#k12artchat Archive
#K12ArtChat is an #ArtsEd chat that happens every Thurs 8:30 pm CST founded by #TeamGrundler @ArtGuy76 & @GrundlerArt & share Ss' art on Fridays via #FabArtsFri.
Thursday August 31, 2017
9:30 PM EDT
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#K12ArtChat
tonight! Our host is Michael Warren from
@TerraFormaCards
participatechat
Aug 31 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#k12artchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/f5eJr3lRsa
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Join our chat starting right NOW at
#K12artchat
!!!!!!!
#designthinking
#TFCards
#ideation
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:31 PM EDT
We will be using the Q1/A1 format, be sure to put
#K12ArtChat
at the end of your responses for all to read along.
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:31 PM EDT
so excited to be here!!
#k12artchat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@NowakRo
@norvanivel
come & join the fun tonight!
#K12ArtChat
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Join our chat starting right NOW at
#K12artchat
!!!!!!!
#designthinking
#TFCards
#ideation
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:31 PM EDT
we are glad to have you here!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @TerraFormaCards
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Who's ready to talk ORIGINAL ideation?!
#k12artchat
NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Roman, Ontario, Canada. Teacher/Student Success Lead/Agent of Transformation. I'll be doing two chats tonight. Great to be with
#k12artchat
EvansArtHouse
Aug 31 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Tracy here from Plano! Elem Art T
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tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Christine Miller here - high school in Plano ISD for the chat! Excited to be here tonight!
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us tonight
@NowakRo
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In reply to @NowakRo, @NowakRo
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Say hello
#k12ArtChat
- this is Laura from TX we'd love you to
#sendlove
to our S.Texas friends
https://t.co/J8QVlpMaaF
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Glad to see you again friend!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @EvansArtHouse
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:34 PM EDT
It's time to bust a move
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DorseySammataro
Aug 31 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Excited to join the conversation tonight! Atlanta
#K12ArtChat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Glad to see you here! excited to hear more abt
@TerraFormaCards
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @tagartteacher, @TerraFormaCards
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Loved working with the Plano teachers a couple wks ago! brilliant group!
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LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Laura from Georgia. Lβ€οΈVE
@TerraFormaCards
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us tonight! Glad you are here!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @DorseySammataro
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q1 will drop in just a moment!
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epesART
Aug 31 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Hi
#K12ArtChat
! Jason from Columbus O.
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Q1: How have you seen students struggle with original ideation?
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Matt, K-5, TX. 1/2 of
#TeamGrundler
#K12ArtChat
Pick ME!
In reply to @TerraFormaCards
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Glad you are joining us tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @LauraLaQuaglia, @TerraFormaCards
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I made this handout of the TF ? to put in the kids sketchbook - want them to have easy access - giving them out this week.
#K12ArtChat
epesART
Aug 31 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A1 my ss struggle w/fluency of ideas. I'm trying to get them to slow down & focus on quantity over quality. Trying new things.
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im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 9:38 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
3 hard days putting everything away that were dumped in my temporary room moving back next year after updating...need this chat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us tonight! Glad you are sharing with us tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @epesART
EvansArtHouse
Aug 31 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A1: This has big a bigger issue the longer I teach. Seems everythingvis at their fingertips electronically and can look it up
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NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A1. Ss don't know how to formulate/communicate ideas. They always try to copy/paste what they find elsewhere. No confidence.
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Q1: How have you seen students struggle with original ideation?
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ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Hi! Araceli Hernandez from Los Fresnos, TX
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WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Kerri from GA.
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jamie_wardley
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#k12artchat
Hi Jamie from Panama City! When I see Ss struggle w/ original ideas, i swoop in and shower them w/ encouragement
massignmenthelp
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/FKXZPYFim7
#dentonchat
#K12artchat
#TBookC
AssignmentHelpN
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#dentonchat
#K12artchat
#TBookC
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A1: they go to what they know I'm working with a hs art II class & they struggled - we had a bananacado - dig deep
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A1: My Ss struggle w/ the βask 3β other Ss for feedback. to help the process of ideation.
