#TMchat Archive
Current and relevant education discussions are held every Tuesday in #TMchat. A weekly guest moderator, considered an expert on the the week's topic, joins @conniehamilton to guide the one hour chat and actively engage with participants. Founder and moderator @conniehamilton supplies her responses to the week's questions visually in Thinking Maps.
Tuesday March 1, 2016
Hi I am Mary and I teach 2nd in VA
I'm Connie Hamilton. Dennis Dill and I are your moderators tonight. Let the introductions begin. https://t.co/ZHXFTlCdIE
Monica, Special Education teacher, Texas
It is time ... I'm Dennis and I am a MS Social Studies teacher at a school of the arts in Florida. Let's talk Student Talk
Thanks for being here, Monica.
Our format will include 7 questions. Use A1 to respond to Q1 & remember to include hashtag in all tweets. https://t.co/lPQRWE7y1v
Hi I can't tweet live as is 2am here in uk but topics so apt for our research interest, had to schedule & catch up tomorrow!
Hi! Glenna here. Teacher leader in FL 😊
Jack Griffith, SS HS teacher checking in from beautiful Florida~
Good evening all! Nardi here from Florida!
Kdg teacher in Goshen, IN
Hey Jack ... Welcome to ... Social Studies Rules! :)
Barb in Minnesota-Hurray to student interaction in
Terrific! It is time for . Meredith, from IL pulling up a chair.
HI Barb. Enjoy the snow day today?
Good evening, ! Sonya, instructional coach from Texas excited to learn with y'all!
Hello Nardi ... welcome to ... It must be Florida night!
So glad you're here, Meredith.
Hello Barbara ... Welcome to
Looking forward to , going on now.
Hello from snowy Michigan
Hello Meredith ... Welcome to
I've noticed a lot of FL Ts here lately.
You closed for tomorrow yet, Matthew?
Hello Sonya ... welcome to
Hi,
Kathryn,
Secondary Principal from Michigan
Not closed yet, fortunately I get to work no matter what. Think you'll close?
Hi Kathryn. What district are you in?
Terry another T fromFL Hi everyone
Hello Matthew ... welcome to
A1: I believe that "Student Talk" is students focusing/developing deeper thoughts toward a specific concept.
Hey Tiffany, welcome to You ready to talk Student Talk?
Hello Kathryn ... welcome to
OH, right around the corner!
Retweet Q1: What is "Student Talk"? How is it different than "Students Talking"?
It was a nice 82 degrees here in central FL
Hey Terry ... welcome to ... A familiar face ... we have been in numerous chats together.
PJ Caposey - Supe and author from IL
Guess who didn't schedule the tweets ... this guy ... it is ok ... question one is coming
A1: student talk is focused to have potential to uncover conceptual misconceptions
A1: Student talk is when students discuss the subject matter deeply, trying to figure out the answers, not talking about weekend.
Q1 - What is Student Talk? How is it different from student talking?
A1: Student Talk is students using the vocab to analyze course materials while students talking is unfocused convos.
A1: Student talk is Ss interacting about a problem, working together within the content
A1: For me, student talk ensures every student gets a chance to share their thinking, rather than a few.
Hi . Alana, Reading Teacher, Southern IL
A1 Student talk is purposeful
Student talk is for learning - students talking is something that happens when kids are not engaged
A1 student talk is centered on a purpose-shows learning Ss talking is still important
A1 Student talk brings the students into the conversation as participants ... engaged in the learning process.
Student talk is intentionally a chance for students to think, analyze and speak what they understand; and then be heard.
A1: Talk that includes personal experiences, real world connections & examples that connect with the content.
So... polleverywhere, whiteboards, that fits student talk? https://t.co/d5yJ2h6sDI
A1: For me, student talk ensures every student gets a chance to share their thinking, rather than a few.
Student talk is the opportunity for turn and talk, think pair share or rhetorical teaching led by ss and facilitated by t
A1 Student talk requires a listening teacher.
How do you engage the students who are more of an introvert?
A1: Student talk is intentional and purposeful.
great point https://t.co/giI46edsfk
A1: For me, student talk ensures every student gets a chance to share their thinking, rather than a few.
A1 Student talk has a purpose and follows protocol. It's discourse to enhance learning.
