#sstlap Archive

Weekly chat 8CST that infuses the ideas of Teach Like a Pirate by Dave Burgess into the Social Studies classroom.
Thursday April 20, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • participatechat Apr 20 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #sstlap by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/AYOic0QbA2
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #sstlap thanks for joining tonight - a little different format - you have 2 choices of answers - but can elaborate
  • AJBianco Apr 20 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    GREAT IDEAS! Very cool! I'll be keeping an eye out tonight, but I can't fully participate. I will try to hop in after 9:30! #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining- Please intro yourself name local subject grade One thing you do that is good for students- more is okay #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    jump in to the conversation tonight - looking at is it better for the teacher or better for the student- #sstlap
  • book_techjunkie Apr 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Raquel K-5 Librarian Give them the freedom to create during library time. #sstlap
  • Ryan7Read Apr 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Ryan from IL #STEAM teacher manager of campus #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi #sstlap, this is Bill Chapman, a retired secondary social studies teacher, checking in from Berkeley, CA. I help Ss develop crit think sk
  • flipping_A_tchr Apr 20 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Andrew dropping in for a while to #sstlap (gr8 SocSt)
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    I have never popped in to #sstlap. I don't know why not! So I'm making tonight the night! 🇺🇸❤️
    • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      jump in to the conversation tonight - looking at is it better for the teacher or better for the student- #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Hi Andrew! #sstlap
    In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Chris from Bloomington, IN. Teach world history for private online HS. Hoping to do a bit of both #sstlap & #INeLearn tonight.
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    My name is Daniell and I am a senior attending Siena Heights majoring in Special Education #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Hi Chris! #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    great to see you as always- well at least most of the time #sstlap
    In reply to @book_techjunkie
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Joanne from MI, preservice teacher graduating in May, working as a long-term substitute in a HS setting as SED #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    guess I should fire up @TweetDeck #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Ryan- great to have you hanging with the crew as always #sstlap
    In reply to @Ryan7Read
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Daniell, welcome to #sstlap
    In reply to @Daniell622
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hey Bill- always a pleasure to connect with you #sstlap
    In reply to @classroomtools
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    graet to see you here tonight! #sstlap
    In reply to @Daniell622
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Joanne, welcome to #sstlap
    In reply to @JoanneDuford
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    great to have you with us #sstlap
    In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    glad tonight's the night #sstlap
    In reply to @runitrunnels
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Likewise, Ben. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    hey chris- so glad you are with us again and again- always happy to have you #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • JohnHRaby Apr 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    #IRS #sschat #sstlap #apgov #hsgovchat https://t.co/uNL1RHfZ4t
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Hey Joanne nice to see you too #sstlap
    In reply to @JoanneDuford
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    great to have young educators- great topic for young and old teachers tonight #sstlap
    In reply to @Daniell622
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    great to have preservice teachers here- thanks for joining #sstlap
    In reply to @JoanneDuford
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    First Q or topic in 1 minute #sstlap choose better for teacher or student
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Q1 - make your choice- is it better for students or teachers #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Move to CA. It is 3 hours earlier here. :) #sstlap
    In reply to @flipping_A_tchr
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    I'm a former 5th grade teacher in metro Atlanta turned full time 'Social Studies Whisperer" aka blogger, author, etc:) #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Hello, Tina here! #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1 Clearly Ts. MC tests require no thought, or at least no need to present evidence of thought. #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1) There are good MC questions out there that require higher level thinking but they are hard to write. Easier to grade for Ts. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    was always better for me - easy to grade- quick feedback- not really good measure of ss knowledge depth anyway-but can be formative #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1 If one needs to give MC tests, then s/he should require students to write justification for answer to each question. #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: teachers because it makes grading idiot-proof but not a true repres. of what sts know. You could totally guess on every ?#sstlap
  • flipping_A_tchr Apr 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1 neither really! Students don't really learn from them and tchrs must develop good distractor items -- what did kids really learn? #sstlap
  • Ryan7Read Apr 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1: I have used @kahoot Gforms and @quizizz so to me it was the quick feedback and assessment. #sstlap
  • book_techjunkie Apr 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1 Depends on what the goal of it is. Student quick understanding and able to eliminate wrong choices. Quick checks good for both #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1a) A benefit to Ss, such that it is, is that it gives them practice for state assessments. Ugh. #sstlap
  • EduGladiators Apr 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    🔥#EduGladiators is BACK this SATURDAY! Is failure a choice?🤔Don't miss convo! #moreedu #forsythchat #sstlap #ChristianEducators #G2great
