not lawful, meaning not a program taught with fidelity and for the dyslexic brain. #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @goformative
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Hey Brian! Great to see you as always! #formativechat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • vendi55 Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A1 Traditional and archaic constraints such as time, grades, and teaching practices. They have never seen this modeled. School has been something done to them rather than for them. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
      Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Welcome Ray! #formativechat
    In reply to @Blended_Math
  • LaurenPorosoff Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A1 My students’ main barriers to advocating for their needs are (1) fear and (2) not knowing the difference between wants and needs. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Hey Luis :) #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Awesome, glad you could join us tonight Meredith! #formativechat
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Exactly correct! You explained it perfectly. #formativechat
    • KristenSevinsky Jun 18 @ 7:35 PM EDT
      A1: that they’ve learned how to do “school” so long- answering the questions the teachers have deemed important in the way the t want, when they want, and sitting in the seat the t put them. They don’t know what they need let alone how to begin to ask for it. #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1 They lack, in their mind, a safe environment. #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Hey Adam, welcome to #formativechat !
    In reply to @RealAdamLevine7
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    I think Ss also know that some Ts will do the hard work for them if they wait long enough. Instead of empowering Ss, sometimes we unintentionally stunt their growth when we prematurely intervene #formativechat
    In reply to @Blended_Math
  • MootsSamantha Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1. Not knowing how to speak up for themselves and learning how to make decisions on their own. Problem-solving. #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    I teach band in NJ. I foster self-advocacy by letting students determine which scales they are comfortable working on that they need for their music. I let them determine their best to play for me in assessments. Is that self-advocacy in subject area? #formativechat #sbpdchat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • teacherstenger Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Understanding what their needs are. We have so many terms and accommodations (for SpEd) that Ss can sometimes be painfully unaware of the services they receive. Educating Ss to ask for what they need and know the materials they get is a big step. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
      Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Welcome Becky! #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Agreed, and that is why starting with relationships is key #formativechat
    In reply to @MaizKelly1
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1: Many times student’s don’t think their voices will be heard. So they elect to stay quiet. Whether it’s a learned behavior or inherent nature not we can work to teach them to start #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Oh my, that is a lot of hashtags #formativechat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1 finding the right medium to share their needs on #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    We are so happy to have you back! #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Your post Dean spotlights why we need change in education...the old way will not meet the needs of today's students #formativechat
    In reply to @vendi55
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1- lack of adult support outside of the classroom or the thought of their peers thinking they are “stupid” or not good enough. They care so much about what others think. #formativechat #edu5213SBU
  • josh_giudicelli Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A1: Students don't always know what they need and if they can't articulate what is missing they will likely not say anything at all. Building bridges can help overcome this, but sometimes its not enough. #formativechat
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Agree. Such skills and expectations need to be explicitly taught and communicated. #formativechat
    In reply to @KalchbrennerELA
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Even in just 6th grade, Ss have this ingrained in them from elem. that questions are supposed to be just about class. So many Ss afraid to speak for themselves and "offtopic" #formativechat #ALPLEARN
    In reply to @KristenSevinsky
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Lisa Scumpieru, Digital Integration Specialist for @wcpsmd Hagerstown, Md. #formativechat — Sorry I’m a little late. :)
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1. This past year, I had several middle school students who were very resistant to new ways of learning. The new changes were by en large AMAZING, but had to fight to remember all the positive and LEARNING that was actually happening! #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
      Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Hi #formativechat I am Sergio from NJ. Band director, middle school #sbpdchat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    we definitely need to provide resources and information and make ourselves available #formativechat
    In reply to @TelfordAmy
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    This is so true. When they don’t feel engaged or empowered, they don’t want to (or don’t know how to) engage with their own learning #formativechat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Hello #formativechat - sorry to be late. Phiona
  • KimberlyWeible Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Having students set personal goals and reflect on the progress they are making at reaching their goals is a great way to foster student self-advocacy. #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Good to see you Lisa! #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru, @wcpsmd
  • MariaHagen105 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1 It’s difficult to stand up to a system you don’t have much power in. What happens when we ask students to anonymously state needs? @melissa_mulieri #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1: Ss have trouble advocating for their own needs when they feel like they must be perfect on the first try. They don’t see the success in the struggle or failures. #formativechat
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    In short... Resistance to change. #formativechat
    • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
      A1. This past year, I had several middle school students who were very resistant to new ways of learning. The new changes were by en large AMAZING, but had to fight to remember all the positive and LEARNING that was actually happening! #formativechat
      • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
        Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • herrplatt Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Hi #formativechat, David from Covina, CA. Glad to jump in briefly!
