#ankedchat Archive
Thursday April 21, 2016
10:01 PM EDT
GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Cory Goldsmith. Ankeny tech coach. I don't have a classroom anymore, so no personal grading practices now
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Carrie from Pflugerville, TX 6th Gr. World Cultures & dpt. chair. Have used SBG for the past two years.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:01 PM EDT
I'm Dave - co-mod of
#ankedchat
and econ/history/soc teacher at Centennial HS in Ankeny, IA - been doing the SB thing for about 5 years.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
We use the Q1/A1 format. There are 7 Qs tonight as we discuss standards-based instruction. Remember to use
#ankedchat
in all your tweets.
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
I am going to attempt to only lurk, probably speak up though! ;) Randi. 7th grade sci in DMPS. 4th year SBP and SBG.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
@GoldsmithCory
Hey Cory - great to have you
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Nate, 7th literacy in DMPS, third year w SRG
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
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Ryan, from Flint, MI. I began the change over to SB practices last year. Growth mindset is stronger than ever!
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
@carrieokieking
Thanks for joining us, Carrie!
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mariahbabbel
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Mariah, 3rd grade soon to be 5th and no standard base grading in my district, but interested in learning about it.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Welcome and yes please speak up!!
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https://t.co/HnqaaazE9S
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:02 PM EDT
I am going to attempt to only lurk, probably speak up though! ;) Randi. 7th grade sci in DMPS. 4th year SBP and SBG.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Beginners to our chat you can follow
#ankedchat
at
https://t.co/gWS4yaKi1d
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:03 PM EDT
@LinesScience
Welcome Randi!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:03 PM EDT
@MrLisekRPSA
Hi Ryan! Great to have you!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:03 PM EDT
@mrevansclass
Thanks for being here Nate
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:03 PM EDT
@LinesScience
Hey! Good to "see" you again today!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:03 PM EDT
@MrLisekRPSA
Hi Ryan - thanks for joining us!
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NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Nathan Kleinmeyer, 8th Grade American History in Plattsmouth, NE. Happy National High 5 Day Everyone. Only happens
#onceayear
#AnkEdChat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:04 PM EDT
@mariahbabbel
Hi Mariah! Thanks for being at
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:05 PM EDT
@mrevansclass
just can't get enough of you apparently.
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#innov8dmps
https://t.co/bhbz7DsPOT
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Wow, some first-timers joining
#ankedchat
tonight - great to see!
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:05 PM EDT
We're going to get the SBL ball rolling in a minute with Q1
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:05 PM EDT
@DRich0696
@PeaceLoveMHeine
Glad to be back!
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heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Hi
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. Heather with
#edmentum
. Interested to learn about how we can better support IA schools in shift to SBG.
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:06 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
Hi Nathan! How's
#NETA16
??
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:06 PM EDT
@heather_edtech
thanks Heather - we'd love to get support from
#edmentum
- right, crew?
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:06 PM EDT
@LinesScience
gif it up, girl. Lol
#gifsarefunny
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https://t.co/zDiTh7DqrU
bdsnakeIowa
Apr 21 @ 10:07 PM EDT
@DRich0696
#ankedchat
Brandt Snakenberg Tech Director lurking and learning
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: SBL is controversial and its a game-changer. It is a different approach to learning than all Ps and most Ts experienced
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:07 PM EDT
@bdsnakeIowa
Great that you're here in whatever capacity you need to grow!
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: Moving away from effort and more toward growth in learning is making more and more sense to educators.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Q1:
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https://t.co/4jN7Ai0tq9
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:06 PM EDT
https://t.co/1yUEDJ6YLE
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Sorry who's asking the ??s tonight? Didn't see Q1
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1. No letter grades. No GPAs. "Effort" isn't graded. It's all about what students know
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GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM EDT
It's different. Different can be scary for a lot of people. A1
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Get better every day!
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https://t.co/mVeczQgumh
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: Moving away from effort and more toward growth in learning is making more and more sense to educators.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM EDT
.
@mrevansclass
just posted Q1 - they're all JPGs tonight and we will alternate between me and
@DRich0696
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GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM EDT
No hashtag on Q1....rookie mistake
@DRich0696
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
are the presentations available online?
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: change is always a hot topic…different than standard quo will always cause heads to turn.
