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MrsMurat Feb 1 @ 12:00 PM EST

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:01 PM EST

Welcome to #IOLchat! Who is joining in today? #onlinelearning #onlineteaching #InsideOnlineLearning

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:04 PM EST

A1 grade infl is result of no student left beh & rate my Prof 40% A's really? #iolchat #edchat #highered #education https://t.co/7GPP6wItrC

CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:05 PM EST

Hi Michael! Welcome to the chat this week. #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:06 PM EST

thought I'd get a jump on things... lol #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:06 PM EST

Hello and welcome, Angela! Don't forget to add our chat hashtag: #IOLchat :)

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:07 PM EST

Q1 coming up! .... #iolchat

CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:09 PM EST

Q1) What do (or should) grades represent or tell us about a student? #iolchat

AssignmentHelpN Feb 1 @ 12:10 PM EST

#iolchat #LDchat 17 for ’17: Experts on E-learning & EdTech Trends for 2017 https://t.co/I9aiwWWsrV

massignmenthelp Feb 1 @ 12:10 PM EST

#iolchat #LDchat Project based learning https://t.co/u8MMjb1Oxk

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:11 PM EST

A1 that the S has a stellar grasp of the course? I love this doc on #highered https://t.co/kmLb8ZGn1z #iolchat #edchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:11 PM EST

A1: I'd like to believe level of learning achieved. Maybe idealistic? #iolchat #edtc0560

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:12 PM EST

A1 Ideally grades should reflect SLO acheivement and mastery. Grades may tell conformity or institutionalization #IOlchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:12 PM EST

Hi Paul! Hope all is well with you this week. :) #IOLchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:14 PM EST

Moving forward. Hope you are enjoying the week and a new month. #IOLchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:14 PM EST

Agreed. And is the S working for grades or mastery? #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:15 PM EST

Learning achievement and understanding of material seem to be a consensus here. Agreed! To @smrtang's question -is this idealistic? #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:15 PM EST

2017 seems to be flying already ... #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:16 PM EST

Context may determine if S works for grades or mastery. What does T communicate? What does institution communicate? #IOLchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:14 PM EST

Agreed. And is the S working for grades or mastery? #iolchat
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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:16 PM EST

Intersesting question - grades as a motivator, pros and cons perhaps? #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:18 PM EST

Ss lost their curiosity when #middleschool peers #embarrassed them over asking #Questions #iolchat #edtechchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:20 PM EST

To @philosophypaul's point, grades as a motivator implies T and institution are communicating letter over learning #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:20 PM EST

curiosity leads to learning outcomes,,, Parents pushing for grades #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:21 PM EST

Yes indeed - the overall concern about grades begins well before college. Good point to remember here. #iolchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:23 PM EST

and the msg received = grades more NB than learning :-( #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:23 PM EST

Do parents perceive value of curiosity and creativity or quantitative record? If the latter, may not be allies in learning. #IOLchat

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:20 PM EST

curiosity leads to learning outcomes,,, Parents pushing for grades #iolchat
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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:23 PM EST

I like to connect Creative spaces with mobile edu ie like zoo with animal based course #iolchat https://t.co/1jMzSbRCbI

CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:25 PM EST

Q2) Should we be concerned about rising GPAs in highered? (national trends: https://t.co/m2TckOJTEd) #iolchat

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:26 PM EST

HS Ss are getting 4.5's so need to tackle there as well #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:26 PM EST

A2 Grade inflation can be a temporary fix but a long term tragedy when Ss cannot transfer learning to work, life #IOLchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:27 PM EST

Can you say more about the "temporary fix?" #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:28 PM EST

Seems we expect a grade, a single letter, to convey a lot of different things. #iolchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:28 PM EST

Depends on the reason for the trend. Is it about learning or assessment? #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:28 PM EST

The "transfer learning to work, life" is something I hadn't thought of re: grades, but I see that in some courses. #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:29 PM EST

Thoughts? #gradeinflation RT @smrtang @CenterOnlineEd Depends on the reason for the trend. Is it about learning or assessment? #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:29 PM EST

A2 I'm pushing for Life exp like gap year bef #highered with credit-by-exam my Vlog on subject https://t.co/YVYpcvYrir #iolchat

philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:30 PM EST

A2 2nd reply Push-back on grd. inflation may be Dept. of Ed's expectations for post-graduation career or grad sch #IOLchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:32 PM EST

A2 cont) Are Ss learning the material well or are assessments too easy? How are outcomes measured? #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:32 PM EST

A2 move from test & Sage on Stage to #PBL /#socratic & #experiential learning get results #iolchat

philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:33 PM EST

If #gradeinflation results from assessment, it is the lowering of standards that raises outcomes? #IOLchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:33 PM EST

I like this move, too. It changes the type of assessment as well, another factor in what grades could mean, tell us etc #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:34 PM EST

Hello all - Jennifer from Atlanta..better late than never =( #iolchat

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:34 PM EST

get rid of the curve #iolchat #edchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:34 PM EST

A key question here, I think - does grade inflation = lowering of educational standards? #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:35 PM EST

Hi Jennifer! Great to see you. :) #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:35 PM EST

W #PBL #socratic & #experiential the problem of #gradeinflation should be neutralized #IOLchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:35 PM EST

