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MrsMurat Jan 28 @ 9:00 PM EST

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Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:01 PM EST

#isedchat hello folks - Lisa here, your mod tonight! Our topic is disruptive innovation in schools and the future of learning!

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:02 PM EST

#isedchat please introduce yourself and tell us your role. I'm a HoS/CLO @HFAPgh and was a Director of Innovation before @TheEllisSchool

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:03 PM EST

Hey, Lisa! Excited about this topic. #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:03 PM EST

Eric jumping into #isedchat. Assoc. Dean of Students. Long-time English T before that.

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:03 PM EST

Mark Crotty, head of St. John's Episcopal in Dallas. #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:03 PM EST

Hey Lisa! @Learn21Tech Joan, EdTech Director Florida #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:03 PM EST

Hello #isedchat - how is everyone doing? Mike from NJ here - upper school math, which goodness knows needs disrupting...

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:03 PM EST

#isedchat Rob from St. John's Dallas. Should be in the 70s here this weekend! 😎

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:04 PM EST

@crottymark hey Mark! Good evening. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:04 PM EST

@EricAfterSchool hello Eric! Nice to see you. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:04 PM EST

@drmcgettigan hey Joan! Thanks for joining! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:05 PM EST

@mthayer_nj How much snow last week? My folks got 2 feet outside of Trenton. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:06 PM EST

#isedchat Q1: What is "disruptive innovation?" This term was new to many of the @advischools #techadvis workshop participants last wk

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:06 PM EST

@skeeTX We got 2 feet also in central NJ. Good times. Saturday was impressive to say the least. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:07 PM EST

#isedchat A1: a disruptive innovation can make or break an industry - it's different than a "sustaining" innovation https://t.co/XDCeUCTITx

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:07 PM EST

A1: To be disruptive, it needs to challenge trad. business model or cost structure of the industry. (e.g. @altschool) #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:07 PM EST

A1 Think of it as new models that open up possibilities. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:08 PM EST

@EricAfterSchool @altschool yes - gray example, more on that later! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:08 PM EST

A1: changing schools from old mindsets to new while allowing more creativity for all #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:08 PM EST

@crottymark yes - that term possibilities is key to the disruption..#isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:09 PM EST

@mthayer_nj I went to Peddie but played many area public schools. All 3 brothers live up there still. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:09 PM EST

@Learn21Tech One of my favorite words! #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:09 PM EST

Disruptive Innovation=rethinking from ground up-thinking about what is needed before one knows it's needed #isedchat https://t.co/O6ZCgj3S0m

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:09 PM EST

@skeeTX mindset definitely has to be growth and risk oriented.. Try and fail, iterate etc #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:10 PM EST

#isedchat Q2: What are examples of disruptive innovations that changed an industry? For example - Blockbuster:Netflix

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:10 PM EST

I am curious to know how you can “innovate disruptively” when you don’t know what you’re aiming at. Seems a bit “ready fire aim”. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:11 PM EST

@drmcgettigan yes! Staying ahead of the curve is key.. We will talk about how to do that later! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:11 PM EST

#isedchat A2: UBER

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:11 PM EST

There seems to be a bit of a know it when see it angle, although didn't expect to see it. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:12 PM EST

@mthayer_nj great Q - we will talk about how to "predict" disruptive innovation #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:12 PM EST

A2: Amazon. iTunes. Grubhub. Android. Etc. etc. #isedchat

mrteachersir Jan 28 @ 9:12 PM EST

A2: khan academy #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:12 PM EST

A2 Napster. EBay. #isedchat

CompSciCurtis Jan 28 @ 9:12 PM EST

@mthayer_nj there is a great book about this entitled, "How Stella Saved the Farm" treat innovative initiatives as experiments #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:13 PM EST

#isedchat A2: kindle:borders

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:13 PM EST

@EricAfterSchool great examples #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:14 PM EST

#isedchat Is it worth discussing whether or not disruptive innovations are positive/overall goods? Looking at the examples, I’m not sure...

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:14 PM EST

@mrteachersir great example that's EDU focused - what else? #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:14 PM EST

@crottymark napster.. Taking me back to grad school. 1 song took an hour #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:14 PM EST

@mthayer_nj you raise a great point! #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:15 PM EST

Ex-good digital texts disrupt everything but must teach Ss new rdg skills-need to look ahead & anticipate #isedchat https://t.co/kwZr9SU8lg

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:10 PM EST

I am curious to know how you can “innovate disruptively” when you don’t know what you’re aiming at. Seems a bit “ready fire aim”. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:15 PM EST

Don't like the glee with which some folks delight in "disruptive innovation" or whatever. #isedchat that said big change on the way.

