#LearnLAP Archive
#LearnLAP occurs on Mondays starting at 7pm Central Time. Guest moderators and participants discuss topics from author Paul Solarz's book Learn Like a PIRATE.
Monday March 6, 2017
8:00 PM EST
participatechat
Mar 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#LearnLAP
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to
#LearnLAP
!
@PegGrafwallner
& I are honored to be your moderators tonight. Thanks to
@PaulSolarz
for having us!
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Please introduce yourselves and follow five new people. Let's expand the
#LearnLAP
PLN!
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Hi
#learnlap
PLN. Lemarr Treadwell, Fresno CA
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Thrilled to be moderating
#LearnLAP
with my friend,
@RewardingEdu
! Super fun!
In reply to @RewardingEdu
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening
#learnlap
This is Melissa from Katy TX! Happy Monday.
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Terence white 7th grade science teacher. Aurora, IL
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MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Veronica from
#saskchat
but in Texas for
#LearnLAP
!
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening and Happy Monday! Amanda here from NJ this evening. Here for my first
#learnlap
chat. Look forward to learning with everyone.
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Hi! Carol, 5th grade teacher from Virginia.
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acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Adam, 5/6 social studies, Brooklyn, Ohio!
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Yeah! The gang is all here!
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening
#learnlap
This is Melissa from Katy TX! Happy Monday.
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Happy Monday! Jessie Erickson, Grand Forks, ND
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briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Brian from SE MN. I teach me EL.
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4thgradefrenzie
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Kristen from Katy, TX!
#learnlap
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Good evening
#LearnLAP
friends! Todd from NY, HS assistant principal. Glad to be here tonight!
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Peg
@PegGrafwallner
and Robert
@RewardingEdu
excited to learn with two amazing moderators and educators tonight.
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @RewardingEdu
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Robert here from Los Angeles. Honored to be hosting with my pal, Peg.
@PegGrafwallner
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
goformative
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Thanks for joining our weekly chat! We are heading over to
#LearnLAP
to learn more! Over and out!
#formativechat
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hello from Kim and Jill, literacy educators, joining
#LearnLAP
from Fredericton, NB.
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Howdy
#learnlap
from Barbara, school counselor and author of
#WhatsUnderYourCape
in Friendswood, TX.
rader4thgrade
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Malinda, 4th grade teacher from NC
#learnlap
#SuperFRES
#FRESlucky
jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Jason, elementary principal in NC.
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
So happy you're here, my friend!
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Peg
@PegGrafwallner
and Robert
@RewardingEdu
excited to learn with two amazing moderators and educators tonight.
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @RewardingEdu
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Amber from NC. Learner, Teacher, Ed Coach. Lover of language, innovation, creativity and more!
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hello and good evening my friend.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
#LearnLAP
will be a fast-paced chat tonight. 12 questions coming at you every 4 minutes. Ready for some deep professional self-refection?
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hi y'all! I'm Elyse from Katy and teach/work with special ed and all of the above.
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hey there
#learnlap
! Looking forward to learning some new things tonight!
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
You are amazing, I received your book. I can't wait to read it.
#learnlap
In reply to @BarbaraGruener
MikeSinde
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Happy Monday! HS Engineering teacher and
#MakerEd
from Illinois
#learnlap
goformative
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hey everyone! David from Formative here! First time joining
#LEARNlap
!
#formativechat
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Scott from NJ here for some
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Great to see you
@BarbaraGruener
!
#learnlap
In reply to @BarbaraGruener
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Howdy
#learnlap
from Barbara, school counselor and author of
#WhatsUnderYourCape
in Friendswood, TX.
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Laura, HS Eng from MO ready to learn.
#learnlap
mrskodecrawford
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
4th grade teacher from Sulphur Springs, Texas
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Q1 What are the pros & cons of telling your students TO do something?
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
I'm Paul Solarz, a 5th grade tchr & author of "Learn Like a Pirate." Excited for tonight's chat & thrilled so many could make it!
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Hi
@sdtitmas
! Thank you for joining us!
#learnlap
In reply to @sdtitmas
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Scott from NJ here for some
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Amanda Elgin, SPED K-2, Lover of learning!
#learnlap
ryanarnold1968
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Ryan from Kansas. Instructional coach. Happy to be here!
#learnlap
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Hello! 5th grade math teacher from Texas.
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Good evening everyone. John, AP and Grade 5 teacher from suburban Chicago
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Let's go! Argh!
#learnlap
In reply to @RewardingEdu
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Liz, principal from WI ready to learn with all of you! Bring on
#learnlap
!
TheLegitTeacher
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
I hope everyone had a great Monday, I'll be lurking tonight while I take care of a few other things!
#4thchat
#LearnLAP
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Good evening! Kathy, first grade teacher from Baltimore sort of lurking from behind a pile of laundry
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Good Evening Katy friend!
#learnlap
In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Thank you for joining us,
@ElginElgin3
#learnlap
In reply to @ElginElgin3
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Amanda Elgin, SPED K-2, Lover of learning!
#learnlap
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Maria, 5th grade teacher in NJ! Excited to be here!
#learnlap
Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
#learnlap
Hi everyone, Rachelle frm Pittsburgh, Spanish & STEAM T,hopping over from
#formativechat
In reply to @RewardingEdu, @PegGrafwallner, @PaulSolarz
McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
3rd grade teacher, soon to be administrator, in Hingham, MA. Glad to check in with my
#LearnLAP
&
#admin2b
#PLN
!
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Pros: provides instruction, direction, guidance Cons: could reduce exploration, limit self-direction, generate dependency
#learnlap
giveawaynood
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
I hope everyone had a great Monday, I'll be lurking tonight while I take care of a few other things!
#4thchat
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
We are thrilled you're here! Thank you!
#learnlap
goformative
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hey everyone! David from Formative here! First time joining
#LEARNlap
!
#formativechat
briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: pro it lets the T follow a plan. Con: it could give Ss less choice.
#LearnLAP
MsCommins108
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
#LearnLAP
Good evening! Bronwyn from CT. 7th and 8th grade ELA.
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Pro- students know exactly what to do. Con- students only give you exactly what you asked for- no creativity.
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1:Pros: provides instruction, direction, guidance Cons: could reduce exploration, limit self-direction, generate dependency
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Con: They don't get the opportunity to think critically how to solve problems for themselves.
#learnlap
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
is a favorite in my classroom.
#learnlap
In reply to @goformative
MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1) make sure you have assessed prior learning and have a REALationship with S
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
Hi
@ERTOlson
! Glad you're with us tonight!
#learnlap
In reply to @ERTOlson
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Liz, principal from WI ready to learn with all of you! Bring on
#learnlap
!
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: pro is that you have a task for them to accomplish and the teach is goal driven. Con: will the Ss see the purpose? ?
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
So true!
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Con: They don't get the opportunity to think critically how to solve problems for themselves.
#learnlap
ryanarnold1968
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1 Telling to do good for easy tasks...the con is that there is no ownership if you're doing what someone else asks you to do it
#learnlap
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: Telling Ss is clear what the expectation is. However, Ss can become defensive and reactive, this lessening their engagement.
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
#learnlap
To do something specific takes away their choice, creativity. Telling removes voice Asking, guiding, posing open-ended ques better
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Q1 What are the pros & cons of telling your students TO do something?
#LearnLAP
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: Pros - helps Ss who need that explicit, concrete direction, Cons - limits Ss thinking about what they CAN do
#learnlap
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: Telling Ss what to do creates compliance but can squash curiosity, innovation and growth.
#learnlap
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Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Ss will only work as hard as we want them to!
#learnlap
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Pro- students know exactly what to do. Con- students only give you exactly what you asked for- no creativity.
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Q1: pros- we can be specific with students about what we want/need from them in certain situations.
#LearnLAP
MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Pros - provides Ss with direction, and information from a reliable source Cons - decreases agency & increases compliance
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Q1 What are the pros & cons of telling your students TO do something?
#LearnLAP
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: you will get a task completed. There could be consistency in the work/outcome. Ss will do it out of fear of consequences.
#LearnLAP
MrDurajWildcats
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Hi all, Matt from Cleveland 7th grade math
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LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1. The biggest con in this strategy is the Shift occurring in education to allow Ss discovery of their learning
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Q1 What are the pros & cons of telling your students TO do something?
#LearnLAP
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 Sometimes when you tell them what to do, it can be a stepping stone to them choosing what to do next.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Con: Maybe reading into it but never like being told to do something. Maybe asked or challenged instead?
#LearnLAP
briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
what if I tell them to pick a problem they see in the world and create a solution for it?
#LearnLAP
In reply to @ElginElgin3
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Seems to be a fine line, sometimes, doesn't it?
#learnlap
In reply to @ChouinardJahant
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Very true!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
I couldn't agree more with this!
#learnlap
In reply to @ElginElgin3
PMcPeake1
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 Pros, T's can be specific. Cons, S's stay within the line, creativity killer.
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Q2 What place do procedures and positive reinforcement have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 Pro - Ask and you shall receive Con - We limit individualization
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: Pro: There is guidance and a clear expectation. Con: No real purpose given; where is the buy in?
