#educoach Archive
The #educoach hashtag is used by instructional coaches around the world. We chat each Wednesday at 8pm CST on Twitter and use the hashtag throughout the week to share resources, ask questions and collaborate with instructional coaches.
Wednesday November 16, 2016
9:00 PM EST
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:00 PM EST
Good evening
#educoach
Let’s start by introducing ourselves and sharing a success story from the week!
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:00 PM EST
My tweets for the next hour are for my favorite chat of the week...
#educoach
:)
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM EST
Dan, business teacher from St. Louis. My
#eduwin
was being able to successfully give effective feedback to my student teacher.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi all! I'm Amy, Director of Prof Growth in San Diego.
#eduwin
this week = great site visits with AP's!
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM EST
My
#eduwin
was spending a day learning from
@stevebarkley
last week and visiting with
@aprilpfortsiowa
about twitter today.
#educoach
In reply to @stevebarkley, @aprilpfortsiowa
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM EST
Greetings All! Mandi from NV. Success: I've made it to Wednesday:)
#longweek
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM EST
Shira here; Director of
@portfolioK12
& commoderator of
#educoach
#edwin
our new
#pbl
school’s first exhibition of student learning!
In reply to @portfolioK12
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM EST
Hi, Dave, instructional coach from Pennsylvania. Crazy busy week with one to one coaching and modeling lessons. That's my success
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:02 PM EST
That's been one of my successes too!
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
READDehler
Nov 16 @ 9:02 PM EST
Maureen, Lit Specialist
#educwin
- wrapping up coaching cycles and having teachers waiting in the wings!
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
I'm Kathy, co-moderator of
#educoach
. I'm a consultant in Iowa and a private virtual coach for coaches!
https://t.co/p88GjRqYJh
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
Jessica, another co-mod of
#educoach
and Elem Principal. My
#eduwin
is learning at
#PLTW
conference to prepare for K-5 implementation!
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
Angi from Alexandria, VA
#edwin
was helping tchrs use data to make tching decisions
#educoach
DonnaWells50
Nov 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
Donna from NC. Spent time with awesome educators at
#ncdlcn
this week. Completed the
#MannequinChallenge
#educoach
https://t.co/9Q2aHWMOhA
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
This is Jim KNIGHT and my biggest win was the TLC conference. Loved that I got to learn from so many other educators.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:03 PM EST
Glad to see BOTH of you at
#educoach
!
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth, @mvd1015
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jo from Melbourne joining -haven't in a while
#educoach
#eduwin
- having coffee &
#coaching
catch up with
@CmunroOz
got me back on track!
In reply to @CmunroOz
AndreaSchueler
Nov 16 @ 9:04 PM EST
Andrea from MN.
#eduwin
working with HS LA teacher on conferencing and SBG
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:04 PM EST
Ahh, glad you are here at
#educoach
We all know about those long weeks
In reply to @mvd1015
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:04 PM EST
I'm so glad my schedule finally worked in my favor!
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret, @mvd1015
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:04 PM EST
#TLC2016
was FABULOUS! Thanks for all the learning!
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
this is my energy!
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
I love that you're able to join with coffee and it's almost bedtime here!
#educoach
In reply to @JoPrestia, @CmunroOz
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
Honored:) My energy too - I am tired yet so excited to be making it to
#educoach
this week!
In reply to @mvd1015
techamys
Nov 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
It was an awesome conference!!
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret, @jimknight99
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:05 PM EST
Coffee with
@CmunroOz
sounds perfect. Some day I AM going to get to Australia to meet you both.
#educoach
In reply to @JoPrestia, @CmunroOz
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
If you are new to
#educoach
we use a Q1 A1 format.Check out
https://t.co/1nye6idEyT
to participate in chat and obtain transcripts.
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
Kylene from AR. Glad to see
@jimknight99
joining tonight!
#educoach
@JennEngelken
@keenacrenshaw
In reply to @jimknight99, @JennEngelken, @keenacrenshaw
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
Let’s get started. Tonight’s topic is Moving from Surface to Deep Coaching.
#educoach
JennEngelken
Nov 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
Jennifer, Technology Instructional Facilitator. My eduwin was getting a plan of action together with the lit. coach.
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:06 PM EST
mid-afternoon here and our meet was yesterday so have today to plan my next move with
#mlmccoaching
#educoach
In reply to @PrincipalJ, @CmunroOz
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1 How would you define surface level coaching?
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
would be great to meet you in person
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret, @CmunroOz
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: when you evaluate, give a score and move on. No real effective feedback or conversation had.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
LOVE that you guys can make it to
#educoach
- time differences and all
In reply to @JoPrestia, @PrincipalJ, @CmunroOz
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
It will happen. We must believe!