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:15 PM EST

#isedchat moving right along... Q3: Should education and #indyschools in particular be "disrupted?" Why or why not?

mrteachersir Jan 28 @ 9:15 PM EST

A2: smartphones/iphone. iTunes:record store. #isedchat

JoelRGarza Jan 28 @ 9:15 PM EST

#isedchat A2 outsourcing of labor. Changed completely the expected narrative arc of workers and workers-to-be

CompSciCurtis Jan 28 @ 9:16 PM EST

@Learn21Tech @mrteachersir Kahn academy and YouTube #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:16 PM EST

Tell us more Josie...Should education and #indyschools in particular be "disrupted?" Why or why not? #isedchat https://t.co/NZLgwedkOT

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:15 PM EST

Don't like the glee with which some folks delight in "disruptive innovation" or whatever. #isedchat that said big change on the way.

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:16 PM EST

A3 Don't think I'd say disrupted, but continually re-examined and adjusted accordingly. Have to be careful not to lost positives. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:16 PM EST

@JosieHolford Good point, but does the former allow the latter??? #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:16 PM EST

A3: Capitalism is merciless. There is no "should." We are ripe for disruption. Need to adapt to survive. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Yes. No. Perhaps. In some ways. Not at all. #isedchat

JoelRGarza Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

#isedchat A2 outsourcing of labor. Changed completely the expected narrative arc of workers and workers-to-be in variety of industries

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

@CompSciCurtis @mrteachersir @YouTube another example #flipclass anyone? #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

A2 adaptive learning, digital texts, formative assessments that quickly collect data, virtual field trips, GAFE #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

A3 Shaken up (quite a bit) is term I might use. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

@crottymark what do you see as some of the positives? #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

And power apps like @explainevrythng & @BookCreatorApp #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:18 PM EST

I like that - education should be "shaken up" @crottymark #isedchat https://t.co/DEIyiEMpXl

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:17 PM EST

A3 Shaken up (quite a bit) is term I might use. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:18 PM EST

#isedchat A3: yes, if antiquated practices are not serving the needs of the Ss. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:18 PM EST

#isedchat A3: yes, if antiquated practices are not serving the needs of the Ss. #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:18 PM EST

@drmcgettigan I’ll take your word for it. I’ve seen very few “good” digital texts. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:18 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Our independence (if we take advantage of it). The relationships. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:18 PM EST

#isedchat Q3b: why should we think about new models?

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:19 PM EST

A2 Michael Milken, MCI, & the demise of Ma Bell https://t.co/YEK9G1DZLV #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:19 PM EST

@skeeTX Latter (big change) is coming anyway. Need to hold fast to what might also be swept away that would be better preserved. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:19 PM EST

@crottymark yes and that's a big if! Many schools I visit (probably hitting 15 in 1.5 yr) aren't.. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:19 PM EST

@mthayer_nj @drmcgettigan Subtext/AR360 allows Ts and Ss to interact while reading in ways not available before. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

Q3b Becasue we can. And we may find better ways. Have to find better ways. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

@skeeTX The "reform" agenda needs to be resisted. What we need is a different kind of radical change. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

What is worth preserving about the current EDU model? #isedchat https://t.co/iJITLtc4wz

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:19 PM EST

@skeeTX Latter (big change) is coming anyway. Need to hold fast to what might also be swept away that would be better preserved. #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

Some of the best ones I've seen have been written by teachers-another disruptive innovation! @mthayer_nj #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

#isedchat A3b: world around us has changed and we have to better prepare Ss #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

#isedchat A3b: world around us has changed and we have to better prepare Ss #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

@JosieHolford examples??? #isedchat

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

A3 High school needs disrupted. K-7 is progressing nicely with accelerated innovation. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Yup! #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

Yes! #teacher powered learning is disruptive! #isedchat https://t.co/kDFEOeIZMa

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:20 PM EST

Some of the best ones I've seen have been written by teachers-another disruptive innovation! @mthayer_nj #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

It seems that “disruption” can easily slide into “follow the latest fad” in education. We need to be thoughtful. #isedchat

theatlis Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

A3b If we don't think about new models, we risk getting caught off-guard/left out. Can think about and discard,but need to think #isedchat.

