The topic today is โWhat will the new National Centre for Computing Educationโ mean to you. Earlier this evening I posted some tweets with background info in case you havenโt come across this already! #caschat
Evening all, I'm James. Ex Teacher. Currently work training teachers @Raspberry_Pi . Really excited to hear teachers thoughts on the New National Centre and learn how we can support you more. Had boring cereal for tea :-) #caschat
Iโm Cat, an ex teacher who loves sharing ideas for primary computing curriculum. Currently living in London & I had Chinese takeaway for dinner #caschat
A1: I'm looking for an equal balance across the curriculum. There seems to be a heavy focus on programming support, but in reality this isn't going to get students the top grades. We need support making the rest of the subject just as fun!
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Q1: The National Centre and GCSE/A Level programmes are designed to support all computing teachers with CPD and resources. What topics would you most like support on?
Hi #caschat people! Neil here from sunny-ish Aylesbury. I spend most of my work time at the University of Hertfordshire working with trainee teachers, but do lots of other bits too. Tea was quiche, new pots and veg.... washed down with a Fab ice lolly (just to fit in w the kids!)
Hi Sue, I'm Dave I'm sat in a random Chinese restaurant in North London having just had beef with dry chilli for tea. I'm from Bolton and used to be a teacher but now work for @FireTechCamp where I look after all things Northern and produce content. Based in the NW. #caschat
A1) Very much coming from a primary background but I would say physical computing, problem solving and some good resources to get things going at FS / KS1 if we can get that right the rest will follow! #caschat
A1: I'm looking for an equal balance across the curriculum. There seems to be a heavy focus on programming support, but in reality this isn't going to get students the top grades. We need support making the rest of the subject just as fun!
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A1 #caschat What and where is the new National Center? Will teachers have time to visit it (and wouldn't online resources be more useful?)
Currently drinking coffee and a square of (healthly - that's my excuse) chocolate
Yes, quoting directly from the OCR spec: "Measures and methods to determine the efficiency of different algorithms, Big O notation (constant, linear, polynomial, exponential and logarithmic complexity)" #caschat
A1. I think the mathematical demands of A Level and support creating resources that allow practical opportunities to code using functional programming (I currently use Haskell site but this could be better) #caschat
Q1: The National Centre and GCSE/A Level programmes are designed to support all computing teachers with CPD and resources. What topics would you most like support on?
A1: I feel we have a good set of resources in Primary, I think we need more resources and ideas for Early Years. Also ideas for physical computing, that can be fitted into short lessons, the pressure in timetables can be intense. #caschat
I agree, there's very little out there for primary. If they can see a progression/plan too that would be really helpful, e.g. teach this in Reception, teach this in Year 1. #caschat@BarefootComp is a good start
Q1: The National Centre and GCSE/A Level programmes are designed to support all computing teachers with CPD and resources. What topics would you most like support on?
A1 #caschat I would like help on what a good progression looks like, across all the strands of Computing. What should I be teaching my students in primary that can be built on in secondary to avoid them having to start from scratch.
At primary level, there is still a lot of confusion about what actually needs to be taught. I've heard of some schools just teaching coding & neglecting digital literacy & online safety! Ideas which are cross-curricular are key too #caschat#RememberedTheHashtagForOnce
A1 #caschat I would like help on what a good progression looks like, across all the strands of Computing. What should I be teaching my students in primary that can be built on in secondary to avoid them having to start from scratch.
A1 #caschat I would like help on what a good progression looks like, across all the strands of Computing. What should I be teaching my students in primary that can be built on in secondary to avoid them having to start from scratch.
Yes that would be great - I also think training and support for teachers would be great a little knowledge and teacher confidence will really help get it going it needs to be easily accessible #caschat
#caschat A1 - i think that "the maths" is the biggest challenge. Especially working out how to teach maths at A-Level to non-mathematicians (just because you teach/learn computing does not make you a further maths student)
A1: The NCCE website doesn't mention Early years - https://t.co/YTSJdTucTZ although pupils need to be aware of "programmable toys" (for example) at this age. Is there scope for resources here too? #caschat
I see some interesting stuff here - expectations in each year group (particularly across KS2) is very different from school to school, so I'm sure secondaries just start again! #caschat
I agree with @BarefootComp resources, and also a need for a progression map - transition KS2/KS3 is always an issue for me as our class of 30 go to at least 7 different schools - some have to repeat things. #caschat
I agree, there's very little out there for primary. If they can see a progression/plan too that would be really helpful, e.g. teach this in Reception, teach this in Year 1. #caschat@BarefootComp is a good start
A2: Physical resources to take away, time for practical application and ongoing support.