#educoach
In reply to @JoPrestia, @CmunroOz
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Surface level coaching may be a demo lesson w/out a cycle for follow up, 1-time coaching, not focused on long-term goal
#educoach
READDehler
Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 praise, encouragement, modeling, providing resources
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 a checklist -no ❤️
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
I don't even consider this coaching at all. Evaluation by itself is just that- evaluation - not coaching.
#educoach
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:07 PM EST
A1: when you evaluate, give a score and move on. No real effective feedback or conversation had.
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: Whole group PD sessions or mass non-customized coaching that is designed to set up the deeper, more meaningful interactions.
#educoach
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 One sided, no reflection/growth from teacher
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
Checklists by themselves make me crazy!!
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 a checklist -no ❤️
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: just suggestions, but no dialogue to build on teacher's strengths to allow for teacher developed goal.
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1:Surface level coaching is shifting actions and not necessarily the thinking behind the actions
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 Surface level coaching could be a brief cycle, but one that doesn't transform teaching & learning.
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: When you just do it for the teacher without helping them grow. When you show data w/o helping digest it.
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
I LOATHE checklists!!!
#walkthroughpetpeave
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
AndreaSchueler
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 surface = isolated, one-time interactions without much room for reflection
#educoach
DonnaWells50
Nov 16 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 Giving lots of info but never asking questions or really listening.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:10 PM EST
Ditto, unless they are used for system-wide data collection, not coaching or feedback!
#educoach
In reply to @PrincipalJ
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 Surface coaching could also be the much needed relationship building stage, providing resources, etc... that move to deeper C.
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:10 PM EST
For me the biggest issue with surface level of coaching is that a goal has not been set or met.
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
Sorry, late...April Pforts, Iowa Department of Education State Mathematics Consultant
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
Goal setting focuses the coaching & the reflection by the teacher!
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:10 PM EST
For me the biggest issue with surface level of coaching is that a goal has not been set or met.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
Interesting; I don’t see relationship building as surface; rather a step toward deeper coaching
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:11 PM EST
Glad you could make it tonight Amy
#educoach
In reply to @aprilpfortsiowa
miamiEDguru
Nov 16 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Scripted question or scripted process.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:12 PM EST
Appreciating answers on surface level coaching; thinking much of this happens, esp when coaches have MANY teachers to support
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
I was thinking that too, though if you stop at just getting to know w/out connecting to the work...
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz, @KathyPerret
miamiEDguru
Nov 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
Shelley Roy Pedagogical Coach
@gulliverschools
#educoach
In reply to @GulliverSchools
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 Surface Cing looks more like a friendly chat than a down and dirty analysis. Mostly superficial, lacks challenge.
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
Relationships do go deeper. Surface could be helping a T w/something(bulletin board, etc...) 2 start relationship.
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
Q2 What are reasons coaches engage in surface level coaching?
#educoach
DonnaWells50
Nov 16 @ 9:13 PM EST
Agree! Not intentional but definitely happens.
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
Yes; makes sense. Same action could be surface or step toward deeper coaching
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth, @KathyPerret
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: To build relationships, working to find a way "in" to get to coaching for those not "sold" on it yet
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: Time, lack of trust, lack of self efficacy that they (coach) can impact T, lack of goals, resistance from T
#educoach
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2 Build trust, est relationship
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
Hi everyone, just arriving. Michele from NC. Eduwin is finishing up school-wide benchmark testing!
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
Hello
#educoach
Allison from SC joining a little late. Ill be in & out a bit, but glad to get in a little chat!
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
So glad you could join
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: To recruit partnerships and find ways to demonstrate the power of coaching without pressure
#educoach
DonnaWells50
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2
@AmyLIllingworth
Yes- all of these!
#educoach
.
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
Yes, w/ out site support & trust, coaching can't jump to deep right away!
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: To build relationships, working to find a way "in" to get to coaching for those not "sold" on it yet
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
Glad you could join us! We have to connect soon. :) Hope you are feeling better.
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
It is necessary in the building-relationship and trust phase. Sometimes it is easier when with a resistant teacher.
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
SPPS_Richardson
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
FYI
#educoach
#mnlead
#ascd
#spps
SPPS_TDE
Nov 10 @ 11:20 AM EST
Hosting
#SPPSliteracy
chat about Educator Mentorship. Join us 11/17/16 from 7-8pm CST! Check the questions at
https://t.co/hfPGI3f6VX
.