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I suggested my gifted/divergent creative brains do that anyways because often their logic made sense so I counted their A right #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      A1 If one needs to give MC tests, then s/he should require students to write justification for answer to each question. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    good point- only thing I could find positive is quick formative check - but not summative measure of depth of knowledge #sstlap
    • flipping_A_tchr Apr 20 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      A1 neither really! Students don't really learn from them and tchrs must develop good distractor items -- what did kids really learn? #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I thought that with Common Core assessments, this was no longer true. #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I think there is more writing expected and allegedly deeper thinking required but there are still MC ?s. Open to being corrected. #sstlap
    In reply to @classroomtools
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I like the point of immediate feedback- that is true and your first point used correctly- #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    And it's a benefit for those kids that hate to write! #sstlap
    • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
      A1a) A benefit to Ss, such that it is, is that it gives them practice for state assessments. Ugh. #sstlap
  • flipping_A_tchr Apr 20 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    PARCC still has MC questions #sstlap
    In reply to @classroomtools, @CHitch94
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Q2 #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Uggh is right- where is the dislike button- sad but true we have to prepare students for that type of test #sstlap
    • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:13 PM EDT
      A1a) A benefit to Ss, such that it is, is that it gives them practice for state assessments. Ugh. #sstlap
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Travis Stricklin, a senior EDU student from Siena Heights joining! 😉 #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Matt from MO., 7th grade Am. Hist. jumping in late for a bit. #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2) More work for T but great for Ss. In real life, do you really only get one chance to "learn" something? #sstlap
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1-Personally feel that multiple choice tests are better for the teachers, not students. Especially when dealing with the bubbles! #sstlap
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: I say neither. I believe it is better for the Ss to apply their knowledge & to have choice on how to show.#sstlap
  • Ryan7Read Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: better for the Ss, they learn from their mistakes and grow as learners. #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Depends if used correctly.75% of the time easier for Ts when it comes to grading.But using an LMS, Ss like to see immediate feedback #sstlap
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A1- I think it's easier for both sides! It makes it easy for teachers but gives students more options which helps them #sstlap
  • book_techjunkie Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    So true! We get more then one chance. so why can't they? #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A1. Def. better for me for quick formative--did like more difficult M/C Q's when I taught dual credit. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2 - found it good for ss if I helped prep them ahead of time like any assessment we want them to do well. redos allow 4 reteaching #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A1)It depends on what will be covered on the test btw some people are not test takers so it can go both ways #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: Def students, more work for the T and I think sts should explain their thinking. 1 redo, not multiple until all have an A. #sstlap
  • flipping_A_tchr Apr 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2: good for both I think, perhaps better for the student to show more learning ... states allow multiple chances on driving tests! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    great to have you join tonight- looking at topics and debating better for T or S #sstlap
    In reply to @MrStricklin
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2-I'm a huge believer in second chances! When u give the student a chance to study more, they prove knowledge on a higher lever! #sstlap
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2- I believe that is better for students because it gives students a second chance and I believe in second chances! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    hey matt great to see you again #sstlap
    In reply to @TheShoe_CMS
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2 Definitely better for students, at least those who want to learn rather than get a grade, or have a ticket punched. #sstlap
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: I say both. Ss get to learn from mistakes, & Ts can reflect & reteach #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2. Think they benefit both. Is the point to show where they are? Great, mission accomplished. But, let them keep practicing #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Agree it is more work T so I would actually have them turn in early for feedback then final date for grading- eliminate many redos #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: also if it was the majority of the students on a particular assignment we know it's prob the task or the teaching....#sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Thanks, Ben. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Wonder if this has actually been carried through? When I was in OH, were supposedly transitioning to CCSS asmnts but still had MC. #sstlap
    In reply to @classroomtools
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Tough call! I continue to flip flop on this issue. If I feel reteaching or more in depth explanation is needed, I allow. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    good example- and you were given multiple chances to learn to swim, walk, and many other real life skills #sstlap
  • book_techjunkie Apr 20 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2 Better for the Ss who really need to show their growth. but def. more work for Ts #sstlap (ahaha first time I used wrong hash & sent)
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    yes I remember scantron tests- now we have Google Forms, otehr tech to auto score #sstlap
    In reply to @MrStricklin
