#edchatME Archive
A Maine-based Twitter presence for a network of educators everywhere.
Monday April 25, 2016
8:30 PM EDT
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Tonight's focus is clear & effective communication (hereafter "CEC"): constructing & conveying meaning in context & across media.
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#EdChatME
! Tonight we start exploring Maine's "Guiding Principles"
https://t.co/9xVoHoZnk1
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A reminder to
#EDU300USM
-
#edChatME
drops right now!
@MisterCMaine
#PSTMaine
Join us,
@WellsHS_ATeam
,
@sschatzabel
!
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Good evening and welcome back from vacation,
#Edchatme
! Matt-Curriculum Coord fr/
@AOS94ME
.Fresh off an
#awesomesauce
day w/
@RubiconAtlas
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Let's start with the usual: who are you, what do you do, and for fun: any big plans for the summer?
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Sean, tech integrator from Dover-Foxcroft
#Edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Jennifer, H.S. Math in Cumberland. Helloooooo
#edchatme
! Welcome back from break! But summer? Summer?! Summer is an eternity away!
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Jon Pratt, Asst. Head for Academics
@foxcroftacademy
really looking forward to the next 5 weeks of
#EdChatME
Guiding Principles Deep Dive!
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hi everyone at
#EdChatMe
! Becca from WOCSD and USM here! I tech career prep, English and
#EdTech
. Summer? So far away I can’t plan yet!
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hey
@Sean_Malone
glad you could make it to
#EdChatME
tonight!
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hey
#edchatme
folks, Dan Ryder, Eng T
@MBCampus
, who enjoys comic books & deep dives into Netflix, Hulu & Amazon
https://t.co/gb9N6eViN0
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Let's start with the usual: who are you, what do you do, and for fun: any big plans for the summer?
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Summer starts with
@MooseCampME
! June 21
@foxcroftacademy
!! A PBE-themed
#edcamp
. Registration now open!
https://t.co/bowwmjbb5H
#edchatme
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Elizabeth, K-5 principa. SoPortland, paddleboard and travel--Galapagos this summer!
#edchatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Summer starts with
@MooseCampME
! June 21
@foxcroftacademy
!! A PBE-themed
#edcamp
. Registration now open!
https://t.co/f63UeYZRvO
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
We'll be settling in to our new home in Bangor this summer, so I'm excited!
#EdChatME
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hello
#EdChatME
Merri joining tonight excited to delve into Guiding Principle #1
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I'm taking a class in school law this summer, design coaching at the super rad Field Guide, and who knows what all else
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Q1: Why is it essential that students leave school as a clear and effective communicator?
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Conducting 3D printing camps
#EDChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Woah,
@ehfowler7
that's awesome - Galapagos is bucket-list material!
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@ehfowler7
Galapagos!?!
#colormeboomimpressedface
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
#EdChatME
Q1
https://t.co/hVEDsDa0yw
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
a1: So much in life depends not on performing a task but on communicating how/why. Justify a sales pitch, explain a lab procedure.
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A1 Otherwise we will end up with a slate of 2016 presidential candidates vying for all of the jobs in the marketplace
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Also want to give a big shout out to the
#EdCampHMW
! What a great day doing
#designthinking
#edcamp
-style
#edchatme
https://t.co/R37RCItTVE
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
My summer plans include moving to Maine the middle of June! It will be a busy summer.
#EdChatME
andrewtwallace
Apr 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Hey all - Andy tech director in SoPo. Distracted and likely to be neither a clear nor an effective communicator. But hi
#edchatme
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
beat me to a political punchline!
#edchatme
https://t.co/OPPJbBDIB0
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A1 Otherwise we will end up with a slate of 2016 presidential candidates vying for all of the jobs in the marketplace
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Hi
#EdChatME
! Erin, Eng T at Maranacook HS, love geeking out and most recently playing baseball with my kids! Can't wait for summer!
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1 CEC is >>> than just the words we choose - media & context fluency, too. Critical skills for life, not just edu & career!
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Geoff Cyr, I screw up 3D printing projects for a living
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1 We are seeing more & more the importance of being an effective listener; high touch jobs hard to cut
#edchatme
https://t.co/Af9gyIlGo1
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
#EdChatME
Q1
https://t.co/hVEDsDa0yw
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1. In every career, Ss need to be able to communicate clearly and effectively. Communication transcends ALL jobs!