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: Doing meaningless tasks for teacher but it is important for them to see you would do what they do.
#educoach
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: Surface level is about a 'mile wide' but no depth.
#educoach
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2: Time, trust, availability, relationships that are or aren't built.
#educoach
READDehler
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 - Kathy said - relationship/rapport building, teacher need, or might not have skills for deeper work and are gaining confidence
#educoach
RobinDubiel
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 It's like dipping your toes in water before you jump in. Get a feel for things, know what you're "getting into".
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
AndreaSchueler
Nov 16 @ 9:15 PM EST
True! With 100 Ts I have many surface interactions. I can only go deep with a few at a time. That's my constant struggle.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:12 PM EST
Appreciating answers on surface level coaching; thinking much of this happens, esp when coaches have MANY teachers to support
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 Important for Ts to see that you are not above them. Helps to build relationships for deeper discussions.
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
Surface coaching makes u question your effectiveness. It's what makes folks think coaching is a pie job.
#educoach
00blahblah00
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
Good evening. It's nice to be on
#educoach
on time. Sort of. 😬🍎💼
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: It's safer. Maybe relationships and levels are trust are not strong yet.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
Yes; so much depends on context& commitment to next steps
#educoach
In reply to @miamiEDguru, @KathyPerret
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
That's so hard for you & the Ts! Limited impact that way too.
#educoach
In reply to @AndreaSchueler
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
Yes. Not saying it shouldn't be done. Planting seeds! Coachable moments are everywhere.
#educoach
In reply to @miamiEDguru, @shiraleibowitz
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2 maybe just laying the ground work for later -getting to know you type thing?
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1. Think basic problem solving.
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1 If Ts are stressed with tasks then help them and they have more energy to talk about instruction and see you as an equal
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
Q3 What successes have you encountered because of surface level coaching?
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
That's a good perspective, and it helps to build trust!
#educoach
In reply to @aprilpfortsiowa
RobinDubiel
Nov 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2 Coaching is always deep, in it's own way. You never know what depths you'll help someone reach.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
A3 A successful start led to T's request for deeper coaching; 1 T shared the value of coaching w/ peers who then requested support
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2. I agree with Amy about time. I also think sometimes coaches just don't know what to do to go to deep coaching
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2. Time. No relationship with the T yet.
#educoach
READDehler
Nov 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
A3 It opened the door for coaching cycles. Communicating openly on easy things lead to talking about tougher things
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:18 PM EST
Very true. This is why an effective coaching model provides support & coaching FOR coaches!
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3 Tchrs see me as an ally, asking ?, inviting me into their rooms, wanting feedback
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
Q3 majority of the time small interactions turn into something magnificent. Other's see it happening and want it to, enrollment.
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
I'm hoping that will happen with
#mlmccoaching
next recruitment round
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
RobinDubiel
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
#educoach
artofcoaching1
Nov 16 @ 9:17 PM EST
Coaches! Let's learn together. Join one of my upcoming workshops - register soon - they fill fast. More on
https://t.co/quTj0bOOqd
miamiEDguru
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Time to listen for an opening.
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2 Afraid to been seen as challenging Ts or Cs might not have skill set yet for deeper C.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
Best of luck! When the work goes well, word spreads!
#educoach
In reply to @JoPrestia
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:19 PM EST
A3: Lasting one to one coaching relationships. This is where a lot of my 1:1's get started
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
thanks!
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3. Able to build relationships and actually helped me to navigate the direction & purpose in my school
#educoach
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3: It opened the door with communication. It then allows for deeper conversation starters and future conversations.
#educoach
JennEngelken
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: surface level can be helpful if you sense defensiveness. Do surface level til they trust you to dig deep.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 I've been able to plant many seeds during various surface level coaching opportunities.
#educoach
Small Wins as
@annghoffman
says!
In reply to @annghoffman
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A3 Coaching light can help build trust. Don't throw to much at them at first and work on your relationship.
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q3 Once I have T's trust, I can help them stretch. Setting goals is needed for focus and follow-up leading to deeper coaching.
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 If they are general coaches supporting a content area might not know what else to do.
#educoach
miamiEDguru
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3: Time to listen for an opening.
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q4 How would you define deep coaching?
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3.Leaving a bit of feedback or a quick reflection question now can lead to more effective conversations later.
#educoach
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Surface level can build relationships, but I also think we struggle with getting conversations to deeper levels, better goals.