#LearnLAP
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: Pro=Ss know exactly what you want from them. Con=You get ONLY what you ask for, nothing more-nothing less.
#learnlap
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Thanks for retweeting! I'm inspired by people like you
#learnlap
In reply to @PaulSolarz
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Specificity is important, Todd. Some kids need concrete directions.
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Q1: pros- we can be specific with students about what we want/need from them in certain situations.
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Great point. Beginning w/ some direction, but then giving Ss opportunity for choice
#learnlap
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 Sometimes when you tell them what to do, it can be a stepping stone to them choosing what to do next.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
So true.
#learnlap
ryanarnold1968
Mar 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1 Telling to do good for easy tasks...the con is that there is no ownership if you're doing what someone else asks you to do it
#learnlap
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Q1.1: cons- we limit S thinking about how to do something, re-enforce a stereotype that only adults know best, Ss conform.
#LearnLAP
MrDurajWildcats
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1) they need to know the why and the purpose. How will that task help them to be better students and people
#LearnLAP
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1.2: Ss will then begin to complete tasks only if told to which leads to lack of creativity/independent thought.
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1
#learnlap
Deeper learning comes from personal choice, Relevance, and interest. Options lead to discovery, self-monitoring & independence
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1A: do we like it when admin tells us what and how to do stuff?
#realworld
#LearnLAP
MikeSinde
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: Ss sometimes need a starting point - a direction before exploring on their own. It helps to have an objective for Ss.
#learnlap
Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
#learnlap
A1 Con, Ss dont have choices, limits potential & indep Pro - know the expectations of assignment, etc. Helps guide
In reply to @RewardingEdu
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 Inviting student voice and choice increases engagement and motivation.
#LearnLap
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 - I want my students to build awareness of personal responsibility, so I try not to tell them to do things unless necessary!
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1:Pros: Clear expectation/direction. Cons: Limits voice, creativity, innovation, curiosity. Do we want compliance or engagement?
#learnlap
4thgradefrenzie
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: Pro-Ss have clear directions on what's expected. Con- Ss give EXACTLY what is asked.
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
That would be fantastic!!!! Student ownership, Critical thinking/planning/reflecting.
#LearnLap
In reply to @briandurgin
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1:
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The cons: may not be buy in. Disrespectful. Negative reactions. Pro: Sometimes you have to tell them to do something.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
I like this emphasis on directions being foundational, Scott!
#LearnLAP
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 Sometimes when you tell them what to do, it can be a stepping stone to them choosing what to do next.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: Pro- help with focus and guidance Con - stifles creativity
#learnlap
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
Hi Shelfie Talk! So glad you're here!
#learnlap
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 Inviting student voice and choice increases engagement and motivation.
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Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: pros- they might think it's important (for safety line up quickly for fire drill or tie your shoes) but con- resentment
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Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1
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We do not want compliance but Engagement. We do not want silence but organized chaos, stu-cent classrooms are all about choice
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: Clear procedures and routines are necessary for classroom management. Positive reinforcement supports your expected behaviors.
#learnlap
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srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Nice distinction b/w compliance & innovation. I sometimes see Ts satisfied bc Ss r compliant, but r they engaged?
#LearnLAP
In reply to @BarbaraGruener
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2 - I try to design "rituals" that my students can follow without adult direction, allowing them the freedom to be student-led.
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Q2 What place do procedures and positive reinforcement have in your classroom?
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rizzapiccio
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Good morning
#LearnLAP
Rizza here from Philippines
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
#learnlap
Sorry so late. Will be in and out. But didn't want to miss this great chat! Margie from PA
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2 procedures help to minimize the need for confrontations. If all know expectations there is less miscommunication and fights
#learnlap
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
I have adopted this model from YOU and my Ss are rising to the occasion! They love the freedom and are thriving!
#learnlap
In reply to @PaulSolarz
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Thanks! Great topic this evening. Thanks for moderating.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: procedures are a good classroom baseline for instruction. Positive reinforcement helps create a great culture for everyone.
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Absolutely. Give Ss the chance to be leaders and they will surprise us!
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1
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We do not want compliance but Engagement. We do not want silence but organized chaos, stu-cent classrooms are all about choice
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1 Telling, to me, means giving information. It's T-centered. Con: Ss don't always listen or react how you'd like
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: procedures are crucial in the beginning to learn systems but then students take ownership. I like to praise when I see awesome
#learnlap
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: feedback and desire to grow as a learner should be their desired reward. The occasional surprise reward is nice, not necessary
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: The goal is as much responsibility as possible given to the Ss with procedures. Teach them responsibility by giving them some
#LearnLAP
jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
Positive reinforcement makes following procedures much easier.
#LearnLAP
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 I'd say I have more expectations instead of procedures. Positive reinforcement IS KEY in my classroom.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1: In a Student lead classroom, sometimes the teacher gets to pull rank. We have to do what we are told sometimes. Real Life!
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2.1 Awesome happens a lot
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: Don;t get me started on Positive reinforments. So necessary. Extremely beneficial for Ss with behaviors. Promote
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Q3 How can procedures & positive reinforcement be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
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MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: procedures don't need to carbon copy recipes - norm behaviors that are interconnected serve a purpose and provide flexibility
#LearnLAP
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
YES! How do they become trustworthy if we don't trust them? How can they become leaders if we don't let them lead?
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
I like the word "ritual," sounds valued and respected
#learnlap
In reply to @PaulSolarz
McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: They do not have a place. They are the life-blood of my classroom. Like saying what place does oxygen belong in your body!
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2.2: Believe in the greatness of your students. When you set the bar high they will surpass it & amaze you w/their abilities
#learnlap
rizzapiccio
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2 should be the TOP priority it is w/ procedure and + reinforcement that Ss strove to be their best
#learnLAP
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Procedures for specific things that are important/for safety. Pos. reinforcement keeps those happening.
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Positive reinforcement always starts by me modeling. Love when the Ss start taking ownership and doing so w/ each other
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2.2 Positive reinforcement used intermittently can be a powerful motivator when establishing routines and procedures.
#learnlap
MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2) encourage on task behaviour and build relationships
#learnlap
MrDurajWildcats
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: they drive my instruction. Focus on what s's do well and make baby steps in areas they struggle with. Celebrate small steps
#learnlap
Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
#learnlap
A2 impt to have clear procedures but involve Ss in some, + reinf great for building classroom culture, collab
In reply to @RewardingEdu
rader4thgrade
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: I definitely have procedures that become the "norm" & positive reinforcement helps support expectations
#learnlap
#SuperFRES
#FRESlucky
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Q2: procedures and positive reinforcement are heart of my classroom - they pump life to instruction so it can happen seamlessly
#LearnLAP
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Procedures allow for self regulation and allows Ss to develop independence. Positive reinforcement affirms student choices.
#learnlap
mrskodecrawford
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Routines provide Ss with standard things that need done - all Ss can (should) help classroom function
#LearnLAP
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: procedures help with the classroom flow, positive reinforcement encourages Ss engagement and desire to take risks
#learnlap
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
So agree! To much praise & Ss come to expect it. Meaningful struggle is okay!
#learnlap
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2.2 Positive reinforcement used intermittently can be a powerful motivator when establishing routines and procedures.
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specialtechie
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
Had to stop in to
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ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: Don't get me started on positive reinforcements. So helpful for Ss with behaviors. Promote/praise the good.
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triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
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A1 Con- compliance vs creation
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But if you explain value and ask for new POVs then there can be pros to TO.
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sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
Agreed. Also, reflect on what follows from your directions. Could Ss have led more? less?
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briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: procedures provide structure for learning. Pos. reinforcements provide
#sel
for students. Ss want to be good at something.
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JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: Procedures are needed for the classroom to run with or without the teacher. There are some things that must happen in school.
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MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2:procedures are the invisible hand that make the classroom run smoothly,time is spent developing them to increase learning time.
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
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Independent stu-driven activities require modeled procedures but flexible instructions. Ss need a map but freedom of destination.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Q2 What place do procedures and positive reinforcement have in your classroom?
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pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
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A2 For me, it's relationship first, building community, positive reinforcement and then routines/procedures are so much easier
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A3: Too often we get in their way! Hold students to high expectations but give them room to surpass them
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acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A3: structure of every moment limits the independent growth of Ss. There needs to be flexibility of movement and procedures.
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MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 procedures & expectations help create an interdependent community of learners. T can help guide and model restoration of comm.
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LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A1.
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Pro. I get to offer very specific steps they would go through and provide a model
goformative
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
great Q! A1: Ss need opp. to discover! Leads to greater engagement!
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In reply to @RewardingEdu
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A3: Te spent away from being engaged with learning.
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ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: Procedures help Ss know/understand expectations explicitly. Minimizes mishaps and misconceptions.
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ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 Consistent routines allow students to focus on learning and increase independence.
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BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A3: If Ss come to rely on our extrinsic reinforcers and it delays transfer to intrinsic self-reliance, growth could be stifled.
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MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
Agreed but positive reinforcements must be paired with authentic assessment feedback to move learners forward
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triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
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A2 Procedures create safety and calm anxieties. Reinforcement is the quickest way to communicate you SEE your Ss, you Hear your Ss
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
Hi Amanda, so glad you're here! First chat? Awesome!! Now we really feel special!