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: Effective communicating is essential to perspective taking, empathy, and collaborative skills needed in the 21st century.
#EDChatME
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Ignore date on the
#EdChatME
infographics tonight- we are here on April 25, but I have a reason to share
https://t.co/GXHHSgmtNP
#Foreigner
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1) uisakah s djdiwiejf jdjsiaks jdjsiaks just jdjsiaks djdiwiejf jdjsiaks jobs hdjsiaksdh jdjsiaks
#edchatme
audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Joining
#edchatme
from Newburgh. Moving to Fayette this summer so I can hangout with
@WickedDecent
and
@eringobragh29
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@DrewetteCard
https://t.co/mJdzoXF3lR
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1: Nothing gets accomplished if we can’t communicate properly! It’s the key to mitigating discord and facilitating collaboration!
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
ICYM q1
#edchatme
https://t.co/t71J8Ku8S1
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
Listening is definitely an essential skill! Listen more, talk less
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
So cool to see other awesome
#EdCampHMW
coaches in the
#EdChatME
mix tonight - it was an awesome day of
#DEEPdt
ideation & prototyping!
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1: It's necessary for contributing to anything worthwhile! I don't want to live in a world where convoluted is acceptable.
#edchatme
lkaneteach
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@ehfowler7
I went to the Galapagos three months ago!!
#EdChatME
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
@jonpratt
so excited!
#edchatME
https://t.co/cdFaoMtgIf
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Glad you joined us tonight for
#edchatme
@ehfowler7
@lkaneteach
@audreyoclair
!
andrewtwallace
Apr 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: while it's important to know & do XYZ, it is essentially be be able to communicate &/or demonstrate that you know & can do XYZ
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Loving the emphasis on listening and empathy coming thru on answers to Q1 in
#EdChatME
tonight. Communication is a 2-way street!
lkaneteach
Apr 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A1: We need to communicate to students,other teachers, administrators, AND parents!
#EdChatME
#EDU300USM
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@lkaneteach
and that trip inspired some great work!
#edchatme
#edu300usm
@ehfowler7
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
.
@DrMerriRajaniem
We so often forget this; we often teach Ss public speaking, we rarely teach intentional listening
#edchatme
mracarmichael
Apr 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Joining in late. Ashton Carmichael Grade 8 ELA, I like to indoor garden. Summer plans will be job searching and apartment hunting.
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
#EdCampHMW
was definitely boss! Love an opportunity to hang out with other
#DEEPdt
nerds!
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Woah! This! "mitigating discord and facilitating collaboration" - awesome!
#EdChatME
https://t.co/DcVzHsHyN9
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1: Nothing gets accomplished if we can’t communicate properly! It’s the key to mitigating discord and facilitating collaboration!
#edchatme
lkaneteach
Apr 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
Stayed tuned for my Genius Hour!
#EdChatME
#EDU300USM
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A1) we are in the era of information. What commodity is more important for information than clear and effective communication?
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2: What does clear and effective communication "look like"? What observable student behaviors exemplify this quality?
#EdChatME
andrewtwallace
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Hey
#EdChatME
Here's a link to Maine's Guiding Principles:
https://t.co/xoADQrykJ3
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1. Impt to communicate in variety of ways (spoken, written, visual, performing) & through technology. LOVE the inclusion of arts
#EdChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Welcome,
@mracarmichael
- glad you could join
#EdChatME
tonight!
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@lkaneteach
I think a key to clear & effective communication is knowing how to address each stakeholder honestly & appropriately!
#edchatme
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@andrewtwallace
yes and also be able to communicate with the people who can do the XYZ that we can't
#edchatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Here's Q2 for
#EdChatME
https://t.co/ZlnBln3Y7V
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Looks like constant dialogue. Constant modeling. No "because" as answers, but conversations and voice -- for everyone.
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
In college, my thesis advisor told me that if he could ask "why" or "how" at any point, my explanation was incomplete. Brilliant.
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Communication should be collaborative. Speak, listen, absorb, synthesize, speak, listen, lather, rinse, repeat.
