#DevDiscuss Archive

Tuesday October 10, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Time for #DevDiscuss👩‍💻👨🏼‍💻 Tonight's topic is CS vs "NON-TRADITIONAL" Let's talk about the different paths in software development 🤔🤔🤔
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Rules: - Stay on topic - ALWAYS ALWAYS use hashtag #DevDiscuss - Be NICE/POSITIVE ❤️ - Quoting tweets for clarity is encouraged
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A CS degree for a programmer is as useful as an English degree for a writer. Useful, but not necessary in most cases #DevDiscuss
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    I’m confused, is this about branch prediction?? #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    CS degrees help you a lot during the first 5 years of your career. Past that, experience becomes more important #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • LuishXY Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    @ProductHunt was founded by a non-technical person. Goes to show technical or not you can make an impact in the industry. #devdiscuss
  • kevdog Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    The true benefit to traditional at entry-level is time at the keyboard. That’s what boot camps can’t replicate. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • SQLanodyne Oct 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    As far as non -CS degrees go, I think math is the most useful/ applicable. Problem solving! #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss👩‍💻👨🏼‍💻 Tonight's topic is CS vs "NON-TRADITIONAL" Let's talk about the different paths in software development 🤔🤔🤔
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    For what it’s worth, I know hundreds of people who took hundreds of paths. I haven’t seen any commonality to proficiency. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • a_mammay Oct 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    i would be "Non traditional to a point", never had a class on compilers, operating systems, and only had 3 weeks dedicated to algorithms and data structures. Most of my learning was from being thrown into something and adapting. Anybody else in the same boat? #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Self-taught developers have to learn the hard way what CS students know inside-out. I don’t want a self-taught surgeon, either. #DevDiscuss
  • courtneyxann Oct 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    I know a surprisingly high number of Literature majors who are now developers. I was actually a digital art major, turned FED. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • mrxinu Oct 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    This. Exactly. There's so many different blends around that are successful this almost makes no sense. #DevDiscuss
    • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      For what it’s worth, I know hundreds of people who took hundreds of paths. I haven’t seen any commonality to proficiency. #DevDiscuss
      • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
        How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    I took the CS route. For me it gave me more foundational knowledge to understand lower level things. That is the main diff. IMO. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    I took the path of coding 6-12 hours a day before, during and after HS and college (I went to a special CS HS and a CS college) #DevDiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Those hungry to learn lower level things can quickly pick them up. I have seen CS majors that can out CS me anyday. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    I took CS and related, but I feel 3 weeks in my co-op doing real work was worth more than years of college. Everyone varies. #DevDiscuss
  • Dave_Cochran Oct 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Eh... Not everyone is the next Notch, or Gates, or Jobs. Lots of us need that degree to get our foot in the door somewhere. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @lpasqualis, @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Long story short. I don't believe a CS degree predicts future success. Hunger to learn, passion, and down right grit are better. #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    There's a lot of 💸💸💸💸💸 in education and the conversation around this topic is often heavily influenced by the interests at play. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    I’ve seen the programs in CS dramatically differ. A 400 level at one school is 100 level at another. It’s just so non-standard. #DevDiscuss
  • plustssn Oct 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    M.S. in Meteorology, CS minor in undergrad. But hobby coding since high school. Now I do scientific software development. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A few years after college, there is absolutely no correlation between degree and coding proficiency #DevDiscuss
  • sadukie Oct 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    My Bachelor of Science degree is in Computer Science & Engineering Technology. I now lead the Online program at @softwareguild #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @softwareguild
  • photoryanw Oct 10 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    CS path @UUtah is based in theory versus learn a specific language. 'Just Another Language' is beneficial for future learning #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    This. I walked out with a CS degree, but was it money well spent? Ehhhh, no. #DevDiscuss
    • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      There's a lot of 💸💸💸💸💸 in education and the conversation around this topic is often heavily influenced by the interests at play. #DevDiscuss
      • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
        How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • sadukie Oct 10 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I only got the degree to feel legit in the field. Now, I graduate people with skills and experiences I wish I had as a jr dev. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • SaraChicaD Oct 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I was a NEWSPAPER reporter! Most of the journalists I know are either now in PR or tech -- a logical evolution of the field #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jmdembe Oct 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I tried CS, left that and changed my major 3 times. Got my degree in public health. Now I'm a front end developer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • KPath001 Oct 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I did computer engineering in college and still value non CS devs cause any perspective is beneficial and useful in this field #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • MrThomasRayner Oct 10 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Btwn CS progs there's inconsistency. I grad'd with tons of hands on exp, but peers from other progs never wrote a line of code. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I think either way diversity of educational paths is a major benefit for a dev team #devdiscuss
  • lilymercy Oct 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    The traditional route will teach a developer fundamental concept of computer science than the non-traditional route. #devdiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Technology evolves so quickly that most of the stuff you learn on your first day of college could be old on your last #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Same for me. I took a few CS classes but changed directions, then found my way back to code. #DevDiscuss
    • jmdembe Oct 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      I tried CS, left that and changed my major 3 times. Got my degree in public health. Now I'm a front end developer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #devdiscuss
      • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
        How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Oct 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    My public health degree helps me to think of features from a users perspective. So yes, non-traditional #DevDiscuss