    In reply to @goformative
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Excited to be here! #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • cpoole27 Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1: Often times Ss don’t advocate for themselves bc they don’t believe they can. When we support them they will speak up #formativechat
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A1: Ss often need better critical thinking skills. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    true,it is that vulnerability piece, admitting a weakness, asking for help can be perceived as weakness but it is actually strength #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Unfortunately, it’s easier not to make your own decisions and float along with the crowd #formativechat
    In reply to @MootsSamantha
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Learning to listen is a difficult skill and can definitely present a barrier #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Well that is because you are famous on so many level #formativechat #RachelleRangers #Rachellefanclub
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • cpoole27 Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Hey everyone Chuck here from NJ hope everyone is doing well! #formativechat
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Yes! Or else they’ll just end their journey on the first thing they think of #formativechat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A1: Many Ss have difficulty advocating for their own learning because they may not have the language to describe what they need to do in order to succeed. #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    So true. If they are taught to speak for themselves and be “off topic”, Ss will truly learn what it means to be a life-long learner and be inquisitive. #formativechat
    • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:38 PM EDT
      Even in just 6th grade, Ss have this ingrained in them from elem. that questions are supposed to be just about class. So many Ss afraid to speak for themselves and "offtopic" #formativechat #ALPLEARN
      In reply to @KristenSevinsky
  • holliewood24 Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A1) Because we have not given students an opportunity to be active participants in their own learning, they are often unaware of their own needs and as a result incapable of advocating for them. #formativechat
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Yes. It's our job to make sure they know we are their advocates. This is tough for some to internalize and understand. #formativechat
    In reply to @timlriley
  • loliveira55 Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A1 For many of my Ells it is cultural. The teacher speaks and the students listen in many of their coutries. Self advocation is seen as being disruptive so that is a challenge. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Hi David, thanks for joining! #formativechat
    In reply to @herrplatt, @goformative
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    I agree, we need to help students discover what they need. #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser
  • herrplatt Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A1: this is a good question. In my experience the biggest hurdles they have are themselves. They don’t know how to advocate for themselves. They weren’t taught it and can’t express it well. #formativechat
    In reply to @goformative
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    I think main barriers include pressures of grades, the specific expectations of teachers that vary between classrooms and can be confusing. Also, the social pressures outside the classroom forcing kids into a mold. First time here, hope that makes sense. #formativechat #sbpdchat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Yes. Ss know that there are times if they wait long enough, they don’t have to advocate or act or learn. Ss-Ts rapport is key in breaking out of that rut #formativechat
    In reply to @MarisaEThompson
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    “I need _____ to improve and move forward” - instead of “help” #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @NAEmmanuele
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A1: Another factor is that students do not know the purpose. When purpose is lacking, how could one advocate for themselves? #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    This is what bothers me, it starts with us leading a change in thinking, modeling risks and failures, breaking that thinking pattern #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    I'm noticing a pattern of different types of "fear" for Q1. Students' (and anyone's) own fears often stop us from doing what we need to do. #formativechat
    In reply to @noel_hoffmann
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    terrific response and reflective thinking #formativechat
    In reply to @alisonkis
  • MaizKelly1 Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    I completely agree. How do we get students to realize what they need and share it with us? #READ5305 #formativechat
    In reply to @KristenSevinsky
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    Right now she is not doing enough, tech troubles, struggle is real :) #formativechat
    In reply to @DMooreSpanish, @nathan_stevens
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    Great thought - I would like to see how this translates for Ss in terms of teaching them the language. #formativechat
    • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
      A1: Many Ss have difficulty advocating for their own learning because they may not have the language to describe what they need to do in order to succeed. #formativechat
  • herrplatt Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A1.2: this isn’t to say they can’t learn it but then we as Ts become a barrier if we don’t help them along the way. #formativechat
    In reply to @goformative
  • RealAdamLevine7 Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    we really need to teach our student HOW to question what they are told. #formativechat
    In reply to @herrplatt, @goformative
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    No worries, glad you are here #formativechat
    In reply to @PLloydHenry
  • Jazden1004 Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A1: Fear of feeling embarrassed... #formativechat
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    With the support of her faithful fan club #RachelleRangers #formativechat #Rachellefanclub
    In reply to @DMooreSpanish, @Rdene915
  • MarisaEThompson Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A2 Daily discussions (https://t.co/9qFbkhS7Vs), Writing Stations with Feedback embedded (https://t.co/RxlbGY6oTc), Writing feedback as Qs, Grade Conferences (https://t.co/uOofIb8oph). We can model by asking for feedback from students at the end of each unit, too! #formativechat
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Love that image there on the chalkboard. Relationship building helps the student buy in to the instruction. Makes the student think there is care and concern before grades and assessments. #formativechat #sbpdchat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @MaizKelly1
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Yes; we as Ts need to stop calling it “help” as well. Ss need guidance and clarification. “Help” implies a deficit and Ss don’t want to admit a deficit #formativechat
    In reply to @mrsegall, @Rdene915
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    there is comfort in being anonymous, and then create opps for Ss to buld confidence in sharing perspectives #formativechat
    In reply to @MariaHagen105, @melissa_mulieri
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Well-stated, Robert. #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Agreed! The part about being well meaning definitely resonates with me. It's easy to caught up putting a lot of effort into something and take a risk to switch gears. #formativechat
    In reply to @MarisaEThompson
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A1: Many Ts may not engage Ss in co-constructing learning goals &/or success criteria, many may not give descriptive feedback that includes those criteria & therefore, Ss may be at a disadvantage when they need to describe any challenges/gaps that they have. #formativechat
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Q2 is coming up in #formativechat!
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Understanding that it is ok to fail, build from it, and strive for improvement and mastery. #formativechat #ALPLEARN
    In reply to @Rdene915, @LScumpieru
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    me too, one of my favorite quotes, #formativechat
    In reply to @MrSouthBand1, @MaizKelly1
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Students need to be taught specific language for communication. Don't assume. Have sentence stems help foster this habit of mind. #formativechat
    In reply to @PLloydHenry
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    One of my biggest bad habits was a short wait time & then answer for my Ss Ts need to be patient & model for our Ss #formativechat
    In reply to @RealAdamLevine7, @herrplatt, @goformative
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    There are often social pressures to either be "perfect" or "cool," which get in the way of student learning. These are both pressures we should strive to understand, but fight through to promote learning. #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    What are your tech troubles? #formativechat #RachelleRangers
    In reply to @Rdene915, @DMooreSpanish
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    Guidance and clarification are great words! Or support sounds accessible too #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @Rdene915
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    I really like this "co-constructing" definitely need more ways for Ss to interact w/peers and with Ts in the classroom, builds a lot of vital skills #formativechat
    In reply to @PLloydHenry
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    Yes, that pattern must be broken and a new mindset given from the start. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
      This is what bothers me, it starts with us leading a change in thinking, modeling risks and failures, breaking that thinking pattern #formativechat
      In reply to @LScumpieru
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A stronger rapport creates a relationship rather than only the T telling or the S asking. It becomes more conversation #formativechat
    In reply to @Blended_Math
  • mrfieldmanchs Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    True, which is why we must faciillate Ss in learning how to use their voice for advocacy #formativechat
    • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:39 PM EDT
      A1: Many Ss have difficulty advocating for their own learning because they may not have the language to describe what they need to do in order to succeed. #formativechat
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    So true. Many students with learning differences, do not even realize they have a problem. Or if they do, they don't have the words and courage to tell their leadership or teachers. #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @schnekser
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Is there room to ask them what they want to learn? Obviously we are bound to our subject areas. But can't we ask what interests THEM within the content and teach to that? #formativechat
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Hi #formativechat ! My name is Lauren and I am a second year student in the elementary ed program at the university of regina! First time here but happy to be!
