#profchat Archive
#Profchat serves as a way for educators all around the world to connect and expand their horizons.
Tuesday February 2, 2016
8:00 PM EST
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to
#profchat
Adding inspiration for reflection to our chat tonight;
@remiholden
& yours truly co-moderating
https://t.co/00VK1DjKXM
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:02 PM EST
It's
#profchat
time, y'all! Get amp'd for some reflection w/ moderators
@ambartosik
&
@remiholden
!
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:02 PM EST
howdy
#profchat
, pleased to co-mod w
@ambartosik
on
#GroundhogDay
. we're going a bit free-form tonight... who else is here? say hey!
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:03 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@ambartosik
@remiholden
hi
#profchat
buddies, joining for a bit tonight
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hi
#profchat
Rusul joining from Toronto for a minute or two! Awesome that
@ambartosik
&
@remiholden
made this happen last minute! 🌟🌟🌟🙌🏼
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
@KrisGiere
long time Kris, hope all is well with you
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
Anna from Ontario Canada in college ESL happy to be co-moderating with
@remiholden
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
@remiholden
@ambartosik
#profchat
Hi from Paul teaching Senior Project this sem. at Shaw U.
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
@KrisGiere
thanks for joining us Kris, glad you can make it!
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
I don't know about the rest of you, but I refused to look for my shadow all day today.
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hey Dina
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:05 PM EST
Welcome
@philosophypaul
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:05 PM EST
hey
@RusulAlrubail
, thanks for saying hey!
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:05 PM EST
@dinamoati
- Hi, Dina! It's been awhile for sure. Just doing my thing. I hope you are well!
#profchat
stephwurking
Feb 2 @ 8:05 PM EST
Look who's moderating
#profchat
tonight!
https://t.co/eFtV9zPxqo
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to
#profchat
Adding inspiration for reflection to our chat tonight;
@remiholden
& yours truly co-moderating
https://t.co/00VK1DjKXM
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:05 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@remiholden
@ambartosik
our philosopher is here! Long time Paul
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:06 PM EST
& for ppl who don't know me i'm an asst prof of information & learning technologies at
@CUDenverEd
, joining
#profchat
from very snowy denver
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:06 PM EST
@ambartosik
courtesy with heels my friend 😉
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:06 PM EST
@stephwurking
thx for joining us stephan!
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:07 PM EST
@KrisGiere
good to hear.. Same here, busy with the term and other activities..
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:07 PM EST
@dinamoati
@ambartosik
Dang! I forgot to curtsy again. :-(
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:07 PM EST
@KrisGiere
nice!
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:07 PM EST
@remiholden
thank you for planning this so last minute.
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:07 PM EST
@remiholden
@CUDenverEd
we are enjoying a great weather in Canada!
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:08 PM EST
To begin reflection, simply: What are some ways you reflect on your classroom practice?
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:08 PM EST
so
#profchat
is going to be a bit different than usual
@ambartosik
& i are going to do a bit of improvising sans q1/a1 format more free-form
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:08 PM EST
@ambartosik
@KrisGiere
practice makes perfect,
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:08 PM EST
@RusulAlrubail
of course, this is great, always like joining a solid conversation with wise people
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:09 PM EST
I read an article a few days ago on
@edutopia
that talks about using research & documentation as a form of reflective practice.
#profchat
co_hid
Feb 2 @ 8:09 PM EST
so
#profchat
is going to be a bit different than usual& i are going to do a bit of
https://t.co/zBMPPLopxP
https://t.co/mUHkAg2bYG
EleanorAbbey93
Feb 2 @ 8:08 PM EST
Still trying to make a decision on what hair colour to be!! Want to be a different colour for the meet up and DLP!!!
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:10 PM EST
@remiholden
totally agree!