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:22 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Relationships between and amongst all learners where that has value and significance and a degree of depth. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:22 PM EST

@skeeTX yes: 30 jobs for 2030 #isedchat https://t.co/LkJSONaV9u

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:23 PM EST

And, truthfully, unless an “innovation” includes a better way of caring for our students, it’s not much of one IMO. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:23 PM EST

@mthayer_nj Lots of silver bullet thinking. And this is nothing new. Happened before "disruption" was all the rage. #isedchat

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:23 PM EST

Well, that's not disruption. #lipstickOnAPig #isedchat https://t.co/3Awfv7RJne

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

It seems that “disruption” can easily slide into “follow the latest fad” in education. We need to be thoughtful. #isedchat

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:24 PM EST

@Learn21Tech @crottymark Independence is huge! The general public does not get independence. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:24 PM EST

#isedchat Q4: rapid firing off the Qs... What approaches to teaching and learning can disrupt education? Blue sky thinking is OK!

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:24 PM EST

#isedchat https://t.co/ZCzn6EBVen

agileschools Jan 28 @ 9:23 PM EST

@JosieHolford @Learn21Tech @skeeTX what is the difference between "reform" & "radical change"?

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:24 PM EST

@skeeTX Common Core.Standards.Testing. Need to be resisted. Radical change needed that puts learning in the hands of the learner. #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:24 PM EST

@mthayer_nj Sure, but maybe "caring" means offering a great education at a much lower price. #isedchat

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:25 PM EST

@JosieHolford @skeeTX Reform = Learning for corporate interest. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:25 PM EST

@ConsultJodi @Learn21Tech Not sure many in indy schools totally get it. #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:25 PM EST

@crottymark Yup. And the history of education is littered with “disruptions” that didn’t help kids. #isedchat

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:25 PM EST

“A School-OS 2 to Enabling the Expanded Learning Ecosystem” #isedchat https://t.co/Mad515Zgep

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:25 PM EST

Student voice, choice, multiple pathways, using the community and partners as resources.. #isedchat https://t.co/rJo5tGHbpb

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:24 PM EST

@skeeTX Common Core.Standards.Testing. Need to be resisted. Radical change needed that puts learning in the hands of the learner. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:25 PM EST

@agileschools @Learn21Tech @skeeTX The "reform" agenda is the move toward standardization and testing. It "deforms" education. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

#isedchat A4: more collaboration of Ts to allow more choices for Ss to meet their interests and abilities #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

#isedchat A4: more collaboration of Ts to allow more choices for Ss to meet their interests and abilities #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

@EricAfterSchool That’d be many public schools, no? #isedchat

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

A4 “Disrupting School at the Juncture of Teen Choice” #isedchat https://t.co/osKHxc9kc1

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

@crottymark @ConsultJodi I don't think they do.. Need to do visits, empathy walks with Ts less fortunate. Look at Detroit schools #isedchat

mrteachersir Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

A4: personalization #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:26 PM EST

@mthayer_nj Absolutely. We compete with them, too! #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:27 PM EST

#isedchat Teaching with disciplines, across grades, etc. (A4)

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:27 PM EST

@agileschools @Learn21Tech @skeeTX Radical change = return to a humane education and the developmental needs of kids. #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:27 PM EST

@lblanken *without disciplines #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:27 PM EST

A4 Getting away from teaching and learning on the clock/bell schedule would be HUGELY disruptive. #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:27 PM EST

Respectfully disagree-true disruptive innovation means a new model that's superior Netflix v Blockbuster #isedchat https://t.co/zNvM8eKZXi

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:21 PM EST

It seems that “disruption” can easily slide into “follow the latest fad” in education. We need to be thoughtful. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:27 PM EST

A4 Less purely "academic" learning; more relevant learning. Radically redesign curricula to that end. Have Ss involved in process. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:28 PM EST

#isedchat A4: flex start and end times, personalized/blended learning, micro credentials, place based learning..