  • KPath001 Oct 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Diversity brings different experiences and perspectives which is essential for problem solving in my opinion #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • jepedesu Oct 10 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    I went from CS to Psychology then applied for a part-time web developer job. Now I'm a full-time web and mobile developer. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • SQLanodyne Oct 10 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A math degree is also based in a lot of theory. Set theory though! Incredibly relevant for SQL #DevDiscuss
    • photoryanw Oct 10 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      CS path @UUtah is based in theory versus learn a specific language. 'Just Another Language' is beneficial for future learning #DevDiscuss
      • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
        How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    What is important is to learn how to learn quickly, resolve lots of problems and improve everyday by writing difficult code #DevDiscuss
  • dmysticd Oct 10 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    I was a chemist. Now I build systems to help scientists better manage their data and lab workflows #DevDiscuss @genentech
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @genentech
  • jmdembe Oct 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I think the CS degree would have helped me get in the door faster at a higher salary. Or maybe some problem solving? Who knows. #devdiscuss
  • daveaglick Oct 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Especially in graduate courses, I found the material to be heavily academically oriented with a large disconnect between it and what was going on in the "real world." #DevDiscuss
  • CadellSinghh Oct 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Started off the non traditional route teaching myself how to code... but now I’m back in school on the SE route #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • HIM_88 Oct 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I did the traditional CS degree, but have worked with and hired very brilliant people without the degree w no drop in skillset #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    How would you approach your differently if you had to do it over again? #devdiscuss
  • billperegoy Oct 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I got a EE degree, did chip design for years before finally transitioning to SW fairly recently. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • billperegoy Oct 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    I personally think the diversity we are getting from so many folks with a non-traditional backgrounds is a great thing. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • reverentgeek Oct 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    The most valuable ingredient to a successful career in software development, & I suspect most careers, is the love of learning. #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    StackOverlow can be the single worst thing a budding developer uses. Solve headache-inducing problems, don’t look up solutions. #DevDiscuss
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    I’d have saved a lot of money learning for 50 bucks on the Internet what costs tens of thousands and years at a college. #DevDiscuss
  • sadukie Oct 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    If I had to do it again, I'd trust my natural talents/inclinations, show people capabilities, and go through a bootcamp. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    The only thing I would change is the school I went to. Not all CS progs. are the same and there are far better ones out there. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • piq9117 Oct 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Everyone of us has taken a different path but in the end were just trying to figure out why undefined is not a function. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • daveaglick Oct 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    I'm excited to see the rise of trade schools, boot camps, and other practically-oriented training programs as both a more focused education path and as a better opportunity equalizer. #DevDiscuss
  • sadukie Oct 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    That "if I did it again" assumes young, childless days, no reputation yet, and reputable bootcamps (like those in CIRR) around #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    You know you are growing as a coder when you wake up in the middle of the night with the solution to a difficult coding problem #DevDiscuss
  • KPath001 Oct 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Put more emphasis on building projects and working with communities to solve problems #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • amanda_machina Oct 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Began a formal CS education after teaching myself to code. Changed to CE to learn the low level stuff. Work as a full time dev. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bruno_dsm Oct 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    I graduated from a system analysis course, which was presented as “course designed for the market”. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • plustssn Oct 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Domain knowledge is absolutely essential for the kind of development I want to do, so this has worked out pretty well for me. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • courtneyxann Oct 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    I don't know if I would change my path at the time. But I did learn more about development in my free time than in CS classes. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • joshbegleiter Oct 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    I'd ruthlessly prioritize my learning using this 2x2 from HBR: https://t.co/j7iPdv7F1D #DevDiscuss
  • courtneyxann Oct 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Now, I would probably just go to a code school of some sort. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • billperegoy Oct 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    I’d definitely spend more time on non-tech learning. Having a more well-rounded education would have made me a better engineer. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Also, I’d have helped classmates more. I didn’t learn anything from classes, but others could have learned more had I offered. #DevDiscuss
  • KvnDy Oct 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    CS may solve every problem but how and where those solutions are applied is still up for interpretation, will never be finished. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    How would you approach your *education* differently if you had to do it over again? #Devdiscuss
  • natersoz Oct 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss 1983: BSEE RF Hardware 1990: ASIC design 1992: MPEG drivers 1998: Network delivery 2004: Mobile 2008: Medical Today: RF Embedded
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • gdarruda Oct 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Just change the order: start developing “real things” and after understanding the CS behind. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bruno_dsm Oct 10 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Which means that I haven’t explored that much algorithms in college than one who choose the cs path. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • sadukie Oct 10 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I had similar results. My internships were more enlightening, more practical than what I learned in the classroom. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @Nick_Craver
  • jessemenn Oct 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I would have done more literature classes. Another assembler, or a compiler or database class. Bet would have been useful. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Ben_Doane Oct 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    My degree in Landscape Architecture had nothing close to CS. The problem solving methods of thinking led me to becoming a dev #devdiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Late to the #DevDiscuss party!