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3 Seen as a team player, builds trust, not above Ts but beside them
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
good pt. & way to think about this
#educoach
In reply to @RobinDubiel
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A4: Effective feedback and open communication had between admin and teachers.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A3 Wondering if small steps really make sense to define as surface; they are steps to deeper coaching. Small steps matter
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:21 PM EST
A4 Deep coaching takes time, goal-setting & reflection w/in a trusting relationship
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
A4. For me, deep coaching is setting and meeting powerful student-focussed goals
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
A4: goal setting, data driving, meaningful feedback and conversations, lots of reflection, lots of time devoted.
#educoach
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
A4 Reflective, goal driven, goal driven, risk taking, meaningful feedback, change
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
I love the focus on students- so important to keep in mind at all times!
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:22 PM EST
A4. For me, deep coaching is setting and meeting powerful student-focussed goals
#educoach
READDehler
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A4 Deep coaching can lead to shifts in practice and beliefs
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A4: shifting the thinking, engaging in a full coaching cycle and being able to see the impact
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
That is certainly the goal!
#educoach
In reply to @READDehler
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A4 Deep coaching can be longer, transformational cycles based on student goals & dev't Ts capacity to meet S needs.
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
i tend to worry about the comfort level and getting a response terminates the connection.
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
Q3 Helping T's reach short-term goals = surface coaching? Together create engaging, tech infused unit. Longterm change absent.
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A4 Deep coaching is really listening, setting goals and discussing what is needed to achieve them
#educoach
miamiEDguru
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A4: Coaching that leads to significant change in Ss' learning experiences.
#educoach
DonnaWells50
Nov 16 @ 9:23 PM EST
A4
#educoach
Asking questions, listening, setting goals, encourage and support as needed, revisit goals, celebrate!
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4: Deep coaching stretches teachers&coach; to improve practice and grow as a professional
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4: I define it as the magical moment when an effective instructional practice becomes embedded due to our collaborative efforts
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
Is that deep coaching or a result of it?
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
Love the "magical moment!"
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4: I define it as the magical moment when an effective instructional practice becomes embedded due to our collaborative efforts
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:24 PM EST
A4 I agree with Jim and Kathy. Longterm, student-focused goals lead to deeper coaching. I have a new focus for my coaching.
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
A4. Deep coaching = Lots of time, teacher desire, goal-based, leading reflection/feedback that gets Ts where they WANT to go!
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
I love seeing so many references to reflection. It's such an important step we often skip, due to time, that leads to depth.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q5 What are reasons to move to deep level coaching?
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freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
I thought that as I typed. I believe the results are the definition. Otherwise it is only a process
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4 Deep coaching is about improving instruction to meet the needs of the Ss.
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4 A question. Can we call it deep coaching if nothing changes for students?
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A5 Moving to deeper coaching supports a T owning & personalizing a new strategy on behalf of student success
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
I like your perspective!
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom
theceebru
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4: Time and commitment on the coach for follow through. Planned and intentional conversations
#educoach
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: Building relationships can never be undervalued, is much of surface level coaching. It can lead 2 purposeful, crucial convers.
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A5 That's how when you really have a positive impact on students!
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
Great question
@jimknight99
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:26 PM EST
A4 A question. Can we call it deep coaching if nothing changes for students?
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
Reflection makes such a different (for T and C!)
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A5: deepens the relationship you have. Opens the door for effective communication, feedback, and future support to be had.
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A4. Certainly reflective. results in a change in practice and positive student results.
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
I love this...sometimes we see people forgetting what our real goal is=student achievement.
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A5 To increase Ss success to prepare them for the world and have the skills to succeed
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
A5 Ultimately, we want teachers to continue without us. Deep coaching leads to this. Longterm Surf Cing lacks large scale change.
#educoach
EduGladiators
Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM EST
💥Exciting
#EduGladiators
week! Join the chat Sat & Podcast LIVE Mon!
https://t.co/cZjzDzdUba
#bilingualchat
#educoach
#dtk12chat
#welsed
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5 Growth for tchr and students-long lasting and life changing
#educoach
theceebru
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5: Deep coaching allows for celebration of small victories, even if the struggle is real
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5 Otherwise we are doing it for the Ts and we all should be a team doing it for the Ss
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
this is my struggle. Getting through the cycle.
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
miamiEDguru
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5: When significant change is necessary for effective learning and anytime the teacher is requesting it.
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5: to impact instruction and student success
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:28 PM EST
A5. Deep coaching is where you'll truly see change in instruction and student learning. Hard for folks to "see" that reason, tho.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
Each person at the school should be focused on making a difference for students. That includes coaches.
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015, @jimknight99
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
A5 Time is limited resource so we have to be efficient and effective to decrease gaps for Ss learning
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
@askmrsmartinez
If you are on Twitter right now, you should jump into the
#educoach
chat!