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:28 PM EST

@drmcgettigan Yes; but we call many things “disruptive” in education that are just fads. Much of tech is in this camp. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:29 PM EST

@mthayer_nj yes!! Been doing lots of work with schools lately about "schedule" new models key #isedchat

Mamarobertson4 Jan 28 @ 9:29 PM EST

@Learn21Tech fascinating! Interesting to consider who is disrupted, to what purpose and how can we make sure a disruption is + #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:29 PM EST

#isedchat A4: convincing Ts that change can be positive albeit daunting. Can't always do what's been done! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:29 PM EST

#isedchat A4: convincing Ts that change can be positive albeit daunting. Can't always do what's been done! #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:29 PM EST

#isedchat what about entrepreneurship, student-run start-ups, externships, year-long school..

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:29 PM EST

@Learn21Tech @ConsultJodi To really take advantage of our indy status scares many people. #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

@crottymark @Learn21Tech @ConsultJodi I think we’re still really tied to the “college prep” idea and are driven by admissions #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

#isedchat check out these two models.. https://t.co/rWcLxLwlMS

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

@mthayer_nj @drmcgettigan If tech is not used properly. Can be an excellent tool if understood by all users (reluctant Ts) #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

A4 To truly disrupt education, you also need to change the relationships that exist between people in schools. Care matters. #isedchat

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

Defining the goals of WHAT Ss should learn and teaching them HOW to learn, so that they can effectively handle the unknown future #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

Ex: Accessibility is a disruptive innovation that is a game changer for many kids #isedchat https://t.co/5KsvHltSN9

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:28 PM EST

@drmcgettigan Yes; but we call many things “disruptive” in education that are just fads. Much of tech is in this camp. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@mthayer_nj While that is true (and valuable) it is not the kind of thing the purveyors of "disruption" in education usually mean. #isedchat

JoelRGarza Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

#isedchat A4 adjusting how we grade. Not averaging. Not grading certain assessments at all. Not grading certain courses at all.

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

#isedchat mixed grade levels, interdisciplinary, more collaboration, nee spaces..

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@skeeTX @drmcgettigan Valuable yes, but “disruptive”? I question what about education has genuinely changed due to tech. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@crottymark @Learn21Tech @ConsultJodi Including those teaching in Indy schools! #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

A4 Get rid of traditional departments. Organize by something else, such as really big questions and issues. #isedchat

CompSciCurtis Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@mthayer_nj @Learn21Tech what schools are doing this well? Exploring bringing down the scheduling barrier... #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@JoelRGarza How about no grades, not no assessment, but no grades. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

Most schools.. As a new type of Indy focus on career and college. Designing customized pathways #isedchat https://t.co/xCR9clII1O

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

@crottymark @Learn21Tech @ConsultJodi I think we’re still really tied to the “college prep” idea and are driven by admissions #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

@crottymark And those could change as needed. #isedchat

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

“That’s the way we’ve always done it” sends chills up my spine #isedchat Can’t maintain the norm and status quo in teaching and learning

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

Yes and with families, the community as well. #isedchat https://t.co/aAu42BkaJp

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:30 PM EST

A4 To truly disrupt education, you also need to change the relationships that exist between people in schools. Care matters. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

@mthayer_nj @drmcgettigan Ability to communicate, like what we are doing now. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

@Learn21Tech @mthayer_nj Time = coin of the realm. Lots of experimentation needed with schedules. Time to break out of the boxes. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:32 PM EST

@lblanken No doubt. Part of what creates the fear of doing it differently. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:33 PM EST

Yes! I've loved following @HPSSchool schedule and curricular planning @GeoMouldey #isedchat https://t.co/lV1DuLWq2L

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

A4 Get rid of traditional departments. Organize by something else, such as really big questions and issues. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:33 PM EST

@lblanken And as desired. #isedchat

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

“Disruption” starting to take the same tone that “tech integration” has had for the past 5-10 years - needs to be better defined #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

Rob is right- this chat is an excellent ex. Of disruptive innovation #isedchat @skeeTX https://t.co/2V66Syu6A4

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@skeeTX @drmcgettigan Valuable yes, but “disruptive”? I question what about education has genuinely changed due to tech. #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

@JoelRGarza @GreenhillSchool One can dream . . . #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

#isedchat Are colleges willing to disruptively innovate?

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

#isedchat Q5: how do we find/determine/see trends/seek needs as we face disruption in education? Who what when...