  • Naer_ Oct 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I tried CS, left it and join the army for 4 years. Then I studied 2 years of network management and now I'm a backend developer #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Software companies eventually will start asking interview questions to show what you can do, not what you remember from school #DevDiscuss
  • mrskellyvaughn Oct 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Not go to grad school. I have two master's degrees in public health and social work. $55,000 for some paper in frames that are currently on the floor of my office. #devdiscuss
  • qmalvido Oct 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    I would have been an ME Major instead of a EE. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Find what you love. Try a thousand things to do so. Learn more about it, often for free. If you still love it, try for a job. #DevDiscuss
  • cjmarra716 Oct 10 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Spend more time talking to the professors. Didn't take advantage of them/their experience as a resource vs course materials #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nick_Craver Oct 10 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    I wish someone would have told me computer science is about solving problems, *possibly* involving code. Not about writing code. #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I would have focused more on web technologies earlier on #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I'd have, whenever possible, taken whatever classes seemed interesting no matter how they might affect my career. #DevDiscuss
  • MrThomasRayner Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    #DevDiscuss Wouldn't change a thing. Great networking, got jobs b/c my prog had a good rep in industry & community. Totally worth it. @NAIT
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @NAIT
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    In the future CS will become “software engineering” where you’ll REALLY learn to produce software as part of a team #DevDiscuss
  • mrskellyvaughn Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I always feel a bit bad when students interview me about my career and thoughts on going to college for web dev. Attending college has so many benefits, but you really don't need a degree to succeed as a developer. #devdiscuss
  • theaccordance Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Self-taught & lots of pro-bono to build cred. Today I lead an app development team & my code can be found on 100m+ devices #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I would just start doing. I have learned now that the best way to start learning is by actually working on something. #devdiscuss
  • beccimelson Oct 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I have a Marketing degree (and imposter syndrome). I worked FT through college and CS felt unattainable at the time #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jmdembe Oct 10 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Probably I would minor in CS or engineering until I remember that I am awful at calculus and other math-adjacent subjects 🙃 #DevDiscuss
  • TheGrimHEEP Oct 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I was in logistics as a fleet manager. I am now an iOS developer that got here via a coding boot camp here in Seattle. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I couldn’t have learned what i learned from college — skills and actual grounded science — spending 50 bucks online #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @Nick_Craver, @ThePracticalDev
  • mrjabbott Oct 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I wouldn’t change many of my courses, but I would approach all of them with an academic curiosity I lacked at 18-21. #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    They should teach software production, interaction design and teamwork in college. They also need to research software processes #DevDiscuss
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Software development / operations / architecture do not reduce to “writing code”. If you can only code, your future is limited. #DevDiscuss
  • lilymercy Oct 10 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    It is not necessary to take the traditional route to be a great developer but it will help. #devdiscuss
  • bruno_dsm Oct 10 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    I would explore algorithms more in depth and take a look at scalability themes #DevDiscuss
  • MicroHex Oct 10 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    What would I do differently? The frakking internship. It's been hell without since graduation. =/ #devdiscuss
  • sadukie Oct 10 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    More practical, less hands on. More online learning, less academia. More on-the-job training, less in lecture halls. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    FINE to learn about computing by writing code (I did). At some point you apprehend the science under it, or remain a codemonkey. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • theteecee Oct 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    I wouldn't have waited forever to learn coding, been a lot more patient and humble. "Don't wait until you're ready, just start!"#devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    The hardest problem in software engineering is not writing algorithms, but getting many engineers to work smoothly together #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Exactly this! I wasn't a bad student, but I could work smarter now #DevDiscuss
    • mrjabbott Oct 10 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      I wouldn’t change many of my courses, but I would approach all of them with an academic curiosity I lacked at 18-21. #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Oct 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Yeah, I always felt like I would be back in tech in some capacity, but not as a programmer. It's funny how it worked out! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @fontosaurus, @ThePracticalDev