In reply to @askmrsmartinez
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
A4: Shift in practice, sustainable change, students learning and loving learning
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
This article is best try at describing one kind of deep coaching:
https://t.co/LN9KykdWFF
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
A5: Deep coaching helps us recognize blind spots; even shift paradigms; leads to transformative moments
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:29 PM EST
Well then, that is where virtual coaching can help! Sounds like the formation of a GOAL. :)
#educoach
We'll talk soon.
In reply to @realAllisonW
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q6 What successes have you encountered because of deep level coaching?
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4: I don't think so. Possible to have real change without affecting students? Can small change = deeper c'ing?
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:30 PM EST
A5 Deep Coaching is about finding the time to make the shifts we said we could not do as Ts without ICs
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:30 PM EST
A5. "U don't build a top school. U build top teachers and they build the top school." Saw this quote online somewhere.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
A6 As a result of deep coaching, I've seen Ts implementing strategies that support improved student learning!
#educoach
InsightADVANCE
Nov 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
4 Reasons Why Coaches and School Leaders Need Video to Calibrate Instruction
https://t.co/RPf2mPZt6N
#educoach
#edtech
#cpchat
JennEngelken
Nov 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5: The reason for deep coaching is to create mind shifts in Ts that benefit students.
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
A5. Think that this is the level where transformation of practice can really happen.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:31 PM EST
As a coach of coaches, I've also seen coaches implement more effective strategies w/ their Ts!
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
A5 Started a Statewide Virtual Coaching Network for Mathematics in Iowa. I coach the coaches so they have the tools to Deep Coach
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
A6 Successes don't always come over night in deep coaching, but love when Ts and Ss realize their transformation! POWERFUL!
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
They definitely do not come over night!!
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:32 PM EST
A6 Successes don't always come over night in deep coaching, but love when Ts and Ss realize their transformation! POWERFUL!
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
Q6 Deeper C'ing brings assessment analysis, change in teaching methods, focus on student, voice & choice, increased engagement
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
A6 Created other coaches that now help more Ss. We need to remember to coach each other
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
However it's important to celebrate all the small successes throughout that transformation;)
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
What are the indicators of impact of the IC? Think if change in practice leads to positive student outcomes.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
Yes! Coaches need coaching too!
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
A6 Created other coaches that now help more Ss. We need to remember to coach each other
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
Exactly! Small wins add up!
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:33 PM EST
A6 Biggest success was a failed lesson modeling session/ reflection w/tchr and a redo-my own vulnerability
#educoach
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6: more effective communication and relationship building. Effective use of PLC time in the future which meant better lessons.
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6: Builds Ts confidence and they go off on their own and impact Ss in new ways due to their own discoveries!
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6 Remember to Coach up Principals. They need "coached up" too so they can be instructional leaders but keep the trust of your Ts.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
It's so powerful when you can model that authentically! No one is perfect.
#educoach
In reply to @greenangiz
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6, even though I'm often coaching, I still thrive on being coached myself
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6: My favorite moments are when a teacher shines in reaching their kids in a new way. We fade away and allow them to bask.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6: Deep coaching has helped me push beyond my own conceptions of what is possible; leading to major transformations for students
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
Coaches need coaches is the heart of my Virtual Coaching for Coaches!
https://t.co/p88GjRqYJh
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6 One success may be that deep coaching can move schools away from cultures of talk to cultures of action
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
That sounds like The Art of Coaching Teams by
@artofcoaching1
#educoach
In reply to @artofcoaching1
WinkelerD
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6: more effective communication and relationship building. Effective use of PLC time in the future which meant better lessons.
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
Love this!
@shiraleibowitz
@KathyPerret
and I have a book coming out on this topic.
#TheCoachApproach
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz, @KathyPerret
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6 Remember to Coach up Principals. They need "coached up" too so they can be instructional leaders but keep the trust of your Ts.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:35 PM EST
Yes you do!
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:35 PM EST
love this. I find huge value in admitting to our own flaws and how we learn from them
#educoach
In reply to @greenangiz
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:35 PM EST
Yes!!!! I keep striving to be better at being coached; taking in feedback; shifting practice
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:35 PM EST
A5: Kids deserve the best teachers!
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:35 PM EST
A6 I had great coaching today from
@KathyPerret
It will impact so many in Iowa Remember we need coaching too
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
Love seeing the hashtag
#TheCoachApproach
! Fun to have a title for the book!
#educoach
Hurry up May!
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
Love this!
@shiraleibowitz
@KathyPerret
and I have a book coming out on this topic.
