#KatyISDchat Archive
Education-based chat over various topics.
Thursday February 9, 2017
9:00 PM EST
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to the
#KatyISDChat
about Grading & Reporting! Please introduce yourself and tell us what you’re currently reading.
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
I am so excited for
#KatyISDChat
tonight with one of my besties
@koliver555
- learning from her every day is a huge blessing in my life!
In reply to @koliver555
participatechat
Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#KatyISDchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/63fpX2zUIO
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
my favorite show ever!
@koliver555
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao, @koliver555
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
I was born ready!
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
I'm the one learning from you, my friend! Happy we are all chatting tonight!!
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In reply to @LnChase81
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:01 PM EST
I’m Kelly Oliver.I'm the ELA IC at Tays JH and I am currently reading Thanks for the Feedback by Sheila Heen.
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Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:01 PM EST
Good evening y'all! I'm Elyse and I teach Special Ed and work with PK-5 daily! Currently reading Hacking Homework.
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:01 PM EST
Brent Clarkson. Asst Principal in
#katyisd
. Excited to be here in double duty!
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:01 PM EST
Welcome Elyse! Glad you are here.
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In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:02 PM EST
Hello, Meg from MRHS here. Currently reading Ornamentalism by David Cannadine
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jensheffieldtx
Feb 9 @ 9:02 PM EST
Jen from Wolfe, currently rereading
#kidsdeserveit
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TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
I feel ridiculous being THIS excited for a twitter chat, but alas I am. Shanna Morgan 7th grade ELA at Tays JH
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
I'm Diana, curriculum coordinator in
#katyisd
. Currently listening to Springsteen's 'Born to Run', but may be giving it up.
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grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
Grant Smith, 7L JH Social Studies, currently reading "Above the Line"
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cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
Cody, high school math teacher in central Iowa. Currently reading Math Mindset and Complete Guide to Money by Dave Ramsey
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
Missed the "currently reading" memo. Double duty isn't for the faint of heart. 😂 Currently (slowly) reading The End of Average.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hi Meg! Glad you are here!
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In reply to @mgevans450
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hi
#KatyISDChat
! Excited to learn from
@koliver555
and everyone else!
In reply to @koliver555
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
Welcome, Jen!
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In reply to @jensheffieldtx
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
thanks so much! Excited for a chat!
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In reply to @koliver555
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
how is it? I read Hacking Leadership, but not Hacking Homework.
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In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
We will be referencing this article by
@wormeli
and
@o
’connor during our chat
https://t.co/gSGbYMmv9v
.
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In reply to @wormeli, @O
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
I am Nicole Benke and I am blessed to teach at Morton Ranch HS. I am currently reading 4 books and a lot of essays!
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MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
I'm Paula Kingsley. I teach 7th ELA at SLJH. My "Writing Strategies" book by Jen Serravallo shipped today!! diggin in soon
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LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hi, I'm Lindsey Chase, Math Instructional Coach
@TaysJrHigh
I'm currently reading Thanks for the Feedback by Sheila Heen
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In reply to @TaysJrHigh
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
Glad you're here!
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In reply to @TheMsMorgan
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
You are amazing, Ms. Morgan! Yay!
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In reply to @TheMsMorgan
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
Renee, 4th grade writing in
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@BlackshearEHISD
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In reply to @BlackshearEHISD
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
Glad to "see" you, Diana!
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
Welcome! Glad you're here!
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In reply to @cody_charles1
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
what's that about?
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In reply to @grantmsmith90
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
Welcome, Grant!
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In reply to @grantmsmith90
PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
Paige Nelson SLJH 8th ELA currently reading Solstice
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
NICE!
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In reply to @MrsKingsleySLJH
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
So glad you can join us, Cody!
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In reply to @cody_charles1
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
Oh, and I'm also currently reading all of the Harry Potter books! I'm on Book 4 and can't put them down!
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
RENEEEEEEE!!!!
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In reply to @MissG4thGrade, @BlackshearEHISD
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
it's actually Urban Meyer's autobiography. Lessons in leadership!
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
Ready for Question 1? Here we go!
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Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hello! I'm Wendell from MRHS. Currently reading Hacking Project Based Learning
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hi Amanda! Thanks for chatting tonight!
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In reply to @AmandaPalmer131
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
Ken O’Connor, author/consultant snowbird in The Villages, FL. “Fatal Connection” by Ruth Sutton, who used to write ass’t books.
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mdianereed
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
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Diane from MRJH, currently reading Crooked Kingdom (escaping from reality) and Hacking Assessment ;)
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
nice. I'm a BGSU alum, so we knew him way back when...
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In reply to @grantmsmith90
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
Top notch! Make sure you catch "The Cursed Child." So good.
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In reply to @LnChase81
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
So glad you are joining us!
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In reply to @kenoc7
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
That's a lot of reading! I know you do that regularly, too. Anything for kids...