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_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening and Happy Monday! Amanda here from NJ this evening. Here for my first
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chat. Look forward to learning with everyone.
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3: Procedures set limits in a way. Sticking strictly to them always can possible create an atmosphere where Ss cannot go above
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MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3: as a T of 5th graders, sometimes a teachable moment is more meaningful than searching for something positive to say
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briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
drown out the bad.
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In reply to @ElginElgin3
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: I have routines for some things, and pos reinforcmnt is king. I do try to find ONE nice thing to say to that one difficult S.
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Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3: it can be counterproductive is we don't allow room for innovation and creativity.
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
Structure, systems, scaffolds, strategies, supports, and security = comfortable kids
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briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: procedures provide structure for learning. Pos. reinforcements provide
#sel
for students. Ss want to be good at something.
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jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
It's hard to personalize learning for students if we are making all of the decisions for them 🤔
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Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: procedures and routines are comforting to Ss, especially littles. Our morning & afternoon routines never vary much
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Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2Positive reinforcement is vital for my sped Ss. Procedures are taught and modeled as are expectations.
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Q4 What are the pros and cons of telling your students what NOT to do?
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ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: When the positive reinforcement is loosely used and not attached to meaningful tasks.
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Chemteach201
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A2. Procedures and positive reinforcement create a consistent environment. A lot to be said for consistency
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MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A2.1: + reenforcement encourages Ss to continue doing what benefits the classroom, celebrates Ss & actions that increase learning.
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MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A4: Con: Telling them isn't a learning experience. Them learning from their mistakes is
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MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: Ss may get the idea that the routine always has to be followed and that we do things for praise or reward...
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Key word: Consistent. Right on!
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ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 Consistent routines allow students to focus on learning and increase independence.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: In our class, positive reinforcement looks different for each student. Praising everyone for everything diminishes returns!
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ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Oh my goodness...so great!
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McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: They do not have a place. They are the life-blood of my classroom. Like saying what place does oxygen belong in your body!
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Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Amen!!
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jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
It's hard to personalize learning for students if we are making all of the decisions for them 🤔
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
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When things get stagnate b/c everything is a routine. Ss need variety & spontaneity and common goals & procedures -Flexibility key
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Q3 How can procedures & positive reinforcement be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
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MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A4: Lack of direction sometimes becomes lack of action. It's a balancing act with hits and misses
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rader4thgrade
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A4: Students can't learn and grow from making mistakes
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MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3: The key to a student-led classroom is the STUDENTS! Often, + reinforcement deters stu-leadership; empower Ss to develop norms
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Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
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When things get stagnate b/c everything is a routine. Ss need variety & spontaneity and common goals & procedures -Flexibility key
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Q3 How can procedures & positive reinforcement be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
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kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3: When that is ALL there is, Ss lose the spontaneous. Pos. reinforcement can seem forced when given for every little thing.
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MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3: Positive reinforcement has its place but collaboration is also about constructive criticism (respectfully of course) as well
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specialtechie
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: Procedures & positive reinforcement help build the classroom community, especially when the S's are involved in creating them.
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MikeSinde
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A4: Con - we often learn more from our mistakes than our failures. Telling Ss what not to do limits that.
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3 As a SPED P, I LOVE hearing this. Thank you!
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: In our class, positive reinforcement looks different for each student. Praising everyone for everything diminishes returns!
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triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
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A3 Compliance. Stagnation. Blah. "I've got this" mentality where ego overshadows the importance of trial and error.
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acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A4: pros: Ss self-discover their interests and connections. Ss develop creativity. Cons: missed connections and lack of depth.
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MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2
#gamification
concept that creativity flows from having rules and procedures. It is working within the structure that causes it
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Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4: I'm going to quote Nike: Just do it! Great teachers tell Ss what to do instead of what not to do!
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_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4: Pros: The expectations are clear. Cons: Ss can see it as a challenge to defy.
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LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
#learnlap
What Margie just said. Boom!
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
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A2 For me, it's relationship first, building community, positive reinforcement and then routines/procedures are so much easier
4thgradefrenzie
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A2.a: Both are critical! Procedures allow Ss to feel independent &S led. They can have ownership in the routines of the classroom!
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srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
Q3: Counterproductive extreme = instruction grinds to an awful squelching halt OR when Ss are pos ref 4 mediocre "compliance."
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JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3: When procedures and reinforcement get in the way of Ss voice, choice and learning we have forgotten what we are here for.
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MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4: Pro: When done correctly, we can use it as discussion leading to a learning experience. Provide that direction
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Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4 setting limits on the creativity component. Some may req more limits to facilitate their parameters but not always all
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MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A2: Important to give them a say in their "procedures" and rewards. They nominate and vote on the class leaders. It's their class.
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mathcoachrivera
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
Q4 "telling is not teaching and told is not taught". Kids learn through experience
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4 That's why I'm big fan of process & failure.As long as we provide reasons 4 process & support 4 failure, Ss r good!
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In reply to @MikeSinde
MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4: Many times Ts (myself include) work hard to protect Ss from making mistakes instead of using it as an opportunity to reflect
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Q4 What are the pros and cons of telling your students what NOT to do?
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jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4 Students must fall before they have it all.
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MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A4: Pros - avoid safety hazards and potential non-constructive frustration Cons - giving more restrictions
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
Great distinction, Elizabeth! Praise scholarship and effort, not mere compliance.
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ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: When the positive reinforcement is loosely used and not attached to meaningful tasks.
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ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A4: Oftentimes, when telling Ss what not to do (esp. with younger babies), you most certainly are encouraging them "to do".
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MrDurajWildcats
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A4: the joy is not telling them. Let creativity (with soft boundaries) lead instruction and discussion.
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sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3 Too many "rules" and no student choice. Positive reinforcement where all behavior is acceptable, no discipline.
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In reply to @RewardingEdu
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A4: We have to have some clear expectations. Sometimes these include "nots" like bullying, being unsafe, threatening, etc.
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MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3: when procedures are too complex and numerous, their purpose get lost and Ss see them as prohibiting their own growth in class.
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MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
I have made many Positive changes thanks to
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A4: +: Quick & easy, Stops a negative behavior. -: Creates power struggles, Adults think for the Ss & they come to rely on it.
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Q4 What are the pros and cons of telling your students what NOT to do?
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kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A4: Pro- Ss have clear boundaries/what they can't do. Or saves time w/lesson.Con-Ss won't learn concept as well w/o the mistakes.
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A2 & when they have that say, gives Ss time to reflect & process. They make it right.
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MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A2: Important to give them a say in their "procedures" and rewards. They nominate and vote on the class leaders. It's their class.
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
Q5 What place do warnings and negative consequences have in your classroom?
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LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
#learnlap
I agree with Jason. Our task is provide more Ss Voice and Choice.
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jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
It's hard to personalize learning for students if we are making all of the decisions for them 🤔
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MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3 Overjustification effect-When authentic experience is paired w a reward the reward becomes more valued and intrinsic falls away
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
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Putting limits on discovery, creativity, independence is taking away choice, voice. Ss need a blank slate and endless utensils.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Q4 What are the pros and cons of telling your students what NOT to do?
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MikeSinde
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
.
@PegGrafwallner
Couldn't agree more! Ss need support when they fail.
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In reply to @PegGrafwallner
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A4 You may deter common mistakes OR you show little confidence in them by assuming they'll do something wrong.
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ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3: Too many PBS (positive behavioral supports) can ruin the creation of intrinsic motivation.
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4thgradefrenzie
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A2.b
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
and I wanted a fast-paced chat!
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_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Yes. Trying to keep up. 12 questions is quick. Thanks!
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triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
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A4 Pro- Saves time and keeps them from failure but (con) is the same. Can't Ss determine what NOT to do if we ask them the right ?
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
Just gotta say that the
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PLN is rockin' it tonight. Great, insightful, balanced responses, gang!
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A4 pro - safety issues. Don't mix that hydrocloric acid with..., etc...
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MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A5: I believe in the power of privileges connected to expectations. If Ss don't meet expectations they will lose privileges
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pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
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A2 Amazing how much easier the rest of the year goes when we invest a lot time up front forming relationships & setting up routine
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3: Make the learning the reward.
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Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
so true and accurate!
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In reply to @ElginElgin3
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
#learnlap
Paul. I try to always encourage their effort and remind them of delayed gratification.
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: In our class, positive reinforcement looks different for each student. Praising everyone for everything diminishes returns!
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ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A4: Pros: Clear expectations and boundaries. Cons: Who is doing the thinking? What about the teaching component?
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MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A4: pros: we potentially encourage Ss to think outside of the box, solve problems without telling them how.
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Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A5 negative consequences are a cause/effect of actions. Students learn how to be learners & that can be tough.
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stacyshughes
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
That was a lovely thought! Shades of Scout Finch... "I never loved to read. One does not love breathing."
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McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: They do not have a place. They are the life-blood of my classroom. Like saying what place does oxygen belong in your body!
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
#LearnLAP
This is a fast-paced chat! Please know, answer questions at your own pace! We're just happy & grateful for your wonderful ideas!
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A5 - Sometimes, our class can get into a rut. Individual feedback can make students aware of the problem & focus in on improving.