A1 The difference is in the structure and intention of student talk. It is focused and meaningful.
. Students talk about their thinking about an academic subject.
You bet...and my new favorite is goformative. SO easy to use. https://t.co/FTcGfxQ7dO
So... polleverywhere, whiteboards, that fits student talk? https://t.co/d5yJ2h6sDI
A1: For me, student talk ensures every student gets a chance to share their thinking, rather than a few.
yes, and it gets them talking with each other ... that is where real learning happens ... thinking.
A!: The most difficult piece of student talk with little ones, is student listening
A1: Students collaboratively engaged in the content with accountability for all.
They get off track quickly. https://t.co/OsIK0CVcZk
A!: The most difficult piece of student talk with little ones, is student listening
exactly-S talk is one of most powerful formatives-shows what Ss know in real time https://t.co/NrzJQzh6VV
A1 Student talk requires a listening teacher.
I'd argue that's true for older kids and adult learners as well! https://t.co/cojKuw3Zqk
A!: The most difficult piece of student talk with little ones, is student listening
As teachers, we need to pull ourself out of the conversation and let the kids talk it out with us nudging.
I think it is also group talk and think and then allowing the group to present thoughts to class.
I find that white boards help engage levels increase.
A1: Metacognition: process information and remember. It's a Ss operating system.
Q2: How does student talk relate to the "real world"?
Is that engagement or student talk... or both? https://t.co/WoAVjKyaxs
I find that white boards help engage levels increase.
Model conversations for students, purposely partner students, and encourage/praise! https://t.co/Ua6awAkwep
How do you engage the students who are more of an introvert?
Little ones, among others! https://t.co/mNs9IotHCp
A!: The most difficult piece of student talk with little ones, is student listening
A2: In order for Ss to be engaged in topic, one must relate it to Ss' background. See more engagement as opposed to foreign concept.
A2 of most powerful skills we can teach-how to discuss in civil way with others-need more of this as adults https://t.co/g0z1lEfIZz
Q2: How does student talk relate to the "real world"?
we could say ... listening can't happen if no one is talking
Learning happens in the real world in messy, loud, and unpredictable ways. Let the classroom mirror it . . .
A2: We are losing the ability to communicate in the "real" world. We need to get this art back. Important for collaboration.
A1: student talk incorporates academic language
this is where working in small groups is so important ... sometimes easier to talk with a couple a kids than the class.
Retweet Q2: How does student talk relate to the "real world"?
I agree with that too. HS Ss get off track a lot.
A2: In the real world our Ss will need to learn how to communicate & make decisions w/o guidance from a leader. Ss lead themselves
I'd love tips on that too! Thinking too just bc S isn't Student Talking does that mean they aren't learning?
I agree. My favorite is shoulder partners. Not a ton of great research on groups larger than 3, 2 is better. https://t.co/WMBwUkdod8
this is where working in small groups is so important ... sometimes easier to talk with a couple a kids than the class.
A2: Student talk relates academic language to the real world by activating schema, creating context
A1: There's no randomness. Everyone is clear on the subject being discussed.
A2 Ss need to learn to listen as well as talk in the "real world" as well as classroom
sometimes you have to debate it out ... can get loud ... all good as long as it is respectful
A2: Student talk helps develop communication skills. Strong communicators make effective leaders.
A2 Ss talk relates to the rw because it is applicable to the learning done in the re. Ss learn to talk, reflect and communicate .
Good evening . Leigh here from MO. High School AP and life long learner.
YES! There must be an established protocol for the student talk. https://t.co/JiOf3yfYPf
A1: There's no randomness. Everyone is clear on the subject being discussed.
Was trying to locate a graphic of a chart/rubric students used to help guide their conversations about a topic. :-( Couldn't find it
Real world = student talk. U have ideas/analyzations & share them. The better practiced you are in articulating thoughts the better
Read-talk about reading-write about reading-this is key & can't happen with out S talk
A2: Ss learn how to personalize their learning. Identify key elements that they can relate to under guidance of Ts.
A2: learning through listening, questioning, discussion is real world
That is sooo true! https://t.co/1xZ0PAuVRo
A2: Student talk helps develop communication skills. Strong communicators make effective leaders.
A2 Student talk requires listening then responding respectfully and thoughtfully, much needed skills in the real world.