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:10 PM EST
#profchat
this morning I reflected: is this my shadow or my reflection?
https://t.co/iMu0D7cnYw
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:10 PM EST
@RusulAlrubail
was that specific to ed research, like inquiry into teaching practices, & by practitioner, or broader? im curious
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:10 PM EST
#profchat
@philosophypaul
already touching on my thoughts
https://t.co/3iRBbAK6SN
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:09 PM EST
@ambartosik
A1 In motion reflection: Clear & Muddy Discussion; After the fact: SlO achievement stats. Plus, what are Ss telling me?
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:10 PM EST
@dinamoati
hi Dina, how's it going?
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:11 PM EST
Best time for me to reflect is when driving back home after class. I rewind the class in my head.
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:11 PM EST
Reflection is a lot like voting -- it's best if you do it early and often!
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
@remiholden
more like research & inquiry about how students are learning in the classroom to reflect on pedagogical practices
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
Where do you benefit most: in practice, student feedback, stats?
#profchat
https://t.co/3iRBbAK6SN
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:09 PM EST
@ambartosik
A1 In motion reflection: Clear & Muddy Discussion; After the fact: SlO achievement stats. Plus, what are Ss telling me?
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
Hi
#profchat
https://t.co/6WMiErPoMx
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
I'm drawn to introspection, so my reflections are often when I can shut out distractions & let the intersections wash over me.
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
@ohsoearly
Perhaps we do only know shadows today
#GroundhogDay
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
@dinamoati
reminds me abt working with pre-service teachers, i always emphasized importance of "car conversations" after teaching
#profchat
Mstew15
Feb 2 @ 8:12 PM EST
@ambartosik
@philosophypaul
Megan from the boston area...could you tell me more about "clear and muddy"?
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
Been to Iowa?
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@RusulAlrubail
nice, when it's convenient, can you send around a link? thx!
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
early is a great point, we can't remember much of the experience if we wait too long.
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@ohsoearly
- If it's a shadow, I am in denial and refuse to look.
#profchat
#terriblegroundhogdayjokes
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
but what if it results in a "virtual tie"?
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dinamoati
I did, it was fabulous!
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:14 PM EST
@ohsoearly
both if it was a selfie
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dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:14 PM EST
No -- I'm holding out for someone to buy my vote in November. :-)
#profchat
https://t.co/yEhgNYq7pZ
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
Been to Iowa?
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:14 PM EST
@remiholden
I talk about the same concept to my Ss as well..It's fresh in your head and driving alone provides quite times
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:14 PM EST
@Mstew15
@ambartosik
Clear and Muddy free forum for Ss to post concepts grasped and our mis-conceptions to discuss
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:14 PM EST
Tie goes to the reflective professor! :-)
#profchat
https://t.co/P6b2tZXGvV
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
but what if it results in a "virtual tie"?
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@remiholden
yes! Here you go:
https://t.co/Tgre1E62Pm
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
I stopped reading after “early is a great point”
#profchat
https://t.co/2XIlcmZmii
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
early is a great point, we can't remember much of the experience if we wait too long.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@dinamoati
i know do the same when running, helps me process prior teaching decisions, or writing problems, too
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
Great point! The same applies for our Ss.
#profchat
https://t.co/ToLpAWT55f
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
early is a great point, we can't remember much of the experience if we wait too long.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@RusulAlrubail
awesome, adding it to tomorrow's reading list. thanks again!
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
Looks like I’m a winner
#profchat
https://t.co/UD3Kfrrm60
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:14 PM EST
@ohsoearly
both if it was a selfie
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@dbuckedu
great analogy David! I like that. But we sometimes reflect on our reflections as well.. Revisit and asses hidden spots.
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@dbuckedu
- And twice when you're dead. Wait...
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@Mstew15
@ambartosik
so that's a forum you're using in an online course, open for student comments?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM EST
How many other profs run for (or away from) reflection
#profchat
Cherish that time for thinking, too
https://t.co/CEzIDNmxM5
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@dinamoati
i know do the same when running, helps me process prior teaching decisions, or writing problems, too
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM EST
@ohsoearly
@dbuckedu
loool!!! It took me a bit to get it 😂👏🏼
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM EST
@remiholden
good one as well. Frees the mind
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:16 PM EST
Rapid reflective turn-around insures engagement and progress
#profchat
https://t.co/KzOfmGtvo5
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
Great point! The same applies for our Ss.