Also, any recommended software or kit should be free/cheap and easy to install in a standard classroom.
Good grub is a bonus too ;)
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#caschat A2 DON'T JUST TALK AT ME. the most frustrating thing is we are all teachers then go on courses that make us sit there and listen for 6 hours solid. Practical activities all the way. #dontboreus
A2. โ Practical and immediately applicable โ elements of aspiration to spark creative ideas โ resources to use in the classroom โ back up support for when you go home โ the opportunity to network and share ideas #caschat
A1: The best CPD I have been to by far is Picademy and CAS Conference London. I'd like an A-Level teachmeet style event - here is what I do well and here is an interactive session and / or resources to help you teach it #caschat
I had 14 different schools in one year 7 class! Ranged from bored to death of scratch, loved scratch, never heard of scratch. Nothing else. Most never heard of Word. Lesson 1 - log in, get a file from the network and save it. Twas haha, interesting. #caschat
A2 practical activities mixed with good knowledgable inspiring presenter. Something to take away and be excited to use. Time to embed and review at a later stage to evaluate its success. #CASChat
A2: Physical resources to take away, time for practical application and ongoing support.
Also, any recommended software or kit should be free/cheap and easy to install in a standard classroom.
Good grub is a bonus too ;)
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A2. โ Practical and immediately applicable โ elements of aspiration to spark creative ideas โ resources to use in the classroom โ back up support for when you go home โ the opportunity to network and share ideas #caschat
A2. For the teacher to not only come away having understood, but to come away with resources that they can practically apply and use with their classes the next day #caschat
A2) I think with NCCE it will be good to try and aim CPD at non specialists or design it so that the subject leader can take it back into school and share with staff (ie train the trainers) it needs to get to a wide audience to have impact for as many children as poss #caschat
#caschat A1 trying to find any A-Level theory courses is impossible. National stem centre cancelled 2 courses on us. I'm having to do all the training "in house" at the moment, it's another job (and i'm completely self taught for some of the stuff)
A2 #caschat Relevant to my teaching. It has to have applications I can use in class the next time I teach, then I see the value quickly. And will use again.
Great idea! As a secondary teacher, I'd like to know more about what is covered at primary so I can challenge all students as soon as they arrive #caschat
A2. ready to use resources that you can take away. Hands on workshops (not lectures), networking, time off school to attend and time off to integrate ideas into your school (never heard of the latter happening) #caschat
Hi Ben - at Raspberry Pi we will be working on the A Level programme and Maths is a key priority - if you look at @isaacphysics the CS programme will be similar. #caschat
A2 For me, it is opportunities for both theoretical and practical activities, which allow you deepen your understanding, yet also being applicable in the classroom #caschat
A2 CPD needs to facilitate a positive long term impact on the teacher; provide a toolkit / resources that can be used with the pupils / students in the short term; link to examinable content / skills #caschat
Pedagogy alongside subject knowledge - over the last 4 years so much has been learned about how to teach Primary Computing, but much of this knowledge does not reach the primary class teacher #caschat
Easy to access content, even step by step instructions for those not so confident, make it easy to start with then perhaps have more content that will allow teachers to go create when they feel able to do so #caschat
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@CodeBoom, @LMcUnderwood, @BarefootComp
Something concrete as in a reminder of what was covered, maybe an accompanying CPD guide book, along with digital access to resources for use in the classroom.
Would love kit, but also understand this is much more costly to provide ;)
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I'd say even just logging into the Barefoot site puts teachers off. Honestly, we're dealing with some adults who have little or no digital skills. Putting a powerpoint behind a login can hamper them #caschat
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@CodeBoom, @martincaddy, @BarefootComp
We still have a number of Year 1s swiping the monitors rather than picking up the mouse, and here we are at the end of November :) #learningcurve#caschat
#caschat i/we've done a backwards plan from KS5 back to KS3. but as well focusing ks3 on "soft skills" - my head was amazed when he walked into a Y7 class and we were teaching them how to save a file and send an email. He thought this was embedded in primary!