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

@skeeTX Have to change the tenure system first. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

Agreed @mthayer_nj And therein lies the problem with the GERM and orgs like DFER #isedchat All of our words can be co-opted and corrupted

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:35 PM EST

@skeeTX @drmcgettigan Granted. But you could take a S from 1962, put them in most schools, and they’d be largely comfortable. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:35 PM EST

@skeeTX We often point to colleges as a driving force, but I wonder how much we really know about this. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

@mthayer_nj @drmcgettigan Valid. Are done Ts still there from '62? #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

Luckily it seems some are.. Love what im seeing with college admissions report last week and in places NH #isedchat https://t.co/2tnXnKfz8z

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:34 PM EST

#isedchat Are colleges willing to disruptively innovate?

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

@crottymark @skeeTX I taught college for 20 years and my husband still does. I still follow those trying to disrupt college. #isedchat

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

Badges. We need badges. @OpenBadges Badges don't average, they accumulate. #isedchat https://t.co/GASoXzFce1

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST

@JoelRGarza How about no grades, not no assessment, but no grades. #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

A5: Indy schools need to hire bright, creative people, as we always have, and give them space to do their thing. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

Clear skies @mthayer_nj means more air pollution. Collateral damage = dead civilians. Ed reform = more testing and behaviorism #isedchat Etc

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

Dig books like Life on Earth by EO Wilson-preeminent biologist publishes free fab book & course #isedchat https://t.co/u2LiMRiHSi

agileschools Jan 28 @ 9:33 PM EST

@drmcgettigan @mthayer_nj how does it disrupt "everything"? Maybe just the textbook distribution channel....

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

@crottymark We are below them on the ladder. What if we get off that ladder??? #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Yep, I saw that report, too. I hope they implement those recommendations. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:37 PM EST

@lblanken @crottymark Are things changing? #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:37 PM EST

I like competencies, pathways, micro credentials.. #isedchat https://t.co/sSQ2nBKQdu

CreditFlex Jan 28 @ 9:36 PM EST
Badges. We need badges. @OpenBadges Badges don't average, they accumulate. #isedchat https://t.co/GASoXzFce1
- lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:31 PM EST
  
  @JoelRGarza How about no grades, not no assessment, but no grades. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:37 PM EST

@EricAfterSchool yes! Protect them, support them... #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:37 PM EST

@lblanken @skeeTX If I recall, he's @BrynMawrCollege, yes? My daughter goes there. Some def disruption happening there. #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:38 PM EST

It made me fall in love with science again #isedchat @agileschools @mthayer_nj

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:38 PM EST

@drmcgettigan That one, I definitely agree. Excellent example. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:38 PM EST

@mthayer_nj But when you dig to the underlying concepts - now there can be clarity. #isedchat Ask people: How do children learn? #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:38 PM EST

@mthayer_nj But when you dig to the underlying concepts - now there can be clarity. #isedchat Ask people: How do children learn? #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:38 PM EST

@skeeTX @crottymark In certain corners. SNHU is doing interesting things—mastery-based education. But a lot are still stuck. #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:38 PM EST

@crottymark @skeeTX @BrynMawrCollege Yes—they’re doing some interesting things, but small pockets. The 360 courses are very cool #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:39 PM EST

@Mamarobertson4 Many schools have dropped APs and saw no negative affect in college admissions; some reported better. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:39 PM EST

#isedchat how might technology continue to disrupt education? https://t.co/ZY1CGEUKeY

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:39 PM EST

@lblanken @skeeTX @crottymark I've loved watching what they are doing.. More will follow #isedchat

lblanken Jan 28 @ 9:39 PM EST

@crottymark @Mamarobertson4 We dropped APs, and have struggled a bit with admissions. Our transcript is harder to interpret. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:40 PM EST

@mthayer_nj Orwell nailed this. It's why we need to dig below the surface of the weasel words to the Why of the belief system #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:40 PM EST

@crottymark @Mamarobertson4 I'm a fan of college in high school programming, Ss taking #MOOCs vs APs #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:40 PM EST

@JosieHolford Yes. We need to have the space and time to have those group discussions where that digging can take place. #isedchat

theatlis Jan 28 @ 9:41 PM EST

@crottymark Depends on which colleges. "Top" 30 colleges maybe not. Otherwise, I think there's lots of interesting stuff going on. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:41 PM EST

#isedchat IndySchools might disrupt EDU by figuring out how to make our schools more accessible to ALL and for ALL

