#MASSPchat Archive
Chats will be moderated by MASSP staff, members of the MASSP Board of Directors and MASSP Members – we will also have special guest moderators on occasion.
Monday April 24, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
participatechat
Apr 24 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#MASSPchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/DYM2KgH6Mn
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Welcome to
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Let's start w/introductions. I'm Steve Seward, MASSP Associate Director; Topic of Hiring Educators!
phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hello! Paul Hungerford, MS/HS Principal at Fulton Schools.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Paul-- Thanks for joining this evening.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hello! Paul Hungerford, MS/HS Principal at Fulton Schools.
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Scott Pfeiffer, MS/HS Principal, Countryside Academy in Benton Harbor.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Welcome Scott and thanks for joining the conversation this evening!
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Scott Pfeiffer, MS/HS Principal, Countryside Academy in Benton Harbor.
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Ryan Cayce, Principal of Ubly Jr/Sr High....will contribute as much as my toddler will allow tonight!
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Here are the questions we will be exploring this evening.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Good Evening Ryan and welcome. Excited to hear your ideas.
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Ryan Cayce, Principal of Ubly Jr/Sr High....will contribute as much as my toddler will allow tonight!
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:08 PM EDT
As usual, we will be using the Q1: and then you respond with A1: format to keep the chat organized and don't forget to include
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Q1: When examining cover letters and resumes, what are some of the things you look for beyond credentials?
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Rick Frens from Hamilton MS joining
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AssignmentHelpN
Apr 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edtechchat
#flipclass
#HolocaustEdChat
#LEARNLap
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9 Points Professors Look for in a Term Paper
https://t.co/TIlvLrRta3
massignmenthelp
Apr 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edtechchat
#flipclass
#HolocaustEdChat
#LEARNLap
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Tips for Learning Mathematics to Students
https://t.co/4jSNAvgzTZ
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Thanks for join gin the chat Rick. We just started with question #1.
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Rick Frens from Hamilton MS joining
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Stephanie O'Dea Principal at New Lothrop Jr/Sr HS.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Welcome to the chat the Stephanie. We just started with question #1 so feel free to jump in with your thoughts.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Stephanie O'Dea Principal at New Lothrop Jr/Sr HS.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1:. First and foremost the desire/evidence of building positive relationships with S's. Notable & unique experience.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Welcome to the chat Stephanie. We just started with question #1 so feel free to jump in with your thoughts.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Stephanie O'Dea Principal at New Lothrop Jr/Sr HS.
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: For MS positions, I have to see something that conveys energy/desire to work with that age group. I know it when I see it
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Funny how this can be sensed in the cover letter. Personalities often shine through our words.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1:. First and foremost the desire/evidence of building positive relationships with S's. Notable & unique experience.
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: why are they applying at my school and related experience in a similar setting
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: Attn to detail in the cover, no typos. Engaging resume format, break from traditional
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:14 PM EDT
So true. Something about reading a cover letter that is energizing.
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: For MS positions, I have to see something that conveys energy/desire to work with that age group. I know it when I see it
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Experience (depending on position), length of service, activities, who is listed as reference; definite red flag if no supervisor
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Those that are applying need to know the district vision and why/how they fit.
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: why are they applying at my school and related experience in a similar setting
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EduGladiators
Apr 24 @ 8:16 PM EDT
⁉️Are you really building Ss ldrs? Join us SATURDAY w/
@mathieu_w
#flipclass
#edtechchat
#vachat
#cdnedchat
#MASSPchat
#musedchat
#wiartchat
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:16 PM EDT
YES! Attention to detail is huge!
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: Attn to detail in the cover, no typos. Engaging resume format, break from traditional
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 24 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1: passion and knowledge for company/district/school
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Commitment to service both inside and outside of the school day is always a benefit.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Experience (depending on position), length of service, activities, who is listed as reference; definite red flag if no supervisor
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q#2 is being typed
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. Feel free to jump in when ready.
Kidsmathtalk
Apr 24 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Side note: are prof orgs relevant "look for" anymore. Does it matter?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q2: How do you determine who is on the interview team and the decision making process for new hires?