#K12ArtChat
WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A1: The term "use your imagination" makes some of them super confused. They want this box ready project- and I don't do that.
#K12ArtChat
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q2 is coming up shortly.
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tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:41 PM EDT
In Plano, we have 9 & 10 HS and 11 & 12 Sr. HS - I'm at HS
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im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 9:40 PM EDT
What grades?
In reply to @tagartteacher
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:41 PM EDT
We are glad you are here with us tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @ARTcrayons
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:41 PM EDT
SO TRUE - they want the step by step and can't get out of the box
#K12ArtChat
how do we get them there?
In reply to @WallerArt
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Done - ck email
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EvansArtHouse
Aug 31 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I would love a copy amazing friend! Awesomesauce!
In reply to @tagartteacher
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q2: What are the biggest barriers to creative ideation faced by students?
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NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A1. Ss have a hard time because they don't want to be wrong. Let kids make mistakes and learn! This mindset is needed.
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
we are glad you are here tonight!
#K12ArtChat
timneedles
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Hey
#k12artchat
NY HS
#art
teacher-led a creative mindfulness workshop w/ colleagues today for
@proj_presence
to start the school year!
LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A1: Students that are always told what to do have never had to come up with their own ideas. πso they struggle.
#k12ArtChat
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
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Jayne from pittsburgh checking in a little late
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
#K12artchat
Joy Little Rock -catching up
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Like what people are saying? Follow them & help grow your PLN.
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A2: FEAR of being wrong, fear of failure, loss of their imagination
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q2: What are the biggest barriers to creative ideation faced by students?
#K12ArtChat
NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A2. School does not focus on imagination/creativity. Must get the right answer. Prep for tests. Transform learning/mindset 1st.
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q2: What are the biggest barriers to creative ideation faced by students?
#K12ArtChat
ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A1: It is a major struggle for Ss because they want to immediately go to the Internet for ideas.π
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
never too late.......
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In reply to @jayneesweet
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I think the compartmentalization of other subjects foster this "go to the easy answer" response
In reply to @GrundlerArt
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
#K12artchat
A2 Choice/TAB studio sometimes making selections to focus on - need guidance 4 art proposals
epesART
Aug 31 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A2 biggest barrier can be creative confidence. Ss tend to either go w/1st idea or go simple so as not to stand out from peers.
#k12artchat
jamie_wardley
Aug 31 @ 9:44 PM EDT
#k12artchat
Im finding HS Ss are more afraid to take risks & are mortified of being judged by their peers- even more than elementary
DorseySammataro
Aug 31 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A2 Ideation takes time. Everything they do is immediate & this action of thinking is hard work
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:44 PM EDT
We are glad you joined us tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @joycschultz
EvansArtHouse
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A2: fear of failure but not knowing what to do if you fail. Mom/dad not there to help, gotta do it yourself.. dig deep & do it!
#k12artchat
myassignment
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/zjHe7FChWB
#dentonchat
#K12artchat
#TBookC
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
How do we get to observe what's around them and access their brain for prior knowledge /experience
#k12ArtChat
In reply to @ARTcrayons
im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
A.1. Making sketch books w/grades 3-6. Hoping to do lots of sketching ideas. Probably use
@MonaLisaLvsHeah
's ideas list
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
This is so true in my classes.
#k12artchat
In reply to @LauraLaQuaglia
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A2: beyond confidence, do you think they often lack the process for originality? Do creative ppl know they have a true process
#k12artchat
timneedles
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A1 Many students fear being unique in their ideas because they're so focused on being accepted by their peers- leads to copycats
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ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A2: That their artwork is not as "good" as their classmate. Fear of failing without trying.
#K12ArtChat
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@timneedles
This is my center this year for myself & my classroom! Would love to hear more about it - I think it would help Ss
#K12ArtChat
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#k12ArtChat
A1 we are starting strong. Focusing on own narratives
WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A2: the fear of the unknown. It's so easy to find info today using google. Being pushed to create instead of Google scares them.