#TheCoachApproach
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz, @KathyPerret
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:34 PM EST
A6 Remember to Coach up Principals. They need "coached up" too so they can be instructional leaders but keep the trust of your Ts.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
Estimated release is in May
#educoach
In reply to @MicheleCCochran, @PrincipalJ, @KathyPerret
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
Tentatively scheduled for publication by
@ascd
in May.
#educoach
In reply to @MicheleCCochran, @PrincipalJ, @shiraleibowitz, @ASCD
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:36 PM EST
can't wait to read it!!!
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:37 PM EST
Q7 What challenges may arise when moving to deep level coaching?
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:37 PM EST
Can't wait to read it!
@PrincipalJ
@shiraleibowitz
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret, @PrincipalJ, @shiraleibowitz
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:37 PM EST
A7 Trust becomes critical as you move into deeper coaching; so does content/ pedagogical knowledge & goal setting
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:37 PM EST
A7: time, consistency, life...
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
Lol- very true list!
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
A7 Ts that have been doing things for years realize they can do better. It crushes them. They have big hearts.
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
A7: emotions...when we hit true reflection it can be hard
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
Q7 Deep Coaching can be overwhelming if moving too quickly. Coach can lose teacher. Timing & support are imperative.
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
Thanks Amy!!!
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth, @KathyPerret, @PrincipalJ
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:38 PM EST
A7: If the relationship and questioning isn't there, going deeper could cause teacher to go on defensive
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7: There can be many, one is my own limitations. I like to focus on this one because it is one of the few I can control.
#educoach
drewprice11
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7: deep coaches requires a commitment of time/effort of all parties involved. System support is crucial.
#educoach
00blahblah00
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
Basically Teaching. But enriching that experience for others. RT ⌚️ 🎯 💭
#EduCoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7. Time. Why do our responses often mention lack of time? ;)
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7 Deep coaching can be an emotional ride for both the T and C.
#educoach
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7 Trust, fear, time, committment- reminds me of my dating life in my 20's
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7: It’s not easy to embrace deep coaching; it requires us to own the gap between where we are&where we want to be
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
A7 Honest, open communication can support deeper coaching
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:39 PM EST
Jessica, I have seen this in my own coaching. I had to grow by learning to read my teachers better and be cautious.
#educoach
In reply to @PrincipalJ
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
How do we connect what we do as ICs to the students? What data can answer this?
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret, @jimknight99
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
A7: 1. May get more resistance from Ts. Ts AND Cs are more vulnerable when coaching deep. I make more mistakes when...
#educoach
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
A7. Deep coaching can sometimes lead to discomfort, which may lead to resistance.
#educoach
JennEngelken
Nov 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
A7: Sometimes Ts aren't really ready to accept the kind of "looking in the mirror" reflecting it takes to grow
#educoach
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
A6: Ts are able to sustain the change, regardless of student group, content, or grade level.
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:40 PM EST
A7: 2 coaching deep so a trusting relationship is of the utmost importance!
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
Yes, I've made some mistakes too! I have to slow myself down and take baby steps...no steam rolling!
#educoach
In reply to @CultivateLearn
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
A7. Biggest issue may be that after you set a goal it can get tough for a while & the teacher can lose hope
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
Goals for coaching cycle can be focused on student needs.
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW, @jimknight99
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
Slowing down is something I am always working on!
#educoach
In reply to @PrincipalJ, @CultivateLearn
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:42 PM EST
I think deep coaching always involves discomfort, yet of a sort, like exercise, that energizes when we embrace it
#educoach
In reply to @MicheleCCochran
00blahblah00
Nov 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
A School in San Jose wouldn't allow that. The Coach told me what to do. Including whether I could use a bathRM.
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
I think most meaningful change results after initial discomfort.
#educoach
In reply to @shiraleibowitz, @MicheleCCochran
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
Agree - Coaches are passionate about teaching and learning. That passion can cause things to move faster than T & S can take.
#educoach
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:41 PM EST
Yes, I've made some mistakes too! I have to slow myself down and take baby steps...no steam rolling!
#educoach
In reply to @CultivateLearn
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
Q8 What supports do coaches need in order to move into deep levels of coaching?
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:43 PM EST
LOL. On it!!!!
#educoach
In reply to @MicheleCCochran
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
Agreed! Discomfort is necessary I think in the process of changing.