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@Mr_Comp_Sci, @CatLamin, @suesentance, @duck_star
A1: The best CPD I have been to by far is Picademy and CAS Conference London. I'd like an A-Level teachmeet style event - here is what I do well and here is an interactive session and / or resources to help you teach it #caschat
#caschat hands on whilst learning new techniques, discussing application/implimentation with others whilst writing a quick lesson plan so have something to take away!
Great idea! As a secondary teacher, I'd like to know more about what is covered at primary so I can challenge all students as soon as they arrive #caschat
I agree, pedagogy at a secondary level is just so important. As well as subject knowledge there has to be a rigorous understanding of the pedagogical approaches to teach CS. We need to grown out of the shadow of the ICT legacy and the โall about me powerpointsโ #caschat
I know I'm behind, but I would like the Centre to reach out to primaries who don't have access to specialist teachers too... connecting schools #caschat
We still have a number of Year 1s swiping the monitors rather than picking up the mouse, and here we are at the end of November :) #learningcurve#caschat
Yeah. I was chatting to a secondary trainee today and he had spent a few lessons showing the new Y7 pupils features such as WordArt, how to highlight the background of text, etc. They thought it was "awesome" and new to the majority of children #caschat
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@SwayGrantham, @duck_star, @suesentance
#caschat A1 not sure it is topics per say I think that the development of skills and confidence to explore around the subject, not teaching from the powerpoint but something more physical, that's when Computing will really take off, when teachers are confident
A2) Do we have a chance to be inspirational with this ie This will support children in the future because it will give them these key skills rather than OFSTED expect to see...... #caschat
Yes. Approaches in classroom often overlooked. Ideas for how to teach topic x (in a way that is engaging and that can be grasped by as many students as possible), not just *what* to teach. Often on a budget of 10 pence. #CASchat
#caschat there is also A LOT of courses that are Python orientated. However it doesn't really relate to A-Level as the complexity required for A-Level doesn't really suit python
Nope, these skills have to be taught in year 7. Until primaries get proper networks with user accounts for students, we will still have to teach the basics! #caschat
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@Mr_G_ICT, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @CatLamin, @suesentance, @duck_star
It needs to be interactive. In my experience being talked out doesn't work. Give the teachers chance to get hands on and they will leave enthused. #caschat a2
umm.. any? #caschat A3 Not sure what you mean! Resources that you can share with pupils as well as learn from yourself. Especially at A-Level. Anything you can reuse with pupils saves time and effort
Not being lectured like an imbecile. There are many skilled teachers out there whose subject knowledge exceeds that of the trainer yet are not catered for. Oh and no pointless group activities please. Drives me insane when am told "discuss this slide for 2 mins " #caschat
#caschat no school gives you time to go and train staff in school. It's almost better to send people on an expensive course because they won't give you time to plan and train #toonegative
Iโm happy to say we have strong links with our feeders and work closely with them to both support CS and understand what students should know once they teach us #caschat
A2. Picademy has been the best CPD I've been on to date. Experts on hand, engaging teaching with resources to use, but also TIME allocated for teachers to build their own resources with the experts on hand to support...perfect! #caschat
#caschat still lots of primaries unwilling to connect, do not place much value on computing. Still a massive disparity in provisions. @CAS_Manchester spoilt us with their support but there a real gaps nationwide A3
I know I'm behind, but I would like the Centre to reach out to primaries who don't have access to specialist teachers too... connecting schools #caschat
A3: A cohesive and progressive scheme of work using a knowledge rich curriculum, lots of online/self-marking quizzes to accompany topics, and trillions of unplugged activities for all topic areas
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I agree. Iโm assuming students can open and save files by the time they get to Year 7 but then realising that for many students, they have mostly been on iPads and have no idea about network areas.