  • chad_kinslow Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Great point! #formativechat
    • RealAdamLevine7 Jun 18 @ 7:41 PM EDT
      we really need to teach our student HOW to question what they are told. #formativechat
      In reply to @herrplatt, @goformative
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    I agree as well. Self-advocacy goes against the traditional method of the T figuring out what's right for the student. #formativechat
    In reply to @KalchbrennerELA
  • LaurenPorosoff Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Even though the top performers in every field are the people who ask for the most help, help-seeking is seen as a sign of weakness or stupidity. We need to destigmatize and elevate help-seeking. #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2, @noel_hoffmann
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    My Mac broke on the 6th, shipped out to get fixed, using old netbook, got Mac back, won't charge, they sent a charger today and no cable, so still no Mac :( #formativechat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @DMooreSpanish
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A2: Teach them how to effectively set personal learning goals. #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    I find it wrong that you use difference equating to problem. #formativechat
    In reply to @bigcitydyslexic, @schnekser
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Ohhh... This is great! We need to model the language our students do not yet use. Sometimes we jump over this step and exptect our Ss to inherently know this vocab. #formativechat
    In reply to @PLloydHenry
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    If we engage Ss in co-constructing learning goals and success criteria & give descriptive feedback that captures what Ss did well and what they need to work on, then Ss will develop the metacognitive skills they need to reflect on & describe their learning #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Yes, I do a lot of project-based learning and my ELL Ss are taken a back by this because it is not the traditional way of teaching. It takes time. #formativechat
    • loliveira55 Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM EDT
      A1 For many of my Ells it is cultural. The teacher speaks and the students listen in many of their coutries. Self advocation is seen as being disruptive so that is a challenge. #formativechat
  • jmfassnacht Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A1 #formativechat students do not necessarily know what they need. They may need help figuring that out.
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • schnekser Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A2: relationships and sincerity—I feel that without those, you are lost. I often model thinking and problem solving strategies for Ss to show them my struggle and have them help me #formativechat
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Thanks for sharing this. This gets us thinking. What can self advocacy look like? Does it have to be vocal? What are different ways of responses that we can encourage students to "voice" themselves? #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Great answer! #formativechat
    • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM EDT
      There are often social pressures to either be "perfect" or "cool," which get in the way of student learning. These are both pressures we should strive to understand, but fight through to promote learning. #formativechat
      In reply to @LScumpieru
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    I have seen this cultural difference as well. They have to be taught that it is encouraged here. It is still uncomfortable for them, though. #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2 SLOW DOWN!!! When Ts focus on curriculum & burdens of regulations we forget that Ss need time and patience If we slow down & set a good tone Ss will grow and respond #formativechat
  • herrplatt Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: start w/ day one by valuing their input and that they have a voice in how and what they learn and how they will showcase what they’ve learned. #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Q2 is now up in #formativechat? How can we foster a learning environment where students feel comfortable expressing their needs?
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: Relationships with students are key. We’ve got to do the work at the beginning of the school year to see the benefits #formativechat
  • Blended_Math Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2 -Foster a growth mindset and make mistakes a positive part of the learning process. I also make sure and thank my Ss every time they ask me a question and always tell them it was a good question. #formativechat
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    So true! I definitely felt this way when I was a kid, but have learned that collaboration and vulnerability as an adult are so valuable! #formativechat
    In reply to @LaurenPorosoff, @noel_hoffmann
  • KristenSevinsky Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: include the in every step of the process as much as you can. What do you want to learn? How can we show that we learn that? When do you think you’ll be finished with learning task? What do you need to complete task and learn? How can I help you do that? #formativechat
  • cclark421 Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A1 sometimes it’s fear/embarrassment of needing help. Sometimes it is also that Ss over estimate their abilities and don’t realize they need help until it’s too late https://t.co/VCWzrAC4pb #formativechat
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Yikes #RachelleRangers #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @DMooreSpanish
  • RealAdamLevine7 Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: It all begins with fostering a relationship with the student so that they feel comfortable talking to us. If students are comfortable with us, they are more likely to advocate their needs. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    that is very true, often say, how do you know, what you don't know, until you know that you don't know it...is that how it goes? #formativechat
    In reply to @jmfassnacht
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A1: #formativechat they don't know what they need or how to determine/express their needs!