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Q3 #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Good point. I think alternate assessments over the same skill/learning target helps. #sstlap
    In reply to @runitrunnels
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2 best for everyone. We all learn at different rates. Good for parents & Ss to see success. Good for Ts for differentiate. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Here are sample questions from Smarter Balanced tests. https://t.co/9afyTOFFUz #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • book_techjunkie Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Our tests still have some MC ?s. but there are also problem based questions and times they have to write #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94, @classroomtools
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    especially with ELLs #sstlap
    In reply to @TheShoe_CMS
  • Ryan7Read Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Have to leave early. Tyler needs to go bed. Night all. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    can be easier for ss than writing an essay, but does it demo real learning or important learning #sstlap
    In reply to @MrShindorf
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    It seems MC are a component, but not dominant. #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3 Both again! Ss learn from each other. Ts able to work with each group and offer better feedback. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    we have tools to do it quickly doesn't mean best practice- but if used for formative then can be best practice too #sstlap
    In reply to @runitrunnels, @MrStricklin
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3. Can be a nightmare or benefit for both. Have to be structured appropriately & Ss have to be taught proper roles/responsibilities #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Both. More for Ss. I just toured colleges 4 my son. Ss are in semester collaborative groups. Need to teach collaboration skills! #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3: students for sure-it gives them a chance to use talking for good not evil and to learn life skills! #sstlap
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Good point. Some kids HATE it. And their reasons are legit! #sstlap
    In reply to @TheShoe_CMS
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    agreed not all are test takers- is anyone? should anyone be good test taker or good at creating products- demo learning #sstlap
    In reply to @Daniell622
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Yes, think there are efforts to have less %age of assessments be MC ?s but still there. In IN, state tests being adjusted every yr. #sstlap
    In reply to @classroomtools
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3-Better for the students. Collaborative projects will prepare them for the real world and job force! #sstlap
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3: Both - Ts can gain much insight from observation & guiding groups, & Ss learn content & soft skills #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 It depends. Ss prob need a mix of both collaborative & individual projects/assignments. College & life & employment require both. #sstlap
  • book_techjunkie Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 Better for the Ss. Def. more work for both. #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I think there should be more than one way of testing some ones abilities #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3- I think group projects make it easier for the teacher but collaborative projects help prepare the students for the future! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3 like many things depends on situation- if groups structured well become collaborative- for Ts harder to assess indiv knowledge #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Q4 #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    YES! Ts have to watch out for the slackers who mooch off everyone else-or the bossy mini me's who don't let anyone do anything #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A3 It depends. Ss prob need a mix of both collaborative & individual projects/assignments. College & life & employment require both. #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Tyler from MI joining late (writing sub plans 🙃) APUSH, WHAP, Teacher Ed. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    yes- good points about rates of learning and differentiation-- so true #sstlap
    • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      A2 best for everyone. We all learn at different rates. Good for parents & Ss to see success. Good for Ts for differentiate. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    thanks for joining- have a great night #sstlap
    In reply to @Ryan7Read
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A4. Public speaking is an under-practiced skill, but it's tough. Can be too passive. I prefer small group presentations #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3: Mixture of both, allows for performance grading (TS) and collaboration/communication, and team work (ss) #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Seeing so many great points- and yes these aren't absolute T or S - so great points of view tonight #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A4) Great opportunities for Ss to develop communication skills but have to teach GOOD communication skills. #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A2)Student redos should be acceptable because some students may have had a bad day and that can throw students off #sstlap
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A4 I struggle with this 1. It's better for the presenter, not necessarily for the Ss watching. Rarely are S presentations engaging #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    yes so much of life is working together- sharing responsibilities- why aren't we working on more life skills than content #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Both. But, learned gallery walks from Student teacher. I like that method better. More Ss are engaged. #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A4) The ESOL-certified me says Ts not kiddos. I think gallery walk type presentations are better. Or short book talks #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I agree. But, that's not a standard, learning target, or whatever that every district has. Tough to fit in the schedule. #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4: Ss, though it creates elevated anxiety, it does prep for the next level! A reason I took seniors to a collegiate version #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    yes- front of class - like 3 days worth of presentations #sstlap
    • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      Do you mean where kids stand up 1 at a time and present something?