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: grading on standards takes away much of the issues w validity of grading. R they proficient? Can they meet standard?
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Different. And change. Change sucks for many people.
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https://t.co/gF7vqivzlK
GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM EDT
It's different. Different can be scary for a lot of people. A1
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:10 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@DRich0696
thank u both
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:11 PM EDT
@GoldsmithCory
@DRich0696
You were a 2 for this LT, but you improved and worked up to "meets the standard." You're growing!
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Your point has made my conversations with parents stronger!
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https://t.co/gd4fYK6VVu
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1. No letter grades. No GPAs. "Effort" isn't graded. It's all about what students know
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Sorry
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, my screw up on Q1 - do I get points deducted?
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A1 SBG also takes away prejudice. Students either know content, are getting content but not there yet, or have far to go.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:11 PM EDT
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@DRich0696
Just continue learning!!
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:12 PM EDT
@LinesScience
nice job lurking... You're really good at that... Ha ha. ;) you have some great ideas. Keep it up
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Q2:
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https://t.co/Xp98AyNvyf
BrendaColby
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Yes, try to keep up please!
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NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1: There's a disconnect from parent experiences to what we do with Standards Based Learning. Its not what they did.
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heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1: SBG makes sense. The "idea economy" requires more empowered & engaged Ss.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
@LinesScience
subjectivity is reduced!
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1: Ts, Ss, and parents who enjoyed extra credit, grading on the curve, etc. are frustrated bc SRG takes work
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Answer one, two, or all of them.
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https://t.co/4lH5EHvCLr
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Q2:
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https://t.co/Xp98AyNvyf
bdsnakeIowa
Apr 21 @ 10:14 PM EDT
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a1 I see it for me it is fear on unknown. Mostly need to learn myself to find my comfort
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:14 PM EDT
This is one of the big ones, I think.
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https://t.co/fzbtQhOFLE
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1: There's a disconnect from parent experiences to what we do with Standards Based Learning. Its not what they did.
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GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2: with sbg, should we really have a final project/test that is worth a set percent of grade?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A couple of nights of
#sblchat
(Wed 9 pm) will reduce fears!
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https://t.co/WpZS6cZcep
bdsnakeIowa
Apr 21 @ 10:14 PM EDT
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a1 I see it for me it is fear on unknown. Mostly need to learn myself to find my comfort
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 part1: takes a little longer to build assessments but it's made blding our units better w/ backwards design.
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BarefQQt
Apr 21 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Still cleaning up from dinner. May have to catch up with this chat after the fact. Bummer!
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 our instruction has to change to try to get ss to proficiency not to check off assignments and lessons How will ss learn best?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: Ideally, we would report learning with a grade only at the end of the year (or semester). Until then just update progress.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: Long range planning has to be tentative and adjustable - tomorrow's lesson is based on today's learning
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: it's a mindset shift. Work backwards w the end in mind. Plan from end of unit first. Teach, assess, shift gears, teach
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GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
And a kid wakes up....goodnight
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I look forward to reading through the conversation later.
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Instruction and assessment with learning targets defined before we go into the classroom.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/p72pzwQ798
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 part1: takes a little longer to build assessments but it's made blding our units better w/ backwards design.
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: We have to identify Ss outcome first; guide practice from there (UbD). Dropping letter grades is a must. What is a C anyway?
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GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Hey! Sheena from Waukee checking in late! Sorry!
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NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: A focus on Essential Outcomes & Learning Standards.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2: My planning is changing drastically. More upfront work to manage the skills.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
@BarefQQt
Hi Julie!
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 grading has to be done with PLC (same grade/content team) to ensure grading is consistent throughout classes and teachers
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 part 2: Parents have had an adjustment period w/ grades being lower (sometimes) than what they are used to seeing.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
Sheena! Thanks for being here again.
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BarefQQt
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
@DRich0696
... And I'm actually finally seeing your tweets in my feed again. You're back!! Not sure what made the change.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Have I mentioned how proud I am of you??
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#formerstudent
https://t.co/rpfDaTHEHp
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Hey! Sheena from Waukee checking in late! Sorry!
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GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A1&2: I think we have to spend more time educating parents and kids about WHY we've made the switch. We have to be explicit.