I'd say even just logging into the Barefoot site puts teachers off. Honestly, we're dealing with some adults who have little or no digital skills. Putting a powerpoint behind a login can hamper them #caschat
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@CodeBoom, @martincaddy, @BarefootComp
I know I'm behind, but I would like the Centre to reach out to primaries who don't have access to specialist teachers too... connecting schools #caschat
A3) Scheme of work with quality resourced activities and progression built in, however I always like to be able to go create to meet the needs of a class so leave space for that as well #caschat
#caschat I agree Computing is complex there is no one aspect that in a day you are going to master, it is the hand-holding and self exploration that is important, empowering teachers to have a go. Time is the key and this is why #picademy and #exabytes17 was so good
It needs to be interactive. In my experience being talked out doesn't work. Give the teachers chance to get hands on and they will leave enthused. #caschat a2
Rarely if at all! I have only met one primary school and that's when they came for an inspiring afternoon with us and our raspberry pis. I hope through events such as CAS hubs or joint school insets for subject specialists #caschat
I frequently get asked 'how do you know this stuff?', 'where do you find out?' and that's hard to explain...it's a bit of everywhere, including Social Media and being connected #caschat
We've been working to present Computing as a holistic subject without the arbitary divide between CS,ICT and DL. This now underpins a lot of the work the NCCE are developing. #caschat
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@Mr_Comp_Sci, @Mr_G_ICT, @CatLamin, @suesentance, @duck_star
A3 Resources that are provided should include teacher and student versions. Questions and mark schemes that align to the way exam boards set questions - whilst a pupil given answer in an exam may be correct, if it is not in the examiners marks scheme, it is not correct! #caschat
Joining #caschat a bit late tonight! Iโm Mia, originally trained as primary teacher, now working as a Learning Technologist in FE. Had a hearty mushroom bourguignon for tea!
Part of the remit of the National Centre is a comprehensive resource repository from KS1 - KS4 - including non-GCSE Courses. Hence Q4 is about what resources would REALLY help you #caschat
A3: A cohesive and progressive scheme of work using a knowledge rich curriculum, lots of online/self-marking quizzes to accompany topics, and trillions of unplugged activities for all topic areas
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#caschat A1 not sure it is topics per say I think that the development of skills and confidence to explore around the subject, not teaching from the powerpoint but something more physical, that's when Computing will really take off, when teachers are confident
Properly good, diagnostic, written topic papers with clear explanations of misconceptions (examiner style)and clear explanation of why the correct answer is correct. I know there is project Quantum, but Iโd like more than just MCQs and there are just no past papers #caschat
Very interested to learn more about this idea. It got me thinking.... The widely agreed split of 3 comes from CAS documents, from the early days #caschat
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@LegoJames, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @Mr_G_ICT, @CatLamin, @suesentance
Q4: Local support is built into the National Centre, with regional Computing Hubs plus all the existing local CAS Hubs. What support do you need locally? (or can you give to others?) #caschat
Simple - a cradle to grave online IDE tied to curriculum with pupil tracking by unique learner number that kids could move school with. @replit meets @Codecademy meets @codeorg#caschat
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@suesentance, @replit, @Codecademy, @codeorg
Q4: Local support is built into the National Centre, with regional Computing Hubs plus all the existing local CAS Hubs. What support do you need locally? (or can you give to others?) #caschat
I think more training and support (over a period of time e.g. coaching/mentoring) is the greatest workload reduction without compromising on quality. Planning etc. being provided still takes ages if you don't know what you're teaching. Same with resources #caschat
ALSO, and this is very important to me - resources that encourage and foster #resilience in students. Especially nervous newbie programmers, who fear the Red Traceback Of Death if they make a syntax error in #Python. #caschat
#caschat C# is my favourite as it's industry standard and it matches a lot of other langauges(Java, PHP, Javascript). I prefer VB as well for it's formal notation. I agree with Stuart too. it also links to unity for a unity course as a bit of extra teaching.
A4: Training resources and speakers for local CAS Hub events, plus a bit of funding for refreshments & snacks wouldn't go amiss.
Even meeting once per term can be difficult for some, we need to make the meetings as attractive and useful as possible so teachers attend
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#A2#caschat effective CPD should fire up your passion and desire to share what you have learnt with other teachers and also prompt you to try something new the next day.