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2: depends on position - possibly mentor teacher, counselor, Curr. Director. Use a rubric and bring back for round 2 if needed
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2:. Department leaders, guidance counselor, and a member of the union Exec. Council. Poss. add S's in 2nd Rd.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Always try to include Ts that will work closely with new hire. Must be open minded. S input is sometimes appropriate too
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: Decision is based on fit within our culture and knowledge of the content. Determine creativity in lesson w/ S's.
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: Same subject area teachers, teachers the new hire will work with, perhaps intervention staff.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Witnessed many interviews that had both parents and students in the second round. Often modeled teaching as well.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2:. Department leaders, guidance counselor, and a member of the union Exec. Council. Poss. add S's in 2nd Rd.
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Rich B. Wayne County science curriculum specialist. Interested to learn what principals might look for in science T hires.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Important to include central office on the process and the decisions. Systems approach.
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2: depends on position - possibly mentor teacher, counselor, Curr. Director. Use a rubric and bring back for round 2 if needed
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Discuss with team and rank candidates after interview pool
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Wonder how folks bring someone in that will fit the culture and at the same time positively disrupt the culture.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: Decision is based on fit within our culture and knowledge of the content. Determine creativity in lesson w/ S's.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Great initiative to join our chat. A key w/ the new standards is to demonstrate student engagement thru "hands on" activities.
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In reply to @richbacolor
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Do you have picture of what the ranking tool looks like?
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Discuss with team and rank candidates after interview pool
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:26 PM EDT
As a board member for
@MSTAMich
- I'm going to say it should. Mbrship denotes continuous growth mindset & advocacy for science ed
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 24 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Side note: are prof orgs relevant "look for" anymore. Does it matter?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Q3: When interviewing, what are the work or performance samples you require (or have considered requiring)?
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Great point! Disrupting the culture helps create diversity and new ideas towards continuous improvement.
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In reply to @sewardstephen
richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Alignment to core values may be more telling than "culture" fit. What is the belief system that guides your teaching practice?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Always appreciated hearing everyone's thinking about who they thought was most qualified.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Discuss with team and rank candidates after interview pool
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: I always love to see a unit plan. You can tell a lot by how someone plans their lessons!
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3:. Preparing a lesson for a group of our S's is the best example of their creativity and preparation. Ref. cks. also help.
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Also student centered "figure out" vs. "learn about" science.
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In reply to @phungerf
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:31 PM EDT
BAM! Planning & preparation are key. Allows one to adjust on the spot based on student noticings (formative assessments).
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: I always love to see a unit plan. You can tell a lot by how someone plans their lessons!
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:32 PM EDT
For sure!
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Also student centered "figure out" vs. "learn about" science.
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In reply to @phungerf
phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Exactly! The ability to engage S's in that very capacity is essential to maximized learning opportunities.
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In reply to @richbacolor
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Do you find that provided references are honest about performance?
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3:. Preparing a lesson for a group of our S's is the best example of their creativity and preparation. Ref. cks. also help.
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: want a visual of what a typical day in their classroom looks like...how do they start, end, check for understanding, etc
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:34 PM EDT
That's a great Q. Once got turned away because my "lesson plan" sample wasn't it Madeline Hunter format. Yep, I'm that old.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Q3: When interviewing, what are the work or performance samples you require (or have considered requiring)?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Q4: What are some of the questions you ask that allow you to predict performance?
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I've had to give a sample lesson before
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Luckily, in my experience, reference checks have been very beneficial for me. Not a guarantee, but helps to validate.
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In reply to @sewardstephen
Kidsmathtalk
Apr 24 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4: how do you intervene with a ss who is not meeting the benchmarks?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:36 PM EDT
VERY important question. If we are not doing this we are doomed (as are the learners).
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Kidsmathtalk
Apr 24 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4: how do you intervene with a ss who is not meeting the benchmarks?
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: Tell us about experiences you have had working with a team.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: Describe what I will see when I conduct a walkthrough in your classroom. What will Ss/T be doing?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Group interdependence is extremely important and necessary if we are going to engage in collaborative work.
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: Tell us about experiences you have had working with a team.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
The skill to formatively assess throughout the lesson and differentiate instruction is critical.