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
I love projects showing proficiency. Maybe it is an attempt but not an "end all be all" grade
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https://t.co/wIOE2fBXBu
GoldsmithCory
Apr 21 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2: with sbg, should we really have a final project/test that is worth a set percent of grade?
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
@GoldsmithCory
If the task fits the standard, shouldn't it reflect 100% of the grade?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
@carrieokieking
grades will follow the learning - sometimes a tough pill to swallow.
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NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: Very difficult to merge percentages with SBG. Report cards & grading periods are also big hangups; ones we can work around.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
SAME!
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https://t.co/MXnqwUGaAW
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Have I mentioned how proud I am of you??
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#formerstudent
https://t.co/rpfDaTHEHp
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Hey! Sheena from Waukee checking in late! Sorry!
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amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: I let the computer worry about the letter grade. I focus on proficiency scale for mastery.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
@amandabethallen
Hi Amanda!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Can you expand on this? How does the computer figure the letter grade?
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https://t.co/VAmWiUAKY9
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: I let the computer worry about the letter grade. I focus on proficiency scale for mastery.
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heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: The shift calls for Ts who are flexible & nimble to focus on building strong relationships with Ss.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: My instruction has changed to more student-centered...less of me, more of them!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Yes, SBL is worth making accommodations!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/DIbIMxucjs
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: Very difficult to merge percentages with SBG. Report cards & grading periods are also big hangups; ones we can work around.
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GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: a big prob is compliance vs engagement. The value and relevance has to be there for everything we do. It wasn't for us.
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
@DRich0696
agreed! Also has provided great data 2 show Ps thus leading 2 better conversations w/ them & how 2 assist their child
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:20 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
that's why a 0-4 system is easier than %. How can a T say a kid only knows 72.3% of a standard?
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:20 PM EDT
@GoldsmithCory
More cause for a well prepared and thought out rubric, making expectations clear for the Ss.
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Learning targets are a daily thing! They can change day to day. They should up in rigor as you go deeper
#ankedchat
https://t.co/bh6S3TdnOO
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Instruction and assessment with learning targets defined before we go into the classroom.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/p72pzwQ798
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 part1: takes a little longer to build assessments but it's made blding our units better w/ backwards design.
#ankedchat
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Teachers have been training students to complete tasks of homework completion instead of inquiry and learning. We need scholars.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:21 PM EDT
KaBoom - blow up compliance - it has no place here!
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https://t.co/lODdgCM88R
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: a big prob is compliance vs engagement. The value and relevance has to be there for everything we do. It wasn't for us.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:21 PM EDT
@mrevansclass
That's just a quiz question away from 75%!
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#sarcasm
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Question #3 is coming up in two shakes of a lamb's tail (if you grew up a farm kid you know that is fast)
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:22 PM EDT
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@NKleinmeyer
so how do we change our assessments to reflect teaching this way???
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GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:22 PM EDT
When we went to school, we just completed tasks; little was true deep thinking vs what we do now. We've gotta educate parents.
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thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Good Evening
#ankedchat
! Steven Hopper, Curriculum Tech Coordinator, late (as per the usual). Eager to join the conversation.
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
#ankedchat
https://t.co/0fI8Mp5VPT
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@NKleinmeyer
I decided this morning in the shower to change the format of my next summative.
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LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Yes! Make them do the thinking!!!
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https://t.co/WkqB3OGSnY
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: My instruction has changed to more student-centered...less of me, more of them!
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davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Good evening
#ankedchat
! April Davenport, 7/8th grade ELA. Late because of Arietta's no hitter, but glad to join!
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
@thinkteach
Hello Mr. Hopper!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
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@LinesScience
they're struggling right now with this - just want me to give them the answer.
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM EDT
@DRich0696
that made me feel sheepish. Baaaaaad jokes.
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https://t.co/vVNp3IOHFf
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:24 PM EDT
@davenport78
Hi April - glad you found your way back to
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3: IMO its really hard to do SBL in parts - tenets are intertwined so all in is the best approach.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:24 PM EDT
@davenport78
We forgive you! Welcome!
#GoCards
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thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3: While "all in" would be phenomenal, change of this magnitude almost certainly needs to be incremental.