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Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
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A4 let Ss figure out some things on own, can discover new interests, cons, maybe they are not motivated enough
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acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A5: Ss need to understand that there are consequences for drastic actions. I prefer talks where Ss gain understanding for actions.
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
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A4 Having procedures is good but Ss need the strategies and the opportunities to choose their own learning path.
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Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3: time constraints can rush routines. Also, strict routines do not allow for changes like a substitute teacher or bday party
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MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A4 unlimited freedom can also be paralyzing. Creativity comes from rubbing up to and finding ways around limitations
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JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A5: Warning are part of real world: being prepared for crisis (lock-downs, fire drills, tornadoes) is part of life and learning.
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Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A5: instead of using the word negative, I tell them about choices. When they make a bad choice, negative things will happen.
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_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A colleagues s noted it's about the pride not the prize!!!! Love it
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SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A4: Telling Ss what not to do=con if Ss don't get to figure things out on their own. Pro=Ss avoid specific product I don't want.
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srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A4: Pro: can show specific boundaries, help Ss distinguish b/w types of behavior Con: may not teach what TO do
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
So true! Meaningful struggle gives our Ss the chance to process & reflect!
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In reply to @ERTOlson
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A4.1: Cons: Ss may not have the structure that they need in order to be successful.
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kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A5: Warnings are needed sometimes-Consequences come when warnings aren't listened to. Helps Ss learn for the next time.
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briandurgin
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A5: try to make lessons so amazing you don't have to worry about consequences. Ss too busy learning.
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MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A5: Expectations are set, made clear, everyone capable of mtg expectations, choosing not to do so results in a loss of privelege
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MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A5: Ss are part of the development of expectations. When they don't follow them, there is consequence (Ss frequently share them)
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NRatwatte
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A5- Positive Reinforcement Always with a high expectations = gain increase in positive attributes and behaviour
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RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
Q6 How can negative consequences, multiple warnings, and punishments be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
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MrDurajWildcats
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
a5: they serve as a reminder when excitement for learning gets out of hand :)
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MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4 every engaging game ever made has restrictions. It is the hard work of overcoming the artificial obstacles that makes it great
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4 Love this
@mathcoachrivera
! Thank you!
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In reply to @mathcoachrivera
mathcoachrivera
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
Q4 "telling is not teaching and told is not taught". Kids learn through experience
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MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A5b: warnings and consequences/loss of privilege are opportunities to learn and change the behavior...use it to grow not get stuck
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MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: Other than issues of safety, telling them what not to do takes away their right to make mistakes, which limits their learning.
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MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A5: Ss deserve opportunities to learn from "mistakes" without punishment or fear as a looming threat
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ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
Beautifully put.
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In reply to @_AmandaFry
jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A5 There will always be consequences for our actions. It's those teachable moments that make up for the mistakes.
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pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
#learnlap
A4: positive: We have some T'ers who are gifted at sharing non-examples (what not to do) in a funny way but get the point across
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A6: When there are so many consequences, warning, etc. it just becomes white noise
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Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: gotta harp on safety again so "do not play on the stairs" is ok but do not run on the playground defeats some of the purpose
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ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A5: When they are a previously communicated, logical response to an unexpected behavior.
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Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A5: of a Ss makes a bad choice, hopefully they will learn from this choice.
#lifeskills
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ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
#learnlap
during 1-minute ckin we discuss behavior together- I redirect w/ pos reinforcement. My end quote daily -Thank you for learning.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
Q5 What place do warnings and negative consequences have in your classroom?
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PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4 Failure w/ support and opportunity to identify the failure gives Ss chances to do it again. Isn't that what we all want?
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MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: Other than issues of safety, telling them what not to do takes away their right to make mistakes, which limits their learning.
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MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A6: If the point is reached where those things become so frequent, then changes need to be made. Not more consequences or warnings
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srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5: consequences r established parts of routine, predictable
#TLAC
, Redirection instead of warning - goal to get back to learning.
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kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A6: When punishment causes a chain reaction- Ss reacts & gets more punishment- just drives a wedge in the T/Ss relationship.
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_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5:Warnings are for that reality check. Having systems in place should allow students to self regulate.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A6: If the only feedback a Ss hears is negative, eventually their attitude, effort & sense of belonging wanes. Show them you care!
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MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5 negative actions that break the communal bonds should have negative consequences that cause member to want to fix the offense
#learnlap
Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
#learnlap
A5 A way to help Ss learn and grow from mistakes, take ownership, use fdbk, learn for future
In reply to @RewardingEdu
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: Once a Ss makes a bad choice, we have to tell them when they improve and get better.
#growthmindset
#LearnLAP
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: Ss find behavior as a challenge to push the limits and get on our "bad side". This counters their focus on learning & growth.
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: When you are using the same responses over and over to redirect the same behavior. Then, it's time to look a little deeper.
#learnlap
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: Who wants to be reprimanded and told what they are doing is wrong ALL of the time? Sometimes Ss need something else
#learnlap
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5 Actions have consequences. Be fair to the student, circumstance, & their action.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: too often schools become punitive machines-lots of punishments without getting to the root issue doesn't solve anything
#learnlap
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5.1 negative consequences should be an opportunity to learn and grow, not be punitive.
#learnlap
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
I sometimes wonder if we thank Ss enough . . . .
#learnlap
In reply to @ChouinardJahant
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5: Always provide a clear warning before a consequence. Model what they should do.
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
I love your emphasis on balance, Adam!
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A4 unlimited freedom can also be paralyzing. Creativity comes from rubbing up to and finding ways around limitations
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
#learnlap
If the focus is on misbehavior rather than learning. "Don't sweat the small stuff" let Ss self-monitor is a way to prevent extreme
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
Q6 How can negative consequences, multiple warnings, and punishments be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
#LearnLAP
McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5: They still have a place but a very small one because they are part of the routine, consistent, & predictable. No surprises.
#LearnLAP
MikeSinde
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6. Negativity does not belong in the classroom. Ss need to know that school is a safe environment & that failure is accepted
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: at some point, must be a line. Continuous warnings wont bring about closure on a matter & the Ss see them as empty threats.
#LearnLAP
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A6 - We see this all the time. Neg behaviours = perceived lack of respect. Dignity stripped in order to re-establish order.
#LearnLAP
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A6.2: if Ts don't follow through on warnings/consequences, Ss realize that they are in control. Ss are observant to our actions.
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
Think about all the yelling of "you, you, you" that Ss here in their day to day and when we do it, it's supposed to be different?
#learnlap
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A6: When there are so many consequences, warning, etc. it just becomes white noise
#LearnLAP
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A5: We let natural consequences happen, looking to be more engaged in restorative practices. I often ask Ss: Check Yourself.
#learnlap
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A5 I hear u
@Terencewhite23
. Instead of using word "struggling" readers, I use "developing." We're all developing at something!
#learnlap
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A5: instead of using the word negative, I tell them about choices. When they make a bad choice, negative things will happen.
#LearnLAP
jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A6 Punishments can be negative when we suspend students. We can't teach them when they are not at school.
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A6: I've never had a student that ALWAYS did something negative. There is positive to find in everyone
#LearnLAP
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
Absolutely! Fortunately, the opposite is true as well!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PaulSolarz
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Q7 What are the pros and cons of doing things FOR your students?
#LearnLAP
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A6: When negative gets in the way of the relationships you have with your Ss they have gone too far. Community/relationships 1st.
#Learnlap
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
YES! Love this!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrWawczak
MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A6) negatives impact relationships in ways that inhibit learning
#learnlap
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A6 Over giving negative feedback can be counterproductive.Ss don't respond how it's given & it doesn't get the response you'd like.
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Agreed! It will perpetuate the problem- possibly evolve into a self-fulfilling prophecy?
#learnlap
In reply to @PaulSolarz
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A6 Agreed. Can Ss create that line? Give them the power to decide?
#learnlap
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A6: at some point, must be a line. Continuous warnings wont bring about closure on a matter & the Ss see them as empty threats.
#LearnLAP
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A6: Part 1: Too many consequences can make Ss dread coming to school. Ss need to feel success.
#learnlap
MrDurajWildcats
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
a6: s's will assume failure. The point is learning from mistakes and fixing the behavior
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#learnlap
A6 Ss misbehave b/c of boredom & lack of engagement- build rel & create Stu-cent activities can lessen off task behv
In reply to @RewardingEdu
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A5 Not sure. I've a hunch there's a better way to communicate, but today I gave warng's & consq & I have stewed over it all day :(
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Just popped in - amazing conversation!
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Redirection is as powerful as positive reinforcement. Lead with love!
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5: consequences r established parts of routine, predictable
#TLAC
, Redirection instead of warning - goal to get back to learning.
#LearnLAP
top_us_now
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
https://t.co/e8Dli5GXv4
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#NYRvsTBL
40.
#2017MMM
41.
#weareproudofjackandjack
42.
#QueerEl
43.
#MyRecipeForSuccess
44.
#LearnLAP
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
A7: Pro- it gets done the way you want it. Con- it's only done the way you want it-no Ss creativity. I learn TONS from my Ss work.
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Yes! they can with T input and mutual understanding of what the outcome needs to be for everyone's benefit.