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
ICYM Q2
#edchatme
https://t.co/xA8mY4s3Bx
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@lkaneteach
I assure you
@MisterCMaine
and I have your back! We are allowing some time to decompress after a challenging module!
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Following along from "outside the 207" (aka, not Maine)? What's your verbiage for "Guiding Principles"?
#EdChatME
https://t.co/k2CU0SsyHB
andrewtwallace
Apr 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Hey
#EdChatME
Here's a link to Maine's Guiding Principles:
https://t.co/xoADQrykJ3
AmyHediger
Apr 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A1: It is essential to teach students to find and use their voice to convey meaning to their thoughts, opinions, etc
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2 Students w effective listening skills are able to either apply what they've heard OR articulate their struggle to do
#edchatme
audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2 It is a reflective and respectful process. Seek to understand not simply respond.
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2, 2: So much of comm. is listening. There's a crucial dif. bet. that and hearing. Pay attn. Make eye contact. Be able to retell.
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2 Reflecting a lot lately (in re: 1:1 iPads) that "CEC" looks like a picture sometimes. Or a movie. Not always speech / text.
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2) Starts with listening. Ends with listening. In between: writing, talking, showing, making, doing and... More listening.
#edchatme
Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2: The Ss not only advocating their needs & wants, but able to articulate this with words, actions, & learning.
#EDChatME
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2: sometimes, we need explicit "This is how you do this" teaching with Ss. "This is how you approach your [x] about [y]..."
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2: Empowered & appropriate self-advocacy: expressing needs and articulating possible solutions to peers, teachers, administrators
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2)Communication is based in dialogue, and we too often focus on monologue. By definition it's collaborative.
#edchatme
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2. Ss giving attention to audience, ability to communication effectively independent of teacher in various ways.
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@jonpratt
I think in our Ss world, it's increasingly less text-based. How do we make text relevant in a visual world?
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 I'm not sure it requires extemporaneous skills, but perhaps ability to i.d best means to deliver/receive info/ideas in context
#edchatme
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: sharing your voice w/out shouting. asking lots of questions, being responsive to others' ideas.
#edchatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:48 PM EDT
.
@eringobragh29
My middle school Health teacher was the first to teach us the diff between hearing & listening. So critical!
#EdChatME
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
So how do we reconcile that w constructivist learning? Is it merely a matter of balance or something more?
#edchatme
Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A2: Taking in the whole picture, willing to listen, discuss, collaborate, apply, make, implement, repeat.
#EDChatME
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
.
@GeoffCyr
Often the best images & movies are purposeful & planned - usually text foundation coming to life in image.
#EdChatME
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
@jonpratt
great question! focus on purpose?
#edchatME
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@jonpratt
Absolutely. Scripting/storyboarding a very intention part of the process. Hard to make 10 yo's understand that
#edchatme
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
.
@jonpratt
@eringobragh29
I learned the difference fr/ Wesley Snipes & Woody Harrelson in "White Men Can't Jump."
#youtubeit
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
depends. Sometimes we have advance notice and can work with Ss to develop a plan. Other times, it's responsive 1/2
#edchatme
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
@MichaelisMath
yes, balance! foundational learning required so that Ss can construct successfully
#edchatME
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@jonpratt
Probably even tougher for the adults to understand the need to take the time to plan out multimedia creations
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
2/2 "so this stunk..." and we discuss how we might change our strategy next time. ALWAYS S input/voice, experiences.
#edchatme
angelasearles94
Apr 25 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A1 If for no other reason but to sound like competent adults. To express our thoughts & ideas clearly
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q3: How do (or might) you assess & track development of "CEC" in your classroom or building? Any resources you can share?
#EdChatME
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: I assess regularly in math, asking Ss to show their work and EXPLAIN their work -- formally, on paper, & informally in class.
#EdChatME
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
#EdChatME
Q3
https://t.co/I3UtvtTiG3
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
@jonpratt
maybe have Ss narrate vision/rationale behind visual representations of learning?
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: I'm a huge fan of portfolios and reflection for this sort of thing. Communication AND its assessment should be organic!
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
@jonpratt
I know that contradicts Pratt’s comment yet I think a clear rationale of visual work is reasonable
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3 We're getting a digital portfolio going, crux of which has students reflecting on how work is evidence for proficiency in GP.