  • teacherstenger Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    By showing yourself to be a T who will listen to their Ss. Most times Ss have a hard time advocating if they know you are simply going to dismiss them. Consistency and strong relationships built at atmosphere of respect. #formativechat
  • chad_kinslow Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: RELATIONSHIPS! If students don't feel comfortable with you they won't express themselves to you! #formativechat
  • Jazden1004 Jun 18 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A2: AM & PM Class Meetings and regular social-emotional learning time, addressing this very issue... possibly including role play... #formativechat
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    Precisely - this will increase their ability to reflect on and make the types of changes they need to make in order to achieve greater success. #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    Right. I make it a point to talk about how the students who are the most successful in my classes come to tutoring. It has to be reiterated quite a bit. #formativechat
    In reply to @LaurenPorosoff, @mr_middle_2
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    When Ss are valued they feel relevant which will make them more prone to take some risks #formativechat
    In reply to @herrplatt, @davidwkwan
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2: Let them know from the start that learning something is very much like training for a sport: it takes perseverance and practice. From the start talk about growth mindset. #formativechat
  • DavidJLockett Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2. Relationships are an essential part of any learning process. #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2 Admit to being imperfect, admit to not knowing everything, highlight when you learn something new, be grateful of patience #formativechat
  • holliewood24 Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2) Give them an opportunity to practice asking for knowledge...even if it is off topic. I did a day where I said, what do you need to know before you graduate? It started with balancing a checkbook, lead to french braiding, and then ended with semicolon use! #formativechat
  • josh_giudicelli Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    In order to foster a learning environment where students feel comfortable expressing needs teachers need to build relationships with all of their students and answer all questions honestly and sincerely. #formativechat
  • MootsSamantha Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2. Fostering a learning environment that is safe, comfortable and supportive. Earning trust. #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2- be open, honest and vulnerable ourselves. I find that if I tell a story or listen to all types of music I’m opening that door for those conversations to come up. I was diagnosed with leukemia in August and have been out of the classroom this whole year. #formativechat
  • ebrewington1s Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2: We need to build that relationship with Ss. We also need to teach them that its okay to be wrong. #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • vendi55 Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A2 - Definitely foster positive relationships, focus on learning, allow for a variety of ways to show understanding, emphasis growth mindset, model, celebrate mistakes, try innovative ideas #formativechat
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    This is awesome, Becky. I similarly shared fails that I've had and how I worked to change my approach and overcome them. #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2. By allowing student voice and choice in the classroom, students are comfortable with expressing their needs. You must build to this, or most students will not feel they have a platform to express their voices. #formativechat
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2: Start by working to form strong relationships with your ss so that they feel comfortable talking to you. It all boils down to those relationships! #formativechat
  • KalchbrennerELA Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2: It needs to be practiced daily through personal reflection & feeback for the T too. Have a dialogue WITH Ss instead of AT Ss about how the lesson went & what they need. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Love this as well #formativechat
    In reply to @chad_kinslow
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2 Providing reassurance that you are there for them and that this is a safe area where we can question, think, and inspire one another. It MUST start Day 1 and continue until last day #formativechat #ALPLEARN
    In reply to @goformative
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    If we want Ss to question we must be learns along side of them Promote #LifeLongLearner mentality to set a good tone in class #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Right on! I wish the students would ask more questions. It opens up exploration and lets them feel comfortable investigating their needs. Inquiry has to be redefined as a sign of strength! #formativechat #sbpdchat
    In reply to @LaurenPorosoff, @mr_middle_2, @noel_hoffmann
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Model the behavior of needing support or guidance from somebody else. How easy would this be to ‘fake’ with a colleague for student buy in? #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • herrplatt Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2.2: lots of ways to help Ss along the way. I’d advocate for introducing choice boards to give students choice in their voice #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Thank you so much! I appreciate the support! #teacherssupportingteachers #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • cclark421 Jun 18 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A2 extensive modeling is important especially metacognition skills. Also helping Ss understand themselves as learners, embrace their current skills and set reasonable goals to move forward #formativechat
  • MarisaEThompson Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A3 I'm HS ELA, so we compare writing with previous essays. Ss love a group paragraph exercise; it leads to those conversations. Maybe before feedback station, Ss can identify their successes/questions. Playlists tailor instruction to individual needs = summer goal! #formativechat
  • nathan_stevens Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2 have feedback points at various points where students can feel comfortable stating purpose and what is happening #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • CoachHolleyT Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A1: Based on my experiences, the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs include the lack of systems in place for students to have a voice and students not being encouraged to use their voice to advocate for themselves and others #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    Welcome Lauren! Glad you chose #formativechat!
    In reply to @miss_lsauser
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    So true, definitely need to persevere and push through challenges, productive struggles #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2: We can openly value the learning process - rather than focusing totally on the end product/conversation/observation alone as proof of learning. #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    So true! To add on to this, I think it's also about switching up the approach when re-teaching. Show Ss different ways to learn and allow them to recognize what's working for them. #formativechat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    Have you use #cooperative #learning? Key is success for all is needed for individual success and academic success is not all. #formativechat
  • DMooreSpanish Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2 Ts have to build relationships it's also important to build in time to check in with Ss individually and give feedback. #formativechat
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2 cont.- my students have watched me struggle, lose my hair and see me overcome a huge battle. I wouldn’t be here without my #fetschsfighters and they know that. Being open and sharing has made an HUGE impact on my teaching & classroom #formativechat #edu5213SBU
  • LaurenPorosoff Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A2 We have an activity in chapter 4 of EMPOWER Your Students that teaches students to distinguish between status goals and learning goals, identify sources of help in pursuing their learning goals, and effectively ask for that help. These are all learnable skills. #formativechat
  • MariaHagen105 Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    Many students who are English speaking and from the US are taught to follow adults as well. #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    I agree. Teaching and showing them that mistakes and being wrong is part of life and shouldn't be feared is important! #formativechat
    In reply to @ebrewington1s
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    I think we need to also rephrase for some of our Ss. Instead of “See me for help,” maybe we could ask “What do you need?” Rapport fits in here so we develop conversations to progress learning and provide natural openings for self-advocacy #formativechat
    In reply to @LaurenPorosoff, @mr_middle_2, @noel_hoffmann
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    This is going to be some series of events to look back on... There is a light at the end of the tunnel! Maybe not until after #ISTE18, but it's there, nevertheless! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @nathan_stevens, @DMooreSpanish
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2. This article https://t.co/PtFGVbVFL3 shares many ideas of how to meet student needs. This one is also exceptional https://t.co/R6C9TnNaP7 #formativechat
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2 Cont. We must model this, provide guided practice, and build relationships EVERY day. This isn't just a one and done thing. #formativechat #ALPLEARN
    In reply to @goformative
  • ksuss9 Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2: I give students a "get to know you" sheet on the first day. One of the questions says, "my teacher can help me learn best by _____" I get some great responses from students! #edu5213sbu #formativechat
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2: Make the atmosphere one where students are encouraged to give the teacher feedback and to discuss issues without judgement. Foster a growth mindset and illustrate times that you have had to advocate for yourself as a student or as an adult. #formativechat
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Yes! It's important to showcase student learning and teach Ss how to analyze and discuss it. #formativechat
    In reply to @herrplatt, @davidwkwan
  • cpoole27 Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A2: When we build a foundation of trust within the class, the relationships that follow will help foster Ss comfort overall #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Yes, also allowing Ss to redo their formative assessments allows them to see that learning is cyclical, not final. #formativechat
    • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:48 PM EDT
      A2: We can openly value the learning process - rather than focusing totally on the end product/conversation/observation alone as proof of learning. #formativechat
      In reply to @davidwkwan
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    That's so true. It's more about the journey than the destination for sure but we need to really show ss that! #formativechat
    In reply to @PLloydHenry, @davidwkwan
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Absolutely agree, and planning diff activities, engaging in conversations, builds that solid support system Ss need #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Consider using Teacher Empathy Map when design any activity to build student's capacity for advocating for themselves. https://t.co/dbMGftDeJj #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    oh goodness, don't say that ;) #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2, @nathan_stevens, @DMooreSpanish
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Q3 is coming up in #formativechat soon!
