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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:00 PM EDT

Good evening, and welcome to #UKEdChat - This evening, searching for Common Sense in Education - Six qu's to follow https://t.co/tCj8YOjnQd

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UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:00 PM EDT

Good evening, and welcome to #UKEdChat - This evening, searching for Common Sense in Education - Six qu's to follow https://t.co/4mrTHiTHyw

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:01 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 1. Share a time, within your professional practice, where you have seen a true lack of common sense.

UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:01 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 1. Share a time, within your professional practice, where you have seen a true lack of common sense.

digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:02 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - A1. In 140 characters? Phew! Tough call. Where to start...!!!

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supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:02 PM EDT

Hi everyone! My name is Noa, and I'm a sci T from Israel. #ukedchat

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:03 PM EDT

Somehow programming Ss requires all depts/grade teams to sit through at least 4 meetings+complete the same form again and again? #ukedchat

digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:04 PM EDT

A1 #UKEdChat Could start from the top, and the policies that have created fear, judgements and workloads into teachers lives

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Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:04 PM EDT

Hi there! I'm Jessica, former #sped teacher in NYC and Community Manager @penpalschools. Also used to attend @acsegham! #ukedchat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:05 PM EDT

Hello Jessica - welcome to the #ukedchat discussion on Common Sense in Education

In reply to @Jessicaraealt, @PenpalSchools, @ACSEgham

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:05 PM EDT

Quite honestly though, when I think of Common Sense I think of @CommonSenseEd which saved the day so many times! #thankyou #ukedchat

teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:05 PM EDT

A1 being asked to re-write SOW to fit a certain format #ukedchat

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supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:06 PM EDT

A1 The chase after high scores in standardized tests. Just ridiculous! #ukedchat

UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:06 PM EDT

Why? Just....why? #UKEdChat

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Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:07 PM EDT

A1 Once an admin couldn't understand why #sped Ss taking 3 diff history exams couldn't have the same test read aloud to them... #ukedchat

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:08 PM EDT

This makes my skin crawl just reading it. #ukedchat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:08 PM EDT

Ah, the politicians again! They are experts, as you know 🙄 #UKEdChat

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teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:08 PM EDT

Luckily it was a long time ago, I wouldn't blindly go along with it now lol #ukedchat

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UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:10 PM EDT

A lesson learned #UKEdChat Just goes to highlight that some people seem to be lacking any common sense. How do they get away with it?

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supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Yup! Unfortunately, in Israel the Ministry of Education is led by a politician which moves every 2 years or so and brings his ppl. #UKEdChat

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Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:10 PM EDT

This is the winning question, isn't it!? So many of my days ended with me wondering "how can this happen?" #ukedchat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:11 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 2. What aspect of educational policy or practice do you think is devoid of any common sense? Why?

UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:11 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 2. What aspect of educational policy or practice do you think is devoid of any common sense? Why?

teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:11 PM EDT

11 years on I wouldn't do it now lol #ukedchat

In reply to @Jessicaraealt, @UKEdSch

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:11 PM EDT

Why oh why oh why? #UKEdChat Continuity is needed. As is critique, but some common sense would be great. Just a little bit...please!

In reply to @supervxn

teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:12 PM EDT

At the time I was an NQT #ukedchat

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digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:12 PM EDT

Anything that involves adding numbers to a spreadsheet #UKEdChat Who really benefits from it? The students?

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Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:13 PM EDT

A2 So much of it, honestly. I taught in NYC where a lot of policy seems to be reactive instead of proactive. #ukedchat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:13 PM EDT

A big city, so big problems? #UKEdChat

In reply to @Jessicaraealt

supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:14 PM EDT

Depends. You need to collect data in order to improve. The point is WHAT data and WHY. #UKEdChat

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teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:14 PM EDT

I think it's because people often go along with it without pointing out how ridiculous it is, & SLT blindly change things ect #ukedchat

In reply to @Jessicaraealt, @UKEdSch

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:14 PM EDT

But how can we understand anything if it's not clearly organised in a spreadsheet? 🙄 #ukedchat

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digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:15 PM EDT

One policy doesn't suit all. Different schools have different teachers, teaching different students #UKEdChat One size does not fit all.