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3: Real weak spot for me, but in a tough position to make happen. Want to try incorporating CEC component to my tech teams nxt yr
#edchatme
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3. Goal setting with Ss, use T & S collaboratively created rubrics, track with formative assessment checklists
#EdChatME
DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3) Digital portfolios, Microcredentials, or a bit of both in my mind seems to be the most practical and transferable.
#edchatme
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@jonpratt
But, I Ss should know that if rationale isn't clear to them, it won't be to anyone else
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
@jonpratt
Agreed. Ss can hastily throw together a visual, but need explanation of intention.
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
.
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
Maybe I can clarify - the "endpoint" of CEC isn't always text/speech.
#EdChatME
Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3: Frequent dialogue with the students. Connecting from both a personal and academic perspective breaks the communication wall.
#EDChatME
audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3 by gathering evidence of growth in several formats. It's crucial that Ss can articulate thoughts digitally, out loud & on paper
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@ehfowler7
@MichaelisMath
I have seen students struggle w/o roadmaps & sleepwalk down the garden path; finding that balance: hard
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 8:57 PM EDT
.
@eringobragh29
I'm so frustrated with myself for not diving more into
@Seesaw
this year
#onlysomuchtimetodive
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
Implying there should or can be an endpoint?
#edchatme
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
@eringobragh29
@Seesaw
my teachers are loving this tool for documenting many Ss skills/abilities
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A3: A merging of presentation presence, collabo capability & individual advocacy…a solid rubric could help Ss develop weaker areas
#edchatme
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
@ehfowler7
@MichaelisMath
Love the image I had as I read your words.
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
If I jumped into every cool-looking piece of software I drooled over, I'd die of sleep deprivation.
#edchatme
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@audreyoclair
Especially in person. Can't emphasize enough how tech is reshaping person-to-person communication
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 8:59 PM EDT
.
@eringobragh29
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
Good point! How about just not always text/speech, increasingly multimedia.
#EdChatME
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@audreyoclair
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
What? There's always enough time for everything ever!
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@DrMerriRajaniem
@ehfowler7
@MichaelisMath
#everynowandagain
#wordsmithy
#edchatme
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@audreyoclair
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
Sure! But maybe not for a GP? I don't feel like they're ever "done."
#edchatme
MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@audreyoclair
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
I’m thinking about how, exactly, to measure non-verbal/written comm
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Q4: How might "CEC" be integrated across content areas? How might we best measure student growth towards graduation goal?
#EdChatME
ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@WickedDecent
@DrMerriRajaniem
@MichaelisMath
#poetic
#imagery
#truth
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
I dislike the idea of assessing comm as a thing. 1/2
#edchatme
jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Here's Q4 for
#EdChatME
https://t.co/xWrekvXldY
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@jonpratt
@eringobragh29
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
Yes, product matters. More than just speech w/PowerPoint
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A4: Integrate by asking Ss to EXPLAIN (that magic word!). Harder to measure, but start with "Can I ask more Qs?" as an indicator.
#edchatme
WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Cool happenings in rural Maine schools w regards to career pathways & goal setting
https://t.co/LmQfzz7RC8
#edchatme
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@audreyoclair
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
Create rubric to assess the understanding of concept
#EdChatME
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
Same. But a necessary evil to give Ss an idea of their growth?
#edchatme
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
1st, b/c it DOES imply there can be a "got this!" & (oops 2/3)
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
But for the GP grad std ….? Maybe your comment warrants a new thread?
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@MsRedmanEnglish
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
3/3 And 2nd, b/c it ought to be embedded authentically w/content.
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Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4: Keeping a perspective on their brain development, we must measure both the tip and the body of their growth as they evolve.
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4 Among all the GPs my $0.02 is that CEC the most naturally integrated across content bc Ts need Ss to express learning!
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
elaborated with 3/3 thread ... but always happy to chat more! :)
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4: Common language/rubrics for things like oral presentation is really helpful.
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WickedDecent
Apr 25 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4. This one SHOULD be easily integrated as Ss demonstrate ability to gather & employ audio-based info
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https://t.co/AlNoWIf2N9
jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Here's Q4 for
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https://t.co/xWrekvXldY
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: Common language/rubrics for things like oral presentation can be really helpful.
