#wyoedchat Archive
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Monday October 30, 2017
8:30 PM EDT
PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Good evening and welcome to
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. My name is Brant and I will be you moderator as we discuss MTSS.
PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Please take a moment to introduce yourself and tell everyone what your favorite old school Halloween costume used to be.
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I’m Taylor! & idk what qualifies as an old school Halloween costume, but definitely any Disney theme like hocus pocus is my fave!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I am a Middle School Principal who used to love the classic ghost sheet costume, lol
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi Taylor. Welcome :)
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:34 PM EDT
You will be surprised at how quickly things become "old school" to you, lol
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Here we go :) q1. What is the purpose of MTSS?
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CarrieAnnTripp
Oct 30 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Carrie Tripp, assistant principal for most amazing MS Ss! I had an old school smurf costume: plastic smock & hard plastic mask.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Hi Carrie. Oh man, do I remember those old masks and the flimsy rubber bands, lol
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CarrieAnnTripp
Oct 30 @ 8:38 PM EDT
What does MTSS stand for?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Mutli-tiered System of Support.
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CarrieAnnTripp
Oct 30 @ 8:39 PM EDT
And the plastic digging in the side of your face?!?!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:39 PM EDT
I think I still have marks.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Question 2 in 2 minutes
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1) isn’t MTSS process of docm the performance of Ss as evidence for additional servs after making changes in CR instruction?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:40 PM EDT
It sounds like you have some experience with MTSS :)
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Let's dive in a bit deeper. q2. What are the critical components of MTSS?
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hoffmanteambret
Oct 30 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Brett from IA checking in. Dracula, definitely Dracula.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Hi Brett. Why doesn't that surprise me :)
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hoffmanteambret
Oct 30 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2 Data drives MTSS. Gotta be focused. Remember using some white ointment Dysitin maybe?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Googling is allowed in
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, lol
TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2) components consist of team driven shared leadership, evidence based practices, data based problem for improving outcomes!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Ah...You are ahead of the game with your answer, my friend. When you say "data driven" what do you mean?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:46 PM EDT
I like it. There is that data based theme again. What do you mean by that?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:47 PM EDT
a1. In our district, MTSS is a process for maximizing your resources in order to provide effective student support.
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hoffmanteambret
Oct 30 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Targeted..Specific in meet S needs based on real time assessment
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Ah...real time info. My fav!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:49 PM EDT
q3. How does MTSS differ for academics vs. behaviors?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:51 PM EDT
a2. The 4 MTSS components my district identifies are: Universal screener Data driven decisions Tiered support Progress monitoring
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3) it differs by including response to intervention & positive behavioral intervention/support for Ss. Does that make sense?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:54 PM EDT
It does indeed. PBIS is our Tier 1 behavior intervention, whereas many old RTI concepts make up the academic piece.
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hoffmanteambret
Oct 30 @ 8:54 PM EDT
We're pretty close what you do. We use our sec assessments as the screener to ID S needs. Often MTSS is another "touch" on skill
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Do you have a secondary screener you use for academics?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 8:57 PM EDT
We've already touched on this a bit but I'll ask anyway... q4. What role does data play in MTSS?
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4) I would say data is what is used to guide instruction!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Right! It can't be a heart check... "I feel" this student needs help. Let the data do the talking :)
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:02 PM EDT
a3. If done correctly, the structure for academic vs. behavioral support will be the same. Remember MTSS is just a framework.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:03 PM EDT
q5. What are your favorite screening tools? Academic or Behavioral
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:05 PM EDT
a5. An effective MTSS will include a universal screener & secondary screener to help id S in need of support.
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A5) does FAST: adaptive reading work?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:06 PM EDT
We are hopeful our new state assessment will become the universal screener as MAP is going by the wayside.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I would have to know more about that. Is it something you give to all Ss?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Let's switch gears to Tiered support. q6. How do you determine which Tier of support your students need?
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hoffmanteambret
Oct 30 @ 9:09 PM EDT
We give ass after each math section, and use this data. More targeted and recent than MAP or FAST. Although we look at those too.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Sounds like a great assessment. What grade levels does it cover?
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Mostly k-5!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Great Tier 1 strategy. How do you place your students into Tier 2 or 3 support?
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A6) whether they need intensive intervention, targeted or research based. Depending on your students response to the instruction
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Heading down the home stretch. q7. What are your most effective progress monitoring tools?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I agree. MTSS is also about being preventative. This is where the screeners can help flag these students before they fail.
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A7) Curriculum-Based Measurement in Reading (CBM-R) since I am going into English education!
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:16 PM EDT
a6. Our screeners id Ss before they step into the classroom. This helps us place them in the correct level of support early.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:17 PM EDT
this is good stuff. Gives you very good skill level data in real time :)
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Final question... a7. What other MTSS questions do you have? or What fantastic MTSS resources can you share?
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:20 PM EDT
One I had shared with me today was from the Center of RTI
https://t.co/fdHNVQhZNe
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A8) in your experience (anyone’s) have parents refused RTI/MTSS services for behavioral support??
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:22 PM EDT
We have some Ps who don't want their Ss in support classes. If they don't believe the data, we will let them opt out. Very rare.
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:23 PM EDT
To me if it helps my child I say go for it. That is strange
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Right?!!! That is why having the screening data is so critical. That takes the guesswork out of it.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I appreciate you hanging out with me on a lazy Monday evening. I hope you enjoyed tonight's
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See you next week :)
hoffmanteambret
Oct 30 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Ditto, P dont want kids IDed as SpecEd so refuse added services.
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PrincipalNyberg
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Oct 30 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yeah. It's a stigma thing don't you think?
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TaylorPoczynek
Oct 30 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Definitely is.
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