A4. Geographically accessible locations, access and support from local universities perhaps, opportunities to collaborate with other local teachers. Access to loan equipment/hardware #caschat
A4 #caschat. I am happy to support any way I can and run @StrictlyComp1 but most of it has to be voluntary, outside of the school day as my school don't see any value in releasing me in work hours
Q4: Local support is built into the National Centre, with regional Computing Hubs plus all the existing local CAS Hubs. What support do you need locally? (or can you give to others?) #caschat
A4) The southwest is miles form anywhere and a long distance across (I've just driven for 90 mins today and was still in Devon!) More virtual networking opps and more events like the SW conference we had a couple of weeks ago. #caschat
It would be nice if when we run events like #CyberSecurity days and offer them out for free to other schools, that they actually responded or better, turned up! Schools need to collaborate not compete, so Heads need made aware of that #caschat#A4
Properly good, diagnostic, written topic papers with clear explanations of misconceptions (examiner style)and clear explanation of why the correct answer is correct. I know there is project Quantum, but Iโd like more than just MCQs and there are just no past papers #caschat
A lot of GCSE pupils will already know #python. With resources such as #GUIZero#PyGameZero etc, this helps to build upon the understanding pupils already have. I give free choice to the language used for project, but learning another language seems counter-intuitive. #caschat
#caschat GCSE CS. more electronic worksheet resources which combine the programming units of the syllabus with interactive activities i.e flowcharts, Pseudocode, trace tables, programming language. I seem to spend ages creating my own using a combination of books and online tools
A3: Something made by another teacher or someone who knows what it is ike being in a classroom. I need a baseline to differentiate resources for my classes but at least a starting point. #caschat
I've always spent a lot of time connecting teachers in my local area, but with non-specialist primary teachers, computing is such a small part of their workload that it's tricky for them to make the time to attend. Even checking online routes is hard! #caschat
Very much agree - I have put on physical computing sessions for primary teachers with hands on practical sessions and had no takers. As a hub leader it is very difficult to get more than a few primary teachers attending. #caschat
A4: We would love to help! We need support in recruiting teachers (who can teach A-Level), access to academic research and reading, and marketing to make sure people can come to sessions you take time planning #caschat
Yeah we are massively benefitting from free @Office365 and @OneNoteEDU - embedding worksheets into #classnotebook removes need for downloading files as you save direct to the notebook #caschat#A4
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@Mr_G_ICT, @OkComputing, @Vanderpere, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @CatLamin, @suesentance, @duck_star, @Office365, @OneNoteEDU
#caschat i think the fact that computing is more examined, a lot of schools throw baby out with bathwater and forget the soft skills because others are examined content #wholestudent#hiddencurriculum
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@duck_star, @LegoJames, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @CatLamin, @suesentance
A3: Some kind of agrees upon set of skills for primary and secondary computing so we had a baseline of what students know when they come to us and can help them get to GCSE level and beyond! #caschat
A4: Agreed. Also can we upgrade/replace the Forum on the CAS website and launch a better social media service (NOT Facebook!) e.g. using Meetup, Medium or a bespoke app #caschat
#caschat A3: resources that can be adapted for accessibility. Support with ensuring evidence can be marked in line with school policies without death by printing. Or a Tardis with a Lazarus Pit so we can do it all and not age.
I've always spent a lot of time connecting teachers in my local area, but with non-specialist primary teachers, computing is such a small part of their workload that it's tricky for them to make the time to attend. Even checking online routes is hard! #caschat
Very much agree - I have put on physical computing sessions for primary teachers with hands on practical sessions and had no takers. As a hub leader it is very difficult to get more than a few primary teachers attending. #caschat
Universities always have the latest tech. An investment into a hub for a classroom full of VR kit, or Console dev kits, or motion capture, or Unity powered machines, or something. #caschat
I feel like part of the curriculum needs to focus on digital citizenship i.e. how to be a responsible user of the Internet. It's all very well knowing not to talk to strangers, but kids also need to know that sending 350 emails a day is not ok! And emojis are not cool ๐ #CASchat
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@Jon_Torbitt, @Mr_G_ICT, @OkComputing, @Vanderpere, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @suesentance, @duck_star, @Office365, @OneNoteEDU
#caschat#A4 I think it is important that CAS hubs are definitely open to teachers who may not come from the traditional CS/IT route. Eg how do you welcome in other teachers who find themselves teaching CS.
Simple - a cradle to grave online IDE tied to curriculum with pupil tracking by unique learner number that kids could move school with. @replit meets @Codecademy meets @codeorg#caschat
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@suesentance, @replit, @Codecademy, @codeorg
#caschat getting out of school for CPD is almost impossible, I think it is fabulous that opportunities are here/coming and places like #STEMlearningUK offer bursaries ,yet the cost of being released for a day even for free courses is a barrier
Love it! Can't wait to see how that works! I know it's on CAS but not everyone is or not everyone can spend time updating resources on the website...It would be great to have a local group of teachers who you know are interested in upskilling and supporting each other #caschat
I'd love to see some ideas/resources/help for teachers who are not teaching CS but could easily use it in their lessons, e.g. science, DT projects #caschat
Very much agree - I have put on physical computing sessions for primary teachers with hands on practical sessions and had no takers. As a hub leader it is very difficult to get more than a few primary teachers attending. #caschat
#caschat - it's what the employers i work with ask for. they want C# and agile methodologies, so i teach that. if tomorrow everyone asked for python programmers, i'd look to that. the formal notation of C# suits other languages and aids with teaching things like data types.