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Hist_simulation Jul 13 @ 3:15 PM EDT

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Vivgrant Jul 13 @ 3:15 PM EDT

What steps can School Leaders take to prevent burnout & support themselves in their roles? https://t.co/G9ktNJdl4z #sltchat #ukedchat

supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:15 PM EDT

Oh. So we have that too, I think. The Ministry gives us a template... #ukedchat

In reply to @teacherchalky1, @UKEdSch

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:15 PM EDT

Yes, and how can you collect+share in a way that allows you to spend more time analyzing+acting and less time compiling #ukedchat

In reply to @supervxn, @digicoled, @ukedchat

Refthinking Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Go to https://t.co/IpLhMmPGKM to see a selection now... #ukedchat #freeiPadapps

_theteachr Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

*sigh... wish it was easier to find the questions... #ukedchat

ATaleUnfolds Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Some of the benefits according to our primary teachers https://t.co/3xth4VemZe #ukedchat #primaryrocks

teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

A2 marking for the sake of marking just in case someone looks #ukedchat

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_theteachr Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Scratch that - just found one... #ukedchat

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

Are you using @participate? It's a great way to keep track of the convo during Twitter chats! I'd be lost without it. #ukedchat

In reply to @_theteachr, @participate

_theteachr Jul 13 @ 3:16 PM EDT

A2 - problem is, common sense ain't so common... #ukedchat

KLMorgan_2 Jul 13 @ 3:17 PM EDT

The key with data is using it as information rather than some simply numbers. What gaps? Where? Align with CPD to support teachers #UKEdChat

In reply to @digicoled, @ukedchat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:17 PM EDT

There has to be a better way #UKEdChat We are surrounded by #EdTech, yet the volume of paper used in schools in unbelievable!

In reply to @Jessicaraealt, @supervxn, @digicoled

supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Big Q. In Israel there's a new job: measurement and assessment coordinator. That's their job, but very few are good a it. #ukedchat

In reply to @Jessicaraealt, @digicoled, @ukedchat

digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:18 PM EDT

Ah yes....assessing without levels #UKEdChat 😜

In reply to @KLMorgan_2, @ukedchat

UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:19 PM EDT

But your pupils look....don't they? #UKEdChat

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_theteachr Jul 13 @ 3:20 PM EDT

Changing GCSE grades to 9 to 1, then get this, phasing it in. So this year kids have letters & numbers for grades. Great work! #ukedchat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:20 PM EDT

What skills are required? I'll apply #UKEdChat

In reply to @supervxn, @Jessicaraealt, @digicoled

lcatherine91 Jul 13 @ 3:20 PM EDT

Anything that is externally marked inconsistently resulting in a negative impact on pupils' wellbeing has to be reconsidered. #ukedchat

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supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:20 PM EDT

So you should come! You're welcome here... #ukedchat

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UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:21 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 3. What sort of decision have you been involved in that were entirely grounded by common sense motivations?

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:21 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 3. What sort of decision have you been involved in that were entirely grounded by common sense motivations?

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:21 PM EDT

Completely and 100% agree #UKEdChat How can that be shared for the greater benefit of the teaching profession as a whole across NYC &world?

In reply to @Jessicaraealt

supervxn Jul 13 @ 3:21 PM EDT

You need to be able to appear doing stuff while you do nothing. Looks easy, but actually it's pretty hard. #UKEdChat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:22 PM EDT

#UKedChat - Ah, yes. What, in particular, where you thinking about?

etaknipsa Jul 13 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Most recruitment and retention policy.
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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:23 PM EDT

That SO makes sense......NOT! #UKEdChat - Who thought it would be a good idea? A politician?

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Anything in particular? #UKEdChat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:24 PM EDT

#BookingTicketsNow #UKEdChat

In reply to @supervxn, @Jessicaraealt, @digicoled

AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:24 PM EDT

Bit more PPA time; keep teachers, save time/money on recruiting/supply. #UKEdChat

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:24 PM EDT

A3 Removing department from whole school meetings that weren't directly relevant #UKEdChat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:24 PM EDT

If only you could see me now! LOL! #UKEdChat

In reply to @supervxn, @Jessicaraealt, @digicoled

OhLottie Jul 13 @ 3:25 PM EDT

Er, there are more important factors than name when organising classes – I speak as one of many Claires at school. #survivor 😏#ukedchat

mumsnet_madness Jul 13 @ 4:11 AM EDT

"may even be more likely to attract unkind nicknames as they get older e.g. 'Big' Sophie, 'Fat' Sophie etc."

digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:26 PM EDT

I think retention is actually more important than recruitment #UKEdChat So much expertise leaves the profession. It's criminal.