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom, @MicheleCCochran
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8 Coaches need admin support, open blocks of time, will & skill! They also need their own coaching support & time to reflect
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
Uggh
#educoach
In reply to @00blahblah00
drewprice11
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8: Coaches need coaches =) We are fortunate at
#okcps
to have a model that provides every IC with an IC2
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8 Easy question - Admin support, PD, PD, PD, time to learn how to be a coach. Learn and implement
@jimknight99
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8: Would it be a cop out to say administrative and systemic support?
#educoach
lsmith0917
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A7: There's an increase in vulnerability. Deep coaching takes trusting relationships.
#educoach
00blahblah00
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
🚨Brutality began soon thereafter. The wrongful hospitalization teaching subservience.
#EduCoach
Instead of my norm🙃.🎨📝🎻
In reply to @shiraleibowitz
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8: time, consistency, admin support, knowledge of the coaching process
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
Sounds awful
#educoach
In reply to @00blahblah00
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A8 A coach for the coach, admin support
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
So true. Administrator support is critical - and making sure the same message about coaching is heard throughout school often.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8 Coaches need admin support, open blocks of time, will & skill! They also need their own coaching support & time to reflect
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
Q8 Coach support can come from team simulations/role playing. I grew greatly from peer review and advice. Reflection is also key.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
I think those are important to recognize.
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom
AndreaSchueler
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A8 A coach! Or a group of critical coaching friends to help when it is tough. Structures in place to support the work
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
but as a teacher, i had data that was informing my instruction. As an IC, I dont
#educoach
In reply to @aprilpfortsiowa, @KathyPerret, @jimknight99
JennEngelken
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A8: Admin that understands that deep change takes time
#educoach
drewprice11
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
No way! effective coaching can't happen school wide without admin support
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
A7
@jimknight99
It works!!!I went from being a math coach to a state lead and see my role still as an IC but a different audience.
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A8: Principal support to allow Cs to make time for coaching cycles and work with Ts.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
Totally agree that coaches need coaches!
https://t.co/p88GjRqYJh
#educoach
In reply to @greenangiz
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
yes finding ways to "see" your impact and quantify it is hard
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW
MicheleCCochran
Nov 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A8. Allowed time to deep coach. Admin that understands coaching is not quick or easy.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
Data you can collect can include observational data (of changes in instructional practices, student behavior, etc)
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW
askmrsmartinez
Nov 16 @ 9:46 PM EST
A7: Plateau is my fear. What if growth stops? I wonder "How much do I have to give? Is it enough to really transform my Ts?"
#educoach
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:47 PM EST
A7: I agree with everyone on time constraints, consistency. Also content knowledge can be a challenge and the goal.
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:47 PM EST
As you collect student data it reflect the coaching you've done w/T. There may be T data, too.
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW, @jimknight99
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:47 PM EST
A8.2 I think a healthy addiction to research and personal growth really helps to support comfort in deep coaching
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:47 PM EST
Coaching cycles are an important structure for deep coaching
https://t.co/UuERb2eKme
#educoach
lsmith0917
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:48 PM EST
A8:Ample time for reflection/conversations.Support knowing change may take longer to reach full impact yet investment is evident.
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
A8 Totally agree Admin support! Also, coaching needs C - T privacy. Part of the trust factor. Tricky balance, admin wants report.
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
based on working w/Ts? What tools are there? I make a lot of my own
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q9: What take-aways do you bring with you from tonight’s
#educoach
chat?
watchorn
Nov 16 @ 9:49 PM EST
A8) Meta-coaching; coaching content; reflecting opportunities (-intra & -inter); time is an asset
#educoach
_CLCook
Nov 16 @ 9:50 PM EST
A8 It's not just about admin support; it also involves admin understanding & knowledge of the coaching process & how to deep coach
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:50 PM EST
A9: Deep coaching is HARD; requires more on the part of the one coached than the one doing the coaching
#educoach
jimknight99
Nov 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
There are a lot of free tools for measuring progress here:
https://t.co/2KyexwvxT6
#educoach
In reply to @realAllisonW, @AmyLIllingworth
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
yes. To an extent. I don't always feel that I need it for me, but maybe for others...
#educoach
In reply to @jimknight99, @aprilpfortsiowa, @KathyPerret
drewprice11
Nov 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
To make an impact IC's need - Coaches, Admin support, Student centered/ bit size goals, and Twitter (on wednesdays)
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
A9 I saw many references to admin needing to understand the time needed for deep Cing; as I work w/ admin I will stress this!
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
Deep Coaching=shifted thinking...don't forget about the impact the work will have on students
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:51 PM EST
A9 Love the deep reflections everyone has had on surface and deep coaching! So much to think about tonight!