#profchat
https://t.co/ToLpAWT55f
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dbuckedu
early is a great point, we can't remember much of the experience if we wait too long.
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
@remiholden
anytime!
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
I like this -- reflection as a recursive process. A never-ending cycle.
#profchat
https://t.co/vGOJ4Vx3NL
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@dbuckedu
great analogy David! I like that. But we sometimes reflect on our reflections as well.. Revisit and asses hidden spots.
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
@ohsoearly
@RusulAlrubail
@dbuckedu
lol! Just noticed Mr. Early!
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
@ambartosik
- No running for me. My knees created an ordinance against that.
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
Tom Farrell's framework for Reflecting on Practice Sounds like
@philosophypaul
1st comment
#profchat
https://t.co/wbgE9cGy5w
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
Immediate feedback and long range planning perspective makes a good combination
#profchat
https://t.co/aaJchCciXX
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:15 PM EST
@dbuckedu
great analogy David! I like that. But we sometimes reflect on our reflections as well.. Revisit and asses hidden spots.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:18 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i'm curious abt the cyclical nature of reflection... are some educators "always" in tune w certain reflective practices?
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:18 PM EST
@ambartosik
@remiholden
@dinamoati
how many of us struggle to find time for reflection?
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:19 PM EST
@ambartosik
@philosophypaul
nice, & similar to
@dbuckedu
's comment, too. can you ever "step out" of that cycle? if so, when & why?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:19 PM EST
and
@dinamoati
just referred to cyclical nature of reflection, too
#profchat
https://t.co/rixIZ7jInW
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:17 PM EST
Tom Farrell's framework for Reflecting on Practice Sounds like
@philosophypaul
1st comment
#profchat
https://t.co/wbgE9cGy5w
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:19 PM EST
Right, perhaps result of development & learning the craft. Great if begins early in career, then a habit.
#profchat
https://t.co/OWhhquet4D
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:18 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i'm curious abt the cyclical nature of reflection... are some educators "always" in tune w certain reflective practices?
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:19 PM EST
Reflection like any process can become stagnant if we don't practice it in good faith or w/ openness.
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:20 PM EST
A2 Some Ts develop the practice of self-reflection. Enlist others in the cycle of life-long learning.
#profchat
https://t.co/5URLUKNoHO
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:18 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i'm curious abt the cyclical nature of reflection... are some educators "always" in tune w certain reflective practices?
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
@ambartosik
#profchat
https://t.co/eViG37lZrV
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
Instead of "stepping out," perhaps more of a difference of perspective level. Global vs. local view.
#profchat
https://t.co/GZ5SIJeCt0
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:19 PM EST
@ambartosik
@philosophypaul
nice, & similar to
@dbuckedu
's comment, too. can you ever "step out" of that cycle? if so, when & why?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
For me: exhaustion, disillusionment, focusing on -ve feedback & not seeing positive
#profchat
https://t.co/jyqmH81LpZ
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:19 PM EST
@ambartosik
@philosophypaul
nice, & similar to
@dbuckedu
's comment, too. can you ever "step out" of that cycle? if so, when & why?
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
@remiholden
@ambartosik
@dbuckedu
Reply: pragmatism says you go on learning and revising as truth grows and confirmation compounds
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
@RusulAlrubail
- I think educators can choose to say they don't have time to reflect.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i wonder about that... extended moments of reflective vs in-the-moment "meta" thoughts about my teaching
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
Perhaps connected to the "how" of reflection. Thinking, writing, discussing, meditating, presenting.
#profchat
https://t.co/Qhvfr4kkYF
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:21 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i wonder about that... extended moments of reflective vs in-the-moment "meta" thoughts about my teaching
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
@ambartosik
Reply ? How does reflection relieve exhaustion, inspire motivation?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
@dbuckedu
Does mentoring new teachers = peer reflection? Are their reflections on your teaching valid to you? Consideration?