A2:
Student dialogue equips students with the 4C's which are skills that are crucial in the 21st century.
A2; What we are doing right now is Student Talk ... we are sharing thoughts and ideas on a topic ...
. Q2. It is preparing students to problem solve with colleagues.
A2 Student talk is the precursor to S's future public discourse. T's must set an example by listening carefully & responding well.
Can't deny the importance of that, can we? https://t.co/FDxLNR68j2
A2: In the real world our Ss will need to learn how to communicate & make decisions w/o guidance from a leader. Ss lead themselves
yes and Ss are more willing to talk in a smaller group
A1: Student talk is engaging. There's a consistency in the flow of conversation
A2: I was with students today on a site visit, their words, conversations, & ideas are all real world talks. They GET it!
Students also need to explain why they think the way they do. The 'WHY' is often more important than the what.
How do we get it back? https://t.co/hjbXEPoKED
A2: We are losing the ability to communicate in the "real" world. We need to get this art back. Important for collaboration.
need to be part of any curriculum-makes no sense to just know what you read if cant discuss https://t.co/asxZA27GCl
Interested in your response to our last Q tonight on how to measure the effectiveness. https://t.co/5FRjVdeCEi
A2: I was with students today on a site visit, their words, conversations, & ideas are all real world talks. They GET it!
A2 Great student conversations don't just happen-much modeling and instruction takes place for effective student talk.
Being able to discuss what has been read is a skill they need in life. Totally agree w/ Ben! https://t.co/mXamOEQy6N
need to be part of any curriculum-makes no sense to just know what you read if cant discuss https://t.co/asxZA27GCl
it is strange how few students can actually effectively do this ... thinking on their feet.
A2 Don't miss the value of student-led discussion groups. Protocols have their place, but student led talk is also very powerful.
I have had many Ss talk, but far more need to learn to listen to then respond. Too often Ss are talking over or waiting to talk.
can't wait! This is an informative chat!
This is so true in my Kdg room. Learning to listen is a big part of student talk
A2 I like think aloud, or have Ss explain their answers, when I started doing that it was amazing to hear how they think of things
A2: Ss discuss reading passage w/partner...partner listens then adds details that were missed. Chunk another passage, switch roles
A2: Historical events can connect to current events/ politics going on in the real world & help students form opinions & a voice
but in the real world many teams/groups are bigger than 2 ... how do we get that practice?
Q3: How does student talk support learning?
Don't say or show it, nobody will know it. Student talk is important because not letting others know in the real world = problems
I think we need to build the skills and give the opportunities Feedback, model.
. Even very young children can be taught to talk in response to others' ideas, this requires listening and connecting.
In Social Studies it's important to try historical events to modern topics/themes to engage Ss.
listen ... then think before they speak ... not about blurting out answers ...
For sure. For me, I made sure each student had a task/goal for the project/assignment. No free loaders! https://t.co/DJYz1BqejM
but in the real world many teams/groups are bigger than 2 ... how do we get that practice?
A3: Expanding the student's knowledge on a specific concept
Thank you for the clarification lol, I was curious. This is my first time here
Talking protocols, even in elementary, allow for these skills to develop https://t.co/0eMo5FJFsc
This is so true in my Kdg room. Learning to listen is a big part of student talk
You mean just students talking? https://t.co/ohvwHC2Mew
A2 Don't miss the value of student-led discussion groups. Protocols have their place, but student led talk is also very powerful.
Through collaboration in PLC's
Student talk can help students develop their thoughts. Sts will engage with a peer
Q3 Ss talk supports learning in a cooperative setting. Ss get the chance to learn from others, listen to others and express ideas
the discussion piece is hard for kids ... the thinking is what I see the struggle ...
Ahh.. that's another perspective I didn't think about. https://t.co/hWWTyyP3Gl
Don't say or show it, nobody will know it. Student talk is important because not letting others know in the real world = problems
A3: Just imagine the # of Ss that can get away with little to no critical thinking w/o student talk opportunities
A3: Ss can explain their own understandings, teach others. Justify their thinking
Retweet Q3: How does student talk support learning?