#educoach
watchorn
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
Coaching data should help inform adaptations & personal-professional growth in cchg work
#educoach
In reply to @KathyPerret, @realAllisonW, @jimknight99
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
A9 No! I don't want our hour to be over. This is so fun! I love twitter chats!!!!
#educoach
educationhall
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
Not only admin support... effective coaches need admin as PARTNERS in the work!
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:45 PM EST
So true. Administrator support is critical - and making sure the same message about coaching is heard throughout school often.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:44 PM EST
A8 Coaches need admin support, open blocks of time, will & skill! They also need their own coaching support & time to reflect
#educoach
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
A9 I have a "coaching cycle" link and "3 Steps to Great Coaching" to read.
#educoach
greenangiz
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
A9 Open minds and open hearts-students always at the center of this work
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
A9 The thought that I need to build more supports for coaches and for those being recruited so they might spread the news
#educoach
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:52 PM EST
Yes!!! Shifted thinking leading to shifts in practice.
#educoach
In reply to @mvd1015
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
Q10: What future topics would you like to discuss here at
#educoach
?
READDehler
Nov 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
A9 - surface coaching does not equal bad coaching, it is an important part of the process
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
A9: Deep or surface, coaching is way to help teachers grow in order to have a profound impact on student learning.
#educoach
#humbling
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
Hi Pete,I have been teaching peeps in Iowa the 4 stages. They love it and get it. So happy I learned them from you
#educoach
In reply to @educationhall
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
Thanks April!!! Love energizing
#educoach
chats! I am feeling inspired!
In reply to @aprilpfortsiowa
OCTVisser
Nov 16 @ 9:53 PM EST
Love this phrase "healthy addiction to research & personal growth"
@freidenbloom
!!! Somehow it makes me feel better! 😉😊
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:47 PM EST
A8.2 I think a healthy addiction to research and personal growth really helps to support comfort in deep coaching
#educoach
drewprice11
Nov 16 @ 9:54 PM EST
a9: Surface coaching is easier/more fun - Deep coaching requires stepping out of comfort zone to make an impact
#educoach
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:54 PM EST
Exactly! Admin need
#TheCoachApproach
by
@shiraleibowitz
@PrincipalJ
&
@KathyPerret
set to be published in May!
#educoach
In reply to @educationhall, @shiraleibowitz, @PrincipalJ, @KathyPerret
shiraleibowitz
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:54 PM EST
That’s a take-away for me; as well as how precious deep coaching is
#educoach
In reply to @READDehler
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:55 PM EST
A10 Any future book studies planned?
#educoach
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:55 PM EST
i felt like this, but when I found something that made me feel the uncomfortable stretch, it has helped me a lot!
#educoach
In reply to @askmrsmartinez
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:55 PM EST
We sure could! Do you have a book in mind?
#educoach
In reply to @AmyLIllingworth
PrincipalJ
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:55 PM EST
We will not have
#educoach
next week due to Thanksgiving holiday.
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
Not necessarily, I'm just always on the look out!
#educoach
In reply to @PrincipalJ
lichuckik
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
A10 How Cs collect data, and what types of data, to determine our effectiveness.
#educoach
CultivateLearn
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
Q9 Past = teacher focused goals. Future = student-centered goals. Take it slow. Ask questions. Be patient.
#educoach
freidenbloom
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
We are using Google Communities to do virtual book chats. It is awesome. If anyone is interested let me know
#educoach
JennEngelken
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
A10: Having the tough conversations with reluctant teachers
#educoach
drewprice11
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
A10: Ic's role in a PLC
#educoach
aprilpfortsiowa
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
A10 Principles to Actions SorryMath focused here but the 8 effectiveTing practices apply to other content with small modifications
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:56 PM EST
A10: building the capacity of other coaches on a large scale. Enjoy new protocols, techniques, language tips ect. to use in PL.
#educoach
DaultonAS
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
A9: As I am with T, can I/should I try to leave them with a question to ponder? There is much to still think.
#educoach
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
Have you read The Art of Coaching Teams? It's great!!
#educoach
In reply to @drewprice11
KathyPerret
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
I love book studies. What are you reading?
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom
AmyLIllingworth
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
That sounds interesting!
#educoach
In reply to @freidenbloom
realAllisonW
- Moderator
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
A9. I have a lot to reflect and consider. Have some reading to do and some Qs to go back & flesh out. I feel growth coming on!
#educoach
JoPrestia
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
A10: Coaching actual school leaders
#educoach
mvd1015
Nov 16 @ 9:57 PM EST
Hi Pete! How motivating is it when you hear about your successes from both coach and admin!
#educoach
In reply to @educationhall