#K12ArtChat
LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A2: low expectations stifle creativity. Teachers need to push students. It's uncomfortable, but worth it!
#k12ArtChat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A2: Overload of ideas, trying to not find that it has already been done.
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tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A2: I think DISTRACTION is also a huge problem! More Mindfulness, less technology!
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:46 PM EDT
I think of it more as a work flow than a process but ..........but yes there's research - reading- learning from the masters
#k12ArtChat
In reply to @TerraFormaCards
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q3 will be ready in just a moment.
#K12ArtChat
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Right on! Raise the bar- move their cheese
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LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A2: low expectations stifle creativity. Teachers need to push students. It's uncomfortable, but worth it!
#k12ArtChat
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q3: Do you teach a tangible method or process for creating art?
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timneedles
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Awesome
@tagartteacher
that's terrific, DM me & Ill share some materials!
#K12artchat
https://t.co/njJoxKkiKE
In reply to @tagartteacher, @tagartteacher
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@timneedles
This is my center this year for myself & my classroom! Would love to hear more about it - I think it would help Ss
#K12ArtChat
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:48 PM EDT
If used well it can enhance creativity, so many ideas from following blogs & looking everyday at specific artists & publications
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @tagartteacher
smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Arlene checking in late! What'd I miss?!
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joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:49 PM EDT
#k12ArtChat
A3 I have Themes, ArtisticTargets,& Artist Proposals. It helps narrow the concept & set goal 4 leveling up
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:47 PM EDT
the collective "we" need to figure out how to make this access to info a true tool for Ss. Often we don't know how to keep it from hurting
In reply to @WallerArt
epesART
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A3 begin w/big idea or ? 2 inspire thinking. Then ask ss to respond in their own way. I demo tech. Along the way as well.
#K12ArtChat
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
a TANGIBLE creation process can alleviate some of that "fear of the unknown"
#k12artchat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
So glad you are here anyway!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @smARTisteacher
WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A3: I mix the Engineering and Design process with the Artistic process
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im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
I thought HS. Nice page and guide.
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @tagartteacher
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A3: One thing I ask my 3D Ss to do is write down their PLAN, tools, materials, steps - it forces them to think through project
#K12ArtChat
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 9:51 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
I did divergent thinking today just to get them to think without looking at google. And do they could see more than 1 answer to?
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A3: getting there love this share on
@instagram
we need to teach kids to create visual research journals
#pisdcreatesart
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smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A3: 1 week of ideation with EQ's & teacher led exploration then 1 week of original creation.
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jamie_wardley
Aug 31 @ 9:52 PM EDT
#k12artchat
A3 Ive had them start with their
#sketchbooks
& the elements/principle design matrix
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I always like to start with "Define" so the Ss have a clear understanding of what they are creating and why
#k12artchat
ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A3: Demos of techniques and also a variation of themes seems to help with the thinking and creative process
#K12ArtChat
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:52 PM EDT
#K12artchat
Push students 2 answer "Why?" Have a answer4 the Why.
im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 9:52 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
No exemplars Provide big idea Provide an interesting mix of materials Tell them to make something
In reply to @GrundlerArt, @WallerArt
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q4 is coming up shortly.
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A3: I make the connections by reading books w/ the Ss abt the concept! helps them to figure out how to express the same problem
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NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A3. I use art to teach writing. It's a process, a messy process, that changes & does not have to be strict. Promote creativity.
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DorseySammataro
Aug 31 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A3 I use many different strategies & approaches 2 this process meeting Ss where they are then encouraging forward progress
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SheridaCharles
Aug 31 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Sherida Charles. High school in BC
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:53 PM EDT
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casey_pankey
Aug 31 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Agreed. We don't really leave much room to demonstrate constructive failures.