DerekKrein Jan 28 @ 9:41 PM EST

New Directions and Radical Circles MT: The Innovative Power of Criticism https://t.co/iKQ2YrTgGb @HarvardBiz #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:41 PM EST

@JosieHolford We can skate around the surface of those topics in SM convos like this, but the limitations are pretty severe. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:42 PM EST

People say they want democracy. But do they promote voting? They say they want all children educated. Do they? Why and for what? #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:42 PM EST

@Mamarobertson4 @crottymark oh yes I suggest Ts assists and is mentoring Ss - we have learning coaches in my school #isedchat

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:42 PM EST

@skeeTX @crottymark @Learn21Tech I have some opinions on Detroit! Indy schools are more about learning for the sake of learn. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:43 PM EST

@ConsultJodi @skeeTX @crottymark please share mode! #isedchat

drmcgettigan Jan 28 @ 9:43 PM EST

Have to say good night! Great chat all! TY #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:45 PM EST

@ConsultJodi @skeeTX @Learn21Tech We like to think so, at least. But many comments tonight suggest college acceptance comes first. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:45 PM EST

#isedchat Q6: who leads the charge to think about and plan for disruptive innovations in your school or who should? Resources?

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:45 PM EST

#isedchat I've been chatting w/ colleagues a/b disrupting our learning spaces. Ready to dig in! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:45 PM EST

#isedchat I've been chatting w/ colleagues a/b disrupting our learning spaces. Ready to dig in! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:46 PM EST

@crottymark @ConsultJodi @Learn21Tech And affording college! #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:46 PM EST

A6 I try to! #isedchat

martinmoran21 Jan 28 @ 9:46 PM EST

Just popping into #isedchat b/c I saw the college admissions point. We've been off APs for awhile now and our admits are better than ever.

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:46 PM EST

#isedchat A6: while it shouldn't be on 1 person... Having a catalyst helps. Conduct research, listen, design, build empathy, share..

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:46 PM EST

@JosieHolford For the sake of corporations. Our local government has a P-20+ plan. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:47 PM EST

#isedchat A6: those who see the need and are willing to try to find new paths

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:47 PM EST

@skeetx That sounds exciting - would love to hear more about it! #isedchat

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:47 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Love @cottageclass. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:47 PM EST

@crottymark evidence in that you are here tonight mark :) #isedchat

martinmoran21 Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

Schools just need to create the best college counseling dept they can. If they're great, it relieves a lot of pressure.#isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

Is your school @martinmoran21 a member of @IndyCurriculum ? #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

a6 Depending on issue, sometimes try to prompt others to fill the role. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

Awesome - hard to convince Ps? #isedchat https://t.co/gJkliWnw5U

martinmoran21 Jan 28 @ 9:46 PM EST

Just popping into #isedchat b/c I saw the college admissions point. We've been off APs for awhile now and our admits are better than ever.

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

#isedchat I don't have an issue rattling the cage and stirring things up. T's need to be honest and share! #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

#isedchat I don't have an issue rattling the cage and stirring things up. T's need to be honest and share! #isedchat

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

A6: school administration and thought leader Ts should share the lead in thinking and planning for disruptive innovation #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

@skeeTX I will vouch for you on this! #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

#IndySchools and all schools for that matter need to think much beyond college if we are thinking disrupt #isedchat https://t.co/lZbUBPaciv

martinmoran21 Jan 28 @ 9:48 PM EST

Schools just need to create the best college counseling dept they can. If they're great, it relieves a lot of pressure.#isedchat

martinmoran21 Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Not really-boldly declaring your progressive mission seems to do the trick. #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

@TyeJCampbell Repurposing old computer lab/media center. Can library space be better used by school. #isedchat

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

Coding academies, mentoring programs, etc. can be better than college. #isedchat

EricAfterSchool Jan 28 @ 9:50 PM EST

A6: We created an Adaptability Project for self-disruption. We're digesting the proposals now. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:50 PM EST

@martinmoran21 Worth looking into as an association of like-minded schools unafraid to break out of the AP strait jacket. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:50 PM EST

@Learn21Tech Amen! I know college is a reality, but sometimes i think it becomes convenient excuse. #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:50 PM EST

former innovation director..I would add that role to the mix. A key support to HoS and Ts, Ps and partners #ISEDchat https://t.co/Ucc3YRIKoa

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:49 PM EST

A6: school administration and thought leader Ts should share the lead in thinking and planning for disruptive innovation #isedchat

richard_royal Jan 28 @ 9:50 PM EST

#isedchat - a6 I like to think if the innovation were to be truly disruptive it would come from anywhere other than traditional power(s)

Mamarobertson4 Jan 28 @ 9:51 PM EST

#isedchat seems to me that innovation must be driven by necessity. The best disruptions add a great deal and are mission driven.