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
A7: Con: Many including no creativity and reliance by the Ss. Pro: I guess one time can help give direction/example
#LearnLAP
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
A7: pro: it's models it for them. Con: it's not allowing them to fail and learn from their mistakes.
#growthmindset
#LearnLAP
specialtechie
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5: Consequences should be used to change behavior. Both + and - are needed at different times.Reflection makes it more effective.
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Right? How does sending students home solve the issue? Let's use that time to help Ss understand behavior and leanr alt skills
#learnlap
jasongriffinhgs
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A6 Punishments can be negative when we suspend students. We can't teach them when they are not at school.
#LearnLAP
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Q7: Ss do as much as possible for themselves and as classroom leaders. I am in charge of differentiating learning expereinces.
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A6: Pt2 Ex/Goal is remaining quiet during a lesson for an hour, but Ss cannot make it, praise each 15 min. they are calm/quiet.
#learnlap
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A7: Pro: Ss develop a trusting relationship & see you as a supporter of them. Con: Ss maybe develop a dependency on your support.
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A6 & some Ss will just keep going to see how many demerits, detentions they can get. Becomes a game
#LearnLap
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A6: When punishment causes a chain reaction- Ss reacts & gets more punishment- just drives a wedge in the T/Ss relationship.
#LearnLAP
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A1 It only works with the kids who are the rule followers, and sometimes those are ones who find it hard to think outside the box.
#learnlap
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A6 Not following through with consequences or being too authoritative causes more problems than you started with.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
k17m7mdsleman
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
#LearnLAP
Land of the Free
#kswx
#PlayersOnly
#oreillyfactor
https://t.co/okVdsvlOFe
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5: NO PLACE
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Absolutely. Sometimes a little difficult to find, but it's there
#LearnLAP
In reply to @arturo_calisto
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A7: Ss totally LOVE when I do things they like/interested in - sometimes they think that is all that matters then..still worth it!
#learnlap
trevorabryan
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Q7 Pro: Doing things for my students is a chance to model doing/thinking. Con: Student doesn't learn the process (yet).
#learnlap
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5: consequences/warnings need to fit the situation & age group ie) pushing on the playground =consequence; talk at test=warning
#learnlap
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A6 Voices are silenced and that is never good.
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
It's kind of sad when a student is surprised when you compliment him/her.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @arturo_calisto
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Q7: pros- students see that you care about them, are interested in seeing them do well, are invested in their success.
#LearnLAP
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A7: One of my all-time faves! Doing things FOR kids doesn't do them any favors. In fact, they learn helplessness; it can paralyze.
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
#LearnLAP
If Ts do not step away from "safe on the stage" & into docent at the museum Ss will be forced into a impersonal path- need freedom
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Q7 What are the pros and cons of doing things FOR your students?
#LearnLAP
rizzapiccio
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
This group is on fire! Quick paced and so many wonderful ideas
#LearnLAP
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7 a broad question. Creating a family w/in the classroom/school does allow some Give/get. It's also building relationships.
#LearnLAP
mrskodecrawford
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7: Pro: It gets done Con: Just like parenting - you have to let them fall so that Ss can learn
#LearnLAP
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A6: When you get to the point where you lose you student. We need to light their fire, not put it out.
#learnlap
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7 depends on lesson goal. I like Ss research, but I might find a source or database to remove that step for different learning
#learnlap
Ryan7Read
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Dash and Dot for Kinders |
https://t.co/qJTcZHMBUU
project by Mr. Read
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/tyAGn2xzlI
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A6 It's critical that we begin from a place of discovering what Ss can do and celebrating that. This builds relationships.
#LearnLAP
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7 The
#kidsdeserveit
! Ss and their parents will start to see you are there for the right reasons.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A2 Try to always be positive with praise for great answers and great questions!
#learnlap
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7: - Pro: They often appreciate it. It's helpful. Saves them time. - Con: Enables them. They could end up relying on you.
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Negative consequence does not hav to be "negative" in nature. Ts can provide boundaries w/o being negative.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MikeSinde
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7: will a child learn to tie his shoes if someone else always does it? Or better yet, only uses velcro and never gets laced shoes?
#learnlap
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
yes! I've been in that situation before- it's a no-win!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Yes. There is never usually just one way to do them. Often better ways to do it. Ss show me that a lot
#LearnLAP
In reply to @kristidonica
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7b: depends on the student but providing support and guidance goes further than actually DOING it for them
#learnlap
MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7: Doing things for Ss shouldn't be an option - shift the paradigm away from teacher centered towards Ss
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#LearnLAP
A7 My goal is to teach students to teach themselves science- discover, tinker, design, create their own activities
In reply to @RewardingEdu
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q8 What place do empathy, second chances, and support have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
But the students ARE in control.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @acottos
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
So true!
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A7: - Pro: They often appreciate it. It's helpful. Saves them time. - Con: Enables them. They could end up relying on you.
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A6 Discovering together. I never dreaded making a mistake in front of Ss. I owned it; we figured out how to fixed it & moved on
#learnlap
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A6 It's critical that we begin from a place of discovering what Ss can do and celebrating that. This builds relationships.
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A7: Pros: Some need the direct modeling and support. Cons: Learned dependency
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Thanks for your honesty. We have ALL been there!
#LearnLAP
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A5 Not sure. I've a hunch there's a better way to communicate, but today I gave warng's & consq & I have stewed over it all day :(
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q7.1: cons: Ss can become enabled, take less responsibility for their efforts,blame failure on others, expect support all the time.
#LearnLAP
Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
#learnlap
A7 Pro - model a routine, process etc, helps to guide , Con -dont do this often, they need to be indep, prob solve
In reply to @RewardingEdu
Ryan7Read
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Ryan from IL
#steam
teacher, doing crazy dissertation edits and ready for a little
#LearnLAP
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A5: Warnings or consequences must be fair and consistent, and I prefer redirecting too. Consequences need to be =to the offense.
#learnlap
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A7: Pro:They have a sense of your genuine care for them, to provide that intrinsic push.
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A7:Teach indep. as much as poss.No one is going to do it for them once they are grown/working. Don't enable learned helplessness.
#learnlap
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A7 (btw great questions) Becoming the "Helicopter teacher" is a con; building relationships based on an the individual is the pro.
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A7.
#learnlap
My Ss have labeled this as "learned helplessness."
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Teacher as facilitator!
#learnlap
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Q7: Ss do as much as possible for themselves and as classroom leaders. I am in charge of differentiating learning expereinces.
#learnlap
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8: In a community built on trust, everyone deserves empathy, support and multiple chances to get it right and fix mistakes.
#Learnlap
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A6:
#LearnLAP
Any time you are being "negative" you are counterproductive. It's impossible to take that away once it's out there.
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8: empathy shows that you care. No matter what choices Ss make, I will always tell them that I care about you and have your back!
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8: Empathy is one of the most important skills I try to teach my Ss at the beginning of the year. We ALL need to show it!
#WONDER
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q8 What place do empathy, second chances, and support have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A6: when consequences are "personal" and Ts are frustrated. A consequence should be equitable & predictable, not personal.
#learnlap
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A7.1: Con: Ss can develop an unrealistic expectation.
#learnlap
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A7: I preach during class how nobody is perfect and we learn from our mistakes. The same should go for behavior
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
#LearnLAP
I am all about chances, never a zero unless no attempt, if attempt I will always take work. Flexible grading. Respond not react.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q8 What place do empathy, second chances, and support have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8: Ss know I love them-no matter what! We all need second chances-I give lots of cool-offs/get a drink time when break is needed.
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8: If it's about MASTERY, we have to allow for revision & respect process. If you didn't get it done today, get it done tomorrow
#learnlap
MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
#learnlap
MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A7) some students need you to supply their tools ie. pencils in order for theme to get to the learning#learnlap
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8: it's a necessity. We need to support growth my having Ss learn from mistakes and building a desire to improve. Build on it!
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A8 I've been an advocate of restorative practices. I don't always live up to my own expectations but it is my class goal
#learnlap
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A8: They should be the norm- a constant. I would be disheartened, angry, sad, etc. not to see, feel, or hear them in a classroom.
#learnlap
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A6: The extreme can result in a S not caring anymore OR outright defiance as the norm.
#learnlap
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A7 Love this!
https://t.co/UOXTYE6gTa
We are a nation of tinkerers!
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#LearnLAP
A7 My goal is to teach students to teach themselves science- discover, tinker, design, create their own activities
In reply to @RewardingEdu
Chemteach201
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A8. All the place! How does anyone ever move forward without the chance to try things multiple times!
#learnlap
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A8: relationships come first, Ss know I care & am there to help/understand but expectations are high and effort needs to be shown
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A8: Ts must provide a safe & nurturing environment for Ss to thrive. Empathy is crutial.
#learnlap
Mr_Ullman
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Jordan, 5th grade T from Princeton, NJ jumping in here a little late...
#LearnLAP
McNulty1977
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A8: How can we encourage and celebrate risk if we don't provide second chances and support?
#LearnLAP
MrsShorr
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Just joining pros: Ss feel cared for, cons: Ss don't learn independence/ confidence to do things on their own, less S ownership
#learnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#LearnLAP
Empathy for all Ss b/c their lives are busy, often stressful & unsettled even chaotic, Listen & get to know them
In reply to @RewardingEdu
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A7 One of the best gifts we can give Ss is to step away & allow them to wrestle in the learning & begin to feel their independence
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
A8: I have an improvement-focused classroom, so all that we do is about 2nd chances! We focus on improving yesterday's work today!