In reply to @NowakRo, @GrundlerArt
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:54 PM EDT
#k12ArtChat
#pbl
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I think the compartmentalization of other subjects foster this "go to the easy answer" response
In reply to @GrundlerArt
mdeHSD
Aug 31 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Hi
#k12artchat
! Miss my creative crew. Send some inspiration my way. Michelle, OR, instructional coach who loves to do art w/ kids.
smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A2: My students are so use to teacher led activities. It's a challenge to get them to be independent thinkers & creators.
#k12ArtChat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Try using βArtful Thinkingβ . It is an amazing process for general ed to include art in their writing processes.
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @NowakRo
SheridaCharles
Aug 31 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A2: biggest barrier to creative ideas is formulaic assignments and preconceived product
#K12ArtChat
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Thanks for being here tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @mdeHSD
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:55 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Answering "what" connects their art to your curriculum, answering "why" connects it to THEIR voice
In reply to @joycschultz
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:55 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Answering "what" connects their art to your curriculum, answering "why" connects it to THEIR voice
In reply to @joycschultz
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:56 PM EDT
We are so glad you found us and are sharing tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @SheridaCharles
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:56 PM EDT
#K12artchat
A4 we work on skill/tech identifying a artistic target π―
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:56 PM EDT
There are so many strategies and techniques... maybe have Ss or the class develop their OWN creative process?
#k12artchat
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Trying to teach process of creating can be challenging for Ss - they are use to project for a grade.
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @TerraFormaCards
LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A3: research, plan, present, adjust, execute
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:57 PM EDT
WE are so glad you are doing us tonight!
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @fuglefun, @DrydenSchool
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:57 PM EDT
You'll like next week's topic
#K12ArtChat
pushing past the project
In reply to @jayneesweet, @TerraFormaCards
im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 9:57 PM EDT
#K12ArtChat
A.3. Being K-6 I have to do both.... sort of the have to teach them to read so they can read idea we had when I taught 1st gr
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Its a struggle to leave the possibilities endless while "guiding" the process of original art creation
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Yes- we keep a
https://t.co/M9PyLu7V90
link as our progress and research- support the artistic target
In reply to @GrundlerArt
SheridaCharles
Aug 31 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A3: my tangible process is usually experimentation, guided practice, innovation and extend the activity to create original work
#k12artchat
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Nice! Why didn't I think of that?!? :-)
#K12ArtChat
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 9:56 PM EDT
There are so many strategies and techniques... maybe have Ss or the class develop their OWN creative process?
#k12artchat
mdeHSD
Aug 31 @ 9:59 PM EDT
I think appreciating process over product is hard across disciplines unless we help students connect process to product.
#K12artchat
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Trying to teach process of creating can be challenging for Ss - they are use to project for a grade.
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @TerraFormaCards
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Q5 will be with you shortly.
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DorseySammataro
Aug 31 @ 10:00 PM EDT
A3 brainstorm, eliminate, refine, expand, connect, research, experiment
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joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 10:00 PM EDT
#K12artchat
The studio experience is theirs- make it custom 4 their growth
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:00 PM EDT
it runs deep- parents, admin and community expect a product we have to work on finding the balance
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @mdeHSD
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:01 PM EDT
This is an amazing book about being happy with who you are & not wanting all that others have.
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @jamie_wardley
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Q5: How do you assess creativity or originality?
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Critical Words!
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DorseySammataro
Aug 31 @ 10:00 PM EDT
A3 brainstorm, eliminate, refine, expand, connect, research, experiment
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epesART
Aug 31 @ 10:02 PM EDT
A5 With regards to creativity assessment. I assess my ability to create conditions 4 creativity to flourish & thrive.
#K12ArtChat
SheridaCharles
Aug 31 @ 10:02 PM EDT
A4: technical ability can be a hindrance if students are afraid to take risks or abandon known skill. Or it can give confidence
#k12Artchat
tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 10:02 PM EDT
A5: Effort is a huge part of formative and summative assessment - sometimes hard work fails! It's OK!