  • jon_bristow Oct 10 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    The discrete math and the theory of computation stuck with me. It helps me see when things are elegant. (Not #golang) #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • chrisvasqm Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Wish I didn't let the little voices in my head telling me "you are not good enough" keep me from coding for 2.5 years #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Stevezieglerva Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    I would have probably skipped out on getting my PMP. Didn't keep up with credits. I'm still able to lead projects and teams. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Relatable: - learning guitar by playing guitar, THEN lessons - working out, THEN using a trainer - cooking, THEN taking classes #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mathesondavid Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    TBH not sure, learning isnt linear & sometimes u need 2 wander around to pick up experiences, create dots to connect them later #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    I would have taken that C++ class many moons ago! (& I would have taken that left turn at Albuquerque!) #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • KPath001 Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    I would love to find a mentor like a big brother or sister while I'm studying that can show me the ropes as I go #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mrjabbott Oct 10 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    At the time I just wanted to be done so I could get my degree and a paycheck. Now I want to know about calculus, etc. #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    This is a great article about teaching software development https://t.co/KsXOv3ouWQ #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    I wish I learned / was taught more about soft skills / navigating the job market earlier on #DevDiscuss
  • bruno_dsm Oct 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Reading/coding more during the classes and if possible I would have written an article #DevDiscuss
  • SaraChicaD Oct 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Moderating a panel on tech transitions @ @RefreshAustin rn #DevDiscuss
  • andkerel Oct 10 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    coding neopets @ 12 > 1yr uni journalism > 4yr b.sc., bio > 8mos. dev/ux grad cert > career: frontend dev. aka thank you neopets #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      How is the computer science path different from other routes in to software development? Which path did you take? #DevDiscuss
  • KLETCO Oct 10 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Major in CS instead of IS. I wanted to be a DBA and not a programmer, but now that I am a programmer... #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Agree. I’ve tried hard to keep a CS program I care about from regressing into “teaching programming so you can get a job” #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @KLETCO, @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Oct 10 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    And lots of great knowledge bombs here https://t.co/S9fbmjpEmL #DevDiscuss
  • jordancolburn Oct 10 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Electrical engineering for me. Many of my classmates have all gotten into development over the past few years too. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • beccimelson Oct 10 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Although my route is non-traditional, I've grown so much through the struggle & fact that I've kept going. So I'd change nothing #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    BTW, hey peoples! (This is only my 2nd time here.) #devdiscuss
  • porto2112 Oct 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I would've given more attention to grades and publications. It matters a lot if you want to research and pursue higher degrees. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mrskellyvaughn Oct 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I 100% attribute my entire career to Neopets. If I hadn't wanted to create my own guild, I possibly never would've learned to code. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @andkerel
  • beccimelson Oct 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    ...Unless I somehow came into money. Then I definitely would have gone for CS (maybe a double major in English). #Devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    also possibly involving a computer! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @Nick_Craver
  • jordancolburn Oct 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I've picked up more CS over the years, but I feel like my strengths from EE are being product focused and learning quickly #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • mrjabbott Oct 10 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    I learned so much more about software dev as a 1st year intern than in most of my uni courses. #DevDiscuss
  • mrskellyvaughn Oct 10 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Non-traditional educational routes make for excellent collaboration experiences. Many different points of view and sources of creativity at the table. #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    I was into some forum like Neopets thing back in the day. I used to be pretty ok at BBCode #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @mrskellyvaughn, @andkerel
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    … but if you wanna create music, be a bodybuilder, or create menus, you NEED the theory underneath or u can only imitate #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • joshbuchea Oct 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    I might major in business instead of CS #DevDiscuss
  • mrjabbott Oct 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    So along with academic curiosity, more practical work early on would have been nice. #DevDiscuss
  • thefredelement Oct 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    All I wanted to do was make one app, 4 years later it's *still* not done :) but other, paying ones, are! #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I can definitely relate to this! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @JimYoull, @ThePracticalDev
  • onlybluefeet Oct 10 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I would have studied something else. Justice Studies was a wasted degree for me. #Devdiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Diversity pays off huge in development teams. You just have to get everyone focused on the same goals initially. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @mrskellyvaughn
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    I prolly would have put more focus on software testing earlier in my career. I used to be Mr. BugBuilder... #devdiscuss