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ehfowler7
Apr 25 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: systems to support Ts in communicating w/each other about the Ss with whom they work, collaborating on feedback?
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Anyone have resources to share re: assessing Ss learning in Clear & Effective Communication? Projects, rubrics...?
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
I love teaching, but not always all the stuff from the "top."
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AmyHediger
Apr 25 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A3: Publishing Ss work in authentic ways - blogs, pamphlets, articles - increases Ss desire to revisit, revise to ensure clarity.
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audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A4 By starting young & Ss of all ability levels to show/say what they know. Start young so this is less of an explicit lesson.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:08 PM EDT
I think we are reaching the natural conclusion that GP assessment is not outside of content assessment. So then what & how?
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Curious to know if elementary & middle schools / Ts have developed rubrics for what proficiency in CEC looks like at those levels?
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@jonpratt
I have a rubric that I use for group discussion if you wanna see! Not necessarily directly addressing CEC GP, though.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
I don't see CEC content leveled, rather a human quality to nurture?
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A4. When Ss create, produce and share their learning in other content areas, check mastery of standards & progress to proficiency
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:10 PM EDT
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@MsRedmanEnglish
Our portfolio system is attempting to do that ... look at the communication independent of the content.
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q5: What challenges might you face in measuring and integrating CEC? How might those challenges be overcome?
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@MichaelisMath
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
I really like that language; it acknowledges that GPs are limitless
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
@ehfowler7
@GeoffCyr
maybe I misunderstood? I meant DoE initiatives.
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DrewetteCard
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Apr 25 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A4) communication means expressing ideas between people. This happens everywhere in school, regardless of age or exceptionality
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:11 PM EDT
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@eringobragh29
Definitely interested, in & of itself but also as possibly adaptable for GP purposes...?
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:12 PM EDT
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Q5
https://t.co/tKIi485gwU
eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@jonpratt
Work in progress!
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https://t.co/NPDIu5PnsQ
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:13 PM EDT
a5: How can we keep it both authentic and objective? This is delicate balance.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@MichaelisMath
explain the DOE bit versus other assessment of communication so we end on the same awesome page?
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Thank you,
@eringobragh29
- and that "work in progress" is what it's all about, right?!
#alwaysimproving
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DrewetteCard
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A5) The word "effective" can leave too much up for interpretation. Locally created definitions must be made to make this work
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@jonpratt
I don't think I have ever once completed a "final draft" of a rubric. Ever.
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audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 9:14 PM EDT
As evidenced by tonight's convo- words both spoken and written are tricky. Tough to pin down the ephemeral and emotion involved
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A5: “Clear and Effective Communication” can be rendered wildly subjective. Effective can “look different” between assessing Ts.
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Stepping back from the
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convo for a sec to note my appreciation for the rich, deep convo tonight. This is the real deal!
GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A5: I'm struggling with the "why" part, as in why assessing CEC is even necessary.
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A5: Lots of Ss w/anxiety who expect that CEC includes some level of public speaking.
#doesnthaveto
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Is natural consequence of being/not being a CEC enough? What does a rubric do to help Ss improve?
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:17 PM EDT
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@GeoffCyr
Aside from the trite "bc we have to" for graduation, also think assessment = providing Ss with feedback & guidance.
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AmyHediger
Apr 25 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A4: School-wide rubrics developed where Ss are held accountable for demonstrating observable behaviors from Q2 on report cards
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Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A5: Defining "clear" measures for CEC, each S is a diverse individual in search and needs of their own standards
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@DrewetteCard
Even beyond local. Situational. Context helps determine what effective communication is as well
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
Lots of Ss respond to clear performance indicators with motivation to succeed. If I provide a bar, they rise to it.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Sometimes, I feel effective & others find me pushy. The same delivery could come across as timid. It’s about knowing AUDIENCE!!!
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A5 Among the many challenges, also this (from CEC definition): "in English and at least one other language"...thoughts?
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
IMO a well designed rubric WITH teacher/peer feedback is a road map for Ss to help them on their journey to proficiency
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q6: How might we, as teachers, best model clear and effective communication to our students?
