#Kinderchat Archive

#Kinderchat, glue, glitter, gogurt, bringing daily joy to twitter. Find us Mondays, 9 pm EST and 8:30PM London time when we talk all things Early Years!

Monday January 22, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • MrsMurat Jan 22 @ 9:00 PM EST
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Come out, come out wherever you are! It's #kinderchat time! Say hello, where you are, & what you had for afterschool snack today. #kinderchat
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Kristin, Springfield, VA, and I had a banana as an afterschool snack today. #kinderchat
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Jennifer, Oklahoma...Cookies!😊 #Kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Christine from Southern Alberta, who had a delicious orange after school today. And some ginger honey tea. #coughcough #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Zach, Zeeland Mi. Spicy nacho Doritos #kinderchat
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Laura joining from MN. We had a snow day today, ❄️☃️ so no after school snacks for me! #kinderchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Brett, Lamar, Mo., aspiring k teacher. As far as snacks go... I'm about to break into this Kinder Egg! #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Kathleen from Edmonton co-moderating with my kindered spirit @happycampergirl tonight. My after school snack is LUNCH! #parttime #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Amy here, co-moderating from Calgary w/ @mmekathleen. I skipped afterschool snack and went straight to dinner! #kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hmm. I thought those were contraband items in America?! #kinderchat
    In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:05 PM EST
    HAHAHA! In my school, I call anything with nuts/peanut butter an "illegal" snack. This brings it to a new level! #Kinderchat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @KC_SEASportsFan
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Does that mean you were home super late from school? 😕 #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Not trying to get anyone in trouble, here. I like those cos I like the toys inside! #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @KC_SEASportsFan
  • BethHammett1 Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Read A Holocaust Survivors Digital Doppleganger @ Lesson Cloud Daily ▸ #kids #kinderchat https://t.co/8d9lo29k9i
  • TheMrsBramlett Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Steph here from Converse College, PreService T. I ate Gummie Bears and Popcorn after school. It was my daughters day to choose... and I’m not sorry! 😁 #kinderchat #conversechat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
    They have a version that's legal here in the US now!! The chocolate side is on the left and the toy side is on the right -- separated! #kinderChat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Okay, whew! #kinderchat
    In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
  • theurbanwhisk Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Michelle in Michigan. Was teaching K now "just" mom to a Kinder & Preschooler. Volunteering 1x a week during Daily 5 & learning so much! #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
    It was 5:30-ish, which is about normal for me. #Kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q1: Tell us the first thoughts that run through your mind when you see students in your class engaging in pretend gun play. #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Tonight, we are talking superhero & gun play, based on this article: https://t.co/vSFudmd7Aq . #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Faige from Los Angeles. Beautiful day here as I subbed in 1st grade. Snack my left over croissant cheese from lunch. Then in bed. Still fighting a cold #kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Honestly, it makes me uncomfortable. #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • KristiKayoda Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Kristi, college student from from Orange County. aspiring educator. excited to participate today! #kinderchat
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: I honestly get a little concerned. #kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I think a croissant is better cold medicine than my orange. #kinderchat
    In reply to @dubioseducator
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 Gunplay is contrary to district policy...so my first thought is to quietly redirect. #Kinderchat
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    First ask them what they are playing. My Ss like to play swords or bow and arrows. Try not to extinguish their creativity #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: I do not love gun play. I struggle with it, and with the urge to shut it down immediately. #Kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1. I read the article and they had some valid points but I’m still uncomfortable making guns and gun play #kinderchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: It would make me "edgy" maybe not uncomfortable is the right word but uneasy if that makes sense #KinderChat
  • leclair_t Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
    The COOLEST classroom I have ever been in. Our Preschool 3 Teddy Bear class here at #aisgz get to experience amazing spaceships and become astronauts every single day! Inspiring for the imagination! #makered #futureready #prekchat #Kinderchat #isedcoach @TinaInChina97
  • tiegradloeppky Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Liane from Abbotsford BC. Popping in and out. Had to practice the choir piece for our choral morning next week. Gun play? It doesn't bug me but I believe we have school rules about that. #kinderchat
  • TheMrsBramlett Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: First, I’m uncomfortable. Only because the rest of the world has made it nearly normal to feel that way. But then I immediately remember my VERY first psych course that taught me that children LEARN THEOUGH PLAY! #conversechat #kinderchat
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I also don't want a parent to take it the wrong way if their child says they played "guns" at school. #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Except for Ryan Gosling is really @happycampergirl #kinderchat
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: shut it down. We don’t let our Ss have weapons in school & tell them not to scare us. Read the article & it has good points, but I’m still wary about allowing it #kinderchat
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Watching MSU basketball and following a twitter chat #kinderchat #pln #gogreen #CEP810
  • KristiKayoda Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: it's definitely a bit uneasy. I would try to subtly redirect that type of play #kinderchat