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In reply to @NicoleBenke
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
A little late but excited to be here. Allison Matney from Research, Assessment & Accountability here in KISD.
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
Thx for joining! Excited to have your insight.
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In reply to @kenoc7
ColeenSBlack1
Feb 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
@koliver555
ready to chat
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In reply to @koliver555
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 Ideally, the purpose of grading would be to provide feedback to Ss on what they know, and what they are continuing to learn
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
oh we have all the smart people tonight!
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In reply to @aematney
MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 To see what skills students excel at and where we can help them improve
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1 - the purpose of grades is to communicate student achievement in summary format.
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MissHerreraMRHS
Feb 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
Hi all! I'm Aislinn Herrera, I teach Teen Leadership at Morton Ranch HS and I am currently reading The New Jim Crow
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TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: The grade tells me just how awesome I am at (insert skill here) so I'm able to improve where improvement is needed
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: In an ideal world, no grades. Just lots of feedback students, parents, and teachers can understand.
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NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: I believe grades should reflect skill achievement and give useful feedback to learners.
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LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
Glad you are here! I look forward to learning with you!
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In reply to @aematney
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
Sorry I'm late to the party.
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
hi Coleen!
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In reply to @ColeenSBlack1, @koliver555
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: ideally grades provide meaningful, timely feedback to Ss regarding their understanding of content. Doesn't happen often. 😫
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MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: Ideal world...communicate how close the student is to mastering a skill.
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Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1-Grading ideally is a reflection on progress in any curriculum. Grading should be used as a guidance tool for learning
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
So glad you are joining us !
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In reply to @kenoc7
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
I really like it! It gives good insight.
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
In a perfect world, grades should communicate feedback to students regarding their performance or acquisition of skills
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mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 to provide feedback in the learning process that is ON GOING
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
I define grades as summary symbols on report cards; numbers we put on student ass’t evidence are marks or scores.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
Thanks for chatting, Diane!
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In reply to @mdianereed
KristiKayS
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
Howdy! I'm ready to go!
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PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: lets lose the grades and focus on achievement and mastery!
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LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hence, ideal! And perfect world ... but it's a stretch for many - way we've always done it, you know ...
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In reply to @CoachLaFollett
MissHerreraMRHS
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: Purpose of grading is to provide feedback to Ss about work delivers and ways to improve
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
What an amazing "think tank". Such amazing colleagues.
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jensheffieldtx
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Grading would be reflective of the skills that the students were actually learning and consistent across the grade level.
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AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: I’m stuck on the term “grade” which literally means to sort by quality. Doesn’t feel like an appropriate task for teaching.
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aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
If we MUST have them- they should describe student achievement and measure learning of standards.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
So glad you are joining us, Allison!
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In reply to @aematney
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
woot woot it's my twitter best friend!!
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In reply to @MissHerreraMRHS
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1-The ideal use of grades would be to provide feedback on their level of mastery of material.
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
Gold!
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: In an ideal world, no grades. Just lots of feedback students, parents, and teachers can understand.
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mdianereed
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
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A1: Feedback - Ss understand where they are, where they need to go, and what is next to get there.
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
I love that! So positively framed, too!
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In reply to @TheMsMorgan
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
Yeah! Glad to see you Kristi!
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In reply to @KristiKayS
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
Hi Aislinn, glad you are here!
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In reply to @MissHerreraMRHS
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
Good point.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
I define grades as summary symbols on report cards; numbers we put on student ass’t evidence are marks or scores.
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NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
Yes! No grades... no grades... narratives, conferences and differentiation oh my!
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: In an ideal world, no grades. Just lots of feedback students, parents, and teachers can understand.
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MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
PREAAAAAACH!
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In reply to @AmandaPalmer131
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
Do numbers or symbols do this?
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mdianereed
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
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A1: Feedback - Ss understand where they are, where they need to go, and what is next to get there.
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
Glad you are here, Coach!
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In reply to @CoachLaFollett
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
Words matter. They communicate intent. We really need a change in terminology.
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In reply to @MissG4thGrade
cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: grades are ideally used to communicate and provide feedback of proficiency levels, and show consistency of said proficiency
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
Yes! Are we sorting or developing? I hope the latter.
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AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: I’m stuck on the term “grade” which literally means to sort by quality. Doesn’t feel like an appropriate task for teaching.
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KristiKayS
Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 Grades should be an indication of mastery of skills.
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
@rickwormeli2
If you've got time, we'd love your input/insight. So valuable!
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In reply to @rickwormeli2
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
Q2
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Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 in a perfect world, grades could show the process and mastery/developing growth for each Ss.
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
I appreciate your addition of 'learning standards.'
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In reply to @aematney
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
You always see it as positive - "how close to mastering". I agree.
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In reply to @MissG4thGrade
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
Yes we do! So many educators and parents are stuck in that old mindset. We can do better by our Ss!
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In reply to @AmandaPalmer131
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
There's got to be a stone tablet somewhere with an A etched into it!