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:26 PM EDT

#UKEdChat

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:24 PM EDT

Empower teachers, in big and small ways, especially if you are an administrator! It's a small but critical step.
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teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:26 PM EDT

A3 using SOW that have been produced by the exam board to fit the spec #ukedchat

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teacherchalky1 Jul 13 @ 3:28 PM EDT

They do to an extent, but the thought of triple marking....... #ukedchat I think it's more when copied work gets marked

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UKEd_Wales Jul 13 @ 3:29 PM EDT

#UKEdChat

doctorbarnes1 Jul 13 @ 3:28 PM EDT

The use of ESTYN inspectors who have never done a day of teaching in their lives!
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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:29 PM EDT

A2: applying the same policies to each and every subject without allowing for any subject specific deviation #UKEdChat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:30 PM EDT

The problem is money. Newer teachers are cheaper to employ #UKEdChat Older teachers are more expensive. Budgets budgets budgets!

In reply to @etaknipsa, @digicoled, @AllThingsMaths

Vivgrant Jul 13 @ 3:30 PM EDT

5 Ways to Simplify Your Life - Love these tips!! #sltchat #ukedchat #womened #teacher5aday #primaryrocks #edchat

GroundworkEast Jul 13 @ 3:30 PM EDT

Four things to think about before you improve your school grounds #landscapedesign #landscape #ukedchat #CambsHour https://t.co/pv6uhg4pPy

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:30 PM EDT

A decision made by the head of Common Sense? #UKEdChat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:31 PM EDT

#UKEdChat

L_Learners Jul 13 @ 3:29 PM EDT

Testing and data that is unnecessary, rather than trusting a teacher's judgements.
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UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:31 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 4. When is it valuable to deviate from common sense in education?

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:31 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 4. When is it valuable to deviate from common sense in education?

AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:31 PM EDT

Except they're not when considering value for money. Time for support/recruitment... budgeteers are far too short sighted #UKEdChat

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:32 PM EDT

To cover your back? Going off piste can leave you vulnerable #UKEdChat

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Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:32 PM EDT

A4 someone pointed this out earlier: common sense isn't always common, esp when it's something new and unfamiliar #ukedchat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:33 PM EDT

Please remember to use the #UKEdChat tag in your response/s 😇

L_Learners Jul 13 @ 3:32 PM EDT

Going around and around with 'policies' and meetings for weeks rather than just getting something done that takes 2 minutes!
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jonbergmann Jul 13 @ 3:33 PM EDT

#Gamification & #FlippedLearning webinar in 30 min with @Mr_Driscoll https://t.co/ts0U5XhyQT #flipclass #edchat #ukedchat #aussieEd

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:33 PM EDT

Yes. If successful, you are a creative teacher. If it fails, then you have failed #UKEdChat

In reply to @AllThingsMaths

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:35 PM EDT

#failforward #ukedchat

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L_Learners Jul 13 @ 3:35 PM EDT

#ukedchat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:36 PM EDT

So, who and where are the maverick educators then? #UKEdChat

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lcatherine91 Jul 13 @ 3:36 PM EDT

We can become set in our ways in Education. However, we have to be able to take risks & be innovative in order to support pupils. #ukedchat

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:36 PM EDT

Emailed daily with offers of £5000 bonus + subsidised accomm just because I'm maths. And we're subsidising all the supply agencies #UKEdChat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:37 PM EDT

Risks are great, when they pay off #UKEdChat

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:39 PM EDT

But they don't always - hence risk. So supportive culture to try things out #UKEdChat Just because 1 thing fails ≠ failed teacher #UKEdChat

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:39 PM EDT

The world is changing so quickly... and we need to change with it. We don't even know what jobs we're preparing students for #UKEdChat

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UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:41 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 5. How is it possible to teach common sense to our students? Should we?

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:41 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 5. How is it possible to teach common sense to our students? Should we?