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4-Public speaking is HUGELY underpracticed. We must prepare our Ss for further EDU and the real world. #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4: I know speaking and listening standards are impt but I think you should vary your pres. types #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Right but it is often cited as common set of skills that employers want. Asked HS Ss what made good pres. Got them thinking. #sstlap
    In reply to @TheShoe_CMS
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    I had ss create screen casts or voice over of their presentations then ss audience watch a few examples to then synthesize/do task #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A3)Group work is best for both it shows teachers which students may need more help or understanding of a topic and students will be #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Q5 #sstlap
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    A4- again I think this is easier for the teacher but I feel this is worse for the student! It is more stressful for the student! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    yes was at a meeting tonight and discussing alternative assessments- students perform, create, draw, etc. to show mastery #sstlap
    • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      I think there should be more than one way of testing some ones abilities #sstlap
      In reply to @Braz74
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    For sure, I'm with you. These are skills that should be in every class, every year. It takes a village, and all that. #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    hey Tyler- great to see you as always #sstlap
    In reply to @SHUedtech
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4: Both on a limited basis. Ss need to learn presentation skills & share a passion Ts can learn from their Ss. #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A5) Depends on what purpose is. If S needs reinforcement & HW directly targeted to that skill & S has ability to do it, has value. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    It depends. If topic is engaging enough, student presentations can be riveting. In this class, all were. #sstlap https://t.co/6NvB2hsXBB
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A3 continue) Students will be able to see how their peers views are different from theirs and also be able to gain new information #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5a) If just busywork, then not good for T or S. #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5. Too much depends on the Ss, the content, timing. NO BUSYWORK! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    not against public speaking but short presentations- 1-2 min - can also be topics they are experts, interested if about speak skill #sstlap
    • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      A4. Public speaking is an under-practiced skill, but it's tough. Can be too passive. I prefer small group presentations #sstlap
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5 better for no one in too many cases. Still too many Ts w/ busy work. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5 Again, it depends on the assignment. Homework does not need to be make work. Some things are best done out of class. #sstlap
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5-Gutsy subject, better for both? Beneficial for both I believe, serves as a great measuring stick! #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5: If it is meaningful and relevant and within reason then Ss bc they do need extra practice on some things, Math more so than SS #sstlap
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5 But... if it is the right assignment that Ss are excited about, it can be great for both. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    yes- but set them up for success- short, important topics that ss can be good at - do more frequent and this builds skill #sstlap
    • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      A4-Public speaking is HUGELY underpracticed. We must prepare our Ss for further EDU and the real world. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    But it doesn't have to be busy work. Lots of flipped class assignments are terrific and definitely not time wasters. #sstlap
    In reply to @cheffernan75
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    What is being measured with it? Not being snarky, just curious. I feel that some HW does have value. #sstlap
    In reply to @MrStricklin
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Agreed- worksheets- read and answer questions - not beneficial- workign beyond class to complete valuable task is different story #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    We are concluding biography projects on the people of WWII, individual presentations, stressful, but worth it. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Indeed. If something can be done out of class, then it frees up class time for things that can't be done out of class. #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94, @MrStricklin
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A5 I think reading is the best HW and for sure there are a bazilliuon ways to integrate SS into literacy #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A5)Both!it shows teachers what students are learning and struggling in& for students this shows what they have learned or gained #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Q6 #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A5: No one. Busy work is the student perception, not an accurate measure of comprehension for the teacher #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Homework has been wkst and reading. then NOOOOO! If it is opp for ss to work on project beyond school-can be beneficial- ss videos #sstlap
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A5: Neither - more opportunities to practice wrong or busy work, & more for Ts to grade #sstlap
  • cheffernan75 Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I think that this post from @burgessdave is perfect. https://t.co/gOq4p9TtA9 #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Too bad almost all sports teams do... #sstlap