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In reply to @CoachLaFollett
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1-I believe every student should continue to get a Kindergarten type report card until they graduate.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
I wish it happened more... or always.
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In reply to @BClarksonTX
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
That's powerful - a reflection on progress.
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In reply to @Ishee1644
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
I am merely an apprentice, learning from a master craftsman (aka you!)
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In reply to @koliver555
hmh08
Feb 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
Good evening! This is Heather Hogan - BDJH ELA DC. I'm reading Zero Day and The Fundamental 5.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2 Grade accuracy is important because critical decisions by and about students (esp. HS) are made on the basis of grades.
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MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
You were the one who taught me about "YET" 😀
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In reply to @koliver555
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
I think they can, if the numbers/symbols are attached to progress using a proficiency scale.
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In reply to @kenoc7
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
Important definitions. Clarification for stakeholders is important.
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In reply to @kenoc7
MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 When grades don't reflect the learning, students can't make progress or will feel discouraged.
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grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2: We determine so much based on grades (class rank). If it affects a child's future it needs to be accurate!
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
This is my dream.
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CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1-I believe every student should continue to get a Kindergarten type report card until they graduate.
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NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2: Because we harm children, commit educational malpractice, with meaningless feedback.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
I'm with you!
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In reply to @PaigeCNelson
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
Let's find a way to make that happen here in Katy ISD
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In reply to @CoachLaFollett
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
Absolutely not - conversations and proficiency scales do, but not an arbitrary number
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In reply to @kenoc7
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2:Grades/feedback MUST be an accurate reflection of mastery. I follow w/ can we accurately reflect mastery while giving zeros?
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CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2-We need to give Ss the best feedback we can of their learning. But that also requires Ss understand what a grade really is.
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PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: to monitor individual student progress and help guide future instruction
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KristiKayS
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: Accuracy is not only important for documentation but also for monitoring improvement.
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hmh08
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1: The purpose is to show growth.
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MissHerreraMRHS
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: Accuracy is important bc Ts need to be able to meet Ss where they are when it comes to learning. Gotta hit the sweet spot
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2: Grades must accurately reflect progress- otherwise, what is the point?
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AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: Assessment accuracy is critical in order to guide appropriate next steps in the student’s learning.
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MissHerreraMRHS
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: Ts can't be rigorous or relevant if they are giving meaningless feedback/grades.
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CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2-Grades can't be just for getting on the honor roll or about playing GPA games to get into college. That's not their fault.
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mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2- in a perfect world, an accurate grade should provide feedback to the learner so that they continue to grow
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grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
literally their future...conversations about accuracy are vitally important
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In reply to @kenoc7
TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 important so that Ss know what skill to work on vs the skill they know like the back of their hand. let's not waste time
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
I believe it is to summarize achievement. Growth and progress are different.
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In reply to @hmh08
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
oh, hello Barb!
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#gettingtale
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In reply to @BarbMiller12, @CoachLaFollett
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: So obvious to me-it's a MORAL thing. It's edu malpractice if
#s
are made up, fluffed, etc...Ss need to know where they are!
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aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
If grades r not accurate they lose meaning & actually do harm- we kid ourselves thinking Ss r mastering more or less content.
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Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 Grades must be accurate to show the successes, the difficulties, and the data to show room for improvement.
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Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: Accurate Grades shouldn't define the student but should be simply used to track learning
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
Progress or achievement - they aren’t the same.
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao
jensheffieldtx
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: Grades can vary drastically from one T to another without consistent standards.
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
achievement.
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In reply to @kenoc7
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
a zero is a behavior grade and in no way reflects what a S knows and continues to grow through
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In reply to @BClarksonTX
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
Hey, Heather! Welcome!
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In reply to @hmh08
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
I think it jacks with mindset. “Grade” denotes the individual is of certain value. We need to end that.
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In reply to @aematney, @Diana_Sarao
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
And until grades reflect only learning, not behaviors(late work, no name, etc) we are doing ss a disservice.
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MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
A2 When grades don't reflect the learning, students can't make progress or will feel discouraged.
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mdianereed
Feb 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
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A2: accuracy:degree to which the result of a measurement conforms to the correct standard - Reflects level of S understanding
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
Wow, this chat is on fire tonight!
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
Working together to make the change!
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In reply to @AmandaPalmer131, @aematney, @Diana_Sarao
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q3
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LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2 accuracy is critical - this means based on learning, not behavior, & reflects that knowledge isn't dependent on 1 pt in time
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
And then can mean a number of things to the learner. Yes.
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In reply to @jensheffieldtx
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
Hmm, I'll be looking for that person.