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:42 PM EDT

A5 Teaching Ss to be critical thinkers is one way. #ukedchat

AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:42 PM EDT

A5: independent learners! Get 'em to make their own choices and decisions and guide them. Discuss the decisions. #UKEdChat

Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:45 PM EDT

A5 I think this also requires parents, not just teachers. It's important to work together with parents! #ukedchat

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:47 PM EDT

Surely schools can have little impact on that? #UKEdChat

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MindMyEdu Jul 13 @ 3:47 PM EDT

A5 #UKEdChat - teach common sense by using & modeling it in front of class each day. The lessons, the structure, the medium is your message.

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lcatherine91 Jul 13 @ 3:47 PM EDT

And pupils will be part of a world that changes quicker than what we are used to now. Less comfort and more innovation is needed. #ukedchat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:47 PM EDT

They need our guidance? Yes, from us old wise ones, who are oozing with common sense 😜 #UKEdChat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:48 PM EDT

So, it makes sense to teach them with a narrow curriculum then? #UKEdChat 🙄

In reply to @lcatherine91, @AllThingsMaths

AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:49 PM EDT

I think a lovely wide curriculum where concepts are interlinked and students learn how to think and apply #UKEdChat

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lcatherine91 Jul 13 @ 3:50 PM EDT

A5. Collaboration skills are key. Pupils must problem solve together in order to gain a better understanding of the world. #ukedchat

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doc_kristy Jul 13 @ 3:50 PM EDT

A2 suspect I will go against many, after a few yrs of teaching, some in ITT but more once skills embedded & more aware of context #ukedchat

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digicoled Jul 13 @ 3:50 PM EDT

Fundamentally, I think there is a lack of common sense by many in educ due to poor judgement calls #UKEdChat mixed with power & control.

UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:51 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 6. If you were put in charge of 'Common Sense' in your setting, what would be the number 1 priority for change?

ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:51 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 6. If you were put in charge of 'Common Sense' in your setting, what would be the number 1 priority for change?

AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:51 PM EDT

There's lots that can be done to support parents but I think their accountability needs to be increased (contraversial - eek!) #UKEdChat

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:51 PM EDT

A6: pointless meetings #UKEdChat #deathbypowerpoint

MrWaldram Jul 13 @ 3:52 PM EDT

https://t.co/35UjXWlBQR Bacon sandwich-Friday! And Monday. And the occasional midweek snack... #ukedchat

UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:51 PM EDT

#UKEdChat - Question 6. If you were put in charge of 'Common Sense' in your setting, what would be the number 1 priority for change?

doc_kristy Jul 13 @ 3:53 PM EDT

A6 'junk data', generating grades for the sake of grades despite the tests having limited validity #ukedchat

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UKEdSch Jul 13 @ 3:53 PM EDT

OK, but what about the teachers #UKEdchat 🤣

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:54 PM EDT

But, they make pretty graphs, which are really impressive and beautiful for the .... Oh, hang on #UKEdChat 😎

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AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:54 PM EDT

A6: last minute fire fighting. Do it well from the start and avoid all that rubbish last minute in Y11 #UKEdChat

AllThingsMaths Jul 13 @ 3:55 PM EDT

A6: Quit quoting Ofsted - esp when it's a lie to get you to do something that isn't really needed #UKEdChat #onaroll ;)

Maths4ukplc Jul 13 @ 3:56 PM EDT

.@UKEdSch stress importance of thinking. Think before speaking, doing something. Think is something sensible given what they know #ukedchat

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:57 PM EDT

But, more generally, I would put a person in charge of edu policy nationally, who was a teacher previously #UKEdChat Such as @EmmaHardyMP 😜

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ukedchat - Moderator Jul 13 @ 3:58 PM EDT

You have permission to drop them altogether #UKEdChat - You're fired ... Ofsted 👉🏼

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Jessicaraealt Jul 13 @ 3:58 PM EDT

YES. I talk with Ts about this all the time. You. Can. Not. Lead. Teachers. If. You. Have. Not. Taught. #ukedchat

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thinkogram Jul 13 @ 3:59 PM EDT

Feedback: Educational Environment #UKEdchat #Edchat https://t.co/5YpMtvlD9q #education #feedback #gcsemathematics

doc_kristy Jul 13 @ 3:59 PM EDT

A6 I'd also consider 'real time' reporting to reduce pinch points in the year, some subjects eg, MFL test regularly anyway #ukedchat

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