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In reply to @sewardstephen
pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: Tell me about a time when you faced a lack of resources. How did you get the job done? Shows creative thinking,
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Stealing that one! sets the tone of what will be happening if they are employed and is open-ended.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: Describe what I will see when I conduct a walkthrough in your classroom. What will Ss/T be doing?
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: how do you check for Ss understanding...What do you do when a S isn't meeting expectations?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:39 PM EDT
YES!
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: Tell me about a time when you faced a lack of resources. How did you get the job done? Shows creative thinking,
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rcayce
Apr 24 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Ditto
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: Describe what I will see when I conduct a walkthrough in your classroom. What will Ss/T be doing?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:40 PM EDT
This would be a great indicator of if a person understands formative assessment or simply a few strategies.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: how do you check for Ss understanding...What do you do when a S isn't meeting expectations?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q5: What is a interviewing process or practice you might recommend to others?
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: What role do student generated Qs or wonderings play in your classroom? How do you incorporate them into a lesson?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
This question is open-ended, assumes positive intentions, and gets them thinking. Love it!
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: What role do student generated Qs or wonderings play in your classroom? How do you incorporate them into a lesson?
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5: If you have a personal connection w/someone who can give insight into your candidate, use it! Better to know before you hire
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scottpanozzo
Apr 24 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5- 20 min screener interviews. Weeds out a lot of people that wouldn't fit your culture.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Definitely. Always a good idea to investigate and take the time to find out about the applicant.
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odeasteph
Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5: If you have a personal connection w/someone who can give insight into your candidate, use it! Better to know before you hire
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5: Utilize your professional network to find look into possible candidates. Create situations for cand. to meet core expect.
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:48 PM EDT
We used this process and often did multiple candidate meet and greets. It was always interesting.
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scottpanozzo
Apr 24 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5- 20 min screener interviews. Weeds out a lot of people that wouldn't fit your culture.
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RFrens
Apr 24 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: We are starting to use HumanEx to focus on talents and eliminate bias. We used to start w a Meet n Greet to narrow search
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
I was always calling the colleges to ask who their top students were (not necessary academically). They were always spot on.
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5: Utilize your professional network to find look into possible candidates. Create situations for cand. to meet core expect.
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Just curious. Anyone else seeing some worrying trends in teacher numbers or potential candidates?
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Absolutely!
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In reply to @sewardstephen
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Seems to be very different based on content, grade level, and location of district. Some getting 100's per job some only a few.
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Just curious. Anyone else seeing some worrying trends in teacher numbers or potential candidates?
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sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q6: What's on your mind? An open the forum for your questions and sharing of ideas surrounding the hiring of educators.
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Curious about how a candidate might know what your local culture expects?
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In reply to @scottpanozzo
phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6: What are principals and T's doing to encourage S's to enter our profession? We must increase interest!
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edcampDetroit
Apr 24 @ 8:55 PM EDT
#EdCampDetroit
is coming! Join us 5/6 at
@waynestatecoe
for a day of learning, sharing, and connecting!
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https://t.co/u80bFhmWBb
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A6:Always good to have teachers see the intensity of interviewing. I like to hear interviewers responses to the posed questions.
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Science
#s
up or down?
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In reply to @sewardstephen
pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Scary low turnout at WMU's teacher Fair this year!
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In reply to @richbacolor
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Great question. We need to celebrate our profession and build it up. If not us, then who!
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phungerf
Apr 24 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6: What are principals and T's doing to encourage S's to enter our profession? We must increase interest!
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stephensonmused
Apr 24 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Please RT & follow us! Mentors of student teachers & novice teachers: New chat coming next week!
#LearnLAP
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#flipclass
sewardstephen
Apr 24 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Sounds like that was a trend across the state. New teacher certification "bands" coming soon that might impact even more.
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pfeiffersc
Apr 24 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Scary low turnout at WMU's teacher Fair this year!
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In reply to @richbacolor
CivicsEngaged
Apr 24 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Been looking in tonight on this chat. Solid advice. Great stuff. TY
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richbacolor
Apr 24 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A6: New 3D science standards are a "seismic" shift even for vets. Wondering what support admins need to help all Ts implement.
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