A3: Our students are not "fact finders" they need collaboration, brainstorming, & time to talk to one another to be innovators
A3: Student talk supports learning through encoding. Gather, Process, Store, Retrieve - Brain Research
A little late to the party James from Florida here - looking forward to the conversation
How do you structure that, Kathy? https://t.co/NYCWgzD2Q4
. Even very young children can be taught to talk in response to others' ideas, this requires listening and connecting.
A3: Discussion among peers can help with memorization, analysis, and understanding. Students learn from each other and share ideas.
OK... now we can put our party hats on! Finally! Thanks for joining, James. https://t.co/fQEVYZjtWh
A little late to the party James from Florida here - looking forward to the conversation
We are incorporating a talk tomorrow about the expansion of Ancient Rome SS always good for talking
A3 How many times has listening to yourself talk brought clarity and understanding to a topic. Knowledge comes with talk!
A3: when students question, support, and reflect in convo they clarify thinking and make connections
A3: By using Student Talk they are processing the material learned and developing it into concrete facts they can use later
In younger classrooms explicit modeling and practice really comes into play when learning how to actively listen
A3 How many times has listening to yourself talk brought clarity and understanding to a topic? Knowledge comes with talk!
A few people in my life that I wish had better listening skills. https://t.co/lNTDlVqVTN
This is so true in my Kdg room. Learning to listen is a big part of student talk
A3: It can be difficult listening to novices grappling with the content. But that’s the teaching challenge. https://t.co/vFEJXAWMbW
A3: Explaining something sometimes help you understand, listening to others might help you to think differently or confirm your own.
With student talk, others (most notably parents & teachers) are able to understand student and meet their needs.
A3 - one cannot underestimate the value of a conversation ... we dig deeper
A3: I teach Ss to think. I know Kray Kray , but they rarely get asked to think on their own or worry too much about being "right"
and maybe a few sentence frames to help guide their conversation
A great tool in teacher self-reflection and growth is simply having them time the time they talk compared to kids
A3 literature conversations and response journaling is a researched method. Allows Ss to speak and hear themselves, then write ideas
Expanding knowledge-validates current understanding and facilitates growth! Nice! https://t.co/IPkwaBa5t8
A3: Expanding the student's knowledge on a specific concept
Student talk is the practice of articulating a point of view. Important if students want to be understood in classroom or at a job
too many kids think history is history ... difficult for them to see those connections.
How many have caught themselves answering their own questions? How about a resource to increase Ss talk? https://t.co/LnDq7lxwOz
A3: It supports learning through the use of content/academic vocabulary. Students can apply knowledge at higher DOK levels.
we just had this conversation today. Kids need to learn to fail to be able to reach their full potential. They get it
A3: Student talk helps sts develop their thoughts.I have students talk in book groups before writing responses
Teaching them to think is way more valuable than any test score they can receive.
Firm believer that if they can talk it first, then they can write it! https://t.co/WUy37oVTlo
A3: Student talk helps sts develop their thoughts.I have students talk in book groups before writing responses
A3: Student talk is also a type of formative assessment for the teacher.
talking it out is verbal reflection ... verbal pre-writing.
Teaching is HUGE & will last them a lifetime, NOT so much! https://t.co/59BzXwVq0z
Teaching them to think is way more valuable than any test score they can receive.
isn't it crazy. Asking them to think a little bit. Or telling them that there isn't a "right" answer!! Look out!
The struggle comes in that articulation ... kids struggle to verbalize their thoughts.
Q4: "Think, Pair, Share" is one student talk protocol. What are some others?
How about a Prezi about this concept? https://t.co/uPZBETK5Nk So important to reach out and grab what helps you learn easily.
It takes a creative SS teacher to bring the content alive for them. You're 1/2 teacher 1/2 actor
I consider a silent classroom a waste of student time. If students can't talk, they can't learn. Expression is key
A4: Looking forward in learning different ways beside "Think, Pair, Share" :)
. A favorite quote-'I don't know what I'm thinking until I see what I say.' it's about writing but applies to talk.
on a side note..Thank you, that is what we need to see more of in our classrooms. Keep keeping on!
Not much is retained by simply listening. Lots of research there.
Retweet Q4: "Think, Pair, Share" is one student talk protocol. What are some others?
A4: 1 of my new favorites is "I used to THINK ...But now I THINK" Do you see implications for
Oh... it can be done! could share some ideas.