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3: it can be incremental or all at once. Key is support n communication. Some DMPS schools piloted w few Ts, some went all in
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3: began the journey 2.5 years ago. slowly changing things. behind the scenes 1st~adjusting PLC & bldg assessments & lessons
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:25 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
definitely trying to figure out how this works with math...
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amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3: It can be done--I had to find ways to do it on my own before my (old) school district came around. It's easier with support!
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:25 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
I'm fighting with Ss who just give an answer. Get angry when I ask so how did you get there?
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: Every increment brings the desire to have another...right away.
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: Need to jump in head first, and modify standards yearly as needed. Feedback gets confusing for Ss if you're incremental.
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: in my 3rd year and still learning every week. Takes time.
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Support is a key!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/HJbabsDfTC
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3: It can be done--I had to find ways to do it on my own before my (old) school district came around. It's easier with support!
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Truth!
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https://t.co/61RTzHDRqy
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: Need to jump in head first, and modify standards yearly as needed. Feedback gets confusing for Ss if you're incremental.
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davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3--I began the journey about 5 or 6 years ago, & it keeps getting better. It has to be incremental to make it successful.
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heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Focus on formative vs summative assessments. Growth can be seen in a 3min conversation with a student.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
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@LinesScience
justify why they got it wrong? what if they got it right without demonstrating how they got it?
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GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A2: Assessments must be focused entirely on analysis, application, and synthesis of skills rather than memorization of material.
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NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: Standards Based Approach needs to work for you. Communicate with students what you are doing, bring them on the journey.
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Yes!
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https://t.co/gQ3OGK0ZAU
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: Need to jump in head first, and modify standards yearly as needed. Feedback gets confusing for Ss if you're incremental.
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
because they have been taught and conditioned Ts will give them the solution if they ask, gotta change that!
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carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
This seemed to be the easiest part of implementing.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/Xxdm18mgGz
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: Standards Based Approach needs to work for you. Communicate with students what you are doing, bring them on the journey.
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GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A2: Assessments can't be questions/tasks that can be Googled!
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DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Preach that, Sister!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/KNPJLKgmEv
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A2: Assessments must be focused entirely on analysis, application, and synthesis of skills rather than memorization of material.
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kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A2: Do not grade classwork, homework, etc. You can still give feedback but the summative assessment is the only thing graded
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
@heather_edtech
sometimes it takes less than 3 min!
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Yes! It HAS to work for you! Then it will work for Ss & then it'll work for parents. Start slowly!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/sYbSbTGOdz
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3: Standards Based Approach needs to work for you. Communicate with students what you are doing, bring them on the journey.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
@amandabethallen
I LOVE THIS! That is brilliant - why did I not think of that??
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@LinesScience
The old adage: the sun shines on a dogs behind every once in a while. Need evidence of process.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
Sometimes have to honor the PLC and move more slowly than we might want.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
One minute to Q #4.
#ankedchat
thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I've never met you, Mrs. Grove, but I honor what you've been doing...and with this quote
#winning
#ankedchat
https://t.co/H4MbxjmQBA
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A2: Assessments can't be questions/tasks that can be Googled!
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Hey, Kirk!
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A3: I think every T has to find their own journey in SBG. If they don't, they'll never embody it enough to implement w/ fidelity
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A3: This year I stopped collecting or grading any homework, classwork, etc. It's the best thing I've ever done.
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A2: Our instruction changes because it becomes more about the Ss learning and less about what HAS to be taught.
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
ss need to explain WHY. Justify (a hot word in my classroom lately) every answer/solution
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
I stopped grading it and only giving narrative feedback.
#lifechanger
Seriously, my Ss revise more than ever!
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM EDT
@LinesScience
@PeaceLoveMHeine
huge frustration of mine is Ss who have to have hand held even when we both know they can do work
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Q4:
#ankedchat
https://t.co/gem60nimHZ
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM EDT
KaBoom #2 of the night
#ankedchat
https://t.co/0fkGRSSx6y
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A2: Our instruction changes because it becomes more about the Ss learning and less about what HAS to be taught.
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A3: Ts need concrete examples for what SBG looks like when implemented well. Videos, obs, step by step descriptors, etc.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A4: Best to have supportive Admin and peers - grace for times when risks don't end up as successful as we anticipate.