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In reply to @CoachLaFollett
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
THIS-Amongst a few other scores I'd like to get rid of. Like, you aren't a 2 or a 4.😒 That's what STAAR thinks of your writing
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AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
I think it jacks with mindset. “Grade” denotes the individual is of certain value. We need to end that.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @aematney, @Diana_Sarao
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
I'm with you
@LnChase81
. Zeros do nothing more steal any meaning that a grade might have had.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @LnChase81
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
a zero is a behavior grade and in no way reflects what a S knows and continues to grow through
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @BClarksonTX
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
Agreed! We must give specific feedback so learners know the difference. We must know when to give each.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @Diana_Sarao
cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
#katyisdchat
"grade" has become a convoluted term. Accurate demonstrations of mastery produce informed instruction/intervention/extension
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: Extra credit, use of zeros, averaging, including student behaviors...
#KatyISDChat
KristiKayS
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: The quality of the assignment can affect grades.
#KatyiSDChat
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2. Grades need to be meaningful so Ts can get an accurate gauge on who needs help based on learning not on laziness
#katyisdchat
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 Behaviors- bringing in homework, supplies, completing a reading log.
#KatyISDChat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
Agreed. Shouldn't define the student. Should give them the path to increase their learning.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @Ishee1644
mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3- grades that are not associated with the standards of the course i.e. behavior
#katyisdchat
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
Doing Ss a disservice AND it's flat out inaccurate feedback/data!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
Yes. Feedback for continued learning.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3: Extra credit! Dressing up as a historical figure or bringing Kleenex doesn't need to be a graded task!
#KatyISDchat
Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3: Collaborative Learning doesn't necessarily accurately measure what Ss take away from the lesson...I'm guilty
#KatyISDchat
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
CRINGGGGGED! Felt sick!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @jensheffieldtx
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
And how do we really grade that, right?
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @mgevans450
TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: Less accurate grading practices: no name -10; talking during an assignment -20; late three days -30
#katyisdchat
MissHerreraMRHS
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: grading based on behavior as well as poorly organized assignments really affect the meaning of a grade.
#katyisdchat
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3-Zeroes, organization checks, and completion grades and usually extra credit.
#KatyISDChat
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 Grading for organization, behavior, averaging, late work, and more! Grading without a guide (rubric or proficiency scale)
#KatyISDChat
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
Supplies is the worst. Complete equity issue.
#katyisdchat
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 Behaviors- bringing in homework, supplies, completing a reading log.
#KatyISDChat
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 Extra credit, group scores, penalties for behaviour, attendance/participation points, averaging, poor quality assessments.
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
@rickwormeli2
says we have a moral obligation to report grades accurately. Yes, we do!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MissG4thGrade, @BarbMiller12, @rickwormeli2
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 Homework, reading log completion, zeros for behavior
#KatyISDchat
sheilabmcaninch
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
I'm a fly on the wall of
#katyisdchat
! Great conversations!
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: In an ideal world, no grades. Just lots of feedback students, parents, and teachers can understand.
#katyisdchat
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
agreed! Collaborative projects are such a double-edged sword. Especially when it comes to grades
#katyisdchat
In reply to @Ishee1644
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: Zeros, pt. deductions for late work/no name, etc. Any punitive action against a grade destroys the value of the feedback.
#KatyISDchat
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: Innacurate, unethical: late penalties, the 100 pt scale, grades tied to behaviors not skills... like bringing materials😳
#katyisdchat
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
No need to be a fly! Come on in. We are really nice.
#katyisdchat
sheilabmcaninch
Feb 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
I'm a fly on the wall of
#katyisdchat
! Great conversations!
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: In an ideal world, no grades. Just lots of feedback students, parents, and teachers can understand.
#katyisdchat
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
Agreed.Fortunately, I think we have brilliant people in
#KatyISD
working to change this.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @CoachLaFollett, @aematney, @Diana_Sarao
MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3 Grading has become a "gotcha" which only breeds negativity. We need a more positive approach
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
No feedback, there. Not accurate. (sad face)
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MissG4thGrade, @jensheffieldtx
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
Amen! I have never understood the punitive response to forgetting to put your name at the top
#katyisdchat
In reply to @TheMsMorgan
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: The rigor of the graded assignment matching the specific skill or TEK!
#KatyISDchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
So glad you are here!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @sheilabmcaninch
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
#katyisdchat
A3 group projects, participation,completion,bonus points,late deductions,no name anything that doesn't't reflect skill level
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: zeros or point deductions for late work. Grades become less acurate & the S gets out of doing the task.
#katyisdchat
PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
Anything not connected to a TEK
#KatyISDChat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
Precisely true!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @PaigeCNelson
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
Yes!
#katyisdchat
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
Kleenex. Is it points off if it's a store brand?
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @grantmsmith90
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
I agree, my friend. So much here decreases the accuracy of grades.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
Can we just go ahead and change the world? Let's make a pact.
#katyisdchat
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
Hey,
#tcea17
peeps. Jump in to
#KatyISDchat
for the last 30 mins. Great convos happening in here!