The key is the practice. Theyre students, its ok to mess up. Imagine not having practiced then articulating to your boss
A4: "Inside outside circles" for understanding, Popcorn Share. I love having the chairs in a circle, 1 of my favs for student talk.
I like to think Im 1/2 standup comedian ... unfortunately my kids think otherwise.
A4; Knee to Knee, eye to eye, or just turn and talk for modeling fishbowl
. Writing is a tool for talking as much as talking is a tool for writing - both support deep thinking.
A4: Google Kagen stratagies. Kent ISD has a training in August!
A4: Book Clubs, writing partners, turn and talk & peer tutors. I would love new ideas!
A4: Somebody, wanted, but, so strategy as introduced to me by
A4: to practice listening after partner talk, share your favorite thing your partner said
A4: A lot of turn and talk..similar to ThinkPairShare. Just lets my Kdgs share what they're thinking right in that moment
A4: Innovation challenges, unplugged time & old school open discussion. My students LOVED these days in my class. I miss them.
I love knee to knee - eye to eye. This helps with full body listening.
I also love, "what did (insert name) just say?"
Q4: Give One Get One and Round Robin are my favorites in first grade
I found it easier for my Kindergartners if I give them a sentence frame.
so many are afraid of messing up ... it is a good thing I am pretty good at modeling messing up breaking barriers
A4: I use "help me" WBT. Sts answer a ? Then ask for help and ideas to expand answer. My kinders <3 it and everyone can be involved.
We're a Kagan district. If you are not familiar with Kagan structures, you should check it out.
Great quote! Thanks for sharing, Kathy! https://t.co/xChoZzfyva
. A favorite quote-'I don't know what I'm thinking until I see what I say.' it's about writing but applies to talk.
Ball toss, shoulder partner, reciprocal teaching, table jobs, mingle, 4 corners with turn and talk, whole class story writing
A4 Fishbowls are very effective for learning the norms for conversation based learning.
Great way to show progression of learning and student growth. https://t.co/9nWuMOBu1K
A4: 1 of my new favorites is "I used to THINK ...But now I THINK" Do you see implications for
A4: I also liked a character education lesson of operator.
making authentic connection s to the individual student is when buy in occurs.
A4: Another thought is write a newspaper headline about your - requires concise
A4: Stand up, hand up, pair up.
A4: would Socratic Chairs be a protocol?
I've had very deep conversations with young children-don't underestimate them!
Sentence stems are also great for language learners who need the support to answer questions https://t.co/0jP3N0MgWO
A4: Passing Notes. Ask a controversial question & to answer it silently passing notes. When time is up they can't wait to talk!
I have no problem modeling messing up. It shows I make mistakes too. https://t.co/dOiTdmN8ny
so many are afraid of messing up ... it is a good thing I am pretty good at modeling messing up breaking barriers
Are you able to follow the questions easily in tonight?
Q5: How is student talk managed? What is the role of the teacher?
We are all afraid of messing up. Thats why in school we have to push them. Student achievement is moving forward.
A5: I would love to get student talk to the point of dinner conversation, no hands in the air. Still working on that for yrs!
A5: Role of the teacher is to be the guide on the side, not the sage on the stage
A4: I have sts tell me a good thought their partner had.
A5: The teacher is the coach and facilitator. Once the relationship is establish the fun can begin!
I say random, but generally Ss will pair some someone they know. Just a quick way to mix things up. https://t.co/Z8Cn2K4FZJ
The role of the t is to facilitate, clarify confusion, model and monitor
. E.M. Forester - not enough room to cite in the previous tweet! Jim Gavelek also said this.
I like this idea. How often do you use this in class?
Retweet Q5: How is student talk managed? What is the role of the teacher?
A5: The teacher's role is to model and teach the process and facilitate.
I can - I am fairly new to Twitter, so I'm just observing. :D
A5: T listens as Ss are engaged in conversations, modelling when needed
A5- How is student talk managed ... A loud booming voice ... just kidding ... the topic manages the the talk ... the teacher guides
A5: Student talk is managed in first grade through gradual release. Model model model micromanage then release! You'd be amazed!
Teachers structure student talk to ensure it happens. This can be done by creating "safer" environments. It needs to be intentional
A5: I just facilitate the discussion. Play devils advocate and I almost never tell them what I think until the end.