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Absolutely - it's also a great way to build community as you honour different voices, democratize the learning space and model the creation or construction of new learning. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • MariaHagen105 Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Is it possible to hold onto those relationships throughout the years that students are in the same building if not classroom as the teacher they trust? #formativechat
    In reply to @mrsegall
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    I love edutopia and all of their perspectives! Pinning to read later! #formativechat #edu5213SBU
    In reply to @mjjohnson1216
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Yes, and process over product #formativechat
    In reply to @miss_lsauser, @PLloydHenry, @davidwkwan
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Redo formative assessments? Why would you do that? FA is not an end, it is a process! #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    I think sometimes we get frustrated when students do not speak up... We need to reflect. Did we allow their voice? Or just impose our will upon them? #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Everything we want to accomplish as Ts is dependent upon the relationships we build with our Ss #formativechat
    In reply to @cpoole27
  • hulceke Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    A1- Not enough knowledge and mentors assisting them #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    Agree 100% What's the point in having something done once and then never learning from it if we failed? For example: what if we could only take a driver's test once? #formativechat #ALPLEARN
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    so much of this chat tonight is bringing up things I wrote about/thought about when writing my blog post today #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    Yes - and what better way to of it than to focus more on the destination - value the way students go about learning and/or constructing new knowledge. #formativechat
    In reply to @miss_lsauser, @davidwkwan
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    When is it supposed to come in?!? I'm leaving on Wednesday which is why I said it! lol. I'm making a roadtrip out of it though... You have all week! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @nathan_stevens, @DMooreSpanish
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    It has common sense answers. I think you'll enjoy reading it. #formativechat
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A3: Formative assessment can help Ss with their communication skills in a variety of ways. They can demonstrate their learning at another level that is just not rote memorization. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    I love that idea, I tried something similar last year using @edmodo and it was also a way to have Ss set goals for themselves and go back and reflect #formativechat
    In reply to @ksuss9, @edmodo
  • loliveira55 Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A2 You just keep telling them their their opions and ideas are important. You let them know that it is ok to make mistakes and that we all learn together. For me it is constantly reminding the Ss that they have to be active participants in their leaerning. #formativechat
  • chad_kinslow Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    By allowing multiple chances on FA you are modeling to students that growth is important, not just the end product! #formativechat
    • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:50 PM EDT
      Redo formative assessments? Why would you do that? FA is not an end, it is a process! #formativechat
      In reply to @LScumpieru
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    What super cool confirmation! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Definitely, a huge difference #formativechat
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13, @nathan_stevens
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    A2: Besides foster relationships, building experiences for students is also important. They will remember how they feel 20 years later, but not necessary what they have learnt. #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    A3: Remove the stress surrounding sharing (thumbs, whiteboard comments, group shares) give props to everyone when they share! #formativechat
  • timlriley Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Love this :-) thank you #formativechat
    In reply to @alisonkis
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    A3 Since FAs are like Lego building blocks that need to be linked have Ss discuss, share, illustrate & present their FAs The more they are in front the easier communication becomes #formativechat
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    I love giving out anonymous surveys to my students. I use google forms and let them speak their mind periodically throughout the year. I’ve learned so much from these! #formativechat #edu5213SBU
    In reply to @noel_hoffmann
  • Megan_TIS Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Demonstrate the same by being vulnerable with your students & being candid about the learning process #formativechat #opencommunication
    In reply to @goformative
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    I got it back Friday, my charger didnt work, went to store Sat, tried again, nothing, and the one sent today had no cables, so hopefully tomorrow #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2, @nathan_stevens, @DMooreSpanish
  • MootsSamantha Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    A3. The more feedback we provide students, the better. Feedback can assist students in self-evaluation and an opportunity to build their skills as self-directed learners. #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Well said, Robert. #formativechat
    In reply to @mr_middle_2
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Great question. Another one is...is there a way you can help the next teacher build upon the relationships that your students started to build with you? #formativechat
    In reply to @MariaHagen105, @mrsegall
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    Let's encourage them to ask any questions or voice any concerns. Let's dispel the myth that challenge is negative, that outspokenness is discouraged. Debate should be encouraged #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    It isn't enough to say that they are important, you need to say why, peers need to say why too. #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    experiences, great word, make it relevant, authentic and focused on the Ss interests and needs #formativechat
    In reply to @alisonkis
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    There ya go! I expect superior service after those blunders! Better be quick! #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @nathan_stevens, @DMooreSpanish
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    Lol. That’s what I meant. Ss view it as an end and they need to shift that perspective. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. Brain fog. #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    Our final question is now up in #formativechat! How can we use FA to help Ss improve their communication skills?