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:51 PM EST

#isedchat last Q7: what happens if #IndySchools don't disrupt.. And What about education in other types of schools?

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:51 PM EST

If it's true that the fourth industrial revolution is upon us - what does that mean for what schools should be thinking about? #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:52 PM EST

#isedchat Ts need to also see school as shared spaces, not be possessive of rooms. We are caretakers. #ISEDchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:52 PM EST

#isedchat Ts need to also see school as shared spaces, not be possessive of rooms. We are caretakers. #ISEDchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:52 PM EST

@JosieHolford “What should the word ‘school’ mean?” #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:52 PM EST

@EricAfterSchool love it!!! #isedchat

Mamarobertson4 Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

#isedchat great innovations come from all sectors. Schools opting out of standardized tests, genius hour, home school: hacking school etc

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

a7 Evolve or die. Not nec right away, but eventually. In short term, we do students disservice. #isedchat

richard_royal Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

#isedchat - a7; depends on the school, some traditional types will rely on brand name to succeed for years after staleness has set.

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

@mthayer_nj Where will kids learn and from whom? #isedchat And what is the role of the teacher?

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

@richard_royal yep..And it's starting to happen (Khan Lab School.. AltSchool...) #isedchat

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

@Learn21Tech I see public schools losing steam, one-room schools growing, and boarding schools becoming popular again. #isedchat

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:53 PM EST

A7: #indyschool that don’t disrupt will survive as long as their competition does the same - but if competition disrupts… :-( #isedchat

skeeTX Jan 28 @ 9:54 PM EST

#isedchat Thx all! Time to disrupt the 8 year old's bedtime routine!!!

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:54 PM EST

@JosieHolford blended, retrofitted, problem-solving! #isedchat https://t.co/AaDKE9gI9M

martinmoran21 Jan 28 @ 9:55 PM EST

@JosieHolford I'd go with "the skills to understand and transnavigate analog and digital spaces in the pursuit of social good." #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:55 PM EST

#isedchat thanks to all for joining tonight to talk about disruptive innovation in schools! It's been a great chat.

ConsultJodi Jan 28 @ 9:55 PM EST

I believe that #indyschools need to have neighborhor classrooms. #isedchat

Mamarobertson4 Jan 28 @ 9:55 PM EST

@ConsultJodi @Learn21Tech depends on where you live. Public schools in many areas are thriving and innovating. #isedchat

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:56 PM EST

@JosieHolford I start from “What should kids learn and why?” Teaching issues are secondary to that Q in my opinion. #isedchat

crottymark Jan 28 @ 9:56 PM EST

Good night #isedchat. Great convo. Now to go watch some folks really opposed to disruption...

TyeJCampbell Jan 28 @ 9:56 PM EST

#indyschools need to disrupt or else they will find themselves struggling with relevance, purpose and unmotivated Ts, Ss and Ps #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:57 PM EST

Be treated well to become good people who care with the skillsets and mindsets to make a difference #isedchat https://t.co/CKvjA9ceh7

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:54 PM EST

@JosieHolford blended, retrofitted, problem-solving! #isedchat https://t.co/AaDKE9gI9M

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:57 PM EST

@Mamarobertson4 @ConsultJodi we have some pretty awesome public schools and charters here. Why pay #indyschool when they are free? #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:58 PM EST

@mthayer_nj How about starting with: Who they should be? #isedchat

Learn21Tech Jan 28 @ 9:58 PM EST

@JosieHolford clearer pic: #isedchat https://t.co/6Bc3TxR3ZM

mthayer_nj Jan 28 @ 9:59 PM EST

@JosieHolford “How can we help kids gain the knowledge they need to be the people they want to be?” But that’s incomplete somehow. #isedchat

JosieHolford Jan 28 @ 9:59 PM EST

@Learn21Tech This deserves a good looking at! Thanks. #isedchat