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8: Even third and fourth chances. Can't always completely fix a mistake the first time. But do want improvement
#LearnLAP
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Good timing! Great chat tonight (as always)
#LearnLAP
In reply to @brandee_brandt, @RewardingEdu
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Ss that have negative leadership gain control. Positive leadership needs to be supported and in control.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrHExperience
mrskodecrawford
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8: All of these things must be in a classroom - The Ss have to know that Ts care
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Q8 What place do empathy, second chances, and support have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Raise your hand if you are diggin' this supercharged chat?
#LearnLAP
MsSaretsky
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8) huge! Most important! Second chance at learning are win win
#learnlap
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A6: sometimes this is all our Ss hear, we need to sing a different tune.
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8 a fundamental underpinning of RP is that we are a community and need to give & receive respect and dignity. Empathy a key piece
#learnlap
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8 These are the hallmarks of a responsive student-centred learning community.
#LearnLAP
Ryan7Read
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8: Many chances, we want to correct things on the second try, but it takes more and plenty of reflection to move forward.
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
With all of these questions I see it coming down to accountability. We all will meet the bar set for us (will it be high or low?)
#learnlap
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A7: only cons. Let them fly, if they bump into something, then they get up and fly again. Show them you believe in and trust them.
#LearnLAP
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A8: daily hug a sad little, earn back the recess, our theme is peace so empathy from little gets notice and praise
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A7 How do you combat that phrase?
#learnlap
In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
So many students have never felt that sense of a teacher advocate before!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @Terencewhite23
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Q9 How can empathy, second chances, and support be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
#LearnLAP
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Wouldn't we also want 2nd chances if we made a mistake? Our Ss deserve no less. Well put.
#learnlap
In reply to @JessieRErickson
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A8 We need to remember that Ss lives are not just contained to our classroom, there is much more to each child.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A8: Empathy is a must - Ss need to learn to recognize it and how to display it across daily experiences
#LearnLAP
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A8 I became a teacher to give support. Second chances are learning opportunities and vital for emotional growth.
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#LearnLAP
A8 I provide opportunities for Ss to talk through their issues w/ one another before I intervene. Self-monitoring.
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Absolutely. Have those expectations for the Ss as well as myself
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PaulSolarz
specialtechie
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A7: Empathy is SO important, S's feel that and need to have it as a model. I love the
@responsiveclass
for that to go along with
#LearnLAP
In reply to @responsiveclass
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A7 We have to show them it's okay to make mistakes; it's about the process and what we learn from it!
#learnlap
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A7: only cons. Let them fly, if they bump into something, then they get up and fly again. Show them you believe in and trust them.
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
one of my biggest Teacher AHA's was realizing that the teacher loses EVERY argument w a student. Even when they 'win'
#learnlap
In reply to @MrsReinagel
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A8 In everyday discussion and through demonstration, together we practice empathy and the power of 2nd chances---thank goodness!
SandraBaldwin18
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Schools weren't built for teachers. Q7
#LearnLap
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A8: It's all about balance. We have to show we care more than anything. Providing supports that allow for every s to find success.
#learnlap
MattPorricelli
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A8: Empathy is what connects us - if we are to truly flatten our walls we must learn to empathize with each other's experiences
#LearnLAP
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A8 I can't imagine a middle school classroom without empathy, 2nd chances, and support. It would be a recipe for disaster!
#learnlap
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A8:
#LearnLAP
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A8 So true! Can you imagine if none of us ever got second chances? I'm sure I wouldn't be a teacher!
#learnlap
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A8 I became a teacher to give support. Second chances are learning opportunities and vital for emotional growth.
#LearnLAP
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Yes, because Ss learn more and retain better by fixing their mistakes.
#learnlap
In reply to @PaulSolarz
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
and yet so many in our profession think it's a one time only deal
#learnlap
In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
#LearnLAP
There needs to be a discussion when Ss misbehave. They need to be given 2nd chance though. But w/ lack of management chaos ensues
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Q9 How can empathy, second chances, and support be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
#LearnLAP
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Yes! That's real world experience. You have to talk things out with others.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @ChouinardJahant, @RewardingEdu
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
@PegGrafwallner
This is a team effort ... Ps, Ts (all grades) Admin and Ss.
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A7 How do you combat that phrase?
#learnlap
In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A7: chance to model a new task or way of doing is a pro, dependency on T or refusing to try new things on own is a con
#LearnLAP
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A9: If it isn't teaching a skill that will help them in the future.
#lifeskills
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Ss are blown away when I apologize for a mistake or overreaction. Not a trait emphasized in most Teacher prep programs
#learnlap
In reply to @MrWawczak
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
A9: Still have to be consequences. Can't let Ss walk all over you- they need to learn from mistakes.
#LearnLAP
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
A6: Part 2: If a S receives multiple warnings to the extreme with no further consequence, then S has no incentive to change.
#learnlap
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Great point! High expectations (with support & guidance) leads Ss to success. Low expectations often leads to boredom & apathy.
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
With all of these questions I see it coming down to accountability. We all will meet the bar set for us (will it be high or low?)
#learnlap
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
A9: Second chances (or more) should still have some improvement. Cannot just ignore a negative thinking it will fix itself
#LearnLAP
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
it's a wall I'm willing to go against for the good of a student.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrSteinhauser
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
#LearnLAP
is trending, friends! Just sayin'
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
#LearnLAP
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
A9: when Ss see it as a systematic way of getting extra support. Have Ss learn to ask for help before their "second chance."
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
I make mistakes all the time & I don't feel good when others are rude about it. Key for me is to learn from them.
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
#learnlap
absolutely!
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
This chat has been fantastic!!!! I'm loving it.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @RewardingEdu
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
#preach
#learnlap
In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
I agree, though I've found setting expected deadlines (even if flexible) helps get to the mastery...
#learnlap
In reply to @MrSteinhauser
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A9: When the support enables students/creates dependency; when the second chance becomes the sixth chance w/o a teaching component
#learnlap
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A8: allowing Ss 2 relate 2 u & providing opps 2 instill growth mindset r critical 2 lasting relationships - lasting learning.
#LearnLAP
Terencewhite23
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
not at all!! It's powerful when teachers makes mistakes and students see it! Teachers are not perfect.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrPowley, @MrWawczak
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Same here. None of us are perfect. And so powerful when they see us doing it
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrPowley
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A8.1: it allows us a place to start conversations about differences and how not to jump to conclusions, get to know others.
#LearnLAP
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
I wouldn't have had success. It's a hard concept for some but so valuable for those that have those experiences.
#learnlap
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
What
@ewithers_gses
Elizabeth just said.....BOOM!
#learnlap
In reply to @ewithers_gses
ewithers_gses
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
Frame it differently. Environment and behavior impact, but don't dictate. Growth mindset. ❤
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @LemarrTreadwell
Mr_Ullman
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
That's what I was thinking...
#LearnLAP
In reply to @ERTOlson
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
This wrestling with learning is great, Margie. Struggle can be electrifying!
#learnlap
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A7 One of the best gifts we can give Ss is to step away & allow them to wrestle in the learning & begin to feel their independence
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A9: I guess when Ss don't take ownership for self-modification and improvement. Ss who own it and learn from it is the goal.
#Learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
#LearnLAP
Agreed Let Ss self-monitor rather than calling them out in class talk in a 1- min checkin they will be more likely to self correct
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A7 (btw great questions) Becoming the "Helicopter teacher" is a con; building relationships based on an the individual is the pro.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Q10 What are the pros and cons of doing things WITH your students: one-on-one, small group, whole class, etc.?
#LearnLAP
aniruel_ewoks
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Agreed! There has to be a learning component or teaching moment for our Ss!
#learnlap
In reply to @MrWawczak
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A9 Great question.Taken to the extreme lends itself to learned helplessness.Those 3 things need to be balanced with responsibility
#learnlap
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A9: when accountability is lost...has to be used to improve not as a crutch
#learnlap
Ryan7Read
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A10: Pros, amazing innovation and learning. Cons, dependency on you and not release.
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Isn't that so true! We know they can do it!
#learnlap
ewithers_gses
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
I've taught some of the most underserved...yet, seen the greatest success! I created new modeling and...
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @LemarrTreadwell
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A9 Rather than just having empathy, you enable Ss to make poor choices that they could handle better independently.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A10: you can model m
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Don't get me wrong, deadlines must exist bc that's life but like you said, some deadlines are more fluid than others.
#learnlap
In reply to @MrPowley
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A7: If the Ss aren't allowed (made in some cases) to do things for themselves, they will never fish for themselves and will starve.
#learnlap
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A9: Support (accomodations/AT/etc.) should aide Ss in demonstrating knowledge, but not do the skill for them.
#learnlap
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A7: pro - modeling opportunity, con - inhibits growth
#LearnLAP
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A9: can lead to attention seeking, neediness
#LearnLAP
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
Love this!