#K12ArtChat
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 10:03 PM EDT
#K12artchat
A5 I think assessing growth &creativity is driven by the evidence of learning- reflecting/documenting process
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:03 PM EDT
LOVE the connection between Science and Art: 5Es Engage,Explore,Explain,Elaborate,Evaluate
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jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A3 I told Ss today, give me 3 ideas and we will discuss and see which one works best for them. Divergent Thinking
#k12artchat
WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A5- I want to read everyone's answers- this is an interesting question
#K12ArtChat
smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A5: I have my students assess their process then we discuss.
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A5- it's effort how hard did they research or dig for an new idea can the S assess this? They are the only one who really knows
#K12ArtChat
In reply to @k12artchat
mdeHSD
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A5: I don't know if art community would agree but I equated originality with S expression of taught concept with their own twist
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jamie_wardley
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
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a5 There is a creativity component on their rubrics - they have to self assess- and I give feedback
im4art_linda
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Like that. Must make interesting reading A.5.
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In reply to @epesART
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Perhaps the abstract nature of "grading creativity" creates an atmosphere of anxiety?
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NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 10:05 PM EDT
A5. Assess by talking to Ss. Need to stop assessing written work only. Have them talk about process & thinking. Reflecttogether.
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Q5: How do you assess creativity or originality?
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:05 PM EDT
It sure does for admin..........
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Perhaps the abstract nature of "grading creativity" creates an atmosphere of anxiety?
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:05 PM EDT
I love this! You grade the objectives, they assess their creativity!
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smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A5: I have my students assess their process then we discuss.
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LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 10:05 PM EDT
A5: process shows creative thinking
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Opps, we missed Q4. If you want to answer it after 5.
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Q6 will be with you in just a minute.
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:06 PM EDT
at least this makes it more concrete?
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In reply to @mdeHSD
SheridaCharles
Aug 31 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A5: hardest to assess! So many ways students can access solutions not their own. Base on skill level, aptitude/exploratory
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tagartteacher
Aug 31 @ 10:06 PM EDT
That's why part of the evaluation is they evaluate their effort, explaining process, twists & turns...its a convo between T & S
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:04 PM EDT
A5- it's effort how hard did they research or dig for an new idea can the S assess this? They are the only one who really knows
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In reply to @k12artchat
ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Q5: Doing more than what is expected. Going that extra mile results in exposing their true creative potential.
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k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Q6: Whats the difference between creativity and innovation?
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:07 PM EDT
HAHA There's a whole lot that we do that does it for admin! π
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In reply to @GrundlerArt
WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A4- I think sometimes, when students focus more on technique, they lose some of the creativity. We have to find a balance
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A4- technical skill plays a role in confidence & competency is the point of departure - a text from Ted Kincaid
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In reply to @k12artchat
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Like what people are saying? Follow them & help grow your PLN.
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Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A5: I love to have Ss express why they decided to use something or use a certain material.
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jamie_wardley
Aug 31 @ 10:08 PM EDT
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a6 creativity = innovation without the action
joycschultz
Aug 31 @ 10:08 PM EDT
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A6 innovates taking something &reimagining it- it takes creative thinking to deliver it!
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Something I know he's passionate about
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In reply to @GrundlerArt, @k12artchat
WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A: is there one? They seem to go hand in hand
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mdeHSD
Aug 31 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A6: I feel like I can always be creative but I am not always innovative?
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LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A6: Creativity is idea generation. Innovation is implementation.
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:10 PM EDT
I like the ideas about creativity assessment that make it a talking point. Not a grade.
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timneedles
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A6 Being
#creative
& exploring new ideas can lead to innovation, in class I challenge students to share different approaches!
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epesART
Aug 31 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A5 we try & fit creativity & arts into trad. measures of success. Its an intrinsic form of thinking, best assessed by artist.
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:11 PM EDT
well I know the 2 terms seem to be thrown around interchangeably
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In reply to @WallerArt
GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:11 PM EDT
This chat is grooving
@TerraFormaCards
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Confidence in Creativity leads to success in Innovation?
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epesART
Aug 31 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A5 we shouldn't grade ss creativity. We should grade Ts ability to create the space 4 creative minds to grow & shine.