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
Do you find that there's a common misconception that reflections need to be materialized into blogs and posts to count?
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
Non-reflection is a choice.
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM EST
@ambartosik
@dbuckedu
- Mentoring should be a reflective practice if growth is the goal.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
there's challenge of forcing reflection as externally motivated. everyday disposition toward reflection?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM EST
@philosophypaul
please tell me :) I focus on what's wrong usually
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM EST
I would think so. Many new teachers very knowledgeable about latest theory/practice. Can be helpful.
#profchat
https://t.co/bkzoA60X5A
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
@dbuckedu
Does mentoring new teachers = peer reflection? Are their reflections on your teaching valid to you? Consideration?
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:24 PM EST
@RusulAlrubail
@ambartosik
@remiholden
I think we are reflecting all the time "internally". What worked and what didn't
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:25 PM EST
@remiholden
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
- Reflection w/o growth is...well, staring.
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:25 PM EST
@dinamoati
Are you asking: Do reflections require documentation?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
What are other methods of reflection that don't include blogging or posts?
#profchat
https://t.co/jW1pqMAo21
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
Do you find that there's a common misconception that reflections need to be materialized into blogs and posts to count?
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
@dinamoati
@RusulAlrubail
@ambartosik
yes & challenge is that internal makes sense to me but maybe not u. difficult externalizing
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
Can focus on reflection become overextended to the point that it blocks action? If stop to consider everything, may be frozen.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
that's great!
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
@dinamoati
- Yes. I think people can subscribe to a pics-or-it-didnt-happen mentality about reflection.
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
@ambartosik
Ah. Reply: reflect on the balance of your reflection; What went wrong? AND What went right?
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:27 PM EST
@ambartosik
reflection podcast FTW!
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:27 PM EST
@ambartosik
taking a colleague out for a drink (beer, tea, whatever)! get off campus, face to face, more personable
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:28 PM EST
@philosophypaul
many stress the importance of documenting reflections rather than reflecting, thoughts?
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:28 PM EST
@remiholden
@RusulAlrubail
- I also don't think forced reflection is innately harmful. I also don't think force is necessary.
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:28 PM EST
Or really just signs of growth after reflection
#profchat
- don’t have to show the reflection, but show the effect
https://t.co/nQsdrLYsSX
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
What are other methods of reflection that don't include blogging or posts?
#profchat
https://t.co/jW1pqMAo21
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:23 PM EST
Do you find that there's a common misconception that reflections need to be materialized into blogs and posts to count?
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:28 PM EST
@dbuckedu
in other words, presence to one's thoughts become a prison of inaction? yeah... that's a complicated tension
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
@ohsoearly
what does FTW stand for ?
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denielsen
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
@ambartosik
@dinamoati
I think discussion with peers, or just contemplation on your way to work all counts as reflection
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
@ambartosik
podcasts is another way to publish it
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
@dinamoati
- We might be, but we might not be cognizant of it or purposeful w/ it.
@RusulAlrubail
@ambartosik
@remiholden
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
Ah -- what are the best SETTINGS for reflection? My vote involves spirits of some kind!
#profchat
https://t.co/zChyy3Jvji
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:27 PM EST
@ambartosik
taking a colleague out for a drink (beer, tea, whatever)! get off campus, face to face, more personable
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
@denielsen
@ambartosik
exactly or even thinking it out loud and looking at what worked and what didn't
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
i've had some challenging classes when "forcing" Ss to reflect upon their decisions... or their biases!
#profchat
julnilsmith
Feb 2 @ 8:30 PM EST
@dbuckedu
@remiholden
@ambartosik
shower and driving are my best spots! :)
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:30 PM EST
@dbuckedu
well, as someone who cares about place & studies place-based ed, it's all abt setting! drinks always a plus!