  • tiegradloeppky Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I think since I made my sticks in to guns and swords and bows and arrows as a kid, gun play doesn't bug me too much. I was constantly trying to make a bow out hay bale twine and sticks. CONSTANTLY. #kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I feel like these are different "guns" than those mentioned in the article, dude. #lol #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen, @happycampergirl
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
    BEST TWEET EVER. #Kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: I immediately think of the movie "A Christmas Story." "YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT!" #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Lol! And to think I'm co-moderating tonight. 🙊#kinderchat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @happycampergirl
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Q2: What are some misconceptions teachers and adults have regarding pretend gun play? #kinderchat
  • AssignmentHelpN Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
    7 Effective Habits of Writing the Best College Application Essay https://t.co/EDtWOHuw0P #coascd #eduality #EdVoice #ellchat #iechat #kinderchat
  • St006C Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A1) i want to know what they are seeing/watching, playoffs at Home #kinderchat
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: The kid will grow up to be a mass shooter. #kinderchat
  • KristiKayoda Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: that it can directly lead to and encourage violence #kinderchat
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 pt. 2: The child is disturbed. #kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: That gun play promotes violence and desensitizes children. I know what the article says, but, I do worry about this. #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: that they are pretending its a real gun. Most of the time it is some laser or ice/fire shooter #kinderchat
  • tiegradloeppky Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Yep. That does seem to be the thought, doesn't it. #kinderchat
    In reply to @krissymbutler
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Total tangent, but: I wonder what role gender plays in our discomfort w/gun play? Are male teachers less worried about it? cc @jonfines @mattbgomez. #Kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Great question!! #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Ohh Great question!! #KinderChat
  • St006C Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Same here. #kinderchat
    In reply to @room20awesome
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 I think it's a misconception that all gunplay will lead to future violence...however we live in a different world... #Kinderchat
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Good question! Perhaps they are less worried because it's considered normal for boys to engage in such play. #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • TheMrsBramlett Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Q2: biggest is that “it leads to future violence”...🤮 word vomit right out of my own mouth! I think if more people knew the facts instead of the assumptions and accusations, it wouldn’t make the topic so hard to face. #conversechat #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I tried to see when this article was written and I think the author(s) are from New Zealand. So I really feel a lot depends on the culture and the violence kids have access to whether TV games apps etc. #kinderchat also home life
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @happycampergirl
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: that it could lead to bullying or students not treating each other with respect #kinderchat
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A1. I wonder where did they get that idea from? Who are they shooting? Why are they shooting? #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • TheMrsBramlett Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: biggest is that “it leads to future violence”...🤮 word vomit right out of my own mouth! I think if more people knew the facts instead of the assumptions and accusations, it wouldn’t make the topic so hard to face. #conversechat #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And the "boys will be boys" excuse is a WHOLE other can of worms. *writes idea down for future #kinderchat*
    In reply to @krissymbutler, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Culture is a big part of it. The probably don't have the video games like we do here such as Grand Theft Auto. #kinderchat
    In reply to @dubioseducator, @KeeneeLou, @happycampergirl
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2. Thay students understand what it means to be shot...they truly don't have any idea about the repercussions of those actions. #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I wouldn't say I am less worried. I try to not make it a scene when I talk to Ss pretending to play with guns #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • St006C Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2) that the intentions are harmful. #kinderchat
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2cont. Gun play is different today because of video games young children are playing, a lack of education regarding guns etc. #Kinderchat
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I usually try to ask what else could it be? My students are now really good at making walkie talkies rather than guns... #kinderchat
    In reply to @zacharyTadams, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • PaulSolarz Jan 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    TOPIC: "Using Data to Drive Instruction" Please join @lessonsinfifth TUESDAY at 7pm Central for #5thchat. Everyone welcome! #edchat #education #edtech #cpchat #suptchat #educoach #kinderchat #1stchat #2ndchat #3rdchat #4thchat #6thchat #mschat #mathchat #k12 #LeadLAP #LearnLAP
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Where I live, hunting is a family activity and some of my students would have a real perspective about what it means to be shot #kinderchat
    In reply to @MissTaylorOCT, @happycampergirl
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Our school does frown upon gun play. But kids get around it by saying they’re “lasers or lightsabers” #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I agree that hunting would be a different lense. Unfortunately, my students pretend to shoot bad guys. :/ I grew up in a hunting family. #kinderchat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @happycampergirl
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
    If you're following #kinderchat tonight, please remember to add the hashtag to your tweets so everyone can see you!