A1 when the new curriculum came in, I found there was a lot of focus on the CS strand, and the other strands were often forgotten - So CPD that covers IT and Digital Literacy too! #caschat
Q4: Local support is built into the National Centre, with regional Computing Hubs plus all the existing local CAS Hubs. What support do you need locally? (or can you give to others?) #caschat
great starter! Pity there isn't a good typing program anymore. The Beeb's one is OK, but if you could use Typing Of The Dead .... sure that would get kids going .... #caschat
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@alearninglife, @duck_star, @suesentance
I feel like part of the curriculum needs to focus on digital citizenship i.e. how to be a responsible user of the Internet. It's all very well knowing not to talk to strangers, but kids also need to know that sending 350 emails a day is not ok! And emojis are not cool ๐ #CASchat
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@Jon_Torbitt, @Mr_G_ICT, @OkComputing, @Vanderpere, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @suesentance, @duck_star, @Office365, @OneNoteEDU
A4 From the point of view of delivering support locally, it would be great if the NCCE handled up to date mailing lists and contacts as well as effective marketing so that those teachers who really need support know about it. I hope this is what will happen anyway. #caschat
A5 a couple of areas for me - whatโs happening in the schools which are not engaging in @CompAtSch or similar? How can a more #STEAM based curriculum benefit computing? #caschat
#caschat we are (almost) completely paperless. if they did exams on a computer, i'd do them on O365 as well. we scan all exams done on paper into O365 and put them in their section headings. We've found it's made a masssive difference at ksy stage 3 to engagement and literacy
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@OkComputing, @Vanderpere, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @CatLamin, @suesentance, @duck_star
I think it is a mix of many things. Time, Confidence in the subject (or should I say fear) and the lack of SLT expectations around computing in primary #caschat
#caschat A5 Studies that show what really, really works, what has some effect, what there is no evidence yet to support and what has been proven to have marginal to no effect.
A5 - How the building blocks of the subject fit together. More traditional subjects have establish clear progression paths. Do we know what ours are? #caschat
OMG, exercise books would be AMAZING!
I think sometimes we forget that even in computing we need to encourage student's writing skills and it helps for them to have something physical to refer to/revise from.
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@Vanderpere, @Mr_G_ICT, @OkComputing, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @CatLamin, @suesentance, @duck_star
A5 - How the building blocks of the subject fit together. More traditional subjects have establish clear progression paths. Do we know what ours are? #caschat
ooo research results can be convoluted. I like @CoderDojo short snappy girl's guide. Here's some ideas on what to do for problem X based on the research we've done. If you want to show the research you've done, that's fine... but please, give us the results/ideas first! #caschat
I'd love to see some ideas/resources/help for teachers who are not teaching CS but could easily use it in their lessons, e.g. science, DT projects #caschat
A5. We need research that has been conducted to the same level other more well established subjects. We need to have a better understanding of how to address common misconceptions to students of various different levels of confidence, ability and backgrounds #caschat
I feel like part of the curriculum needs to focus on digital citizenship i.e. how to be a responsible user of the Internet. It's all very well knowing not to talk to strangers, but kids also need to know that sending 350 emails a day is not ok! And emojis are not cool ๐ #CASchat
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@Jon_Torbitt, @Mr_G_ICT, @OkComputing, @Vanderpere, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @suesentance, @duck_star, @Office365, @OneNoteEDU
The Primary teachers' Facebook Computing group seems to be where more generalist teachers engage with conversations about the subject, which often includes the sharing of classroom tested resources. #caschat
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@LegoJames, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @tech_magpie, @GirlGeekUpNorth, @suesentance
ooo research results can be convoluted. I like @CoderDojo short snappy girl's guide. Here's some ideas on what to do for problem X based on the research we've done. If you want to show the research you've done, that's fine... but please, give us the results/ideas first! #caschat
A5. We need research that has been conducted to the same level other more well established subjects. We need to have a better understanding of how to address common misconceptions to students of various different levels of confidence, ability and backgrounds #caschat
Endless scope with custom challenges, expanding beyond curriculum, competitions, combining with art, dt etc. Just needs content. Look at @immersivelabsuk as e.g. they have a model power station in their office you can hack to turn the lights off from the website! #caschat
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@LegoJames, @suesentance, @replit, @Codecademy, @codeorg, @immersivelabsuk
A5 a couple of areas for me - whatโs happening in the schools which are not engaging in @CompAtSch or similar? How can a more #STEAM based curriculum benefit computing? #caschat
#caschat A4 opportunities for Comp teachers from different backgrounds/specialisms to share their expertise to upskill across all strands. Need IT skills including admin & design as well as CompSci, the skewed curric means pupils might miss out on useful work-related learning.