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:31 PM EST
@dinamoati
Documenting important as a means to reflection. Instrumental value still evident in outcomes and Ss feedback
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:31 PM EST
Yes -- the addiction to thought as a barrier to innovative practice. "Just do it!" works sometimes.
#profchat
https://t.co/zMj75GGE1a
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:28 PM EST
@dbuckedu
in other words, presence to one's thoughts become a prison of inaction? yeah... that's a complicated tension
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:31 PM EST
@remiholden
- There isn't consent there. No change can be made w/o a desire to change sotospeak.
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:31 PM EST
@julnilsmith
@dbuckedu
@ambartosik
there's some interesting lit on "shower thoughts" & scientific insights from everyday activity
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:31 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
@ambartosik
@remiholden
granted. An important key is "intentionality"
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:31 PM EST
@dinamoati
@philosophypaul
If it's personal,it may be more honest. Or vice versa,since you take accountability for published words
#profchat
julnilsmith
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@remiholden
@dbuckedu
@ambartosik
my showers: 10% actual cleaning, 90% contemplating life :)
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@dbuckedu
oh yeah. i'm a runner & have raced since high school. when on the line & the gun fires you only have one choice - go.
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
Only one of those settings will work for peer reflection. I assume most profs would know which one!
#profchat
https://t.co/XXnlOibRVM
julnilsmith
Feb 2 @ 8:30 PM EST
@dbuckedu
@remiholden
@ambartosik
shower and driving are my best spots! :)
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@remiholden
away from the scene of the crime :)
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@dbuckedu
oooh spirits...spooky
#profchat
https://t.co/WIFRuZtrqw
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@ambartosik
@philosophypaul
good point!!
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:33 PM EST
So what does the research say about beers and reflection?! ;-)
#profchat
https://t.co/qQWab40mdj
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:30 PM EST
@dbuckedu
well, as someone who cares about place & studies place-based ed, it's all abt setting! drinks always a plus!
#profchat
julnilsmith
Feb 2 @ 8:33 PM EST
@dbuckedu
@remiholden
@ambartosik
whoops sorry, late joiner. Didnt know peers were involved! 😉
#awkward
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:33 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
yes... interesting... what are the relationships among reflection, consent & "speaking truth to power?"
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:33 PM EST
@ohsoearly
feeling like an ESL learner right now :)
#profchat
stephwurking
Feb 2 @ 8:33 PM EST
It's cyclical - we reflect to act, we act to reflect.
#profchat
https://t.co/xI5q8kgmlX
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM EST
Can focus on reflection become overextended to the point that it blocks action? If stop to consider everything, may be frozen.
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
@dbuckedu
@remiholden
@ambartosik
ah! Do tell
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
These spirits would work too, I imagine!
#profchat
https://t.co/7s7gaMHcLh
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@dbuckedu
oooh spirits...spooky
#profchat
https://t.co/WIFRuZtrqw
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
that's great reminder & a real asset when teaching online or hybrid - can speak & write in many ways
#profchat
julnilsmith
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
Hey
#profchat
pals - giving a wkrshp tmrw on student engagement. Any tips or tricks? =)
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@julnilsmith
@dbuckedu
@ambartosik
maybe they're the same!
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
BEvERages & reflection
#profchat
https://t.co/Ub5AU1kBgY
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:29 PM EST
Ah -- what are the best SETTINGS for reflection? My vote involves spirits of some kind!
#profchat
https://t.co/zChyy3Jvji
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:27 PM EST
@ambartosik
taking a colleague out for a drink (beer, tea, whatever)! get off campus, face to face, more personable
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:35 PM EST
@remiholden
- That is an amazing question & one I try to navigate purposefully.
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:35 PM EST
@dbuckedu
apparently - though im not speaking from experience - there's a positive correlation bw # of beers & reflective efficacy
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:35 PM EST
These experiences never make it into the public record!