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I think they are more exposed to them for sure, but I'm not sure it makes their play any different. #kinderchat
    In reply to @room20awesome
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I feel like I'm holding a double standard when I let the light sabers happen and not the Lego guns. Need to think about that a bit . . . #kinderchat
    In reply to @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    And here's the thing: adult discomfort with something is not enough of a reason to ban or even discourage it. We need to UNDERSTAND it, first. #Kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Mine too. #kinderchat
    In reply to @MissTaylorOCT, @happycampergirl
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q3: If children want to engage in pretend gun play, it is important they create their own pretend gun. Why? #kinderchat
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
    We just tell the kids no weapons. That way it covers everything & they aren’t heading diff rules from diff staff #kinderchat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Few kids got yelled at for it here. I feel like it'd be something they would say something about because parents wouldn't like it if found out about. #KinderChat
    In reply to @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • theurbanwhisk Jan 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A2 We forget kids may not have a clear view of fantasy vs reality. Or have any experience with injury & death. #kinderchat
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Can we ask Ss to make something that would help people rather than hurt people ie. walkie talkie to send for help #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Our discomfort with gun play is related to adult baggage -- Sandy Hook, Columbine -- that is unrelated to the reality of the role of this kind of play. #Kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Great thought! 👌🏻 #kinderchat
    • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
      I feel like I'm holding a double standard when I let the light sabers happen and not the Lego guns. Need to think about that a bit . . . #kinderchat
      In reply to @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: Lego/sticks can be lots of things - not just a gun. There's flexibility and creativity when you make your own #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #A3: I say because it allows the idea for creativity and expression through art. Which is important for children. #KinderChat
  • Toni_Will_loyol Jan 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A2: A misconception is that the kids are imitating something that they think is real, therefore they'll be violent in the future. Kids also pretend to fly. They often imitate what others are doing and what they see on TV, games, and movies. #Kinderchat
  • KristiKayoda Jan 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: creating their own allows it to be transformed into anything they want at any given time. also helps them channel creativity and emotion #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Does the article make you change your mind at all? It states that imaginary gun play is the same as imaginary cake baking... #kinderchat
    In reply to @LauraGarlow, @KeeneeLou, @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    we lived in a gun-free (including toys) house. My broher (most peaceful human I know) made guns out of his bread crusts.... #Kinderchat
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    The kiddos in my class are more violent w/their play...but it has a lot to do with video games & TV that's not age appropriate #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    They do understand some of this because when we had our 1st lockdown drill, my Ss right away said that would be what we’d do if someone had a gun. But with the gun play, I think they have understanding it isn’t real #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: For them, it makes the pretend play seem more realistic, I think. #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
    An aside: if we talk about learning to use our words, self-control etc how does the gun play violence become play exploration and not a way to solve an issue #kinderchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I'm not gonna lie. I feel... I guess uneasy with this topic tonight because... Like... I'm for expression and creativity but... I guess because it has to do with imaginary weapons... #KinderChat
    • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
      #A3: I say because it allows the idea for creativity and expression through art. Which is important for children. #KinderChat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Yes, it's making me less uncomfortable. I highly value imaginative play. I gotta be more openminded #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen, @LauraGarlow, @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
    It does have some good points, I’m still wary about allowing it. I’d have to discuss w/my team too so they aren’t hearing it’s ok from me & getting in trouble from another teacher #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen, @KeeneeLou, @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 Creating their own gun is part of the imaginative process...however I can't allow it in my classroom. #Kinderchat