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@jonpratt
Feel like this would be a really cool opportunity to make
#ASL
more prevalent in schools.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@DrewetteCard
absolutely! What are you working with in your district to create, perhaps, layered definitions of “effectiveness”?
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audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A5 Isn't it also true that CEC could/should look different based on future life path? Not all audiences are the same!
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Here's Q6 for
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https://t.co/hMOtZxPr5V
MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A6: Model by doing. Engaging in conversations about WHAT you said and WHY you said it. Discuss what makes a quality explanation.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@audreyoclair
That’s why I think the key here is tailoring to audience, not some cookie-cutter mold of what comm should look like!
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@jonpratt
Yeah, that sticks out to me as well. Lack of K-5 foreign language in my context makes this a tough standard to meet
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A6: By demonstrating multiple ways of explaining something, asking probing qs, listening intently, and not being overly serious.
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AmyHediger
Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A5: Explicitly teaching and modeling for our Ss what it looks like and sounds like to clearly communicate at all grade levels
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lkaneteach
Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A6: Have figured out the talent of not having to raise our voices
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#EDU300USM
jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Also thinking about
@GeoffCyr
probing Q re: need for assessment...I hope it'll help us know it by seeing it, and then help Ss grow
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@jonpratt
Well yes, but how "standardized" does that have to be? How formal the assessment? Does it HAVE to be a rubric?
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A5. Model, Model, Model, & admit when you fail (lack clear concise communication)
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audreyoclair
Apr 25 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
Tailoring to audience and truly understanding the capacity and goals of the communicator being evaluated.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A6: Remain honest. Clarify as needed- again and again until it makes sense. Use multiple modalities to convey information.
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:23 PM EDT
This! And why I think it's so important & valuable for Ts to have a "digital footprint" as model for Ss.
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https://t.co/BObvVrRi7f
MichaelisMath
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A6: Model by doing. Engaging in conversations about WHAT you said and WHY you said it. Discuss what makes a quality explanation.
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
@jonpratt
I don't think anything really HAS to be anything in ed Rs give kids guidelines, but you can make them flexible
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jonpratt
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:24 PM EDT
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@eringobragh29
@GeoffCyr
Right, and rubrics are evolving things - as we know more about what we want, can use rubric to guide Ss.
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A6: Modeling is huge. Verbalize your thought process too. Why are you using a higher tone here. Non-verbal comm. too
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@jonpratt
@MichaelisMath
A WHAT and WHY conversation can model how to navigate misunderstandings to students, for sure!
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Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A6: Model, test, improve, and seek input, criticism, and modes of improvement. We can be CEC when our audience learns.
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@eringobragh29
@jonpratt
fine w/guidelines,but how many rubrics will we need to account for context/audience? Can 1 rule them all?
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#NEXTSTEPS
: What will you do this week (and beyond!) to actively promote "CEC" with students & colleagues?
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MsRedmanEnglish
- Moderator
Apr 25 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@jonpratt
@MichaelisMath
I’ve had plenty call-outs “But you SAID….” Clarification as opposed to deflection is a teachable moment
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@GeoffCyr
@jonpratt
I love rubrics until I'm told I have to use a particular one. It's NECESSARY to tailor to specific needs
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MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#EdChatME
#NextSteps
https://t.co/2Q3bKIhnqy
MichaelisMath
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Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#Nextsteps
-- keep talking about it! Keep requiring communication, and getting meta about it. Communicate about the communication.
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GeoffCyr
Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#NEXTSTEPS
plan to work on CEC as component of portfolio requirement for tech teams next year
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jonpratt
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Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Yes,
@GeoffCyr
, a very real challenge - but GP says "organized & purposeful" - not necc. fluent in 2nd lang, which helps.
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM EDT
When I observe, I script the lesson for the T. It's a great reflection tool for Ts and talking point during conference.
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eringobragh29
Apr 25 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@MsRedmanEnglish
@jonpratt
@MichaelisMath
Can give me a great opportunity to say, "Well, I was wrong before."
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Sean_Malone
Apr 25 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#NEXTSTEPS
work on analyzing how I am a CEC not only in the classroom but in faculty meetings, collaborations, and everyday.
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MsRedmanEnglish
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Apr 25 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#NEXTSTEPS
When student followers ask me what the heck I was talking about as I blew up feeds tonight…I’ll explain, seek feedback!
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