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Wait, I still build more bugs than software. Not sure who I'm fooling... #devdiscuss
  • hxk33m Oct 10 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Currently doing that now. I'm focusing on technologies I'm passionate about rather than what pays more. #Devdiscuss
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Now if I could go back and rewrite that financial RPG terminal ap that I got blamed for breaking... #devdiscuss
  • Loopdeez Oct 10 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    I actually enjoy the pacing of a traditional CS degree. Learning topics over a semester forces you to stare them in the face. #Devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • AsyncCrazy Oct 10 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Would focus more on design patterns and practical programming #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @joshbuchea, @ThePracticalDev
  • Chromadream Oct 10 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    that's the passion I wish I can have. Maybe I'm greedy, but I always try to catch the highest-paying tech for now #devdiscuss
    In reply to @hxk33m, @ThePracticalDev
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    I sort of backed into my career by working at a temp agency. (Unrelated: I also backed into a parked van a year prior.) #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • SDHowell3 Oct 10 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    I would major in accounting and Compsci. #Devdiscuss
  • AsyncCrazy Oct 10 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Computer science 🔬 focuses on general concepts of computers like OS and Networking. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • JoseGonz321 Oct 10 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Focus on my communication (and all of my "soft skills"). Techs go obsolete but "soft skills" stay with you forever. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kimberlypilbeam Oct 10 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Cs degree seems more relevant while working with new tech. AR/VR, iOT, etc. #DevDiscuss
  • AsyncCrazy Oct 10 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    I haven’t used whatever I learnt in college so far in my career #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kimberlypilbeam Oct 10 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Learning about where tech has been helps to know how to build it for where it’s going. #DevDiscuss
  • Rubberduck203 Oct 10 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    I would have gotten a bachelors degree. I'd love to teach software engineering someday, but am afraid I won't be able to get the credentials to do it now. #DevDiscuss
  • kimberlypilbeam Oct 10 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    And with that being said, there are a lot of existing technologies that you can learn better as deeper without a degree. #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    I didn't know computer science / web dev was thinking about college. More guidance about what was out there would have been nice #DevDiscuss
  • _mohdjas Oct 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Writing code instead of reading theory, interning, wanting to learn than to get a job, networking. #DevDiscuss
  • JimYoull Oct 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Footnote: But they ALL *studied* *something*. Nobody attains mastery by thinking really hard & reading, or by practice alone. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Fresh out of high school, what do any of us know? #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    The world needs to start coding education in elementary school, with a real curriculum #DevDiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • kimberlypilbeam Oct 10 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    I would have minored in business or in-introverting yourself, or something. #DevDiscuss
  • Loopdeez Oct 10 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    I do find self paced courses to be great resources when learning a new language since It’s more syntactical #Devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    “Engineering education” should be a subject starting in elementary school #DevDiscuss
  • ChiSenires Oct 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Dang, I missed today's #DevDiscuss. And it was about CS vs Non-Trad! I wanted to learn more about that. Oh well :)) time to backreaad
  • gwmccull Oct 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I got my CS & deg then took 8 yrs off. Worked back into tech through self-ed and side projects. Started in QA then moved to dev #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • KyleStratis Oct 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I wouldn't trade the science grad experience for anything. That said, I'd still have liked a CS major or even a minor. I still pine for an MS in CS. #devdiscuss
  • tamasys Oct 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I've almost finished coding the online mentoring platform for mental health NFP StartOut Australia, which is pretty exciting. :) #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Oct 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Learning a new tool at work this week, which is cool. And @wordcampbalt is this weekend! #DevDiscuss
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I never got a CS degree. Everything I learned was hands on. #devdiscuss
  • lpasqualis Oct 10 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Building technology today gives me the same joy it did three decades ago. Regardless of the path, it is worth taking it #DevDiscuss
  • joshbuchea Oct 10 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Started working on a #sideproject 🥑 https://t.co/EAdzp6vxcs #AmazonAffiliate #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Oct 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
      In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • cliftonC76 Oct 10 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    I wouldn't trade my experience for a CS degree. Though I would trade my Xbox One and some cool games for a degree. #devdiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Oct 10 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    On topic of learning. Getting great feedback on my learning AWS book! Stay updated. Get preview chapters #devdiscuss https://t.co/10z3dHi2Hp