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
They may not need grades on class work but they need feedback
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A2: Reassessment is crucial. We need to stop the one and done testing approach. Testing should lead to improvement, not an end.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
I have not thought about that approach...
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@LinesScience
@PeaceLoveMHeine
Prove it is my hot word. Or i ask Ss 2 show me the $ & Ss know exactly what i'm asking
#ankedchat
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
#ankedchat
A3)
@DouglasReeves
’ “toxic grading practices” come to mind. When shifting one practice, it may lead to shifting another!
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
@carrieokieking
@LinesScience
I used to show the scene from Jerry Maguire - it's not quite as effective any more
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A4 ss and parents being explained why this shift is good!!! And what it means.
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A4: Your administration has to back you, then you MUST communicate! Once you show why SBL is better, people will understand.
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A4: PLC support & buy in Admin. Support
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A3: I'm an all in kinda gal, but I think that's a rarity in Ts. I'm comfortable w/ big philosophical risks & always reflect/tweak
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
#proveit
on my whiteboard today
#ankedchat
https://t.co/hNQmZM8UBq
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM EDT
@LinesScience
@PeaceLoveMHeine
Prove it is my hot word. Or i ask Ss 2 show me the $ & Ss know exactly what i'm asking
#ankedchat
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
#ankedchat
A4) supportive school leaders are a given. How about time to reflect and collaborate? Environment to make mistakes.
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A4: The support of admin., a grading system that allows sbg entry, student and parent buy-in.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
@mctownsley
Welcome, Matt - we're honored to have you
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Feedback, feedback, feedback. The only grade needed on formative assessments.
#ankedchat
heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Yes. We could all use a little more grace.
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4: After year 2, we had a student panel explain to parents why SBL makes a difference. So powerful!!
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4: Parent support. They need educated, too! None of us grew up w/ SBG (if you're as old as me)!
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
@mctownsley
@DouglasReeves
So excited to have you join us!!
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4: have to have valid PLCs, supportive admin, Ts willing to learn & change, communications w parents, willingness to fail/risk
#ankedchat
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
made it, Nathan!
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: Site visits to schools who have implemented SBL, PD on the transition, guides on how to write standards.
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: The biggest support you need is YOU. Believe in it because it's what is best for kids. At times you'll doubt yourself.
#ankedchat
thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: Seems obvious, but to do SBL well, you need clear, relatable standards explaining what s's must know and be able to do.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
As an admin - how do you provide that time for teachers to reflect and collaborate?
#ankedchat
#curiousincident
https://t.co/Y5kLSGrYaw
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:32 PM EDT
#ankedchat
A4) supportive school leaders are a given. How about time to reflect and collaborate? Environment to make mistakes.
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A3: We have to stop thinking that grades motivate. I collect A LOT that isn't and get equally if not more engagement!
#relevance
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Wait, willing to learn, change, risk - really, all of that?
#ankedchat
#sarcasmagain
https://t.co/7oBlKElL8I
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4: have to have valid PLCs, supportive admin, Ts willing to learn & change, communications w parents, willingness to fail/risk
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Me ...EVERY SINGLE DAY right now.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/hRfE8FpErg
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: The biggest support you need is YOU. Believe in it because it's what is best for kids. At times you'll doubt yourself.
#ankedchat
thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4: Too often I think some T's struggle with SBL because we don't fundamentally understand what the standard means or how it fits.
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4: Admin have to create and nurture a climate of relationships, risk taking, open door policies, and reflection.
#ankedchat
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:35 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
not easy to create this space overnight; you’re right.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:36 PM EDT
One minute to Q5
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: The other support you need is to fluently understand your own standards. Think you know your standards? Try SBG and see. 😃
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:36 PM EDT
Grades motivate if we give ss feedback, make/let them set goals, and give them time to reflect!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/D9g7741a9g
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A3: We have to stop thinking that grades motivate. I collect A LOT that isn't and get equally if not more engagement!
#relevance
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:36 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
every one of those is important. Relationships might trump the rest though.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:37 PM EDT
#ankedchat
https://t.co/1qtFgBJRpQ
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4: School leaders need to be on board. You also need support in numbers. Maybe not the same page, but the same chapter.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:37 PM EDT
This is what's ruining me - in a good way.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/AETAu3ZoA3
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: The other support you need is to fluently understand your own standards. Think you know your standards? Try SBG and see. 😃
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4: have to determine essential standards and set priorities. Not teaching voice/tone if kid can't write complete sentences.