#learnlap
In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura
rizzapiccio
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
Sorry had to go ahead prepare for my class! Thanks for a grear chat and amazing ideas
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A9: "2nd chances" cannot be an "out" for 1st chances. Growth mindset must be cultural. Is it a comprehension or compliance issue?
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A9: if empathy sounds and/or feels like patronization, Ss will see it as false support and lose trust.
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
#LearnLAP
Pros- getting to know them- personal relationships but also provide lots of Independent learning activities- choice & voice
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Q10 What are the pros and cons of doing things WITH your students: one-on-one, small group, whole class, etc.?
#LearnLAP
John00motus
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
Bill defunding
@PPact
in process!
#ProLife
#DefundPP
https://t.co/PtEB4LAsse
#Florida
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#TheBachelor
#MuslimBan
#ReadTheBill
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PPact
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A10: PWe are here for the Ss and what we do should be for their learning an growth. We should question anything that isn't.
#Learnlap
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
I say this because it's males on the thread, but breaking the gender stereotype is also unexpected
#learnlap
In reply to @MrWawczak, @Terencewhite23
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: Pro-Lets Ts get to know Ss. Can see where they need help. Con- Ss have guidance- less independence & creativity.
#LearnLAP
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10 Students can get used to the constant collab and relying on others. There needs to be a balence of invidual and group/sm group
#learnlap
specialtechie
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: Can't think of cons except maybe not being able to plan too far ahead.The more they're involved, the more they get out of it!
#LearnLAP
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A8 Think of this quote whenever I see teachers greet their kiddos each day with a special handshake and a warm welcome
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: you can model mistakes and show how to grow from failing. Ss need to see the process of growth. Learn with your students.
#LearnLAP
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A9: Context plays a huge role.
#learnlap
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: pros: we model the expectation, help Ss practice, and then release them to take what they've learned and apply independently.
#LearnLAP
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: We are a role model for our Ss. We have the ability to set an example. Make a good one!
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#LearnLAP
A10 A combination of small group, collaborative groups, 1 on 1, whole class is best, keep style varied & engaging
In reply to @RewardingEdu
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: The best time to build student-teacher relationships is during unstructured moments (Bus rides, Field Trips, Recess, Lunch).
#LearnLAP
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
If we aren't doing what is best for students, then why are we doing it?
#learnlap
SandraBaldwin18
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Schools weren't built for teachers. Q7
#LearnLap
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
A10 Well, it's way more fun!
#learnlap
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
Thank you
@pearse_margie
! We all need this reminder!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @pearse_margie
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A8 Think of this quote whenever I see teachers greet their kiddos each day with a special handshake and a warm welcome
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
#learnlap
Going through a very deep learning curve right now.... Awesome challenge
ewithers_gses
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Humbled by you! You are education's best!
In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
Kids need guideline& guidance from a worthy adult leader, precisely so they can become increasingly more independent & responsible
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
#LearnLAP
There needs to be a discussion when Ss misbehave. They need to be given 2nd chance though. But w/ lack of management chaos ensues
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
Q9 How can empathy, second chances, and support be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
#LearnLAP
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
This is SO important. Ss learn from how Ts react to failure, as well as from what is directly taught.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @acottos
Rdene915
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
#learnlap
A8 need empathy, we build relatshps, connections and learn abt/from each other, be supportive
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
A10: giving Ss what they need at their level, sometimes a few Ss can take up all my time or they wait for my suggestions
#learnlap
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
A10: Pro: develop relationships, deeper knowledge of needs Con: with can be confused with for ...enabling helplessness
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
A10.1: cons- some Ss may see it as constraining, want to work independently w/o T assistance.
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
I support the fail forward concept too. That's why I say deadline rather than due date. Sounds more fluid...
#learnlap
In reply to @MrSteinhauser
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
A10 This is key- the modeling. We 'assume' our Ss have it already. It's up to us to show them w/ grace & respect
#LearnLAP
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: pros: we model the expectation, help Ss practice, and then release them to take what they've learned and apply independently.
#LearnLAP
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
A10: Doing it with them allows you to model, as well as assess where their misconceptions are originating.
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q11 What place do teacher-student or whole-class collaboration, interactions, and dialogue have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
@PegGrafwallner
#LearnLAP
What a chat! This is on fire tonight!
In reply to @RewardingEdu, @PegGrafwallner
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A8: we are a family, nothing would be possible without empathy and second chances!
#LearnLAP
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A10: P: Encourages a community-feel; we're all a part of this. C: Knowing when it's the right moment to release responsibility.
#learnlap
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
That's a major challenge in working collaboratively - Teaching students to contribute and not just coast.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
triciafreyes
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
#LearnLAP
A10 Interference. Sometimes it's better to let Ss talk--even if it goes off topic; let them get the convo to circle back around.
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
so many Ss have been taught that failure should never happen. We need to break that mentality by modeling it!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @kristidonica
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A10: Pros: You can model for gradual release. Cons: Your presence may shy some Ss from risk taking if proper rapport is not there.
#learnlap
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
My students all start with 0% so that their grade only reflects their growth and success not failure.
#learnlap
In reply to @MrPowley
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A10 I use to make lunch for Ss.I would invite 2/3 at a time and we would visit. You learn a lot about a S over homemade spaghetti!
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A10: The best time to build student-teacher relationships is during unstructured moments (Bus rides, Field Trips, Recess, Lunch).
#LearnLAP
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A11: Ss need to work together. They work in teams, pairs, whole group. Q&A w/each other. An important skill for school & future.
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
#learnlap
I use 1-min weekly checking to catch up w/ every stu, very little whole group disc- blended class- but lots of dialogue & debate
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q11 What place do teacher-student or whole-class collaboration, interactions, and dialogue have in your classroom?
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
Tough guy men don't ask for directions or forgiveness. I grew up in rural NY where that was expected.
#learnlap
In reply to @Terencewhite23, @MrWawczak
cherandpete
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
Make learning visible and empower student voice. 9 ideas for leveraging Twitter in the classroom!
https://t.co/KFT80FVwtZ
#learnlap
#COLchat
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
A11: All have their place. Important to change it up and use each of them throughout the day
#LearnLAP
Hahne_KingEle
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
YES! A lot of Ss, I've found, don't truly know how to converse within a group. It's a process.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrHExperience
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
A11 - Setting up for PARCC Testing this morning (5 adults in the room) My Ss were still leading things (or trying to)!
#GiveMeFive
#LearnLAP
MsShute
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
A11: Love collaborative opportunities! Ss can learn so much from each other and I learn so much from them! Balance is key
#learnlap
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
#learnlap
This really is the anatomy of good instruction. Being connected to help Ss through each phase.
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A8:
#LearnLAP
They are what makes my classroom happy and safe. Empathy is modeled daily. It's about learning, no matter how many it takes.
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Modelling might feel like you're asking Ss to copy, but by doing it you're building a safety net for risk taking!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrWawczak
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A11: it's the first step in learning. Give the support and show that the class is together. Then provide guidance for independence
#LearnLAP
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A11 as often as I can. Today the class and I developed a project. We brainstormed due dates, rules, and grading. This OUR project.
#learnlap
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Pro=Great exchange of ideas and interactions. Cons=Can end up with one group or S too long, shortchange others.
#learnlap
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
#learnlap
A11 I love lots of classroom discussions- Edcamp, debate and collaborative presentations, makerspace activities.
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
are you an XP or Level Up grader? I've been doing that for 3 years. Ss love it! Sounds similar if not exact
#learnlap
In reply to @MrSteinhauser
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Yes! It seems to blow their minds when they catch me make a math error on the board-just have to say oops and move on.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @acottos
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
If this chat is on fire, it's due to the AWESOME EDUCATORS w/ us tonight. Thanks for your leadership, love, laughter, & learning!
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
@PegGrafwallner
#LearnLAP
What a chat! This is on fire tonight!
In reply to @RewardingEdu, @PegGrafwallner
ERTOlson
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A11: They all have a place. Which one used is dependent on the function or goals of the learning and/or teaching.
#learnlap
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
Q12 How can teacher-student collaboration and dialogue be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
#LearnLAP
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A10: Pro=Great exchange of ideas and interactions. Cons=Can end up with one group or S too long, shortchange others.
#learnlap
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A11.2: after Ss independently learn, come back and reflect on their own process to share what worked and what didn't.
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A8 I always referred to my Ss as my "academic family." For some of them I was.
#learnlap
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
Yes, reflection is key.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @Ryan7Read
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A11: provide the fabric of the classroom, the rapport, the feeling tone that is what makes students feel cared for and connected.
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
Same message on "N is for NET" (a page in "P is for PIRATE") by
@burgess_shelley
&
@burgessdave
.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrHExperience, @MrWawczak, @burgess_shelley, @burgessdave
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
and the same to you my friend my mentor!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
I say "this is something new and we are going to learn together! We will make mistakes! Let's go!"...it's great!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @kristidonica
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A11: What makes the class go round. Discourse is much richer than listening to one voice all day. There is a place for everything.
#learnlap
MrWawczak
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A12: Every one of the Ss is an individual. Need to make time for all of them which can be difficult sometimes
#LearnLAP
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A11 I've flipped & gamified. Majority of my day is conferencing. Right now we are doing Indy study
https://t.co/8giUGRpRTc
#learnlap
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A12: Easy to turn to random discussion/1 leader doing all work. Ss still need to know how to work on their own & do their part.