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
Grade inflation is a disservice to Ss as well! Grades become a false sense of learning because of "gimme" grades
#katyisdchat
PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: anything not TEK based-zeros, late work, check list type work
#KatyISDChat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q4
#KatyISDChat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
Good point. S gets out of doing the task. We need them to participate to learn.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @TJones823
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
Zero-game killer
#katyisdchat
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: zeros or point deductions for late work. Grades become less acurate & the S gets out of doing the task.
#katyisdchat
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
@grantmsmith90
I can agree with some points, but there is such a value in student discussion and collaboration
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @Ishee1644, @grantmsmith90
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
I'm in!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @Diana_Sarao
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3:I think the stress of the grading timelines (progress reports and short 6 weeks) greatly effect accuracy of grades.
#KatyISDChat
EduGladiators
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
❤️SATURDAY
#EduGladiators
series continues w/
@PaulONeill1972
moderating - Discipline from the ❤️!
#ISEDchat
#KatyISDchat
#meded
#arkedxhat
cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: great answers. Let me add grade "incentives" for taking AP classes.
#katyisdchat
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4: Use proficiency scales. Don't average.
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
Well said...False sense of learning. We can't do that to kids. That is wrong for so many reasons.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @TJones823
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: offering a retest but for a max score of "xx". Are we grading learning or are we penalizing because Ss failed the 1st time?
#katyisdchat
hmh08
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
So true! Also, I think it is so important that before a major grade is given on a tek that Ss have an opportunity 4 feedback.
#KatyISDchat
PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4: proficient scales and consistent feedback
#KatyISDChat
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
SHE SAID IT!
#katyisdchat
In reply to @AmandaPalmer131
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
Value yes, points no.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @LnChase81, @Ishee1644, @grantmsmith90
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4-Great question that I'm not sure I can answer.
#KatyISDchat
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
Bold and true.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @cody_charles1
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
You know I agree with you!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @AmandaPalmer131
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
Whoa. true.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @cody_charles1
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4 We must report learning over time- not grades. Use rubrics, likert scales without numbers. Anything other than 0-100.
#KatyISDChat
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
6 weeks is much too short for standards-based G&R.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @AmandaPalmer131
TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
A4. I am now a believer in the yearly or never ending report card. The skill is not over and done with at the end of the unit.
#katyisdchat
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
I was thinking that too.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @CoachLaFollett
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
Wel, the first part is students have to have multiple opportunities, yes?
#katyisdchat
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
A4-Great question that I'm not sure I can answer.
#KatyISDchat
MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
A4 Prof scales that connect across grade levels &possibly contents. Plan vertically& make them student friendly and accessable
#katyisdchat
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
What do you mean by “proficiency scales?”
#katyisdchat
In reply to @Diana_Sarao
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
Our focus should not be on WHEN the learning occurs, just THAT it occurs
#KatyISDChat
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3:I think the stress of the grading timelines (progress reports and short 6 weeks) greatly effect accuracy of grades.
#KatyISDChat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
I like that - the skill is not over!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @TheMsMorgan
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4: We have to stop taking each year in isolation. We must learn to track performance over time and continue the learning!
#KatyISDchat
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 Grades based on standards not ass’t methods allow tracking ache’s over time.
#katyisdchat
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
A learning target written at different levels, such as novice, emerging, prof, exemplary. A learning progressing.
#katyisdchat
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
What do you mean by “proficiency scales?”
#katyisdchat
In reply to @Diana_Sarao
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
Wouldn't it be great to track S understanding of a year's worth of skills over a year instead of 3 weeks or 6 weeks
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q4
#KatyISDChat
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
We must grade 4 mastery. Gr should be fluid- able 2 b changed for better along the way. If S masters a TEKS then grade goes ⬆️
#KatyISDChat
jensheffieldtx
Feb 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4: Continums that are well defined and discussed. It is not enough just to have it developed and passed out as "the syandard."
#KatyISDchat
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4 Rubrics and on going Feedback can be helpful. It's a process.
#KatyISDchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
You are thinking big, big picture! Love it!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MrsKingsleySLJH
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
YES YES YES
#katyisdchat
TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
A4. I am now a believer in the yearly or never ending report card. The skill is not over and done with at the end of the unit.
#katyisdchat
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
Also scaffolds the learning!
#katyisdchat
PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
A4: proficient scales and consistent feedback
#KatyISDChat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
Not When,,, just that they learn. Agree!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MarkMccord10
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
Amen!
#KatyISDChat
We need a system that supports this! Can you make that happen for us? 😉
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
Our focus should not be on WHEN the learning occurs, just THAT it occurs
#KatyISDChat
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3:I think the stress of the grading timelines (progress reports and short 6 weeks) greatly effect accuracy of grades.