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:37 PM EDT
Our ADMIN encourages lrng walks. Times set aside each wk 2 explore the awesome tching that takes place.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/VHGb2mXmAE
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4: Admin have to create and nurture a climate of relationships, risk taking, open door policies, and reflection.
#ankedchat
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:37 PM EDT
#ankedchat
A5) Reporting process separate from product in secondary setting, such that both are equally as meaningful for students.
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@LinesScience
I used it too! but then it made me feel old, ha.
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A5: The biggest challenge now is to get unmotivated kids to want to reach proficiency! Most Ss do, but those few who don't...
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@carrieokieking
Lucky you!
#ankedchat
mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
too cool!
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A5 Meaningful and related level 4 tasks!!!! Seriously! It's like level 4 teacher thinking.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Same!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/fd0O2xqy2b
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@LinesScience
I used it too! but then it made me feel old, ha.
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Thinking I need to join in on this
#ankedchat
tonight!
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A5: Trying to determine a level 3(meets) vs. a level 4(exceeds). Hardest thing for me right now.
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A5: The biggest challenge during years 1&2 were parents! But now they are on board and understand.
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
@DRich0696
It's great to receive kudos from fellow teachers after one of the walks.
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: PowerSchool 😜
#ankedchat
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: For me, its trying to give an accurate record of learning based on standards on an antiquated report card. Its a doubletalk.
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: Reassessment are time consuming. They Really necessary but making reassessment take more time than I expected.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
@mndgamble
Yes, you do Mande! Come on in, the water's fine.
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: Ss who think 1.5 or 2 is ok. An F says the work stinks. A 2 says it's ok, but not good enough. Some kids r ok w that. I'm not
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: Writing standards are truly reflective of meaningful knowledge. Not too challenging, but not too many DOK1 standards.
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5 our level 4 says "meets proficiency on standard and can apply knowledge further" that. Is. It. Seriously?!
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5: We still get hung up with assessment building. Sometimes it takes several days to build one! & creating reassessments
#ankedchat
thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5: Wrestling with what I know to be right now vs. what I needed to be successful then (and convincing parents).
#ankedchat
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Our 4 is mastery, 3 is proficient, 2 is emerging, and 1 is significant gaps. Giving scores is hard at first.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
What if they don't even take the assessment until they demonstrate mastery on a formative?
#ankedchat
https://t.co/Dqd6E790W4
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: Reassessment are time consuming. They Really necessary but making reassessment take more time than I expected.
#ankedchat
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5: Bigger picture, its the teachers who don't and the admin who allow them not to. An unsigned syllabus should not a Zero earn.
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A5: It's not about a grade. It's really about the learning. that's a hard conversation for people
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Sorry
@DRich0696
missed your last bit of sarcasm. Tweeting w the SRG guru himself
@rickwormeli2
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:41 PM EDT
@carrieokieking
ever tried oral reassessments? I love them - 5 -7 minutes tell me all I need to know.
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:41 PM EDT
@mrevansclass
Keeping your standards high and Ss will eventually rise to meet them.
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:42 PM EDT
I tell every student day 1, "there is no reason you should not get a 3 in this class."
#ankedchat
https://t.co/VlASOJEhaS
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A5: Ss who think 1.5 or 2 is ok. An F says the work stinks. A 2 says it's ok, but not good enough. Some kids r ok w that. I'm not
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
@kirk_humphreys
Your summarizes can become formatives and vise versa!
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Yes, I love them! I do them for some of my students and they perform much better that way!
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@LinesScience
Is there a reason why you specifically state the number vs using direct wording?
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
Load up for Q6 - coming to you in one minute.
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: When I model what 'secure' looks like, some kids want to do exactly that vs create their own creative process
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
@mndgamble
Yes! teaching does not equal learning.
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
@carrieokieking
oh we do. And some do rise. Some get furious that someone is raising the bar again for them
#ankedchat
bdsnakeIowa
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
#ankedchat
A5 1.5-2 I see this as DuFours work the variable is time the constant is that the learning will occur
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
@davenport78
@kirk_humphreys
that's what I'm doing right now. I really like it.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:43 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
"Just tell me what to do!"