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I do the same thing! The students react positively to them and really put thought in their answers. I got a lot of terrific feedback last year. #formativechat
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13
  • cpoole27 Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    very true Brian! #formativechat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • schnekser Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A3: I like to conference with Ss individually to reinforce relationships and dig deeper into their thinking #formativechat
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A3: Formative assessment can help communication skills through @flipgrid, @goformative, @edjinotes, and interactive Google slides and docs. Students can show their knowledge with a plethora of choice and voice. #formativechat
  • LaurenPorosoff Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    It helps to give them time to list questions and frames so they can think of questions to ask. #formativechat
    In reply to @cclark421, @MrSouthBand1, @mr_middle_2, @noel_hoffmann
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A2: We develop positive learning environments when we chat with Ss between or outside of classes, let Ss re-do assessments, and ask how things are going. Ss won’t always ask for help if they’re not comfortable #formativechat
  • chad_kinslow Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3: It is crucial to include a self-reflection. Students seeing what they got wrong or right and how they could improve is good, but getting them to think about how they ended up there is just as important . #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    This is a bit hard with 30 kids, though. #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser
  • RealAdamLevine7 Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3: We can include formative assessments that the only goal is communication. If the assessment is a written one, you can ask students to articulate their needs in written format. #formativechat
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    Good stuff, Noel. #formativechat
    In reply to @noel_hoffmann
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3. Teach them to assess themselves. #formativechat
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    Love this! Question stems help a lot. #formativechat
    In reply to @cclark421, @MrSouthBand1, @LaurenPorosoff, @mr_middle_2
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3: I feedback is essential for growth and by providing consistent feedback, we can help strengthen those relationships and help them learn some more independence as well! #formativechat
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    Yes! Collaborate with counseling to make sure students get teachers they will be compatible with in the future/have trusted adults to turn to #formativechat our job isn’t just with one set of kids for 180 days....
    In reply to @davidwkwan, @MariaHagen105
  • holliewood24 Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3) the trick is to truly use it as formative assessment and avoid the pressure of making it count for a grade. If you can't help yourself, then give them 2nd, 3rd, or as many as it takes chance learning to get full credit...which really just equals full learning! #formativechat
  • cclark421 Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A3 Ss need to see assessment not as a one and done but as an ongoing process. I think as ts we need to set that tone. It’s about framing. I have told my Ss that feedback helps them level up and now they constantly ask for it. It’s about the culture you create #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    Have to always look to the why, why did I lose points, and then how to correct it, #formativechat
    In reply to @chad_kinslow
  • EduGladiators Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
  • MariaHagen105 Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    This is so important. Experiences and action from teachers can build trust more than words sometimes. #formativechat
    In reply to @alisonkis
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3: make self-reflection a key part of the formative assessment #formativechat
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    Agreed Chad. No long-term learning without reflection. #formativechat
    In reply to @chad_kinslow
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3. Tomlinson's words of wisdom about assessment. #formativechat
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A2: Provide examples of assessment work. We can use anchor papers to communicate expectations and increase their conform level in dealing with tasks. #formativechat
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    I’m a HS ELA T, but I chat with Ss in the Hall, or if I hear someone is making choices that may be detrimental to them, I’ll go find them during my prep or lunch and have a chat #formativechat
    In reply to @MariaHagen105, @mrsegall
  • ebrewington1s Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3: Using FA's that provide instant feedback to students and allow students to have a say in the forms of FA's used in the classroom #formativechat #edu5213sbu
  • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3: Ss can share what they understand about the feedback with others, write responses to the feedback - reflect on whether these are fair points, write their own feedback based on the co-constructed criteria etc. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • CoachHolleyT Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3: Use tools such as Flipgrid to increase opportunities for students to articulate their thoughts and for teachers to listen and respond with meaningful feedback #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    I like this strategy! When do you fit in each 2 minutes? #formativechat
    In reply to @MaizKelly1
  • hulceke Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3- it allows increased student achievement and is always data driven on their needs. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • loliveira55 Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3 This year I used video to have the Ss record topics throughout the year. Then I had them periodically review their videos to see growth. At the end of the year they reflected on the body of work and discussed ways to improve and ways they had grown. #formativechat
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Well done, Becky. #formativechat
    In reply to @schnekser, @fillthegaplearn
  • vendi55 Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3 - Use it to focus on the process and see where the strengths and weaknesses might be on a topic, providing meaningful and timely feedback promotes conversations and understanding, can lead to deeper knowledge and questions, promotes risk taking environment #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Hmm, why did I lose points? Not so much, the process is key, not the result. #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @chad_kinslow
  • KalchbrennerELA Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3: If a S needs to do a reteach lesson w/ me based on their FA, I encourage them to seek me out for help instead of the other way around. I also have them reflect on it & we discuss what problems popped up & how to fix them. Put the ball in their court. #formativechat
  • Blended_Math Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3-When I use @goformative to ask for feedback, they are able to do so without the anxieties of answering in front of the whole class. Also, I am able to respond to their needs in a more timely manner. This is a great stepping stone to self advocacy. #formativechat
  • LaurenPorosoff Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3 We can have them practice asking for help and using feedback as their own lessons within the context of doing a project so they have something meaningful to ask about and respond to. #formativechat
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    That's a great analogy! #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • ksuss9 Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    A3: I've just been introduced to Flipgrid - this seems like a great way to practice communication through formative assessment! #edu5213sbu #formativechat
  • Jazden1004 Jun 18 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Model giving and receiving feedback... then practice, practice, practice using Socratic circles, pairs, and reflection circles... #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    And now everyone can use @Flipgrid #FlipgridFever awesome tool for #stuvoice #formativechat