We do a lot of work on expectations for online work in KS2 and the face that standards should be the same online and off. However, many schools didn't teach things like that before 2014 let alone after with everything else to learn! #caschat
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@misskteague, @CatLamin, @Jon_Torbitt, @Mr_G_ICT, @OkComputing, @Vanderpere, @Mr_Comp_Sci, @suesentance, @duck_star, @Office365, @OneNoteEDU
We have physical computing as part of our DT cycle. Students build crumble robots over a series of weeks. Our DT technician even built some modular chassies with velcro....the kids love it! #caschat
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I think we need to weave programming and theory. If weโre really smart about it, we could create a self reinforcing curriculum that builds from binary outwards. #caschat
And how do we get that into the hands of teachers? What form should it take? I'm assuming teachers don't have time to be reading and evaluating papers? #caschat
A5. We need research that has been conducted to the same level other more well established subjects. We need to have a better understanding of how to address common misconceptions to students of various different levels of confidence, ability and backgrounds #caschat
I suspect we may have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel like it's part of computing, but then I feel like computing as a whole needs to be looked at in a cross curricular way in primary schools so why not look at digital citizenship as a crossover topic ๐ #CASchat
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I feel like part of the curriculum needs to focus on digital citizenship i.e. how to be a responsible user of the Internet. It's all very well knowing not to talk to strangers, but kids also need to know that sending 350 emails a day is not ok! And emojis are not cool ๐ #CASchat
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A5) There should be space for specialists and non specialists to trial things in the classroom, learn by experimentation and mistakes evaluate, refine and then publish, get the children involved in feedback, its how software is developed after all #caschat
A2 the best CPD Iโve had is when weโve had the opportunity to play with the tech and experience activities and resources as if we were the kids. Active learning, experimentation and a bit of fun! #caschat
Yes that really would be useful - there has been some recent research indicating that language/linguistic skills were very relevant to computing #caschat
#caschat wait a while. Next ks4 exam will be computer and at ks5 it is. Onenote is again an industry tool, so we are preparing students for a world outside school (my parent governor is in it in the real world and loves it)
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It's good for a quick one but you can never find a resource again! CAS is amazing but there are so many resources you almost need a tried and tested review feature #caschat
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I used exercise books with GCSE and they were extremely popular. One side theory, turn upside down, one side programming. Also made a good syntax reference. #caschat
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Agree with Neil - it's an interesting group as the people there seem much more willing to admit complete ignorance and are happy to learn from each other. There is a sense that if you admitted failure on some platforms you would be mocked #CASChat
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BTW we have to change our names from Hubs, as the new NCCE centres are going to be called Hubs! We therefore wish to be known as the Manchester Computing Autonomous Collective :) #caschat
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What we need is someone to go through a proper evidence base and check the robustness of findings and the limitations. Then we can ask โwhat goes this look like in the classroom?โ #caschat#nofads
I feel like part of the curriculum needs to focus on digital citizenship i.e. how to be a responsible user of the Internet. It's all very well knowing not to talk to strangers, but kids also need to know that sending 350 emails a day is not ok! And emojis are not cool ๐ #CASchat
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I've been trying to build a dependency graph for a level topics to better inform planning. Would be a good thing for @WeAreComputing to produce. #caschat
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That's brilliant! Also with the majority of schools having some kind of VLE it's easier for students to contact teachers and they need to know the etiquette #caschat
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Remember in all this #caschat that you need willing SLT to back you, and willing ICT Network/Managers to enable it for you too. Handy to have resources, especially for primary in setting up schools to setup and enable you .....