#LearnLAP
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A12 I don't think it can. Looking forward to reading answers.
#learnlap
BarbaraGruener
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A10: My Ss love Counselor Cafe. I get to know them while we practice our table manners and just talk through lunch. It's the BEST!
#learnlap
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
Especially considering that the right moment is different for every learner!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @ERTOlson
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
I know I'm burnin' up!!
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
If this chat is on fire, it's due to the AWESOME EDUCATORS w/ us tonight. Thanks for your leadership, love, laughter, & learning!
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
@PegGrafwallner
#LearnLAP
What a chat! This is on fire tonight!
In reply to @RewardingEdu, @PegGrafwallner
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
If you've read "Learn Like a Pirate" & want to connect w/other Ts at your grade level, add your name here:
https://t.co/yqOsvPp2kv
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A12: Just because your talking doesn't mean they are learning. R you collaborating w/ the whole class or just the 5 most vocal?
#LearnLAP
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A11: We have Ss talk more than not. Process knowledge means learning. Ss should talk, argue, share, defend all the time.
#Learnlap
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A10: doing with builds trust, camaraderie, can learn together, make mistakes together. I eat lunch with my littles so we can chat
#LearnLAP
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A9: when unappreciated and Ss don't take accountability for actions
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
#LearnLAP
No pers 1-1 conv. Not getting to know your Ss is counter-prod. Only way to create a safe place for every stu is to know every stu
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
Q12 How can teacher-student collaboration and dialogue be taken to a counterproductive extreme?
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A11 Love this! Thank you
@MrRussoRH
!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrRussoRH
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
A11: provide the fabric of the classroom, the rapport, the feeling tone that is what makes students feel cared for and connected.
#LearnLAP
kristidonica
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Awesome! Great way for them to learn. Makes it easier to fail & learn when Ss know mistakes are expected.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @acottos
sdtitmas
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A11 I think T-S relationships should be collaboration. Everyone is learning from each other in different ways.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
#learnLAP
A11: Every S who comes back to visit ALWAYS talks about the moments when we laughed, played, made mistakes, acted silly - together
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Level Up! has been my mantra for a few years now. Just makes so much sense!
#LearnLAP
#growthmindset
In reply to @MrPowley, @MrSteinhauser
_AmandaFry
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A12: When guidelines have not been set. It needs to look like organized chaos. It's all about the balance!
#learnlap
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
Next week's
#LearnLAP
will be moderated by
@MrsReinagel
. Topic: "Using debate to inspire student inquiry." Hope everyone here can make it!
In reply to @MrsReinagel
MrSteinhauser
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
.
@MrPowley
Check out my post - Turn Your Classroom into a Game!
https://t.co/By2lQV3cMM
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrPowley
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A12: Ss become dependent on Ts. There are more positives than negatives...but be careful the negatives don't last long!
#LearnLAP
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A9:
#LearnLAP
You don't want them dependent on do overs. If they are owning their learning and invested they will consistently do their best
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
A11: Trick question ? This is my class. To prepare Ss for the world means they need to collab, discuss, etc.
#learnlap
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
A12: if collaboration doesn't include opportunities for independence then Ss won't see their fullest potential.Need to take risks!
#LearnLAP
JessieRErickson
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
A12: When Ss and/or Ts stop listening with their ears & hearts. Everyone deserves a voice, it is our job to role model listening.
#Learnlap
Ryan7Read
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
Have to do some quick things before
#tlap
chat. See everyone later.
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
"Learn Like a Pirate" turns 2 this month! Please consider it for spring/summer book studies in your schools! Bulk Rates available!
#LearnLAP
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
A11: they learn to work to achieve even if they aren't friends, team work sometimes = new views of a classmate which is positive
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A12
#LearnLAP
Nothing has more of an impact on lrng then a Tchr w/out compassion & interactive w/ their Ss. Isolation creates ambivalence.
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
A10: Cons - ? Pros - builds relationships, creates trust, allows for growth! TEACHES!!
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
1st pic is former S who dedicated 1st YA novel to me; 2nd pic are Ss frm 1st frshmn class.THIS is what it's all abt
#LearnLAP
In reply to @pearse_margie
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
Thank you
@Ryan7Read
! We appreciate you!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @Ryan7Read
Ryan7Read
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
Have to do some quick things before
#tlap
chat. See everyone later.
#LearnLAP
MrDataGuy
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Do pirates have a sense of humor? If so share it with us Tuesday. Join
#ATAssess
chatting "fun-ssesment" Free e-book given away
#LearnLAP
ChouinardJahant
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Thank you Robert
@RewardingEdu
and Peg
@PegGrafwallner
#LearnLAP
great chat! Wow! Refreshing & rewarding.
In reply to @RewardingEdu, @PegGrafwallner
MrPowley
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
awesome. Here's one of my posts based on a conversation I had with a student
https://t.co/EqnrMuzzUw
#learnlap
In reply to @MrSteinhauser
ShelfieTalk
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
A11 In literacy classroom, this would look like a conference- short, collaborative, 1-on-1, "What do you need as a learner?"
#LearnLAP
specialtechie
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Yes! I will be doing one. Where do we get bulk rate quotes?
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PaulSolarz, @RewardingEdu
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Agree, but All Time Bests are constantly beaten. Have to allow for new demonstrations of learning when possible.
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrsReinagel
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Thank you for another inspiring chat! Hugs to
@PegGrafwallner
for being a fantastic co-moderator and friend! See you next week at
#LearnLAP
algebrakamminga
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
https://t.co/83gMyh1x5H
#edchat
#games4ed
#mathscpdchat
#mathchat
#learnlap
#mathsconf9
#TLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
A12 Check out ASCD blog post:
https://t.co/kc4859M5k3
We know the value of silence!
#LearnLAP
srabrewer
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
A12: Just because your talking doesn't mean they are learning. R you collaborating w/ the whole class or just the 5 most vocal?
#LearnLAP
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Thanks and hugs to my fabulous co-moderator, Peg!
@PegGrafwallner
She continues to inspire me!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Two years already?!? Wow! Such a pivotal read for me!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PaulSolarz
acottos
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
What a fast paced, exciting chat! Thank you for your sharing and learning! Glad I stopped in tonight!
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Oh
@RewardingEdu
Robert! This was so much fun! I'm coming to LA!!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @RewardingEdu
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
Thanks and hugs to my fabulous co-moderator, Peg!
@PegGrafwallner
She continues to inspire me!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
@RewardingEdu
Thank you for tonight, I was late, but happy to chat through the last several questions. Great conversation
#LearnLAP
!!!
In reply to @RewardingEdu
pearse_margie
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
#learnLAP
A12 When the boundaries are blurred and the T'er/S relationship may look more like "friends"
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
AMAZING thx goes out to
@PegGrafwallner
&
@RewardingEdu
for moderating such a thought-provoking chat! You're always welcome back!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @RewardingEdu
ElginElgin3
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
A12: Dialogue can be counterproductive if Ts don't use adequate "wait time" before providing answers.
#learnlap
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Please join
#tlap
in 2 minutes for more great discussion!!!
#LearnLAP
MrsReinagel
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
A11:
#LearnLAP
They are how my classroom runs.
RewardingEdu
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Special thanks to my husband for making sure all the questions posted on schedule!
#LearnLAP
Kuglmee
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Thanks for a great chat everyone! Have a good night
#LearnLAP
daleyscience
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Off to
#tlap
!
#learnlap
MrHExperience
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Great chat tonight! Gotta run. Goodnight from 🇨🇦! Follow and I'll return the favour.
#LearnLAP
brandee_brandt
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
A11: all extremely important - balancing is key to success! Ss have to have meaningful conversations
#LearnLAP
SteinbrinkLaura
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
A12: Need to be a balance of methods, & Ss need independent practice. Too much collab could mean a S gets left out of learning .
#learnlap
burgessdave
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Join
#tlap
in 2 mins at 8CST to talk about teaching & leading for excellence w/
#StartRightNow
authors
@casas_jimmy
&
@Jeff_Zoul
#LearnLAP
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Before we wrap it up
#LearnLAP
friends, can
@RewardingEdu
& I get your feedback? What did you think of the pace?We knew it would be fast..
In reply to @RewardingEdu
MrRussoRH
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Thank you
@RewardingEdu
and
@PegGrafwallner
and
#LearnLAP
friends for a fantastic chat tonight! Have a a wonderful week!
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Thank you Jason! That truly means a lot to me!!! :)
#LearnLAP
In reply to @MrHExperience
LemarrTreadwell
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thank you
#learnlap
for the chat tonight. Have a great week everyone. Thank you for moderating
@RewardingEdu
you SLAYED it.
In reply to @RewardingEdu
PegGrafwallner
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
@PaulSolarz
You all know how we feel about you, my friend!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PaulSolarz
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
AMAZING thx goes out to
@PegGrafwallner
&
@RewardingEdu
for moderating such a thought-provoking chat! You're always welcome back!
#LearnLAP
In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @RewardingEdu
burgessdave
Mar 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thanks, Paul!
#LearnLAP
#tlap
In reply to @PaulSolarz