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
Ooohh that's a tough one to push them out of a comfort or 'what is enough' to do.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Q6:
#ankedchat
https://t.co/DInK5cRpII
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Q6: Once again..it's not about the grade it should be about the learning.
#ankedchat
#Outwiththenumbers
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A6: It really shows me more of what the students know and allows me to know my students better.
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5. Tranacripts! Can't I just write an explanation for each S since I know them better than any gpa ever will??
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A6: The confidence my students gain when we analyze our growth data. It inspires future growth.
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Another mind shift is that direct instruction is old hat. To reach the standard kids need time in class to apply/work w guidance
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A6: Students focusing on their learning rather than the grade.
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
ss know that a 3=proficiency. We use 3 and proficient interchangeably.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/AfFDYVjYOz
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:42 PM EDT
@LinesScience
Is there a reason why you specifically state the number vs using direct wording?
#ankedchat
heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Agreed. High-quality, std-aligned & flexible modern digital curr & assessments can help.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A6: I am excited for a true culture of learning to be built around SBL -
#growthmindsets
will be the norm!
#ankedchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A6: No longer grading endless and pointless amounts of homework/classwork everyday.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
Everybody say it together now, Relationships!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/vDRij09NeP
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A6: It really shows me more of what the students know and allows me to know my students better.
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
@LinesScience
I gotcha..I just think we focus so much on a 'number' in education that I really think there is power in the words.
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Q6: The Ss being able to vocalize strengths and weaknesses in relation to each standard
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A6: My students start to talk like a teacher! They know the standards so well and they give e/o feedback based on skills!!!
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A6 p1: Better to gauge my teaching. Analyze data as PLC & have more in depth conv. w/ Ts about how they taught vs. how I taught
#ankedchat
LinesScience
Apr 21 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A6 it's more about what students know/learn than "what score did I get? How hard did I work?"
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:46 PM EDT
HUGE - the ultimate SBL goal!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/93XA5984uY
kirk_humphreys
Apr 21 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A6: Students focusing on their learning rather than the grade.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:46 PM EDT
.
@GroveEnglish
This is what cracks me up all the time! I love hearing little mini-Me's...
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A6.2: I can articulate at any moment where EVERY kid is in a skill area. Know them WAY better than before!
#ankedchat
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A6: Grading learning instead of behaviors. SBL reveals what's behind the smoke & mirrors and then asks us "Whats your next move?"
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A6 p2: Ss can see clearly what their glows are and where they need to grow.
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A6: SRG has allowed for more improvement for students. not showing proficiency isn't ok. It's even pushing upper Ss to reach high
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
I think presenting and facilitating content becomes completely different when you shift to
#SBgrading
and it's AWESOME
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
there's still a lot of formative data to collect/analyze though...just different work to do.
#ankedchat
thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A6: Better understanding of relative strengths and weaknesses. It's not just about "getting it done" to get a grade.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:48 PM EDT
.
@GroveEnglish
there are absolutely no surprises...
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:48 PM EDT
A6.2: Also, getting rid of the question, "Is this graded?"
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:48 PM EDT
A6: I don't have to argue w/ students or parents about points or "how to get an A"!
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:49 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
Think of how the Ss feel about the exact same thing,
#woah
#ThatsPowerful
#ankedchat
NKleinmeyer
Apr 21 @ 10:49 PM EDT
I've shared this before, but on its on my board all year and we talk about it often.
#ankedchat
https://t.co/KPnt4aRNYq
heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:49 PM EDT
#ankedchat
Q6: Not penaliz
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:50 PM EDT
@MrLisekRPSA
If I had a dollar for everytime a Ss asked me that.....
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Starting to really study effect size. Things we r doing in class making huge gains for many Ss. Nearly a 4 year jump for one. ;)
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Bonus Q - How would you defend this fundamental change to those who resist?
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Uhh I think
#stuvoice
would be monumental in that conversation for those that are hesitant to get on the boat with me
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:51 PM EDT
@mndgamble
My Ss have learned that I answer that question with "What is a grade, really?" followed by 3 minutes of explanation.
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:51 PM EDT
.
@mrevansclass
yeah - my 8th graders have gone from little kids to mature learners this year.