#profchat
https://t.co/bx061BElcM
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:34 PM EST
@dbuckedu
@remiholden
@ambartosik
ah! Do tell
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:36 PM EST
I'm a late adapter, but completely sold
#profchat
https://t.co/ZN1Pqwdc9z
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:32 PM EST
@dbuckedu
oh yeah. i'm a runner & have raced since high school. when on the line & the gun fires you only have one choice - go.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:37 PM EST
@ambartosik
i'm an addict, there's no question about that
#profchat
cc
@RunnersRoostCO
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:37 PM EST
Wow -- any implications for the classroom?! ;-)
#profchat
https://t.co/LXitXNDh2M
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:35 PM EST
@dbuckedu
apparently - though im not speaking from experience - there's a positive correlation bw # of beers & reflective efficacy
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:38 PM EST
@remiholden
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
Reply: Speaking truth may involve others w consent. Reflection may be self directed
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:38 PM EST
Why co-moderating with
@remiholden
is a win-win situation for me
#profchat
https://t.co/NmXE6vqr0O
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:37 PM EST
Wow -- any implications for the classroom?! ;-)
#profchat
https://t.co/LXitXNDh2M
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:35 PM EST
@dbuckedu
apparently - though im not speaking from experience - there's a positive correlation bw # of beers & reflective efficacy
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:39 PM EST
@dbuckedu
- I imagine comfort level & openness to new ideas might translate.
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:39 PM EST
The groundhog still showing his shadow in our chat
#profchat
https://t.co/KeHal6ZTZz
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:33 PM EST
@remiholden
@julnilsmith
@dbuckedu
@ambartosik
shower thoughts versus shadow thoughts?
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
@dbuckedu
well, believe it or not, greater reflective intensity correlates w likelihood that tomorrow morning's class starts later
#profchat
dinamoati
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
Sorry
#profchat
, have to run.. Glad I could join for a bit tonight.. Have a great night
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
so then what are the benefits of reflecting publicly, in the moment & unscripted?
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
@philosophypaul
- Self-directed reflection has been my greatest tool for personal growth.
@remiholden
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:41 PM EST
Ah -- the price of intensive reflection!
#profchat
https://t.co/XwAnsUaTtZ
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
@dbuckedu
well, believe it or not, greater reflective intensity correlates w likelihood that tomorrow morning's class starts later
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:41 PM EST
@remiholden
@dbuckedu
Reflection will make it worth the wait.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:41 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@philosophypaul
@RusulAlrubail
for me there's also benefit to reflecting after being "called out," for whatever reason
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:41 PM EST
This is amazing,
@remiholden
Can you tell me what I had for dinner
#profchat
https://t.co/LKsQuJiOH9
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
@dbuckedu
well, believe it or not, greater reflective intensity correlates w likelihood that tomorrow morning's class starts later
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:42 PM EST
Has anyone tried the "Jelly Bean" student poll for reflective practice in the classroom?
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:42 PM EST
@remiholden
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
Reply: spontaneous reflection as the keel may redirect practice to mutually desired ends
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:42 PM EST
@ambartosik
no, tell us more!
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:43 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
that's really nice, brings us back to the importance of deft educator facilitation
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:43 PM EST
Yes, a powerful tool: self-knowledge. Meet the Oracle of Delphi
#profchat
https://t.co/VTOzBwFolQ
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:40 PM EST
@philosophypaul
- Self-directed reflection has been my greatest tool for personal growth.
@remiholden
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:43 PM EST
Any connection between depth of reflection to the degree of self-awareness? I assume the self-aware are more open to vulnerability
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:43 PM EST
@dbuckedu
and also open to critique?
#profchat
ohsoearly
Feb 2 @ 8:44 PM EST
@ambartosik
you’re good, sometimes I just spout gibberish
#profchat
https://t.co/M9RI5mNND0
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:44 PM EST
I need more than 140 to explain the Jelly Bean Poll; see below
#profchat
https://t.co/PQIGWQuc1y
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:45 PM EST
Right -- confidence in receiving criticism. Does this confidence emanate from reflection?
#profchat
https://t.co/Er7Ea8Tu4j
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:43 PM EST
@dbuckedu
and also open to critique?