#KatyISDChat
Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: Since my subject is heavily based on mastery of rubrics I must remember that it will take time & practice to master it
#KatyISDchat
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
Wish more people thought like this.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MarkMccord10
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
(whisper) Not all TEKS are created equal.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @CoachLaFollett
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
or multiple years! Conference with next year's teacher and keep the process going
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
ColeenSBlack1
Feb 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
#katyisdchat
A2: Grades are only valuable when teachers use them to tailor instruction
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
Great point. Retention will likely remain a problem until we stop that.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @grantmsmith90
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
2. Kids know a lot more than we give them credit for.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @CoachLaFollett
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
Um... YES!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
Yes, yes, yes!
#katyisdchat
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
or multiple years! Conference with next year's teacher and keep the process going
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
Process! Yes. Focusing on student learning and giving feedback.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @Hahne_KingEle
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
YES!!
#KatyISDchat
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
We must grade 4 mastery. Gr should be fluid- able 2 b changed for better along the way. If S masters a TEKS then grade goes ⬆️
#KatyISDChat
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
I can't even begin! However, it's like going to a doctor and pretending you have no medical history.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @CoachLaFollett
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: Work to redefine the goal of assessment (level of learning vs getting a grade) and then make this the focus of PLCs.
#KatyISDChat
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
Thx for jumping in
@MarkMccord10
. Always great to have your insight!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MarkMccord10
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
There is much we can do within the current system
#BeBold
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @NicoleBenke
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
What if students could look at their learning over a year (or longer). What a difference!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
The language of love for students!
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @sheilabmcaninch
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
We spend a whole six weeks or two trying to "rediscover" where a child is on his/her learning journey
#katyisdchat
In reply to @CoachLaFollett
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
1. Time frames arbitrary & merely a communication & administrative convenience.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @sheilabmcaninch, @TCTELA
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
This truly focuses on lifelong learning and that we are always progressing further towards a goal
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @aematney
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
Yes! Standards not methods. Skills not assignments.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @kenoc7
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
It all starts with conversations just like this one!!
#KatyISDChat
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
Wish more people thought like this.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MarkMccord10
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
being in special ed, I see the process a lot more fluidly from the outside (of gen ed) in.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @koliver555
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
How meaningful!
#katyisdchat
In reply to @koliver555, @BarbMiller12
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
2. E.G., 9 week grades are momentary and disappear on day 1 week 10.
#katyisdchat
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 is there a place for students to reflect on and define what constitutes 'proficiency' in a skill?
#KatyISDChat
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
Working on that more and more every day!
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @MarkMccord10
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
Powerful thinking!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
That is a great comparison.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @grantmsmith90, @CoachLaFollett
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
Great point Grant! We miss so many opportunities when we pass this by.
#KatyISDChat
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
or multiple years! Conference with next year's teacher and keep the process going
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
Fluid grades, imagine that! We should all be doing this.MRJH LARTS teachers can't imagine any other way.
#katyisdchat
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
We must grade 4 mastery. Gr should be fluid- able 2 b changed for better along the way. If S masters a TEKS then grade goes ⬆️
#KatyISDChat
bethhill2829
Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
hate that I missed this!!!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @BClarksonTX
cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
A5: style and delivery can differ but PLC's/grade level teams need to identify and agree what proficiency or mastery looks like
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
Lost instructional time to be sure.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @grantmsmith90, @CoachLaFollett
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
Also the language of hope!
#KatyISDChat
NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
The language of love for students!
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @sheilabmcaninch
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
There's still time! 😉 It's on fire right now!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @bethhill2829
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
You've still got time! Dive in - water's cool!
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @bethhill2829, @BClarksonTX
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6
#KatyISDChat
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
THIS is our most needed conversation. Grades aren’t about teaching responsibility. They’re about content proficiency.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @aematney
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
...arbitrary, evenly divided and measurable.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @sheilabmcaninch, @TCTELA
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
I missed Q6!!! Lol
#katyisdchat
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
A6 I've done a lot of reading and been a witness to the work of
@koliver555
teams and
@BarbMiller12
teams! Lean, in, right?
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @koliver555, @BarbMiller12
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
A6: I have learned so much from the masterminds of
@BarbMiller12
@koliver555
. They are change-makers.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12, @koliver555
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
Amen!
#katyisdchat
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
THIS is our most needed conversation. Grades aren’t about teaching responsibility. They’re about content proficiency.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @aematney
ColeenSBlack1
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
#katyisdchat
A4: Providing feedback that helps Ss reflect on their learning, go deeper in their thinking, and empower them to take risks
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
We must rethink this.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @kenoc7
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
A6 can't wait to see. I had these - didn't know what they were called back then- for my Ss mostly so they knew expectations.
#KatyISDChat
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
A6: Novice! Currently working on a prof scale for providing students with feedback on their ability to analyze historical docs.
#KatyISDchat
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
A6: very little. Learning as I can.
@MarkMccord10
has been kind enough to share his wealth of knowledge. Want 2 learn more.
#KatyISDChat
In reply to @MarkMccord10
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
We've tested a couple out but our LARTS department ROCKS at PS! Wanting to get in on THAT action
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6
#KatyISDChat
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
#katyisdchat
A5 team agreement on exactly what the skills are needed to show understanding and calibrating S evidence
cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
Sports analogy: every athlete has their own flair, personality, or mechanics, but all share a common goal to achieve
#katyisdchat
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
Best
#KatyISDchat
convo to date and we've had some great ones!