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NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A6. Creativity & innovation should work hand in hand. One = imagination. Other = taking something and creating improvement.
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epesART
Aug 31 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A4 early I favor creative thinking over technical skill. if they have idea 2 share, they will find the skills 2 express it.
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epesART
Aug 31 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A6 creativity precedes innovation. It pushes boundaries/challenges status quo. Once pushed, the door 2 innovation opens.
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:13 PM EDT
There's a book about it
#creativeconfidence
https://t.co/fsxlBv6Cnr
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In reply to @TerraFormaCards
Artguy76
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A6: it is a continual cycle.
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:14 PM EDT
He's keynoting the next
#educationcloset
https://t.co/9C7BAIia4i
conference in Feb!
@DanielPink
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In reply to @TerraFormaCards, @timneedles, @DanielPink, @DanielPink
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Huge Thanks to
@TerraFormaCards
for hosting tonight & to all of
#K12ArtChat
for making it such an amazing, sharing group of EDUs!
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 10:15 PM EDT
I have Ss do this in their artist statement and reflection
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In reply to @Artguy76
epesART
Aug 31 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Thanks
#K12ArtChat
&
@TerraFormaCards
for great chat:)
smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A6: Creativity is equated with developing original ideas. Innovation is thought of as improving on a process or idea.
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Thanks so much for having me! Hope you all check out Terra Forma Cards for fostering original ideation!
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:16 PM EDT
we are going to have to have a follow up vlog!!
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send us questions you'd like us to ask
@TerraFormaCards
aka Michael
In reply to @k12artchat, @TerraFormaCards, @TerraFormaCards
k12artchat
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Donβt forget to make Friday Fab! Share your Ss artwork using
#FabArtsFri
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mdeHSD
Aug 31 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Some kids need this advice:
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ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A6: Creativity pushes the envelope to a higher level of consciousness that morphs into their individual innovation process.
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Ready and willing! Loved the collective mind of tonight's chat!
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In reply to @GrundlerArt, @k12artchat
LauraLaQuaglia
Aug 31 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Thanks for the creative and innovative discussion! I gotta go make something now!
@TerraFormaCards
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#CobbArtRocks
jayneesweet
Aug 31 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A6 you innovate creativity, you don't create innovation
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:18 PM EDT
We would love to see your teachers again soon!! One of our fav PDs
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In reply to @LauraLaQuaglia
TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:19 PM EDT
well phrased
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In reply to @jayneesweet
k12artchallenge
Aug 31 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Join in on the fun! September
#K12ArtChallenge
is 30 Circles in 30 days!
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ARTcrayons
Aug 31 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Awesome chat! Good night everyone!
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8blah8blah8
Aug 31 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Creativity is doing something beautiful outside the norm. INNOVATION is something completelyππ±π»
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WallerArt
Aug 31 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Good night!
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8blah8blah8
Aug 31 @ 10:20 PM EDT
#PeteCashmore
who founded
@mashable
and WAS WED today π¦π»π°π» is creative.
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mdeHSD
Aug 31 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Great to connect tonight! Thank you!
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TerraFormaCards
Aug 31 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Get some rest peeps! Young artistic minds await tomorrow bright and early!
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NowakRo
Aug 31 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Thanks for the great chat. Thanks for the invite
@Artguy76
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8blah8blah8
Aug 31 @ 10:21 PM EDT
#SteveJobs
who founded Apple and ππ½ββοΈππ»ππΌββοΈππΎππ»ββοΈππΎ π²π»π₯ was INNOVATIVE.
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smARTisteacher
Aug 31 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Lot's to think about! Thanks for an awesome chat!
@TerraFormaCards
@k12artchat
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Send a message of support and encouragement to educators impacted by Hurricane Harvey
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GrundlerArt
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Until next week ya'll get ready for
@LauraLaQuaglia
@DorseySammataro
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8blah8blah8
Aug 31 @ 10:26 PM EDT
I hope all the
#k12artchat
πTs develop innovative + creative pedagogical approaches to engaging + teaching Ss about ART. Prayer
#Hajj2017