#profchat
JohnPSauter
Feb 2 @ 8:45 PM EST
A little late to
#profchat
, but John Sauter from Niagara Univ &
@WNYadvising
.
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@remiholden
I like it! I usually call this collaboration/brainstorming. How's it different to you?
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
RusulAlrubail
- Moderator
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@remiholden
@philosophypaul
@KrisGiere
this is such a great convo. just catching up
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@dbuckedu
not sure. i'd like to be vulnerable as an outcome of my reflection (esp w teaching), but i' not always open for critique
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@remiholden
- I too find benefit here, though I still reflect in private.
@philosophypaul
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:47 PM EST
@ambartosik
You supply the jelly beans?
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:47 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@ambartosik
send some to denver!
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:47 PM EST
So the difference is between the internal (your self-criticism) and the external (another's critique)?
#profchat
https://t.co/P60YSZy0jl
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@dbuckedu
not sure. i'd like to be vulnerable as an outcome of my reflection (esp w teaching), but i' not always open for critique
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:47 PM EST
@philosophypaul
I always supply food in class; inspires food for thought...?
#profchat
#costcomembership
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:48 PM EST
@remiholden
@philosophypaul
You can have the mint ones; bleagh!
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:48 PM EST
@KrisGiere
@philosophypaul
@RusulAlrubail
thx for mentioning. pessimistic me sometimes thinks public reflection = "scoring points"
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:48 PM EST
@dbuckedu
- I think most of the time this is probably true.
#profchat
JohnPSauter
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
#profchat
I'm using bell hooks Teaching to Transgress in my
#socofhed
. It forces me to reflect on my own teaching in class w my students.
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
Guess the challenge is how to develop both at same time.
#profchat
https://t.co/XcIOC4u9XG
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:48 PM EST
@dbuckedu
- I think most of the time this is probably true.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i'd like to think i'm all about being vulnerable & accepting critique, but in practice... much harder, esp w colleagues
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
This is a real concern for teachers reluctant to engage in peer reflection
#profchat
https://t.co/meORRnHh4x
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@dbuckedu
not sure. i'd like to be vulnerable as an outcome of my reflection (esp w teaching), but i' not always open for critique
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:50 PM EST
Yes -- very true!
#profchat
https://t.co/UZafcxGR6I
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i'd like to think i'm all about being vulnerable & accepting critique, but in practice... much harder, esp w colleagues
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
@remiholden
- I see the benefit for others when they reflect publicly. It's just a conflict for me.
@philosophypaul
@RusulAlrubail
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
Until some student with a food allergy sues you. Just joking! :-)
#profchat
https://t.co/qBmii41C4o
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:47 PM EST
@philosophypaul
I always supply food in class; inspires food for thought...?
#profchat
#costcomembership
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
@JohnPSauter
explain more, please. Interested & Interesting
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
@ambartosik
yes too frequently i see educators "rehearse" reflection w/out diving deep... & i've done the same. not good & useful
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
@remiholden
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
Public reflection can be collaborative and revisionary depending on communicated purpose
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
@dbuckedu
- Or develop both as they are needed. Faster isn't always better.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:51 PM EST
@philosophypaul
@KrisGiere
@RusulAlrubail
do you have an ex of someone's rationale for public reflection that you've found useful?
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:52 PM EST
Right -- the whole research behind the paralysis of choice. Good lesson for our approach to Ss!
#profchat
https://t.co/03aol4miDc
professorsv
Feb 2 @ 8:50 PM EST
Good question
@dbuckedu
and sometimes reflection brings up too many things and paralysis from too many options
https://t.co/7InuPUxgCj
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:52 PM EST
@remiholden
What about our possessiveness about "our" classrooms? Is it warranted?
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:53 PM EST
Defuse the antagonism in peer reflection. Create ground rules for mutual edification.