    In reply to @runitrunnels, @MrShindorf
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    This would be great I wish they did this for college #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A6 As long as both T and S understand them, rubrics are valuable for both. #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A6: They help students know what is expected and make grading more consistent and hopefully less subjective #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Homework needs purpose & meaning. Too many Ss don't get the work done. Extra curriculars take up the evening hours.Used as an excuse #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A6. Both. Eases subjectivity for Ts & lets Ss know expectations. Not a fan of rubrics for everything. Let Ss have voice & freedom. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    agreed- when Ss is interested in topic they can amaze- if about boring topic they will create somethings craptastic #sstlap
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A6: Both. Ts & Ss both have clear expectations of the assignment #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    I agree, if it is a part of something greater = good. Worksheets = pointless. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    especially us ADHD tribe members #sstlap
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A5- honestly I can see this benefiting both parties here! As long as the homework is productive and meaningful!#sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    yes- busywork sucks- we resent it as Ts- why punish our ss who we are supposed to protect and guide #sstlap
    • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      A5. Too much depends on the Ss, the content, timing. NO BUSYWORK! #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    and who wants to grade it? nobody! ends up in file 13 most of the time...I don't miss grading one bit. #sstlap
    • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      yes- busywork sucks- we resent it as Ts- why punish our ss who we are supposed to protect and guide #sstlap
      • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:36 PM EDT
        A5. Too much depends on the Ss, the content, timing. NO BUSYWORK! #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A6: BOTH. Easy to asses (T) easy to follow and understand the process for the student. #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A6)Both again! Students will know what to look forward too and watch out for also this helps teachers stay on schedule and due dates #sstlap
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A6-Better for the students, easier to follow specified requirements. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    yes so agree- flipping and other examples demo good ways to extend real learning #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:38 PM EDT
      But it doesn't have to be busy work. Lots of flipped class assignments are terrific and definitely not time wasters. #sstlap
      In reply to @cheffernan75
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    Q7 #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A6: honestly I only used rubrics on projects or writing pieces for LA...not every assignment or for INB's #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I think of assignments I gave where students had to interview parents or others on some topic. Not possible to do this in class. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A6: continued, it is how we are evaluated, so Ts need to become comfy with them. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A6 rubrics I struggled with making good ones- but found it good for ss to know what is expected so they can be successful- #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    I think every teacher should run their classroom how they see fit and if you want to give HW so be it. If not that's cool, too #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Both. A guideline for teachers to evaluate Ss work accurately. A roadmap for Ss when working on & designing projects. #sstlap
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A7- I think giving students choice creates better results on work bc it gives students the opportunity to express themselves!#sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    completely agree! lots of examples of activities that go beyond classroom- not worksheets #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      I think of assignments I gave where students had to interview parents or others on some topic. Not possible to do this in class. #sstlap
      In reply to @Braz74
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A7-Better for both. As the teacher you gain trust, as the student you have the freedom to explore new learning! #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A7. I provide variety of assignments early in year & open to Ss choice mid-end of year. They know main things expected. #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A7) Giving Ss choice can be chaotic for Ts BUT usually worth it as Ss feel more empowered and enthusiastic about learning. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A7 Definitely student choice in most cases. In some situations, demonstrating same skill with varying content may be best. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    I would love to see this in college coursework so young edu have these tough convos before they get into classrooms #sstlap
    In reply to @Daniell622
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A7: UDL & Danielson preach choice, besides, with guidance students will always care more about a topic they choose. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A7 Here is a lesson where students did same task, but with different starting data. https://t.co/Z2Jm8DApnX #sstlap
  • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Agreed 100%. Allows for amplified passion and creativity too. #sstlap
    In reply to @MrShindorf