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: anytime you have a child create they challenge or adapt their prior understanding. They may challenge themselves to pretending using something else #kinderchat
  • TheMrsBramlett Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: Creativity at its finest. Building their imagination right at its core. If they have the ability to use something simple and make it into something so much more interesting just to suffice a few minutes of uninterrupted imaginative play... so be it! #conversechat #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    In a school community decisions can’t be isolated. I would thing that would involve deep discussion on a policy shift. #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen, @LauraGarlow, @KeeneeLou, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    The article compared imaginary gun play the same as imaginary cake baking. Students understand it all as imaginary. #kinderchat
    In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3: if it’s pretend play, I think they have to come up w/everything. Just like when they make up things in house, etc. #kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Has anyone ever had a discussion with their students about this comparison?! I wonder what the kids would say? #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen, @KC_SEASportsFan
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
    My son played guns...we've had toy guns, nurf guns etc...as he's gotten older he's learned to understand and respect gun safety. #Kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Yes, coworker hurdles. I let mine roughhouse outside, and just explain to them my reasoning. Sometimes we agree to disagree. #kinderchat
    In reply to @LauraGarlow, @KeeneeLou, @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I do think some of it is environment too. When I was growing up, my nephews & I played spies and had a huge pile of stick guns in our tree house. We knew that play was ok at home & not at school though #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I think answers would vary based on maturity level of the group, but it would be a super interesting conversation to have! #kinderchat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @KC_SEASportsFan
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q4: You have researched and decided you will allow pretend gun play in your classroom. What rules must the students follow? #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Love this question. I have asked them the purpose of the guns, talked about how they came up with the idea. How they made it. And the usually reassure me it “just pretend” but then they get so rambunctious #kinderchat and at times not safe
    • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM EST
      Has anyone ever had a discussion with their students about this comparison?! I wonder what the kids would say? #kinderchat
      In reply to @MmeKathleen, @KC_SEASportsFan
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: No physical contact with the weaponry #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • krissymbutler Jan 22 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: Definitely being safe, i.e. don't run around the room and jump off furniture. No physical contact with peers. Encourage them to pretend they're cowboys or something along those lines. #kinderchat
  • LauraGarlow Jan 22 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: the biggest rule I would have is that if someone isn’t comfortable w/that play or says stop, they MUST stop. Respect everyone’s feelings of safety #kinderchat
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: Have not done research. School policy is no guns. I redirect and encourage to play something else. I enter into play with them so they know what appropriate play looks like. #kinderchat
  • yperez8080 Jan 22 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Yvonne here, coming in late. PK 4 teacher in TX. #kinderchat
  • KristiKayoda Jan 22 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: create rules for pretend gun play with students. also important that every child involved in pretend gun play consents to thatntype of play #kinderchat
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I have spent time with students talking about how superheroes work...they don't use their powers to hurt others without it being a defense of others who arent able to defend themselves. Superheroes have more self-control, we talked about calm as being a superpower #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
    There is a difference between tolerating and encouraging gun play... Important to think about this. #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4. Also nothing near the face and see if your friend wants to play. When friend says no more then you stop!! And stopping is the BIG challenge when kinders are in full play mode #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I read an article where key rule was asking permission before pretend-shooting anyone. I liked that. #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:43 PM EST
    The question is putting you in the position of having done the research and you are trying out this new imaginary play. #kinderchat
    In reply to @zacharyTadams