    In reply to @CoachHolleyT, @Flipgrid
  • Mrs_Rochon Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Sorry running late tonight! A1: I feel students don't know how to advocate for themselves so are uncomfortable at first. They also fear saying something incorrect #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A3: This is not a full answer, but if everyone hasn’t heard: @Flipgrid is now free! Student voice and communication just got more accessible! #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • MrBlanksBMS Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A3 By allowing Ss to self-reflect on assignments. Ss can see where they truly are in their progress of achieving mastery. It will help them realize if they are struggling, on-task, or past the goal which in turn helps us differentiate their learning. #formativechat #ALPLEARN
    In reply to @Rdene915
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A3- use it often and refer back to it so they know it’s important to you. Making sure to have one on one conversations about the information shared. Always let them self-assess. #formativechat #edu5213SBU
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A3. Currently in Voxer Book Study reading #LetThemSpeak. (Mostly lurking with craziness in life) The group was just talking about Social/Emotional type exit tickets. This would definitely help with "Articulating Needs." #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • MaizKelly1 Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    What exactly do you put on the surveys? #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13, @noel_hoffmann
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    I like this, Terrence. #formativechat
    In reply to @CoachHolleyT, @Rdene915
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Agree. We need to remember the power of language. Instead of saying helping students, we can rephrase to build their capacity. #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @LaurenPorosoff, @mr_middle_2, @noel_hoffmann
  • MrSouthBand1 Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A2 Don't correct the question. Don't presume their perspective or redirect them. Congratulate inquiry and foster self-direction. Let them ask and answer the question the way they want. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    I teach SPanish, so speaking assessments, or conveying a message #formativechat
    In reply to @MaizKelly1
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    that seems a bit airy fairy. Helping is fine. #formativechat
    In reply to @alisonkis, @NAEmmanuele, @LaurenPorosoff, @mr_middle_2, @noel_hoffmann
  • josh_giudicelli Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    This is a really cool idea! How much time do you find this takes usually? #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55
  • NAEmmanuele Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    I love this! I just introduced @Flipgrid to a Spanish teacher colleague, and I think she will be doing more of that next year #formativechat
    In reply to @loliveira55, @Flipgrid
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    We love this strategy because it's not only give students a voice but also a way to find out what they are interested in/ anticipate encountering in the real-world! #formativechat
    • holliewood24 Jun 18 @ 7:46 PM EDT
      A2) Give them an opportunity to practice asking for knowledge...even if it is off topic. I did a day where I said, what do you need to know before you graduate? It started with balancing a checkbook, lead to french braiding, and then ended with semicolon use! #formativechat
  • KristenSevinsky Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A3: I use google form to ask ss for their feedback at diff steps. then I follow through with classroom discussion or individual conference. Disc and conf is so crucial to 1, build relationship, 2, show you are listening and give them Practice using their voices. #formativechat
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    Absolutely - be a presence in the school for any student #formativechat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @MariaHagen105
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A3: Give students multiple formats for reflection and response. Give them question stems and model responses. #formativechat
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining in! #formativechat
    In reply to @Mrs_Rochon
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    This makes formative assessment a dialogic process, not simply info for you. #formativechat
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13
  • mjjohnson1216 Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    @Rdene915 great chat this evening - your challenges with your computer didn't slow it down even a 'ittle bit! #formativechat
  • BKd204Sci Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    As always a fun and spirited #Formativechat Thanks @Rdene915 & @davidwkwan & @goformative for the discussion
  • LScumpieru Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Thank you for a great chat tonight. This PLN is always refreshing, evolving, and revolutionizing my thought process as an educator! Thank you! Have a great week. #formativechat
  • fillthegaplearn Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    OK, 1am here, need to sleep. Great conversation folks!! #formativechat
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Is it weird that whenever I hear/read "THE WHY," I immediately think of @EMercedLearning??? #formativechat
    In reply to @Rdene915, @chad_kinslow, @EMercedLearning
  • ebrewington1s Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    It's funny I have never participated in an #edchat before this masters class. I have taken part of #formativechat twice now and always walk away learning something new.
  • miss_lsauser Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Thanks for the great chat #formativechat !
  • LiteracyChef Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    A3 Joining Late... personal goal setting - Ss use 4 Cs of learning to improve cooperation collaboration communication & critical thinking #formativechat
    • PLloydHenry Jun 18 @ 7:55 PM EDT
      A3: Ss can share what they understand about the feedback with others, write responses to the feedback - reflect on whether these are fair points, write their own feedback based on the co-constructed criteria etc. #formativechat
      • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
        Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • Mrs_Rochon Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    A2: community building and being authentic with students. Making the classroom a safe place where everyone feels valued and heard. Admitting when we make mistakes and talking through our thoughts out loud during challenges. #formativechat
  • MaizKelly1 Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    I have only tried this strategy with my tough kiddos, but I would talk to them when I greeted them at the door. I also would talk to them during lunch, recess, basically anytime I could. I honestly saw a change in these kiddos and I had less behavior problems. #formativechat
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    That's awesome! Way to create a line of communication about learning that students feel comfortable with! #formativechat
    In reply to @Blended_Math
  • cclark421 Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Thanks for a great chat tonight. So happy to be back, baseball season is finally over #formativechat
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    The process is "the key," but the product is still important. ;) #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn, @Rdene915, @chad_kinslow
  • saarbris Jun 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    I like using it for step-by-step feedback! Encourages data-based reflection. #formativechat
    In reply to @KristenSevinsky
  • timlriley Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Thank you everyone #formativechat
  • Dale_Chu Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    “Congratulate inquiry!” #formativechat
    In reply to @MrSouthBand1
  • KalchbrennerELA Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Thank you #formativechat! Glad I was finally able to check in tonight.
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Thanks for the great #formativechat tonight! Love reading insights and chatting with passionate educators!