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A7: Ideally student choice or differentiated bc it's better to be all Montessori-ish but that's not feasible all the time #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    great point- both need to understand as T must know what they want and make clear to S #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:40 PM EDT
      A6 As long as both T and S understand them, rubrics are valuable for both. #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Both. Love looking at a variety of different projects. Engaging for Ss and provides them choice. #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A7: all my projects were choice boards or similar things but every task snuck in literacy somehow #sstlap
  • Daniell622 Apr 20 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A7)Students should be able to decide the way they would like to present their work b/c they know what is best for them (MAYBE) #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A7 follow up rubric with lot of choices- can be tough for T to evaluate. But Ss can demo knowledge in ay connects to them #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    I agree too, so imagine how shocked I was the summer I worked evaluating great learning materials for https://t.co/EsApRV8fWc ...#sstlap 1/2
    In reply to @Braz74
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    2/2 ... to find out that most Ts who bought materials, bought worksheet masters. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    YES- ss show personality- interest- abilities- not all test takers or essay writers, but some create songs, skits, art, etc. #sstlap
    • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
      A7- I think giving students choice creates better results on work bc it gives students the opportunity to express themselves!#sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    I had some kids who pretty much did nothing all year but they did the projects bc they had creative choices! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    yes can be as difficult to have rubric for all choices but so great for students- yes empowerment #sstlap
    • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:47 PM EDT
      A7) Giving Ss choice can be chaotic for Ts BUT usually worth it as Ss feel more empowered and enthusiastic about learning. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Q8 #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    yes love the UDL reference- use that in my college courses- was part of our meeting tonight #sstlap choice and differentiation
    • SHUedtech Apr 20 @ 9:48 PM EDT
      A7: UDL & Danielson preach choice, besides, with guidance students will always care more about a topic they choose. #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A8) Think video has a place but shouldn't be sole source of information. Ss like video but need to expl content in other ways, also. #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A8 Completely depends on the video, & how the teacher frames/introduces it. Setup properly, they can be fantastic. Otherwise, not so #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A8: Well depends on if it's a lazy cop out or a legit good relevant video...better for the T for sure..great for sub plans #sstlap
  • TheShoe_CMS Apr 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A8. Short, engaging, high-quality clips is what I show middle school. Never a full video--never been a fan. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    can't wait for the responses from social studies teachers on showing videos -- lol #sstlap
  • TNording Apr 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Short quick videos. I use a lot of interactive videos like @playposit. Although some longer videos have an engaging purpose for Ss. #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A8: I think short clips like @Flocabulary or @MrBettsClass are good for students!! Those are awesome lesson hooks! #sstlap
  • MrShindorf Apr 20 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A8- better for the teacher unless there is questions following along with it or some way of keeping up with the video! #sstlap
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A7: part 1 better for Ts (easier to grade), part 2 better for both (Ss more invested bc of choice/less fight for Ts to obtain work) #sstlap
  • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A8-Todays day in age ss will either sleep or be on their cell phones during videos. No matter the content, Ss will b distracted #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A8 Before showing 12 Angry Men, I had students do this sim. https://t.co/Y9yh54uvD0 They were riveted during the film. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A8 started career showing whole movies catch up. Then show parts, talk- be mindful of most important points #sstlap
  • runitrunnels Apr 20 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Well you have to give them something to hold them accountable or offer a prize for a mystery ? and they will pay attn. #sstlap
    • MrStricklin Apr 20 @ 9:57 PM EDT
      A8-Todays day in age ss will either sleep or be on their cell phones during videos. No matter the content, Ss will b distracted #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    always awesome stuff you share!! #sstlap
  • Mrneilhistory Apr 20 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Yes. Some of the most meaningful, important, and authentic lessons involve some outside of class work. #sstlap @classroomtools @Braz74
    • classroomtools Apr 20 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      I think of assignments I gave where students had to interview parents or others on some topic. Not possible to do this in class. #sstlap
      In reply to @Braz74
  • CHitch94 Apr 20 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Maybe. I use @EDpuzzle so there are pause points built in w/ questions or additional info to provide context. #sstlap
    In reply to @MrStricklin, @EDpuzzle
  • JoanneDuford Apr 20 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A8: Generally neither, but depends on the movie & how it is done. Ss & Ts lose out on learning time #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 20 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    showed gladiators story- BBC then clips of Gladiator had ss compare hollywood to reality #sstlap