In reply to @AmandaPalmer131, @aematney
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
A6-I'm convinced they work, I just want to see in practice. I'm thinking some time next week w/
@Diana_Sarao
@lindseymstevens
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @Diana_Sarao, @lindseymstevens
MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
As admin and Ts we are about to dive into T-TESS which are examples of P scales
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
A6 “Proficiency scales” problematic if they are too specific as they make learning into unconnected factoids & isolated skills.
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NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
A6: In the trenches. Constantly developing and tweaking. Continuously learning, but finding them so valuable.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
Q6
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
I know of classes where Ss take time to discuss and decide what the skill requires & the scale. Great discussions!
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In reply to @LnChase81
jennwhitmer
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
If you need other news to follow:
@kenoc7
#katyisdchat
is great tonight! Grades, scores, assessments...
In reply to @kenoc7
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
I define grades as summary symbols on report cards; numbers we put on student ass’t evidence are marks or scores.
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
A6: Lots of reading, too. Including this one.
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sheilabmcaninch
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
The stress of required grades has become "fake news"
@amands
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In reply to @amands
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3:I think the stress of the grading timelines (progress reports and short 6 weeks) greatly effect accuracy of grades.
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BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
Count me in.
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In reply to @CoachLaFollett, @Diana_Sarao, @lindseymstevens
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
@TJones823
I missed Q5!!!!
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In reply to @TJones823
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
provides voice and buy-in from students for sure!
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In reply to @koliver555
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q6: I'd be interested in collaborating with any Math Ts out there currently utilizing Proficiency Scales!
#katyisdchat
mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
A6 I learned from the best
@koliver555
now to get buy in with Social Studies team
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In reply to @koliver555
AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
Yes!Everything we do in this world is based on relationships not reward & punishment. Let’s teach that.
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In reply to @grantmsmith90, @aematney
TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
A6. Prof. Scales=a tempestuous labor of love, that I am so glad I've come to know, because they empower Ss learning
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jensheffieldtx
Feb 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
A6: Parent side, love that my daughter can continue to improve upon her progress instead of being locked into a grade.
#MRJH
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
Time consuming but crucial work to improve instruction
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In reply to @cody_charles1
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
Check out this brilliant
@MrsFaithMRJH
conferring with one:
https://t.co/KL0PdX3Nw1
#katyisdchat
In reply to @MrsFaithMRJH
CoachLaFollett
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
A6-I'm convinced they work, I just want to see in practice. I'm thinking some time next week w/
@Diana_Sarao
@lindseymstevens
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @Diana_Sarao, @lindseymstevens
MissG4thGrade
Feb 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
A6: All I know is what I've learned from what's been implemented at MRJH...wishing my current location was discussing this..
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
Q7
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MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
A6 Spent Sat w
@BarbMiller12
@koliver555
asking & learning. I've written them but def not using 2 full potential
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In reply to @BarbMiller12, @koliver555
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
Great perspective. We must include all stakeholders in this giant learning progression.
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In reply to @jensheffieldtx
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
#katyisdchat
We have been working w/ these 4 3 years & we r never finished revising. Our LARTS teachers can't imagine traditional grading.
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
Agree. They should give a bigger picture view of a unit of study.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
A6 “Proficiency scales” problematic if they are too specific as they make learning into unconnected factoids & isolated skills.
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Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
A6: Curriculum Frameworks in AP Social Studies Courses. Must be mastered by the Ts before we can expect Ss to master
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
We all learn together and more every day!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MrsKingsleySLJH, @BarbMiller12
Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
You know I'm in!!
@mgevans450
@koliver555
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In reply to @mgevans450, @koliver555
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
@AliciafBates
@MMStutts11
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In reply to @AliciafBates, @MMStutts11
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q6: I'd be interested in collaborating with any Math Ts out there currently utilizing Proficiency Scales!
#katyisdchat
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
And I want to keep working with you!
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MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
A6 Spent Sat w
@BarbMiller12
@koliver555
asking & learning. I've written them but def not using 2 full potential
#katyisdchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12, @koliver555
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
Your voice will continue to make a difference.
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @MissG4thGrade
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
Also, there's a
#sblchat
every Wednesday at 8 pm. Good to meet others.
#katyisdchat
TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q6: I'd be interested in collaborating with any Math Ts out there currently utilizing Proficiency Scales!
#katyisdchat
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
Empower Ss learning. You rock it!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @TheMsMorgan
LnChase81
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
A7 How else would we know if they already know, or how much progress they are making? This should then guide our instruction!
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
nicely put!
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In reply to @TheMsMorgan
BClarksonTX
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
A7: Formative/summarize assessments should happen frequently and be the roadmap for lesson adjustments.