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Permission is an absolute "must" for everything, I think #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4: Play must remain in a defined space. There will be ZERO light sabres whacking ZERO innocent heads at the art station. #kinderchat
  • TheMrsBramlett Jan 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4: ...hm. I think it’d be fun to have them do some sort of rule pledge or promise before partaking in the play. Maybe just to keep them aware that it is play, it sure would help families to understand it’s ok and actually normal. #kinderchat #conversechat
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I agree there is a certain feeling that we need to quash this kind of play as soon as we see it. I never saw anything wrong with it until I heard it wasn't allowed at school when I first started supplying. Understanding the WHY we should or should not would help #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Exactly. Use The Force is a proper way, Jedis. #kinderchat
    In reply to @MmeKathleen
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: A rule we have in our classroom for ANY kind of play: all participants must be smiling & checking their friends' responses. #kinderchat
  • MissTaylorOCT Jan 22 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Teaching the importance of consent is crucial as a life skill moving forward. #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4 if I could allow it...we would have to discuss what kind of gun...what purpose...etc. #Kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q5: How would you discuss appropriate pretend gun play with a coworker, supervisor, or parent who disagrees with your point of view in allowing it? #kinderchat
  • yperez8080 Jan 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Even if the students are building spaceships, they attach some sort if weaponry. Its a tough battle. #kinderchat
    In reply to @KeeneeLou, @dubioseducator, @happycampergirl, @JonFines, @mattBgomez
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:51 PM EST
    My favourite lines: "It's ok, Mme Amy, it's not a gun. It's a shooter. It shoots.... boiling hot water that kills bad guys. NOT a gun!" #Kinderchat
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: Let's read the research together. discuss, and see what the advantages may be #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl
  • Toni_Will_loyol Jan 22 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4: Any thoughts on parent permission, as to whether or not their child can participate in "gun play"? #Kinderchat
  • KristiKayoda Jan 22 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5: be open for discussion. see their points as much as you see your own. don't impose #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:53 PM EST
    There is no way a teacher could manage or police who can play what and when, in my opinion. #kinderchat
    In reply to @Toni_Will_loyol
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:53 PM EST
    There are parents who would be uncomfortable with their child playing guns...this would have to be addressed. #Kinderchat
    In reply to @Toni_Will_loyol
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5 I’d talk about the imaginative process, the collaboration with peers. The inherent fun of rough and tumble play as they Pretend. But first I’d make sure I really believed it and right now I’m still on the fence. #kinderchat
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: Step 1: show them this article. #kinderchat
  • KC_SEASportsFan Jan 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: I would start by showing data and research as a starting point (as like anything else) and hear what their concerns are and go from there #KinderChat
    • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q5: How would you discuss appropriate pretend gun play with a coworker, supervisor, or parent who disagrees with your point of view in allowing it? #kinderchat
  • zacharyTadams Jan 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: go into conversation as a listener and leaner, not an enforcer of opinions. Ask their ideas of imaginative play and what that might look like #kinderchat
  • yperez8080 Jan 22 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5: There is a difference between imitation play and pretend play. We need to understand the purpose and be able to help the children develop a plan. Help them develop their play and take it to the next level. #kinderchat
  • happycampergirl - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks to my kinder-ed spirit, @MmeKathleen for finding tonight's topic & article! Next week, @tiegradloeppky moderates re: experiential/outdoor ed. #kinderchat. Join us!
  • MmeKathleen - Moderator Jan 22 @ 9:58 PM EST
    And thank you to @happycampergirl for being my Ryan Gosling. #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @tiegradloeppky, @happycampergirl
  • KeeneeLou Jan 22 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thanks for making me think! #kinderchat
    In reply to @happycampergirl, @MmeKathleen, @tiegradloeppky
  • room20awesome Jan 22 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5 Personally not opposed...but I understand both sides...has 2b a level of respect. Not sure gun play could work n public schl. #kinderchat
  • dubioseducator Jan 22 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thanks @happycampergirl @MmeKathleen Fascinating topic and will reread and share with colleagues. Off to talk with my grandaughter on FaceTime #kinderchat