That might be useful on a departmental level. Target setting is a bug bear in schools. Do we know if there is a correlation between attainment in some subjects and computing? #caschat
A5) There should be space for specialists and non specialists to trial things in the classroom, learn by experimentation and mistakes evaluate, refine and then publish, get the children involved in feedback, its how software is developed after all #caschat
#caschat you should see some of my onenote's, SO much better than any exercise book, the detail and quality i'm getting surpasses what i used to get in a textbook, they can't get lost and it's better to assess. no scraps of paper stuck in books.
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I use O365 at A-Level, just a barrier in my setting for girls and measurement of being a properly academic subject. Weโre the victim of OCR nationals and the poor factory farm teaching that went alongside it #caschat
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Could NCCE host a platform like that or is it outside the remit? In the old days the standards site (I know some will still remember them fondly or not) were a great point of reference for Lit and Maths could NCCE build something similar? #caschat
It would be good for NCCE to allow schools to showcase what they do too... there may be some brilliant practice just down the road but we might not know #caschat
Possibly seeing if there is lessons that can be learnt in both directions from research done in HE on teaching programming. The 2-way conversation, I feel, would be good for both - I learn a lot from #caschat that I use in teaching 1st year UG - definitely NOT saying HE know best
This is true, but I've embraced the concept of PRIMM that @suesentance has developed. It's a concept that is easy to grasp and apply to multiple units of work we teach. I was also given a series of 10 ready to use PRIMM lessons on introducing Python to Y9/Y10 students #caschat
Bonus) The NCCE could hopefully pull a lot of great work that is already going on together under one umbrella and be a once in a generation opportunity to boost CS across the country #caschat
A6: Iโm looking forward to the future, partnership and support for an important subject. I hope it will link everything together to showcase Computing. #caschat
That's the plan, take what we know already and ensure it underpins everything. Continue to develop, learn and iterate the CPD, content, timings etc #caschat
I think a balance is needed. We lot sof EAL and PP students who are weak in literacy so ALL subjects have to work together to promote skills in reading & writing. Just because I teach computing doesn't mean I get out of it, especially as GCSE's are on paper...
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A5 Coordinating simple research activities based in the classroom across multiple schools. The #NCCE could collate and interpret results across these multiple schools to identify best practice in numerous research activities. We do a similar thing in our local region. #caschat
Totally believe in the idea of books and used this when I was a practicing teacher, something to revise from and also something they have โcreatedโ crafted all year long. #caschat
OMG, exercise books would be AMAZING!
I think sometimes we forget that even in computing we need to encourage student's writing skills and it helps for them to have something physical to refer to/revise from.
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It would be good for NCCE to allow schools to showcase what they do too... there may be some brilliant practice just down the road but we might not know #caschat
Q6: Resources! As a trainee, I'm finding it difficult to find resources, and I have very little time to produce my own from scratch considering I have assignments and Evidence to gather. #caschat
A5 Coordinating simple research activities based in the classroom across multiple schools. The #NCCE could collate and interpret results across these multiple schools to identify best practice in numerous research activities. We do a similar thing in our local region. #caschat
#caschat A6 Recognised as a one-stop-shop for everything PD related by all the profession free of commercial control, where everyone's contributions no matter how small are welcome and a life span that extends well beyond the current funded period.
A6. To be given time...to learn, to develop (resources and subject knowledge), to teach....
The things we were all passionate about doing when we joined the profession #caschat
#caschat maybe it's more about choosing which progression routes are appropriate for the pupils since computer use is ubiquitous in such a range of careers that we can't cover all of them?
Direction, support, embedding of a life skill subject in all schools that has effective transition from primary to secondary thats available & accessible to all teachers & therefore students ๐ oh & most looking forward to having fun, learning lots on the journey #lovemysubject
Shame. I have got a degree 20 years ago and in No way feel equipped to teach some A level subjects well and have zero physical computing skills #CASChat
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A6 - collaboration with the industry who are ultimately going to benefit from all of this activity. Sponsorship, apprenticeships, sabbaticals.... #caschat
I think primaries would benefit from more working relationships and less 'course-based' activities. Even an audit (with a 'specialist') which leads to an action plan...where do they start? Resources? Training? Planning? Engagement? #caschat