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grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
A7: All assesments should drive future instruction and inform reflection. Continuous improvement!
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
A7 FA descriptive feedback only, no scores. SA - point in time check, reassessment available & no decision ever made on one SA.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
We learn together. Let's do it!
#KatyISDchat
In reply to @mgevans450
aematney
Feb 9 @ 9:51 PM EST
A7 both should b used 2 inform instruction STAAR should b used by Ts 2 reflect on own teaching. Summative should b fluid.
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:51 PM EST
A7: Formative assessment guides future instruction.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:51 PM EST
Also Standards-Based Learning and Grading Facebook group.
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:52 PM EST
Yeah, there's no way I can say it better than this.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
A7 FA descriptive feedback only, no scores. SA - point in time check, reassessment available & no decision ever made on one SA.
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Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:52 PM EST
A7 Formative and summative should be a growth tool to show what Ss know & where they are. Growth/struggles/needs improvement
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bethhill2829
Feb 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
Formative assessments are the drivers for individual support! They keep us in check, frame our instruction, force reflection.
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
Q7
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Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
A7 Both Formative and summative assessments should drive instruction and small groups based on needs.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
#katyisdchat
please join us for
#caflnchat
next Tues at 7 CST. Focus is collecting digital evidence of student learning led by
@cooperd1954
In reply to @cooperd1954
cody_charles1
Feb 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
everything is formative in nature. Only reason we can't "redo" a summative is a policy maker said so. Brain synapses still fire
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
Powerful observation!
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In reply to @Ishee1644
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q8
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TJones823
Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
A7: Ss should be able to have choice when demonstrating their learning as long as it meets the requirements (hello prof scale!)
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BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
#katyisdchat
#7 ALL assessment should be a road map 4 Ss 2 understand where they've been where they r&where they need 2 go. A GPS 4 success.
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
I love the focus on connection!
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In reply to @kenoc7
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
A8: We have got to have a plan to move towards SBG, especially report card. Need a pilot campus. Or two.
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kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5 Agreements, guidelines, shared procedures, clear learning goals and performance standards.
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In reply to @koliver555, @TJones823
grantmsmith90
Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
A8: Definitely more freedom from red tape and restrictive grading categories. Allow for more innovation.
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PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6: Still learning everyday but use them for all assessed skills. Love how Ss know the purpose, skills & progression
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bethhill2829
Feb 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
Taking emphasis off letter grades/ percentages would be a great start. We can't keep things the way they were out of comfort
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q8
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mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
I volunteer MRHS!
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In reply to @Diana_Sarao
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
$ isn’t exceeds but excels and should be somewhat open ended.
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
jensheffieldtx
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8: With our HAC system it would be configured to report on standards rather than subjects. It could progress all year.
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Ishee1644
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A7: Should accurately measure progress and guide future lessons and experiences.
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AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8: Set a district focus on assessing for learning and reporting growth. It’ll require district-wide professional learning.
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MrsKingsleySLJH
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8 less restrictive time limits on grading periods. T eval of S & other evidence of skills should determine plcmt eligibility
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mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8- Let's replace the current 100 point scale
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TheMsMorgan
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8: A gradebook that doesn't end after the unit, but allows Ss to show their skill progression throughout the year and beyond!
#katyisdchat
Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8: Smaller scale- let's keep having conversations about the purpose of grades. Keep maki g progress.
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MarkMccord10
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
Initiating convos around grades & grading. The Strategic Design process that is forthcoming has potential to broaden the convo
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q8
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PaigeCNelson
Feb 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
A8: continual steps towards SBG
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NicoleBenke
Feb 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
Can I volunteer now?
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Diana_Sarao
Feb 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
A8: We have got to have a plan to move towards SBG, especially report card. Need a pilot campus. Or two.
#katyisdchat
kenoc7
Feb 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
Again YES YES YES see
@tguskey
“The Case Against % Grades.”
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In reply to @tguskey
mgevans450
Feb 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
A8- Let's replace the current 100 point scale
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koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
Me, too!
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In reply to @BarbMiller12
BarbMiller12
Feb 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
#katyisdchat
report by skill, get rid of grading periods, behavior reported separately, feedback as opposed to a #
koliver555
Feb 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q8
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AmandaPalmer131
Feb 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
You’re absolutely right! We need to clearly explain why the way we did it in school is no longer the best way.
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In reply to @grantmsmith90
lindseymstevens
Feb 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
ye! Like giving kids a scale and having them decide how they show their learning.
#katyisdchat
In reply to @grantmsmith90
PegGrafwallner
Feb 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
And can we please replace language? Instead of 'grades,' can we do 'goals'? Maybe Ss would wrk toward goals?
#katyisdchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @tguskey
Hahne_KingEle
Feb 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
you speak my language.
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In reply to @BarbMiller12
participatechat
Feb 9 @ 10:00 PM EST
#KatyISDchat
just ended! Transcripts and curated resources are now available at
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