A1) Wholeheartedly agree Paul. grades tell us how well a S can master the SLO..how good are they at school #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:36 PM EST

instead of grades I'm leaning towards 1st, 2nd etc Ss entering comp's like FRC, state fair etc #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:36 PM EST

"How good are they at school" - great addition to the convo on grades. #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:37 PM EST

A2) I see grade inflation as a huge problem - it has become a "game of school" less about learning - lrng is a side activity #iolchat

jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:37 PM EST

I think we need to move towards performance improvement where it is about applying "on the job" as opposed to testing #iolchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:38 PM EST

Interesting. Expectations, like grds, can take focus away from actual learning. #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:39 PM EST

spelling bee's,, x-prize etc and other forms of learning outcomes with growth #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:39 PM EST

A2) I think you have to look at students holistically - grades/tests/what they are doing in real life #iolchat

CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:40 PM EST

I think we're all getting at something new transcript initiatives are trying to capture - more than just a list of courses, grades #iolchat

jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:41 PM EST

When the first question is "what do I have to do to get an A?"..learning has been lost #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:41 PM EST

Reimagining the College Transcript: https://t.co/nvbnQdmjkq #iolchat

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:42 PM EST

thanx for noticing and Flw thought I'd disrupt a bit on #iolchat today

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:43 PM EST

I'll read this thanx #iolchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:43 PM EST

Do you mean new methods of assessment? #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:44 PM EST

Complements today to transcript is Ss ePortfolio w career objectives, course outcomes, and reflections #IOLchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:44 PM EST

Different* assessment methods, perhaps, but also providing info about activities, growth ... #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:45 PM EST

I think envolvement, Ss teaching Ss and community activity should be apart of grade #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:45 PM EST

Great point..because synthesis is at the top of Bloom's and by far the hardest..what can Ss do with the info? #iolchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:45 PM EST

I see the term standardization and wonder if it brings us full circle in this dicussion? #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:45 PM EST

Absolutely! Portfolios can be really powerful in this way - convey more than just a grade received. Context. #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:46 PM EST

https://t.co/ddHp2ZYUd7 S w/family to restraunt orders meal in Spanish gets a badge and family get 10% bill #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:46 PM EST

How do they tie it all together and make something meaningful? #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:46 PM EST

Example; https://t.co/sc0n9x1hn0 #IOLchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:47 PM EST

I'm working on one right now..and it is one of the hardest things I have had to do academically =( #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:48 PM EST

Sounds like a good writing topic ... ;) #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:48 PM EST

Yes. Have taught. And now taking my own medicine w a portfolio. #IOLchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:48 PM EST

Badgemap Vlog https://t.co/cna3sH8ikh #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:48 PM EST

Thanks for sharing this link! Really like the description. Would be nice to get employers on board, too. #iolchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:49 PM EST

Ditto. Knowing what is important and how to represent learning can be challenging! #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:50 PM EST

Exactly - there's a whole skill set in creating an effective presentation, I think. #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:50 PM EST

That's good..more Ts need to be Ss...I think important lessons to turn back around to help Ss #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:51 PM EST

instead of eport & transcripts since I start in Primary I'm thinking badges like boys scout's #iolchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:52 PM EST

Effective presentation and critical thinking elements. #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:52 PM EST

Badges definitely have a place in this conversation about assessment and demonstration of learning! #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:52 PM EST

Badging has to be appropriate for audience - some adults may not be able to get over the gamification aspect - buy-in #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:53 PM EST

Time for our last Q .... coming up ... #iolchat

philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:53 PM EST

Badges can complement grade process and in some instances hold industry validation. Check w @Melissa_Venable on badges #iolchat

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:51 PM EST

instead of eport & transcripts since I start in Primary I'm thinking badges like boys scout's #iolchat

clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:53 PM EST

Military Generals might take a issue of that LOL #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:54 PM EST

Audience is an important consideration for all the formats we've discussed from grades and transcripts to portfolios and badges. #iolchat

jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:54 PM EST

Make be some importance in the design of the badge and presentation? #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:54 PM EST

Q3) What if we eliminated grades in highered - Is that a good idea? What would it look like? #iolchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:55 PM EST

Agreed! How do they translate to the workforce? #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:55 PM EST

LIke badges not be 2 juvenile but fun #iolchat

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smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:56 PM EST

A skill set difficult to measure using grds. I see the value in reimaging the transcript! #iolchat

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clowningar Feb 1 @ 12:57 PM EST

A3 CompSci use github activity, Com Ss could use what work has been published? etc #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:57 PM EST

A3 W/o grades employers or admission boards for grad. school would scramble for credentials, validation. What form? #IOLchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:57 PM EST

chaos? =) #iolchat

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CenterOnlineEd - Moderator Feb 1 @ 12:58 PM EST

Likely! Kind of fun to think about though. Maybe just eliminate in some courses - more performance based as mentioned. #iolchat

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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:58 PM EST

Grades = worth and value...Most Ss don't know how to measure themselves without that #iolchat

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philosophypaul Feb 1 @ 12:58 PM EST

Reply: transcripts may not track skills. Perhaps apprentice, mastery, journeyman/ journeywoman #IOLchat

smrtang Feb 1 @ 12:56 PM EST

A skill set difficult to measure using grds. I see the value in reimaging the transcript! #iolchat
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jshamsy Feb 1 @ 12:59 PM EST

It would be life altering for both faculty and students -- totally Control>Alt>Delete.... =) #iolchat

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