A5: Give the kids something to talk about ... a simple question gets a simple answer ... ask better questions.
A5: Keep the conversation moving but don't overtake
A5: modeling , providing sentence stems,insuring all sts have a voice & creating an environment that all ideas are valued
A5: A Ts role in student talk is to guide, clarify, redirect if necessary
A5: I love using literature. Today my Ss said, will you bring more strange books for us to dig into? Love it!
Ask a teacher in the building to come in and observe a class discussion. Listen to their feedback. https://t.co/noTLqgnW6A
A5: Listen, Prompt, gather formative feedback, model, keep Ss on task, Praise, identify misconceptions, adjust instruction, etc.
A5: managing student talk includes topic or focus-can depend on purpose-exploration, review, experience with peer discussions
. Very carefully. Fishbowl with multiple groups discussing one problem/question connected to literature works well.
we have to teach the kids to ask better questions ... so they can get better answers Student talk helps hone this skill
Great response!
https://t.co/q8iH5bnzAu
A5: modeling , providing sentence stems,insuring all sts have a voice & creating an environment that all ideas are valued
A5: Spark interest, intrigue them from the start, & continue to question. Question, question, question. They will LOVE it
One way to directly teach kids to ask better Qs is using the Q Formulation Technique from https://t.co/U7pLgOg4ez
we have to teach the kids to ask better questions ... so they can get better answers Student talk helps hone this skill
We created question stems for Ss to use to ask their peers questions/posted 'em in the classrooms. https://t.co/6Qz9kzM6ml
we have to teach the kids to ask better questions ... so they can get better answers Student talk helps hone this skill
A5: Let them ask the Qs and find the answers. Take them to a little struggle, so they can talk it out.
. I find that teaching what participation really means is more effective than listening sticks.
I love devils advocate ...
Can't say how important letting students feel the struggle is with only 140 characters. https://t.co/c4fqsQXJ7N
A5: Let them ask the Qs and find the answers. Take them to a little struggle, so they can talk it out.
Q6: How can student talk be supported in the early elementary?
Q6 How can student talk be supported in elementary?
A6: lots of modeling and planting the right answer w some Ss
A6: Model and give positive reinforcement
A6: Students WANT to talk in early elementary - we just need to listen & ask great questions!
A6: Same answer... model model model!!! Question stems/frames
A6: Modeling, sentence stems, talking partners so Ss are comfortable sharing, practice staying on topic
A6. Encourage Ss to answer in complete sentences in early elem.
Ss are eager to share their connections to new content. Start here. Praise great conversations and model. https://t.co/sj3HAhCHWy
Q6: How can student talk be supported in the early elementary?
Gotta be a little careful with the modeling. That can turn into teacher talk during student talk time. https://t.co/GMgNMwdR59
A6: Model and give positive reinforcement
Retweet Q6: How can student talk be supported in the early elementary?
Kids need to develop their own answer ...research to support many are missing this element of learning.
I love using the fishbowl method in my third grade classroom. My sts need to see what effective communication looks like.
A6: They are willing to talk. We need to create the opportunities for making it purposeful. Lessons should have that focus.
A6 sentence and response frames, model, model, micromanage , practice, allow for students to "talk" to t about plus/deltas
A5: Prompting with targeted questions. Model rules of etiquette. Target students in a positive way. High interest discussions.
. Demystifying the questioning process is very helpful and empowering for students.
Great way to critique listening/responding strategies focusing on collaboration separate from content. https://t.co/WaaRTfDvfI
I love using the fishbowl method in my third grade classroom. My sts need to see what effective communication looks like.
A6 - Early Elementary seems more interested in walking a straight line and behavior ...need to talk it out more often
A6: Encourage the culture of its ok to have a wrong answer also as they talk through it to find the right answer
Providing time to practice S 2 S talk. Ts having well thought out & crafted questions which intrigue Ss, provoke thinking
maybe the kids need more time to ponder ideas ... then let them speak ... not all about quiet learning
A6: practice, reflect, refine, practice, reflect, refine...better convos and the path to growth
Mix-Pair-Share, Round Robin, Stand-Up Hand-Up Pair-Up,
Hope the chat has gone well! If you want to know about apps developed specifically to get students communicating better, follow :).