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining me and @Rdene915 for #formativechat everyone! We are both going to be at #ISTE18 and would love to meet up! Let us know if you going to be there!
  • mr_middle_2 Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Thanks for hosting #formativechat, @Rdene915! Hopping over to #learnLAP!
  • alisonkis Jun 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    A3: Using a variety of formative assessment tools. Ensure every student contribute ideas by using different protocols. #formativechat
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining #formativechat everyone! We are in the midst of still reading Q2 responses and learning a lot! We appreciate you all sharing your insights and experiences this week!
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    It depends on the unit/lesson. Generally I ask: what did you like? What did you dislike? Do you have suggestions for improvement? Was there a method that would have worked better for you in this situation? Do you have any suggestions for other programs? ETC #formativechat
    In reply to @MaizKelly1, @FHC_RFetsch13
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    That's an important place to start. I wish I did this more! #formativechat
    In reply to @MaizKelly1
  • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Some of the things we have been talking about, I wrote about earlier, having time to reflect in the summer is always good https://t.co/q7p23KknqE #formativechat
  • KimberlyWeible Jun 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Goal setting and self-reflection is a great part of formative assessment #formativechat #edu5213sbu
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • Mrs_Rochon Jun 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    A3: Giving students choice in assessment types. allowing them to use tools such as @Flipgrid to practice. Conference with them, set up peer conferencing by modeling effective feedback giving & receiving. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • noel_hoffmann Jun 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Thanks for a wonderful chat, @Rdene915! #formativechat
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Not a problem at all! I have a learning difference (not a disability) and I have struggled in life, but it never stopped me from accomplishing a lot and being very successful. We are all different and students need to know that too! #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn, @schnekser
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us Roxanne! We hope you can join us again next week! #formativechat
    In reply to @FHC_RFetsch13
  • FHC_RFetsch13 Jun 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    On the first day of school I ask more getting to know them questions, how much they study, their feelings about math. Then throughout the semester I ask content/ teaching ?’s and then put in how are you doing, anything you want me to know. Etc. #formativechat #edu5213SBU
    In reply to @MaizKelly1, @noel_hoffmann
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Great to see you again Tim. Thanks for joining in! #formativechat
    In reply to @timlriley
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    I read it as any student of any ability knowing or not knowing struggling to advocate. I think there are many different interpretations and answers to this question. #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @schnekser, @fillthegaplearn
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Yay! We are glad to have you back with us! #formativechat
    In reply to @cclark421
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining in, Lauren! #formativechat
    In reply to @miss_lsauser
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Thanks for making time for our chat, Michael! Good night! #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Thank you for joining Lisa! Are chats are always better with you here! #formativechat
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Thanks Brian :) It's always great to have you with us! #formativechat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci, @Rdene915, @goformative
  • twhite1489 Jun 18 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: A lot of teachers don't listen. Also, kids are taught to listen to adults and that adults know what's best for them. They are not taught how to respectfully advocate for themselves. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM EDT
      Here we go with Question 1 tonight: Based on your experience,what are the main barriers that students face in advocating for their own needs? #formativechat
  • MorganLaHa Jun 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A2: by valuing and validating their ideas and opinions #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @davidwkwan
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    The problem is not getting what they deserve. It IS a problem when a school denies the S's right to a dyslexia program with fidelity and a certified dyslexic teacher. That is a PROBLEM they face. Their problems are our responsibilities as educators. #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn, @schnekser
  • mrsegall Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Hey #Formativechat members. Would love to have some out of district teachers participate in the #EBedchat I’m moderating tomorrow. Come one, come all!
  • twhite1489 Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A3: Refer back to their formative assessment when addressing the topic. Give feedback on the formative, ask questions, create a conversation. #formativechat
    • Rdene915 - Moderator Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM EDT
      Question 3 is here: How can we use formative assessment to help students improve their communication skills (ex: articulate their needs, listen to learn, retain feedback)? #formativechat
  • MIMSTheatre Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Great discussion on #formativechat and student advocacy. We have to start with safe and inviting classrooms and build relationships in order to allow Ss to self advocate their individual needs. #FCPSVANGUARD
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Yes! I love how you brought up the point of celebrating mistakes. So much of self-advocacy is recognizing and being comfortable with areas for improvement. #formativechat
    In reply to @vendi55
  • carrierenfro Jun 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: My students are all about relationships - it is the doorway to acceptance, trust and learning #formativechat #edmodolove
    • cpoole27 Jun 18 @ 7:49 PM EDT
      A2: When we build a foundation of trust within the class, the relationships that follow will help foster Ss comfort overall #formativechat
  • MIMSTheatre Jun 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Great discussion on #formativechat and student advocacy. We have to start with safe and inviting classrooms and build relationships in order to allow Ss to self advocate their individual needs. #FCPSVanguard
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    true! I think it also makes us educators more attune to the learning process, listen to learners more carefully, and thus provide them with better support. #formativechat
    In reply to @PLloydHenry, @miss_lsauser
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Agreed! Finding those 1-1 opportunities is so important! #formativechat
    In reply to @DMooreSpanish
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    I love your comment and especially about having a growth mindset. I like using the word, "yet" and encourage my students to use it, know what it means and feel that hope when they use it too. Great analogy to sports too! #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @LScumpieru
  • davidwkwan - Moderator Jun 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Agreed, when these activities are more process rather then the end results, students can feel more comfortable expressing themselves. #formativechat
    In reply to @fillthegaplearn
  • goformative Jun 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Great analogy, Brian! It's important for students to be able to connect their learning experiences. This can help them better understand it and communicate about it. #formativechat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • bigcitydyslexic Jun 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Oral language skills, opportunities for cooperative learning and group sharing and exposure to world challenges are some that come to mind that could be helpful to helping Ss communicate more effectively and confidently. #formativechat #READ5305
    In reply to @saarbris, @PLloydHenry