#soproud
#ankedchat
heather_edtech
Apr 21 @ 10:52 PM EDT
#ankedchat
A6: Not penalizing Ss who just haven't learned a concept YET. Acknowledging Ss pace of learning varies.
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:52 PM EDT
@amandabethallen
LOVE IT! Love that you said 'we' and that you push..it's something we don't always see
#ankedchat
#yourock
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:52 PM EDT
Bonus: ask if it's about them or the Ss? Are we doing what's best? Can you prove their learning without it as accurately?
#ankedchat
carrieokieking
Apr 21 @ 10:52 PM EDT
BQ: Allows for Growth Mindset Higher Quality Curriculum & Assessments Clear Communication w/ Ss and Ps about learning
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:53 PM EDT
#ankedchat
https://t.co/aqfn1WDhLH
thinkteach
Apr 21 @ 10:52 PM EDT
AQ: Getting authentic audiences (like businesses/community agencies) on board to say, "Yep, we don't do grades either."
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Bonus A: The penalty for not learning is actually learning, not going on to the next chapter visa vis
@rickwormeli2
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:53 PM EDT
@PeaceLoveMHeine
that's awesomeness right there. That's when we take a day and celebrate.
#ankedchat
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davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Bonus--With SBL & SBG, I know my Ss better than ever & can help them reach mastery. Does an A or a B really tell what Ss know?
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Truth!
#ankedchat
https://t.co/oe61w4Pn5g
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Bonus--With SBL & SBG, I know my Ss better than ever & can help them reach mastery. Does an A or a B really tell what Ss know?
#ankedchat
amandabethallen
Apr 21 @ 10:55 PM EDT
BA: How can you argue with making Ss in charge of their learning? Who argues about requiring demonstration of skill?
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:55 PM EDT
ABQ: Invite the doubters to come join our classroom experience. Have Ss discuss their growth with those Ts.
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mctownsley
Apr 21 @ 10:55 PM EDT
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Bonus answer: Yes! Hard to think about going back.
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:56 PM EDT
@MrLisekRPSA
#YAASS
put the power to the
#students
I can guarantee they will share this change and passion
#ankedchat
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:56 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
@PeaceLoveMHeine
not for their learning. Behaviors sometimes, but they leave us better than they started.
#ankedchat
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:56 PM EDT
I think if we created a SBL comparison w/ learning that we do at PD, Ts would want the same things. Parents, too.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:57 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
Agree - nobody wants sit N get
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mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 10:57 PM EDT
@GroveEnglish
@PeaceLoveMHeine
and I can only worry about the school year I have w them. I can't fix other Ts or go to HS w them
#ankedchat
MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:57 PM EDT
@mndgamble
Ss are the only ones who can truly defend their experience. I'm merely the facilitator. We have an open door anytime.
#ankedchat
DRich0696
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:58 PM EDT
#ankedchat
you've been inspiring tonight! Thanks for a wonderful (almost) hour. Come back next week and bring a friend.
davenport78
Apr 21 @ 10:58 PM EDT
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Thanks for a great discussion! Thanks
@DRich0696
for inviting me! :) Good night!
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Ts aren't graded. We are given feedback and that motivates us to grow and try new things. Same for Ss!!!
#ankedchat
mndgamble
Apr 21 @ 10:59 PM EDT
I definitely creeped in late but I am glad I did. Enjoyed it, you people are
#fabulous
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PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 10:59 PM EDT
No joke - I have to get back to setting up my next unit...Learn today, implement tomorrow!
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MrLisekRPSA
Apr 21 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Thanks, again,
@DRich0696
and
@PeaceLoveMHeine
for another inspiring
#ankedchat
! Until next time, America!
mrevansclass
Apr 21 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Between my meeting w Trailblazers
#innov8dmps
today and
#ankedchat
tonight, I feel like
https://t.co/Ann68rYT7e
GroveEnglish
Apr 21 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the learning, friends!!! We participated w/o earning a grade. WHAT?!! 😂
#ankedchat
PeaceLoveMHeine
- Moderator
Apr 21 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Have a GREAT Friday,
#ankedchat
tweep! See you next week! Follow all these peeps too! They're AWESOME!
bdsnakeIowa
Apr 21 @ 11:02 PM EDT
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A6 it is what gets measured that gets done we measure grades then... If we measure learning then...