#profchat
https://t.co/PvnCZLUqMS
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
This is a real concern for teachers reluctant to engage in peer reflection
#profchat
https://t.co/meORRnHh4x
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:46 PM EST
@dbuckedu
not sure. i'd like to be vulnerable as an outcome of my reflection (esp w teaching), but i' not always open for critique
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:53 PM EST
@dbuckedu
No, you're not :)
#profchat
#thisistheworldweteachin
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:53 PM EST
@JohnPSauter
- Very cool! I just purchased this book to force a similar reaction w/in my self & practice.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:54 PM EST
@ambartosik
& how frequently does individual exp speak to collective curiosities & concerns? how do systems value ppl's truths?
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:55 PM EST
@remiholden
I think the word "truths" is the most telling. We all have a truth
#profchat
Need to value, respect, but also question them all
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:55 PM EST
#profchat
https://t.co/iIMwlXoDyi
JohnPSauter
Feb 2 @ 8:54 PM EST
@ambartosik
It is all about critical/engaged pedagogy & voices in the classroom (Race, gender, intersectionality, theory...)
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:55 PM EST
What about academic leaders -- how to encourage admins to engage in reflection? How would that inform their leadership?
#profchat
philosophypaul
Feb 2 @ 8:56 PM EST
@remiholden
@ambartosik
Systems value ppl's truths as commodities. Does the idea sell? Can the idea be exchanged?
#profchat
professorsv
Feb 2 @ 8:56 PM EST
This is one of the hardest things we do-being vulnerable with colleagues.We aren't trained to do this.
#profchat
https://t.co/IyLsphx5mJ
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:49 PM EST
@dbuckedu
i'd like to think i'm all about being vulnerable & accepting critique, but in practice... much harder, esp w colleagues
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:56 PM EST
hey
#profchat
we've only got a few minutes left. first, props to
@ambartosik
. second, some reflections on this chat as different from usual?
JohnPSauter
Feb 2 @ 8:56 PM EST
@KrisGiere
I first read it 17 years ago & find it even more meaningful now, as I look back on how it shaped my teaching / advising
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:57 PM EST
@dbuckedu
- I would start by encouraging mentorship programming & be firm about it being modeled from the top.
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:57 PM EST
LOVE the free form.
#profchat
https://t.co/Jd3D7CUOAj
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:56 PM EST
hey
#profchat
we've only got a few minutes left. first, props to
@ambartosik
. second, some reflections on this chat as different from usual?
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:57 PM EST
@professorsv
Some of us weren't trained to teach, either. Sometimes we need to force ourselves
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:58 PM EST
@JohnPSauter
- That is great to hear. I am really looking forward to reading it.
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:58 PM EST
@dbuckedu
improvisation is in my DNA, i like this approach to a chat, too.
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:58 PM EST
I want to go back & read
@remiholden
tweets. He always pushes for more reflection & consideration of posts
#profchat
https://t.co/Yt2JUIAV6G
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:57 PM EST
LOVE the free form.
#profchat
https://t.co/Jd3D7CUOAj
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:56 PM EST
hey
#profchat
we've only got a few minutes left. first, props to
@ambartosik
. second, some reflections on this chat as different from usual?
professorsv
Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM EST
@dbuckedu
but we expect Ssto be responsive to our critique and accepting- we don't always practice what we preach.
#profchat
dbuckedu
Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM EST
Yes! Benefit -- no need to worry about falling behind on next question. Able to digress in side convos.
#profchat
https://t.co/JmSdjndpFf
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:58 PM EST
@dbuckedu
improvisation is in my DNA, i like this approach to a chat, too.
#profchat
KrisGiere
Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM EST
@remiholden
@ambartosik
- You two rocked it & kept it moving. Thanks for keeping me engaged!
#profchat
remiholden
Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM EST
@ambartosik
too kind, it's been a great convo. i really appreciate this group of thoughtful educators
#profchat
ambartosik
Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM EST
@professorsv
@dbuckedu
So true
#profchat
professorsv
Feb 2 @ 8:59 PM EST
@remiholden
@dbuckedu
This is one of our greatest challenges as teacher. It isn't easy.
#profchat