Want some more or is that good?
Really getting into that this year with my Kclass. Support your answer "In the text it says..."
A6 Very carefully. A focused question related to literature or a real problem context provides structure.
Eventually they won't need the sentence stem, it will become part of their own language. https://t.co/xthdbsWSly
Really getting into that this year with my Kclass. Support your answer "In the text it says..."
A6: Mini-lessons featuring student strategies: What did you do to help yourself solve the tricky part?
A6 Had first graders deeply engrossed in a conversation about whether or not the 3 pigs should have eaten the big bad wolf.
High interest discussions is key ... how can you talk about something boring or something you know nothing about.
Q7: How do you measure the effectiveness of student talk?
A7. Great question. Measuring oral language, especially w/ very young children, is a challenge.
Great question - love to hear the responses to Q7
A7: When you see the eagerness of the students just burst through
only way they learn to question is by seeing/hearing great questions.
Sorry I'm late. I missed a lot, but glad to get on now.
. Rotating students through fishbowls can span 3 or 4 days with the same discussion focus (picture book related).
How do you quantify that? Collect data? https://t.co/nPi7io3BVg
A7: When you see the eagerness of the students just burst through
Can't expect kids to learn to question if all you ever ask them to do is find the answer.
A7 when Ss are engaged in a talk, working cooperatively and solving problems or creating a mindset of learners
A7: Quality of student talk. Evidence to support answer. Engagement. Questioning each other.
A7: When it is purposeful and intentional. When they apply it in small groups and one to one.
Retweet Q7: How do you measure the effectiveness of student talk?
Engaging in argument with evidence?? https://t.co/WBWq76OfRr
A6 Had first graders deeply engrossed in a conversation about whether or not the 3 pigs should have eaten the big bad wolf.
A7: How do you measure effectiveness ... a timed multiple choice test. JK ... how about ask them.
A7: Artifacts/student sharing serve as assessments for effectiveness of S talk. Rubrics measure protocol. https://t.co/I37wuZ1avJ
Believe we need to work on asking better questions & not fearful of questions https://t.co/1T90rclDx0
only way they learn to question is by seeing/hearing great questions.
How do you measure their engagement or collaborative level? https://t.co/6AE5ytT6qb
A7 when Ss are engaged in a talk, working cooperatively and solving problems or creating a mindset of learners
A7: If sts have different ideas when they leave the discussion, everyone has been able to contribute and I have learned something.
A7: hmmm... rubrics for answers that reach the depth of the standard? teacher checklists? (this is an ongoing discussion on my team)
. I teach student about overlapping speech and awkward silent pauses - both inherent in real conversations.
A7: When a students formative and summative assessment data gains increase.
A7:a 'pull-a stick" chart to monitor participation of some Ss. Ss get rewarded for 'on topic' participation. Sticks provide measure.
A7: pre-post assessment, formal or informal exit slip-what did you learn during discussion?
A7: Visually inspect engagement, Extended learning activities that dive deeper once Ss are hooked, listen & adjust instruction.
Q7 For me if I hear my Ss talking about their thinking I feel it is successful.
A7: Measure discussions: Exit Ticket, quick write, Twitter post to post on the wall, etc. Ask ?s that require analysis & reflection
. Some were convinced the wolf was rotten to the core and others thought with some love and support he could change.
But so many rubrics . . . Is it too much for educators/students?
this seems so formal for such an informal activity
A7 engagement ... what does that look like ... is every kid participating equally or are they being left out?
Thank you for another great and for all of the great info
. Observation notes are helpful.
That's kind of the point. Making it intentional and formal. Otherwise, it's just kids talking. https://t.co/G9erURf9ar
this seems so formal for such an informal activity
Thrilled to have located this! Love how it is measured over time = growth. Accountable talk time https://t.co/I0qexdSuoA
. Absolutely. Evidence from the text, from their own lives, and from other sources.
Good assessment strategies for student talk. https://t.co/MKySAF0opG
A7: Measure discussions: Exit Ticket, quick write, Twitter post to post on the wall, etc. Ask ?s that require analysis & reflection
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Great question! https://t.co/nmHBMC9xmx
A7 engagement ... what does that look like ... is every kid participating equally or are they being left out?
Thank you and for a great tonight!
